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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:32:57 AM EDT
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Link to article Today the Supreme Court did not take on the 4th Circuit semi auto ban. By letting this ban stay the supreme Court is telling us that semi autos are not constitutionally protected. So do you think they are traitors? |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:33:23 AM EDT
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As has already been stated in the other threads on the tupic, taking on this case without 5 guaranteed pro 2A votes would have been worse.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:34:29 AM EDT
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Link to article Today the Supreme Court did not take on the 4th Circuit semi auto ban. By letting this ban stay the supreme Court is telling us that semi autos are not constitutionally protected. So do you think they are traitors? 
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:37:27 AM EDT
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This has already been discussed in another thread before this one. And no, it's just as well that it didn't get to the Supreme Court at this time. There are only three conservative, constitutionalist judges on the Supreme Court right now. They're Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch. The others are either democrats or unreliable, faux conservatives like Kennedy and Roberts. It's bets that this case be reviewed once President Trump get's a couple of openings to nominate some true strict constitutionalist judges like the three we have now to give them a 5 judge majority. It if was to go now it would have meant a bad decision creating precedent law on the side of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:39:49 AM EDT
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Wait until Trump appoints another, then take it to SCOTUS.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:40:25 AM EDT
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They didn't hear the case because we don't really have a majority on the supreme Court. Roberts and Kennedy are so wishy washy that they can't be counted on to vote for the Constitution. If the Supreme Court voted to hear one or both of the cases and Kennedy or Roberts sided with the 4 solid progressives on the court the ruling would stand for at least a decade. The conservatives on the court believe recent rulings shouldn't be over turned just because the make up of the court changes. Because our side is hamstrung by this unwritten rule we can't be as reckless as the Democrats. The progressives on the court don't really believe in this rule. Previous progressive Supreme Courts have over turned rulings that were only months old.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:41:07 AM EDT
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Come on Ginsberg! You can do it!
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:43:11 AM EDT
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Just a quick fuck you to everyone who sat home and almost let Hillary Clinton put it Ginsburg and Scalia's seat, because Donald said the Pword.
And a quick thank you to all who didn't believe the polls, tge pundits, and the media - who helped preserve that Supreme Court seat. We have a fighting chance. Sure beats the gauranteed loss. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:45:05 AM EDT
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Link to article Today the Supreme Court did not take on the 4th Circuit semi auto ban. By letting this ban stay the supreme Court is telling us that semi autos are not constitutionally protected. So do you think they are traitors? Who voted and which way? |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:48:17 AM EDT
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There's that FP thing again.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:48:36 AM EDT
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Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms.
The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:53:22 AM EDT
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Tsetse, I'm actually shocked you're still here. I thought you were shitcanned long ago.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:54:07 AM EDT
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Ffs
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:54:39 AM EDT
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Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:57:44 AM EDT
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Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that. Care to explain the Gorsuch nomination? Because that flies directly in the face of your second paragraph. eta: nevermind, nevertrumper I see. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 1:58:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:01:34 AM EDT
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Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that. Give me a fuckin break, I know Gorsuch hasn’t had a ton of 2A cases that he’s ruled on but anyone calling him anything but a constitutionalist is disingenuous at best and full of shit at worst... |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:01:38 AM EDT
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Tsetse, I'm actually shocked you're still here. I thought you were shitcanned long ago. And to all who think that Gorsuch is pro 2A I think he's actually indifferent if not leaning against. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:21:12 AM EDT
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sigh.... so the nevertrumpers are not going to stop....
wspe1 Joined 2008 Posts 2600 EE Offline USA ID, USA Posted: 6/19/2016 8:36:41 PM EST Trump just cost us the 2ND Amendment. Worst candidate ever. wspe1 Joined 2008 Posts 2559 EE Offline USA ID, USA Posted: 4/22/2016 6:46:36 PM EST If Trump wins or loses he will be a big let down for Americans. I guarantee it. He has read the constitution about as many times as he has read the Bible. etc.. etc... comment - the quote and hotlink stuff is still screwed up! |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:24:53 AM EDT
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Come on Ginsberg! You can do it! |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:27:57 AM EDT
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Shareblue activity on the rise...
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:30:27 AM EDT
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We are just waiting for Gisberg to pass on to greener pastures.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:32:00 AM EDT
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Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 2:37:21 AM EDT
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By letting this ban stay the supreme Court is telling us that semi autos are not constitutionally protected. So do you think they are traitors? Same answer I gave in the other thread. Enough of them have enough intellectual honesty to know they can only rule to strike down the ban if they follow the constitution at all. Since they know that would unleash a tidal wave of gun control challenges and that much change to the status quo is too unsettling to consider they'd rather just let the status quo stay unchanged. Freedom is very messy and can scare even the most ardent constitutionalists when they are staring down its maw. Freedom for the commoner to do what they want with scary guns is different than sweeping disembodied concepts of "founder's intents" that are easy to regurgitate. |
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Posted: 11/28/2017 3:07:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok, if they didn't take the case they are simply not granting Writ of Certiorari, which means they won't hear it. Generally they try to hear cases that involve a significant constitutional question that would affect a very broooooaaaad section of society: campaign finance, civil rights or how to plead a case properly, but rarely something 2A related. This is because they are the government working to preserve what is ultimately a question of how much leverage an average citizen gets with their freedoms. The second point is trump is an anti gunner at heart and doesn't personally care what's left of our rights. He's sided with AWBs before and looks like a girlscout when he's holding a gun. He'd never care what any of his supreme court nominees think about wider 2A rights, hell most of us got into guns because we were in the military at some point but he doesn't even have any of that.
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