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Posted: 2/7/2018 4:32:25 PM EDT
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Oh, so it might help some people? Quick, regulate it! This is a loss for freedom. It will now proceed to be demonized like devil weed. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:24:05 PM EDT
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RIP @PeteCO |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:29:05 PM EDT
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I'm sure the government has killed more people. Can we ban them?
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:36:41 PM EDT
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If they are trying to ban it...it means it works and Big Pharma doesn't like competition.
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:40:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:41:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Do you really request all this stuff? That has no bearing on your everyday life? lol |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:41:52 PM EDT
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Had a guy a while back that hit several vehicles and kept on going. One followed him and got him stopped and called 911. When we began trying to talk to him, it was like his brain was on a loop. We'd ask him a question and he'd say" Good. Fine" to everything.
What's your name? I'm good, fine. Do you know what day it is? Yeah. Good. I'm fine. Do you know where you are? Yeah. I'm good. I'm fine. Found a few bags of that stuff in his pocket. He'd just laugh occasionally and had to lay on the ground as he had trouble sitting up. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:42:04 PM EDT
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A good friend of mine had his life ruined and is now basically crazy from using that stuff. I don't know what's in it but it fucked him up good.
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Posted: 2/7/2018 6:00:41 PM EDT
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A good friend of mine had his life ruined and is now basically crazy from using that stuff. I don't know what's in it but it fucked him up good. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 7:13:04 PM EDT
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Maybe he was crazy before seeking something to treat his mental illness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A good friend of mine had his life ruined and is now basically crazy from using that stuff. I don't know what's in it but it fucked him up good. And maybe he was self-medicating with other substances on top of the kratom. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 7:23:18 PM EDT
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Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has been a flaming pile of shit excuse for a human being.
Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has kratom in their possession when I search them or their car. At this point it's more than a coincidence that substance abusers always possess shit like this for "chronic pain". But Muh back aches! |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 8:20:36 PM EDT
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Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has been a flaming pile of shit excuse for a human being. Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has kratom in their possession when I search them or their car. At this point it's more than a coincidence that substance abusers always possess shit like this for "chronic pain". But Muh back aches! In other words, your perception is probably skewed by selection bias. Or do you consider the people in this very thread who say they use/have used kratom to be likely "flaming pile of shit excuses for human beings?" |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 9:25:40 PM EDT
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If you're a policeman, then it stands to reason that your sample of "substance abusers" is going to be mostly dominated by people who do shit to attract the attention of police. In other words, your perception is probably skewed by selection bias. Or do you consider the people in this very thread who say they use/have used kratom to be likely "flaming pile of shit excuses for human beings?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has been a flaming pile of shit excuse for a human being. Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has kratom in their possession when I search them or their car. At this point it's more than a coincidence that substance abusers always possess shit like this for "chronic pain". But Muh back aches! In other words, your perception is probably skewed by selection bias. Or do you consider the people in this very thread who say they use/have used kratom to be likely "flaming pile of shit excuses for human beings?" I don't drink. I don't do drugs - legal or illegal. I started taking kratom around two months ago. It works well to give some relief for chronic back pain and arthritis. It doesn't get me high, give me a buzz or provide any other effects. It just cuts down on the pain a bit. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 10:39:02 PM EDT
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Lol. Do you really request all this stuff? That has no bearing on your everyday life? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There were 650 murders in Chicago in 2017. I’m sure the smoking and alcohol related deaths are greater than 44 in the time period the fda reviewed for kratom. I would really like to find out more about the fda review process and where they get their data from and the push to regulate this. I suspect a well placed foia could find out some answers @rogueboss |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 10:40:34 PM EDT
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Fer da chillrens!!!1!1!
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Posted: 2/7/2018 10:45:32 PM EDT
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I was under the impression that opioids were opium derived drugs, like opium from the poppy plant. Kratom is not even remotely related to the poppy plant. But now it's "deemed" an opioid? How does that work? Guess I'll have to go do some google chemistry. So kratom is supposed to create an opioid-like reaction and break down into morphine ...hmmm. Suspicious chemistry is suspicious. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 10:46:08 PM EDT
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Had a guy a while back that hit several vehicles and kept on going. One followed him and got him stopped and called 911. When we began trying to talk to him, it was like his brain was on a loop. We'd ask him a question and he'd say" Good. Fine" to everything. What's your name? I'm good, fine. Do you know what day it is? Yeah. Good. I'm fine. Do you know where you are? Yeah. I'm good. I'm fine. Found a few bags of that stuff in his pocket. He'd just laugh occasionally and had to lay on the ground as he had trouble sitting up. Weird. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 10:52:03 PM EDT
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why cant people just stop taking mind altering substances? ... o wait, thats right, people are weak. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:22:52 PM EDT
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Why can't people mind their own business, and respect the decisions others make about their own lives? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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why cant people just stop taking mind altering substances? ... o wait, thats right, people are weak. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:26:47 PM EDT
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Let'em do it. Let'em do it all. Only thing we have to do is bury them. Sounds like a win to me.
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:45:56 PM EDT
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Oddly, after taking some of it earlier, I'm good. Fine. Weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a guy a while back that hit several vehicles and kept on going. One followed him and got him stopped and called 911. When we began trying to talk to him, it was like his brain was on a loop. We'd ask him a question and he'd say" Good. Fine" to everything. What's your name? I'm good, fine. Do you know what day it is? Yeah. Good. I'm fine. Do you know where you are? Yeah. I'm good. I'm fine. Found a few bags of that stuff in his pocket. He'd just laugh occasionally and had to lay on the ground as he had trouble sitting up. Weird. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:51:56 PM EDT
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You've got opiates and opioids confused. It's a square vs rectangle type thing. All opiates are opioids, but not all opioids are opiates. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was under the impression that opioids were opium derived drugs, like opium from the poppy plant. Kratom is not even remotely related to the poppy plant. But now it's "deemed" an opioid? How does that work? Guess I'll have to go do some google chemistry. So kratom is supposed to create an opioid-like reaction and break down into morphine ...hmmm. Suspicious chemistry is suspicious. The k-opioid receptor responds to kratom and happens to be a receptor that plays a role in addiction/reward behavior. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4258993/ |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:55:43 PM EDT
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Cocaine and Heroin come from plants in the same way that Everclear comes from plants. After a bunch of processing, extraction, distillation, isolating, and chemical reactions in a lab. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before OP learns that cocaine & heroin come from plants. |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:57:47 PM EDT
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Oh FFS. Save us from ourselves dear government! |
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Posted: 2/7/2018 11:58:35 PM EDT
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Big Pharma was losing money, can’t have that
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Posted: 2/8/2018 12:00:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sounds similar to the way sugar is refined from cane or beets. I just made a cup of decaf with 2 drops of vanilla extract teaspoon of brown sugar couple of tablespoons of everclear Hell yes. Drugs are awesome. 
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Posted: 2/8/2018 12:04:08 AM EDT
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Well, alcohol is actually covered in the constitution. Once banned, then ban reversed (18th amendment, then the 21st amendment), so it is actually covered constitutionally. Now, what is funny about that is that the states have some crazy ass laws on it, when if it is actually mentioned in the constitution, then it should be regulated by federal law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They better ban alcohol again then, by that logic. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 12:04:09 AM EDT
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How many people die every month in relation to alcohol?
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Posted: 2/8/2018 1:44:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I said the same shit about narcan. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 1:57:34 AM EDT
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Big pharma wants it banned. Can't have people going off their opioid pills.
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Posted: 2/8/2018 1:59:10 AM EDT
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How many people die every month in relation to alcohol? I've read Kratom helped a lot of addicts get off opiates by helping with withdrawal symptoms. Can't have that anymore. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 2:01:12 AM EDT
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In before the Kratom neckbeards |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 2:20:16 AM EDT
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Am I wrong to say Narcan should be outlawed and nature take its course? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I said the same shit about narcan. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 2:31:51 AM EDT
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Heard the name a few times here and there over the past few years. Didn't realize it had such a robust following. I assume people are cleaning out local stores before they pull it from the shelves?
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Posted: 2/8/2018 3:53:32 AM EDT
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Good. Drug abusers can get bent.
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Posted: 2/8/2018 3:56:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thousands. But funny how that goes totally ignored. Oh wait, it doesn't threaten Big Pharma! This country is so corrupt it is disgusting. I've read Kratom helped a lot of addicts get off opiates by helping with withdrawal symptoms. Can't have that anymore. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking 
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:03:36 AM EDT
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Sure, if you substitute one opioid for another, of course there isn't going to be withdrawal symptoms. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Thousands. But funny how that goes totally ignored. Oh wait, it doesn't threaten Big Pharma! This country is so corrupt it is disgusting. I've read Kratom helped a lot of addicts get off opiates by helping with withdrawal symptoms. Can't have that anymore. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:09:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, if you substitute one opioid for another, of course there isn't going to be withdrawal symptoms. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking Remember the Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:12:09 AM EDT
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Are you stating that "Big Pharma" companies don't invest a Loooooot of money buying politicians so they can have the laws stacked in their favor? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Thousands. But funny how that goes totally ignored. Oh wait, it doesn't threaten Big Pharma! This country is so corrupt it is disgusting. I've read Kratom helped a lot of addicts get off opiates by helping with withdrawal symptoms. Can't have that anymore. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:16:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, if you substitute one opioid for another, of course there isn't going to be withdrawal symptoms. Love the conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma, I'm sure its not drugged out thinking Or, if you're not addicted to opiates, you can just take kratom to help relax, to relieve chronic pain, or for an energy boost if you need to get some motivation to get work done. Just like people who drink coffee, smoke, or have a beer. I know kratom. I've taken it quite a few times. It sometimes gives me a very light buzz but not every time, it helps me relax and calm down if I'm anxious, and makes it easier to feel motivated to work if I need to work, or relax if I need to relax. I once tried to take 2-3 times the normal dose just to see what happened, and it wasn't pleasant anymore - it was like I had had too much coffee. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:22:08 AM EDT
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Had a guy a while back that hit several vehicles and kept on going. One followed him and got him stopped and called 911. When we began trying to talk to him, it was like his brain was on a loop. We'd ask him a question and he'd say" Good. Fine" to everything. What's your name? I'm good, fine. Do you know what day it is? Yeah. Good. I'm fine. Do you know where you are? Yeah. I'm good. I'm fine. Found a few bags of that stuff in his pocket. He'd just laugh occasionally and had to lay on the ground as he had trouble sitting up. Freedom! |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:23:33 AM EDT
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Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has been a flaming pile of shit excuse for a human being. Nearly every single substance abuser I've caught has kratom in their possession when I search them or their car. At this point it's more than a coincidence that substance abusers always possess shit like this for "chronic pain". But Muh back aches! |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:24:34 AM EDT
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It acts as a stimulant but is an "opioid"!!??
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:50:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kratom is NOT an opiate, the effects of kratom are drastically different and less intense than opiates, and it's also not addictive, and there's no withdraw if you stop taking it. So it's great for getting OFF of opiates, and then once you're off, you can stop taking kratom. Or, if you're not addicted to opiates, you can just take kratom to help relax, to relieve chronic pain, or for an energy boost if you need to get some motivation to get work done. Just like people who drink coffee, smoke, or have a beer. I know kratom. I've taken it quite a few times. It sometimes gives me a very light buzz but not every time, it helps me relax and calm down if I'm anxious, and makes it easier to feel motivated to work if I need to work, or relax if I need to relax. I once tried to take 2-3 times the normal dose just to see what happened, and it wasn't pleasant anymore - it was like I had had too much coffee. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:51:28 AM EDT
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It acts as a stimulant but is an "opioid"!!?? |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:56:50 AM EDT
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Now we can finally win the war on drugs
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Posted: 2/8/2018 11:00:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bulk pre ban opioids! Buy cheap, stack deep. Amiright?! My fucking junkie cousin stole it. 
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Posted: 2/8/2018 11:13:59 AM EDT
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I was under the impression that opioids were opium derived drugs, like opium from the poppy plant. Kratom is not even remotely related to the poppy plant. But now it's "deemed" an opioid? How does that work? Guess I'll have to go do some google chemistry. So kratom is supposed to create an opioid-like reaction and break down into morphine ...hmmm. Suspicious chemistry is suspicious. Acts like an opiod.....LOL Notice he didn't say it was a opioid.
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Posted: 2/8/2018 11:46:12 AM EDT
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why cant people just stop taking mind altering substances? ... o wait, thats right, people are weak. |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 3:43:07 PM EDT
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It acts as a stimulant but is an "opioid"!!?? |
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