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Posted: 5/27/2018 8:20:56 AM EST
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I have a well-worn (exterior) 1961 Buenos Aires police contract pistol. Fun to shoot. Real FN production.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 8:27:09 AM EST
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It had a good run.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 8:56:37 AM EST
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I had the HiPower built up in my mind as being something mythical. I was disappointed with the actual gun, once I had it in my hands. I have said many times I'd probably send it off to C&S for a makeover, but she'll probably never leave the safe. If one doesn't mind buying shit from an arab country. Turkey is now making clones that retail for about 500 bucks. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 8:56:48 AM EST
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I have a nice BHP that I bought new in 91. Wore it out and had a local smith rebuild it. Carried it every day. I started to think that if I did have to use it I might lose it. So I bought a Glock 22 for my EDC. Figured I might as well get on the polymer striker fired band wagon. Took it out a few times and just didn't like it. So I traded it for a FEG clone and had a local smith customize it for carry. Best trade I ever did. It even had a pair of Spegals on it. Put those on my Browning.
I guess I am just too old fashioned to give up ony 1911's and BHP's. Steve |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 8:59:28 AM EST
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My Hi-Power is one of my favorite pistols to shoot. I'd carry it if it had a light rail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108486/IMG_2844-556554.JPGFN did an attempt to update it in the 80s for competition, the GP Better trigger that you can get a reliable 2.5lb pull, but the reset is still 'weak' the mag disconnect was still there but it was moved and it does not interfere with the trigger pull. Low profile adjustable sights, though a bit primitive by today's standards. 6" barrel with counterweight.
My Hi-Power is one of my favorite pistols to shoot. I'd carry it if it had a light rail. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 9:01:30 AM EST
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108486/IMG_2844-556554.JPGFN did an attempt to update it in the 80s for competition, the GP Better trigger that you can get a reliable 2.5lb pull, but the reset is still 'weak' the mag disconnect was still there but it was moved and it does not interfere with the trigger pull. Low profile adjustable sights, though a bit primitive by today's standards. 6" barrel with counterweight.
My Hi-Power is one of my favorite pistols to shoot. I'd carry it if it had a light rail. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 9:01:39 AM EST
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Love my BHP. Can't help but wonder how things would've evolved differently had FN/Browning been better at marketing the gun in the US. Popularity probably would've still been hampered by the fact that it's 9mm, since that wasn't a real mainstream caliber here for a long time. But you'd think that with proper marketing a well-made high capacity pistol could've had more of a following here. More sales, more innovation, who knows what they might look like today. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 9:06:56 AM EST
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If it's going to survive today's market it seems to be necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108486/IMG_2844-556554.JPGFN did an attempt to update it in the 80s for competition, the GP Better trigger that you can get a reliable 2.5lb pull, but the reset is still 'weak' the mag disconnect was still there but it was moved and it does not interfere with the trigger pull. Low profile adjustable sights, though a bit primitive by today's standards. 6" barrel with counterweight.
My Hi-Power is one of my favorite pistols to shoot. I'd carry it if it had a light rail. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 9:18:05 AM EST
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They did market it. But FN has always had problems in the US due to our culture and outlook in handguns. The Hi-Power was 9mm and that sucked for the majority of it's history. Single action was never a thing American Law Enforcement wanted. Both of those things spelled failure for the Hi-Power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Love my BHP. Can't help but wonder how things would've evolved differently had FN/Browning been better at marketing the gun in the US. Popularity probably would've still been hampered by the fact that it's 9mm, since that wasn't a real mainstream caliber here for a long time. But you'd think that with proper marketing a well-made high capacity pistol could've had more of a following here. More sales, more innovation, who knows what they might look like today. 
At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 10:29:01 AM EST
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They tried marketing the "Safe Fire System" on them in the 90's and like you said, no LEO's wanted them. I bought one from CDNN for $400 bucks in 2003ish new and it's my "house" gun and part time winter CCW piece http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/8284236/182580202.jpg At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Love my BHP. Can't help but wonder how things would've evolved differently had FN/Browning been better at marketing the gun in the US. Popularity probably would've still been hampered by the fact that it's 9mm, since that wasn't a real mainstream caliber here for a long time. But you'd think that with proper marketing a well-made high capacity pistol could've had more of a following here. More sales, more innovation, who knows what they might look like today. http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/8284236/182580202.jpg At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin 
For those that say FN didn't try to modernize the Hi-Power doesn't know much. They did and tried and went nowhere. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 12:35:31 PM EST
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FN also made the HP-DA (Marketed in the US as the Browning Hi-Power BDA) and even submitted it for the XM-9 Trials. It never went anywear and didn't use HI-Power magazines. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Bda9.JPG/1200px-Bda9.JPG https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/144214/998044096/wm_5442071.jpg For those that say FN didn't try to modernize the Hi-Power doesn't know much. They did and tried and went nowhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Love my BHP. Can't help but wonder how things would've evolved differently had FN/Browning been better at marketing the gun in the US. Popularity probably would've still been hampered by the fact that it's 9mm, since that wasn't a real mainstream caliber here for a long time. But you'd think that with proper marketing a well-made high capacity pistol could've had more of a following here. More sales, more innovation, who knows what they might look like today. http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/8284236/182580202.jpg At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Bda9.JPG/1200px-Bda9.JPG https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/144214/998044096/wm_5442071.jpg For those that say FN didn't try to modernize the Hi-Power doesn't know much. They did and tried and went nowhere. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 12:42:08 PM EST
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The real tragedy of the Hi Power is that it was never updated and modernized. Look at what happened with the CZ-75... You've got the SP-01's, Shadows, Shadow 2, Tac Sport, TSO, Czechmate and everything in between. There's no reason why FN couldn't have done the same thing with the HP. Instead, we got essentially the same model forever. I'd love to be running a Hi Power variation competitively or carrying a revamped version with a light rail. Instead, it's just not a viable modern platform. While a light rail might not be necessary for every gun, it is definitely possible to improve the ergonomics of the design, sights, grips, finishes, trigger, ditching the mag disconnect, etc. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 12:46:59 PM EST
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I had been wanting one for a while...when I heard they were discontinuing them I tracked one down for a good price. https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29683704_10213994434328157_8475353819715051312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=43f90c9e6d47e17e5d0a64d00e5adb23&oe=5B82A89E Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I feel like i need to buy one now. https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29683704_10213994434328157_8475353819715051312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=43f90c9e6d47e17e5d0a64d00e5adb23&oe=5B82A89E |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 1:13:50 PM EST
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FN also made the HP-DA (Marketed in the US as the Browning Hi-Power BDA) and even submitted it for the XM-9 Trials. It never went anywear and didn't use HI-Power magazines. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Bda9.JPG/1200px-Bda9.JPG https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/144214/998044096/wm_5442071.jpg For those that say FN didn't try to modernize the Hi-Power doesn't know much. They did and tried and went nowhere. I don't believe it has a mag safety, I'll have to check that out next time I take it to the range. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 1:16:46 PM EST
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I got a Browning Hi-Power BDA and it works fine,
I put light springs in the fire pin safety lock, that helped the trigger. The standard HP mags will work in it with a cut in them to match the factory mags thumb mag release notches. Cut down the thumb rest on the right side grip, it was on both sides and made the grip feel odd. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:12:55 PM EST
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Love my 1911's Hi-Powers equally.
Wish I had a Hi-Power in .45 ACP |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:16:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the only handgun you own is a Glock 19 you are both poor and boring. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:24:16 PM EST
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:29:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Turks are not Arabs! 
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:33:50 PM EST
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The Hi-Power is going away because it has been succeeded by far better designs. Nobody wants a steel framed, non-railed, single action pistol with a shitty factory trigger these days.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:43:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why ? they couldn't keep up making up the same old hi power. Why fuck with something that is selling? The reason for the discontinue is cost. machined steel parts> plastic melted and molded from a hundred that look the same as the rest, from other manufactures even, stamped metal innards, ugly as fuck. maybe the total cost of making one about 60-100 bucks. Compared to a Hi Power, why change? To a striker fired long trigger pull square box looking cereal box gun. Ya ok. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:48:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They tried marketing the "Safe Fire System" on them in the 90's and like you said, no LEO's wanted them. I bought one from CDNN for $400 bucks in 2003ish new and it's my "house" gun and part time winter CCW piece http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/8284236/182580202.jpg At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 2:52:32 PM EST
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If it's going to survive today's market it seems to be necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108486/IMG_2844-556554.JPGFN did an attempt to update it in the 80s for competition, the GP Better trigger that you can get a reliable 2.5lb pull, but the reset is still 'weak' the mag disconnect was still there but it was moved and it does not interfere with the trigger pull. Low profile adjustable sights, though a bit primitive by today's standards. 6" barrel with counterweight.
My Hi-Power is one of my favorite pistols to shoot. I'd carry it if it had a light rail. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:04:54 PM EST
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That they made the same old Hi Power is the problem. They could keep up fine, they just weren't selling. There was a big production run of FN marked Hi Powers in the 2000's that ended up as overstocks on CDNN for $399 with 2 mags. It took them awhile to sell those off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why ? they couldn't keep up making up the same old hi power. Why fuck with something that is selling? The reason for the discontinue is cost. machined steel parts> plastic melted and molded from a hundred that look the same as the rest, from other manufactures even, stamped metal innards, ugly as fuck. maybe the total cost of making one about 60-100 bucks. Compared to a Hi Power, why change? To a striker fired long trigger pull square box looking cereal box gun. Ya ok. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:11:38 PM EST
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I still wish somebody would make a HiPower clone with 1911 fire control guts. JMB had to design the Rube Goldberg FCG to get around patents (his own, ironically). Those patents are long expired. Somebody needs to make the gun JMB would have made if he could have. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:16:56 PM EST
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Obslete. No big deal. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:23:28 PM EST
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I need to buy another.
and a 40 version. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:33:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Know how many times i made use of the rail on my glocks, HKs, sigs, and walthers? Zero. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:51:26 PM EST
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Single action auto loader is a nich market. I hate to say it, but its dead. It been dead for like 40 -50 years.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 4:16:25 PM EST
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The Hi-Power’s biggest issue is its life-cycle. They just shoot out too fast compared to modern pistols. They are just too expensive to maintain as practical shooters on even a moderate non dirt-clod shooter firing schedule.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 4:27:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryTIA, Hermann |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 4:32:58 PM EST
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I need to buy another. and a 40 version. The sleek ergos of the 9mm guns are ruined in .40. Not to mention, .40 is gay. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 7:38:07 PM EST
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Keep your eye out for a Charles Daly HP. They were FEG parts assembled and fitted here by Magnum Research for Charles Daly and were well put together with dovetail sights. They were like $330 new and they have hovered around that price forever in resale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They tried marketing the "Safe Fire System" on them in the 90's and like you said, no LEO's wanted them. I bought one from CDNN for $400 bucks in 2003ish new and it's my "house" gun and part time winter CCW piece http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/8284236/182580202.jpg At the bottom with my 2 "normal" HP's, 1 shooter and 1 safe queen. I admit, I bought a S&W MP Compact 2.0 this month to replace the SFS HP as my winter carry piece, mainly because of FN stopping production and me wanting to keep the gun minty. I figure 3 is enough, if I see a FEG version someday decent price I'll get it as a 2nd shooter and keep the 2 low mileage ones minty for my kin Sad part is a local pawn shop had a FEG last week. Listed on Armslist on a Thursday. I couldn't get to the shop still Saturday (other side of town) so I show up Saturday morning 15 minutes after the shop opens and someone beat me by 5 minutes.......
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Posted: 5/27/2018 7:41:20 PM EST
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'The 40 is beefed up in every way to support the larger cartridge. The sleek ergos of the 9mm guns are ruined in .40. Not to mention, .40 is gay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to buy another. and a 40 version. The sleek ergos of the 9mm guns are ruined in .40. Not to mention, .40 is gay. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 7:53:36 PM EST
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Just like my clunky old 1960s Smiths & Walthers, 1935 Colt Woodsman & 1944 Remington Rand 1911, my Belgian 1970 HiPower is now obsolete.
How tragic. I’ve no doubt prices will reflect desirability of these antique POSs. I’m sure I’ll be heartbroken at some point. |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 8:40:24 AM EST
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Seems like this thread pops up every week since the news came out over a month ago. On each previous thread it is pointed out a $500 copy of the Hi Power from Turkey or India is available. https://www.lkcillc.com/products/9mm/regent-br9-black-ceracote/ https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/255759/477EBC48-DBCB-4E79-98F1-34EB32415F58-556413.JPG |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 5:57:52 PM EST
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Seems like this thread pops up every week since the news came out over a month ago. On each previous thread it is pointed out a $500 copy of the Hi Power from Turkey or India is available. https://www.lkcillc.com/products/9mm/regent-br9-black-ceracote/ https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/255759/477EBC48-DBCB-4E79-98F1-34EB32415F58-556413.JPG |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 9:54:19 AM EST
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If the only handgun you own is a Glock 19 you are both poor and boring. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've owned several, and they're fine guns, but lets face it. The answer to 99% of all handgun questions is Glock 19. Still sorry to see them go. |
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