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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:47:18 PM EDT
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I don't know why gun owners continue inviting the liberal press into their lives. They will NEVER treat us fairly. It does nothing to help our side but helps them learn more. We can never win because of this. They keep spouting bullshit, we correct them with facts, and they take those facts, twist them and we have to fight the next round of bullshit. WE NEED TO QUIT “TEACHING THEM” HOW TO FIGHT US. Rant over fuck them. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:51:42 PM EDT
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Read the article, actually not rabidly anti-gun 
It was however lacking in explaining this: But Mr. Crumling has also created something else in his garage that distinguishes him from his peers, a potential solution to a problem that has long vexed creators of 3-D printed guns: a bullet that wouldn’t ruin the plastic firearms. They don't explain that at all, only that DIY guns are becoming better and people are working on ammo for them that won't fuck up the gun |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:59:43 PM EDT
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I can reload and finish 80% lowers, I can make AK receivers as well.
I would make a reporter shit his pants if he came into my shop. 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:03:35 PM EDT
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GHOST BULLETS!!!!  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was only a matter of time. :/ The evils of reloding. WTF. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:03:56 PM EDT
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Read the article, actually not rabidly anti-gun First have some stories about how scary or dangerous something is (3D guns). Next educate folks on how easy it is to make scary bullets at home. Finally push for "something to be done". |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:08:36 PM EDT
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GHOST BULLETS!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was only a matter of time. :/ The evils of reloding. WTF. 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:10:48 PM EDT
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/05/us/3d-printed-guns-homemade-ammunition.html But Mr. Crumling has also created something else in his garage that distinguishes him from his peers, a potential solution to a problem that has long vexed creators of 3-D printed guns: a bullet that wouldn't ruin the plastic firearms. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/30639/686384CF-D960-44F1-8501-6EFB6F893EC3-697111.JPG |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:11:46 PM EDT
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Which Dillon is red? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:16:32 PM EDT
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They cater to people who want to be spoon fed an alternate reality. Coastal elites who literal have no idea about how things actually work. They can read some article and stand with their pinky out at a cocktail party and speak about some edgy topic coming off as morally superior. FTNYT.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:16:48 PM EDT
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Go be rich somewhere else.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:17:26 PM EDT
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Powder and primers. If they wanted to, they could shut us down just by restricting access to either of those. 99.999% of reloaders would not be able to make either powder or primers. At least, not safely. 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:19:32 PM EDT
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I can reload and finish 80% lowers, I can make AK receivers as well. I would make a reporter shit his pants if he came into my shop. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-0711-124403.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/4A9D2777-4135-41F1-A0EC-A3E777EEECF0-697798.jpg 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:19:59 PM EDT
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As far as NYT articles go it’s mostly accurate, and doesn’t try to smear gun owners too bad. But it’s still not great. Same thing. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:21:51 PM EDT
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Pretty fair article, any possible technical issues were very minor.
They will, however, eventually come for reloaders. The relative obscurity and a perceived high barrier to entry are the only things protecting it now, IMO. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:22:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s wrong with red?
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:33:32 PM EDT
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We help them by refuting their bullshit with actual knowledge. It does nothing to help our side but helps them learn more. We can never win because of this. They keep spouting bullshit, we correct them with facts, and they take those facts, twist them and we have to fight the next round of bullshit. WE NEED TO QUIT "TEACHING THEM" HOW TO FIGHT US. Rant over fuck them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know why gun owners continue inviting the liberal press into their lives. They will NEVER treat us fairly. It does nothing to help our side but helps them learn more. We can never win because of this. They keep spouting bullshit, we correct them with facts, and they take those facts, twist them and we have to fight the next round of bullshit. WE NEED TO QUIT "TEACHING THEM" HOW TO FIGHT US. Rant over fuck them. 
There's just too many in the gun community who think they'll be the savior that finally opens up these leftists eyes when in reality their being used for information warfare purposes. It's about as annoying as the idiots who keep writing the ATF about pistol braces and 7n6 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:42:36 PM EDT
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There's just too many in the gun community who think they'll be the savior that finally opens up these leftists eyes when in reality their being used for information warfare purposes. It's about as annoying as the idiots who keep writing the ATF about pistol braces and 7n6 The point is to inform fence-sitters that (1.) there is a compelling alternate viewpoint, and (2.) it's based on actual facts. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:54:59 PM EDT
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Being a "savior" to leftists isn't the point. The point is to inform fence-sitters that (1.) there is a compelling alternate viewpoint, and (2.) it's based on actual facts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's just too many in the gun community who think they'll be the savior that finally opens up these leftists eyes when in reality their being used for information warfare purposes. It's about as annoying as the idiots who keep writing the ATF about pistol braces and 7n6 The point is to inform fence-sitters that (1.) there is a compelling alternate viewpoint, and (2.) it's based on actual facts. Inform the fence-sitters directly or through social media. The news media will cherry pick your statements to make the story they want. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:57:15 PM EDT
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That was my first thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the special 3D gun ammo? A steel cartridge thick enough to not need chamber support? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:00:49 AM EDT
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Extend it a bit and rifle the free bore section and you would be completely GTG |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:03:17 AM EDT
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We help them by refuting their bullshit with actual knowledge. It does nothing to help our side but helps them learn more. We can never win because of this. They keep spouting bullshit, we correct them with facts, and they take those facts, twist them and we have to fight the next round of bullshit. WE NEED TO QUIT “TEACHING THEM” HOW TO FIGHT US. Rant over fuck them. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:29:05 AM EDT
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kinda what im thinking.. take what would be a bullet, extend the neck 2-3 inches rifle it. make the case out of stainless steel, with a nice beefy .100 thickenss. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Extend it a bit and rifle the free bore section and you would be completely GTG Just bevel the case mouth a bit to help with starting the bullet, then let the rifling hold the bullet in place, after it is pressed in to the proper depth. End result is a muzzle loading, primer fired, barrel that is quickly swapped for another barrel, instead of reloading the same barrel. ETA: Figuring out a way to feed those 'pre-loaded barrels' from a magazine, without the muzzles chewing on the internals of the plastic gun, would be a challenge. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:35:07 AM EDT
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Making your own ammo . . . horrifying.
If only the founders could have foreseen such a thing. 
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:41:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a case like that, you wouldn't have to worry about stuff like flaring the case mouth to get the bullet started, then crimping it to hold the bullet. Just bevel the case mouth a bit to help with starting the bullet, then let the rifling hold the bullet in place, after it is pressed in to the proper depth. End result is a muzzle loading, primer fired, barrel that is quickly swapped for another barrel, instead of reloading the same barrel. ETA: Figuring out a way to feed those 'pre-loaded barrels' from a magazine, without the muzzles chewing on the internals of the plastic gun, would be a challenge.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:53:16 AM EDT
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revolver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: With a case like that, you wouldn't have to worry about stuff like flaring the case mouth to get the bullet started, then crimping it to hold the bullet. Just bevel the case mouth a bit to help with starting the bullet, then let the rifling hold the bullet in place, after it is pressed in to the proper depth. End result is a muzzle loading, primer fired, barrel that is quickly swapped for another barrel, instead of reloading the same barrel. ETA: Figuring out a way to feed those 'pre-loaded barrels' from a magazine, without the muzzles chewing on the internals of the plastic gun, would be a challenge. Imagine the liberal hysteria over matching the recovered bullets to the barrel being made pointless, because the barrel is ejected from the gun after each shot. ETA: Maybe something like this  Attached FileSort of a 'bolt over barrel' type action, with the barrels being fed forward a short distance from the magazine, and the 'bolt' sliding over the barrel to chamber it. When the gun is fired, the 'bolt' recoils and ejects the spent barrel. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:17:36 AM EDT
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And that is a valid point. ...until the news media edits the message to fit their agenda. Inform the fence-sitters directly or through social media. The news media will cherry pick your statements to make the story they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's just too many in the gun community who think they'll be the savior that finally opens up these leftists eyes when in reality their being used for information warfare purposes. It's about as annoying as the idiots who keep writing the ATF about pistol braces and 7n6 The point is to inform fence-sitters that (1.) there is a compelling alternate viewpoint, and (2.) it's based on actual facts. Inform the fence-sitters directly or through social media. The news media will cherry pick your statements to make the story they want. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:27:24 AM EDT
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But this time it will be different... |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:34:27 AM EDT
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His casting needs some improvement too. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468179/8EBDD316-034A-429D-9ACB-622CBFC43BA6-697194.jpg 
 This will set the purists on fire... 
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:47:50 AM EDT
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After the massive setback with Hillary losing, the left is coming to understand that they're way, way too late with the disarmament nonsense.
Bill didn't have the political capital. Obama couldn't be bothered to get it done, despite letting a bunch of his underlings break the law left and right trying to set up the right conditions. They've flat out failed. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:49:05 AM EDT
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After the massive setback with Hillary losing, the left is coming to understand that they're way, way too late with the disarmament nonsense. Bill didn't have the political capital. Obama couldn't be bothered to get it done, despite letting a bunch of his underlings break the law left and right trying to set up the right conditions. They've flat out failed. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:58:12 AM EDT
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And now we have more guns than most countries in private hands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After the massive setback with Hillary losing, the left is coming to understand that they're way, way too late with the disarmament nonsense. Bill didn't have the political capital. Obama couldn't be bothered to get it done, despite letting a bunch of his underlings break the law left and right trying to set up the right conditions. They've flat out failed. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 5:03:53 AM EDT
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Me as I make my “DIY Ammo”
 Legend Devil Laugh Loop of Death |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 5:37:07 AM EDT
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My wife saw that article yesterday and came to me showed it to me and said "hey honey. Isnt this what you do with your reloading stuff in workshop" I looked at it and said, yep it sure is. She smiled, said "Very Cool" and walked back out.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:41:17 AM EDT
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You don't understand the liberal agenda machine. First have some stories about how scary or dangerous something is (3D guns). Next educate folks on how easy it is to make scary bullets at home. Finally push for "something to be done". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Read the article, actually not rabidly anti-gun First have some stories about how scary or dangerous something is (3D guns). Next educate folks on how easy it is to make scary bullets at home. Finally push for "something to be done". The liberals have realized that their rabid hate machine doesn’t work, and only makes them look stupid by hilighting how little they know about the topic. This is their new gentler approach where they “attempt to learn.” And by “learn” I mean “write an expose designed to introduce fear into peoples’ minds under the guise of understanding. They’ve started to adopt this tactic within the past month or two. It’s every bit as insidious as their past campaign, just in a less hysterical shell. Be on the lookout. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:41:28 AM EDT
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And that is a valid point. ...until the news media edits the message to fit their agenda. Inform the fence-sitters directly or through social media. The news media will cherry pick your statements to make the story they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's just too many in the gun community who think they'll be the savior that finally opens up these leftists eyes when in reality their being used for information warfare purposes. It's about as annoying as the idiots who keep writing the ATF about pistol braces and 7n6 The point is to inform fence-sitters that (1.) there is a compelling alternate viewpoint, and (2.) it's based on actual facts. Inform the fence-sitters directly or through social media. The news media will cherry pick your statements to make the story they want. Remember Katie Couric's story about gun control where they got caught fabricating the answer to a question? NOTHING you could have said (or avoided saying) would have prevented them from doing what they did. Liars gonna lie - with or without you. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:05:37 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure making the state unlivable so people move to red States is done intentionally. A lot of the people who move will never put two and two together and realize that the high taxes and shitty economy are the result of democrat policies that they will push for in their new state. Others will realize that the high taxes and democrat policies did ruin NY but will still vote and push for some of them thinking just this one little change can't hurt never realizing that NY became NY through just one change at a time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah NY is going to go nuts in 2019 with limits on how much ammo you can buy (anyway that's guess). I figured they never heard of reloading but here's the NYT Unless people like living there, which I can't imagine... 
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:25:26 AM EDT
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His casting needs some improvement too. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468179/8EBDD316-034A-429D-9ACB-622CBFC43BA6-697194.jpg |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:31:43 AM EDT
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It is called reloading. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:35:00 AM EDT
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don't be surprised if they come after relaoding by banning power and primers
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:35:57 AM EDT
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in before "This isn't the hill to die on"
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:40:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly shit, a portable bullet factory. Save the childrens.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:52:02 PM EDT
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Read the article, actually not rabidly anti-gun |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 5:01:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The news media doesn't need me to say anything in order to fit their agenda. When necessary, they will dream up statements and events out of thin air. Remember Katie Couric's story about gun control where they got caught fabricating the answer to a question? NOTHING you could have said (or avoided saying) would have prevented them from doing what they did. Liars gonna lie - with or without you. It was a regular Garand competition. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:14:31 PM EDT
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Piccolo has a funny story about some libidiot reporter, exposing the "Militia Training" going on in his state. It was a regular Garand competition. |
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Posted: 10/9/2018 6:31:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2018 9:07:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2018 9:10:20 PM EDT
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I wonder how they would feel to know that a hundred years ago reloading tools were ordered with the gun.
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Posted: 10/10/2018 9:53:08 PM EDT
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I wonder how they would feel to know that a hundred years ago reloading tools were ordered with the gun. |
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Posted: 10/10/2018 10:01:43 PM EDT
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Invisible guns! Untraceable ammo! Where will it all end?!? |
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