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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:12:07 AM EDT
Came across this today. Looks awesome. If it works..
Would really screw up the economy with all the out of work truck drivers. https://www.foxnews.com/auto/volvo-trucks-reveals-vera-self-driving-electric-semi-concept 
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:15:31 AM EDT
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I can see them on the highways driving to hubs just outside the cities where a human would take over final delivery. Makes me think of this scene though.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:19:52 AM EDT
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With all the good fortune autonomous driving has had, I can just imagine the lawsuit after that thing slams into the side of a bus load of orphans on a field trip. Doesn't matter whose fault it really is, it will be epic.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:22:39 AM EDT
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With all the good fortune autonomous driving has had, I can just imagine the lawsuit after that thing slams into the side of a bus load of orphans on a field trip. Doesn't matter whose fault it really is, it will be epic. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:22:55 AM EDT
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I would support banning self driving trucks if the ban contained a provision for summary execution of any semi driver using the passing lane on the interstate
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:23:13 AM EDT
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 Attached FileWhat I've never seen discussed in depth is what happens when an autonomous vehicle has to make a choice about who dies. Does the vehicle default to saving the driver? Kill a kid or hit a wall? Hit a dog or run off a cliff? Avoid an old lady and head-on a truck? Just wondering. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:25:38 AM EDT
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how will it do in a 60mph Wyoming wind in a blizzard
 when it can handel that better than a live driver then it is a go.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:26:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very true. I don't see it ever really happening until all passenger vehicles are automated. Once people have their own auto car in their own garage, they won't vote to ban the commercial versions of them on a kneejerk feels moment from a high profile accident. You are part of society that will gleefully give govt all control of movement because it’s cool and for convenience. In before the Luddite insults start... |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:26:49 AM EDT
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Needs the cylon sweeping red eye in the grill or front end.
I’d think they’d all need to be networked, sort of like airplanes with ADS-B are intended to be. Better than illegals from Central America and Russians. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:28:27 AM EDT
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I want to see the automated truck that can stuff a 48’ trailer into the loading dock of the Safeway at 17th and Corcoran St NW in Washington DC during morning rush hour without killing someone or tearing up a bunch of shit.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:30:55 AM EDT
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Figure a decade of absolutely pristine Level 4 automation (full automation with human on board) success before legislation would even think about allowing Level 5.
Call it 2020 as we sit with slightly sketchy Level 2 and 3. 2030 Level 4? 2040 Level 5? |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most people will not own any “auto car”, do some research. You are part of society that will gleefully give govt all control of movement because it’s cool and for convenience. In before the Luddite insults start... That being said, I would love to be able to go to bed in my car and wake up in Vegas. But not if I lose the ability to drive myself. And we all know that the end game of self driving ccars is getting rid of human drivers. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:33:37 AM EDT
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I want to see the automated truck that can stuff a 48' trailer into the loading dock of the Safeway at 17th and Corcoran St NW in Washington DC during morning rush hour without killing someone or tearing up a bunch of shit. Then there's the 1%:  Fedex truck amazing reverse parking |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:46:31 AM EDT
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Looks like Jacko’s from The Highwayman.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:48:26 AM EDT
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I don't see total autonomy, however I could go along with multi truck convoys with a single "operator" traveling long distances in dedicated truck lanes to and from terminals with direct ramp access to highways.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:51:12 AM EDT
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Arent they giving up the greatest advantage of observation by making the whole sensory package low to the ground like that? You got trailer-height to work with anyway, why not use it?
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:54:19 AM EDT
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You will never see vehicles without steering wheels, because of liability. If you crash your car, you are liable. If your car crashes itself, the manufacturer is liable. Ain't gonna happen. There will always be a steering wheel and a driver.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:54:48 AM EDT
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Actually I bet an autonomous truck could back up better than 99% of the fuckwits I see trying to back into a wide open spot at truckstops. Then there's the 1%:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhhqkHsGrsAI pride myself on my ability to put big trailers in tight places, but you’re correct. Plenty of these clowns struggle to back a straight line in a warehouse yard big enough to land a goddamn airplane. ETA, driver in the video has been there before. Like a boss. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:00:47 AM EDT
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Will this still change lanes in front of me going 20 mph slower than I am because it's going .5 mph faster than the vehicle in front of it? Because if so it's on par with the current crew of dumbass truck drivers.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:05:35 AM EDT
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I want to see the automated truck that can stuff a 48’ trailer into the loading dock of the Safeway at 17th and Corcoran St NW in Washington DC during morning rush hour without killing someone or tearing up a bunch of shit.  Attached FileI guess it's not bad if you do your deliveries in a sedan. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:20:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, you're probably right. I pride myself on my ability to put big trailers in tight places, but you're correct. Plenty of these clowns struggle to back a straight line in a warehouse yard big enough to land a goddamn airplane. ETA, driver in the video has been there before. Like a boss. Now I have to back in and out of tight-ass dealerships with expensive cars hanging off both ends of the truck with limited turning ability.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:22:54 AM EDT
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I would support banning self driving trucks if the ban contained a provision for summary execution of any semi driver using the passing lane on the interstate |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:29:45 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86631/Capture_JPG-926340.JPG I guess it's not bad if you do your deliveries in a sedan. Blind side 90 degree shot, two lane one way street with cars usually parked on both sides of the street. Also factor in the walkway ramp to the left of that car in the dock. It’s even worse than it looks. Here’s me there maybe 6 or 7 years ago. Better to get there early.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:31:51 PM EDT
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I learned reversing skills when I was doing the haz-mat thing backing trucks into places not designed for trucks surrounded by things you don't want to hit at places like chemical plants and refineries and industrial complexes. Now I have to back in and out of tight-ass dealerships with expensive cars hanging off both ends of the truck with limited turning ability. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20180620_185904_01_jpg-926357.JPG Nice rig. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:40:11 PM EDT
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I look forward to self driving truck races. The 69mph truck can race the 69.8 mph truck on the interstate for miles. In Atlanta they have truck lane restrictions. You don't know fun until you have 4 wide trucks at 67 mph
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:40:22 PM EDT
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We don't even have fully automated trains, I doubt we'll see automated semis for a long time.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:48:44 PM EDT
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Ha, yep, that’s it! Blind side 90 degree shot, two lane one way street with cars usually parked on both sides of the street. Also factor in the walkway ramp to the left of that car in the dock. It’s even worse than it looks. Here’s me there maybe 6 or 7 years ago. Better to get there early. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/C0906DDD-09BC-4EA0-83AB-66CCE1790DA6_jpeg-926417.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/D874CA52-BA7A-46BB-A855-F57350B67249_jpeg-926418.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86631/Capture_JPG-926340.JPG I guess it's not bad if you do your deliveries in a sedan. Blind side 90 degree shot, two lane one way street with cars usually parked on both sides of the street. Also factor in the walkway ramp to the left of that car in the dock. It’s even worse than it looks. Here’s me there maybe 6 or 7 years ago. Better to get there early. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/C0906DDD-09BC-4EA0-83AB-66CCE1790DA6_jpeg-926417.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/D874CA52-BA7A-46BB-A855-F57350B67249_jpeg-926418.JPG |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:50:34 PM EDT
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We don't even have fully automated trains, I doubt we'll see automated semis for a long time. Railroad is kind of a bad example - the whole system is obsolete. You might be right regardless. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:01:33 PM EDT
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The other day a semi hit a piece of steel that punctured the refrigerator tank and dribbled diesel for 10 miles before i/we able to flag it down in a POV. It lost the last gallon after it stopped. The cargo would have lost by the time they figured it out. A self driving truck is just a runway train when things aren’t normal.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:12:43 PM EDT
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Can you not pull through the alley (from the far side), straight out into the road, and straight back into the dock? |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:21:52 PM EDT
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The word Concept when it is used in relation to introducing a new product directly translates to "This will absolutely, positively never be built"
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:22:05 PM EDT
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Seems to me, IF, autonomous vehicles become a reality...
They would all need dedicated lanes between major cities & hubs. They'll never make it on some slumgullion ridge gravel road in BFE. That's a whole lot of highway infrastructure that doesn't exist.. They can't automate trains, subways etc. but this is gonna work out fine. Right!! I got a buck tree fiddy in my pocket to invest in this horseshit. Bottom Line: We're fucked spending big bux on something that ain't gonna work. Another hundred years of technological advances and taxing the shit out of all of us to force the issue. Well then....maybe... I'll be dead & gone by that time so NFG |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:24:43 PM EDT
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I learned reversing skills when I was doing the haz-mat thing backing trucks into places not designed for trucks surrounded by things you don't want to hit at places like chemical plants and refineries and industrial complexes. Now I have to back in and out of tight-ass dealerships with expensive cars hanging off both ends of the truck with limited turning ability. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20180620_185904_01_jpg-926357.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah, you're probably right. I pride myself on my ability to put big trailers in tight places, but you're correct. Plenty of these clowns struggle to back a straight line in a warehouse yard big enough to land a goddamn airplane. ETA, driver in the video has been there before. Like a boss. Now I have to back in and out of tight-ass dealerships with expensive cars hanging off both ends of the truck with limited turning ability. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20180620_185904_01_jpg-926357.JPG 
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:25:46 PM EDT
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Its perfect market timing. Freight has increase, driver cost has increased, and regulation has increased. Those autonomous pullers can run between hubs 24/7 and have drivers finish off the last few miles of delivery. Drivers worth a damn will still be pulling hazmat, tankers, end dumps, flatbeds, etc.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:30:50 PM EDT
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I want to see the automated truck that can stuff a 48’ trailer into the loading dock of the Safeway at 17th and Corcoran St NW in Washington DC during morning rush hour without killing someone or tearing up a bunch of shit. Autonomous trucks replace the lowest rungs of truck driver employment and human drivers do what they autonomous vehicles can't. Simple solution. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:50:39 PM EDT
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We don't even have fully automated trains, I doubt we'll see automated semis for a long time. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 1:53:04 PM EDT
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We don't even have fully automated trains, I doubt we'll see automated semis for a long time. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 4:26:23 PM EDT
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Nobody noticed that it was also electric? The crazy in that has the self driving part beat.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 4:37:39 PM EDT
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Figure a decade of absolutely pristine Level 4 automation (full automation with human on board) success before legislation would even think about allowing Level 5. Call it 2020 as we sit with slightly sketchy Level 2 and 3. 2030 Level 4? 2040 Level 5? |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 4:57:30 PM EDT
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I think that is more of a union thing . Trains are essentially auto pilot with a man monitoring the systems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We don't even have fully automated trains, I doubt we'll see automated semis for a long time. |
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