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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:31:45 PM EDT
In my experience some of the best run of the mill 7.62x39 FMJ ammo is Golden Tiger I get the best groupings out of these from three different Ak's.
 Followed by Wolf both of these below are equal in accuracy and reliability.   Tulammo also has been good and Red Army is also fine. Brown Bear and Silver Bear worked fine but did not group as well as the others. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:34:42 PM EDT
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I’ve also found Golden Tiger to shoot best of the cheap Russian stuff.
I typically use Wolf though, as that’s what I commonly find available at the best price. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:36:02 PM EDT
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Glad I stocked up on Golden Tiger a few years back.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:36:08 PM EDT
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Lapua.
None better |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:45:26 PM EDT
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I second Golden Tiger is the best
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:48:01 PM EDT
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Are these really non-corrosive?
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:49:24 PM EDT
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I agree. GT and WC for the win.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are these really non-corrosive? Yes, but cleaning it is still a good idea. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:50:36 PM EDT
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Golden Tiger makes really good 5.45, but its hell trying to find it.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:50:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lapua. None better This Lapua x39 is good juju . Although the Igman stuff from Yugoslavia was decent brass cased ammo . I still have several boxes of SIEC Igman 7.62x39 ammo and some East German stuff as well. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 10:54:24 PM EDT
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Golden Tiger is my #1 for 7.62 as well. Agreed!
I DID find some brass case 7.62 for a fair price about a month or two ago though - Geco ammo!! My range doesn't like the steel case stuff so I bought a hundred rounds to be able to sight in the rifles....that is nice stuff for the price, if you an now find it! |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:01:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lapua. None better Lapua is the only correct answer here unfortunately it is so rare and prohibitively expensive that most Kalashnikov owners have never had the pleasure of shooting it and discovering just how accurate their can be. I managed to put away 100+ boxes of Lapua 7.62x39 at $3.00 a box. Not my pic:  |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lapua is the only correct answer here unfortunately it is so rare and prohibitively expensive that most Kalashnikov owners have never had the pleasure of shooting it and discovering just how accurate their can be. I managed to put away 100+ boxes of Lapua 7.62x39 at $3.00 a box. Not my pic: https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/217590/940751347/wm_13561357.jpg Was that ammo around when the Valmet was first released in the US in the 1980's? I saw the cost it is as expensive as some big game hunting cartridges. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:07:07 PM EDT
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WPA is made by Tula, not Wolf, note the difference in bullet weight. Actually, the best is milspec Barnaul ammo out of all the Russian ammo.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:07:45 PM EDT
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OP said 'group' and 'AK' in the same sentence.
I'm confused. Why shoot groups with trash-can rifles? |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:09:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lapua is the only correct answer here unfortunately it is so rare and prohibitively expensive that most Kalashnikov owners have never had the pleasure of shooting it and discovering just how accurate their can be. I managed to put away 100+ boxes of Lapua 7.62x39 at $3.00 a box. Not my pic: https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/217590/940751347/wm_13561357.jpg I mean if you can find it and swing it but for that $$$ you might as well stock Hornady Brass V-Max which double as a suitable defense round on top of being MOA or better (at least in a bolt gun). |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP said 'group' and 'AK' in the same sentence. I'm confused. Why shoot groups with trash-can rifles? Contrary to what GD believes Ak's dont shoot like shotguns and are combat accurate with good ammo they are not designed to be target rifles. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:14:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP said 'group' and 'AK' in the same sentence. I'm confused. Why shoot groups with trash-can rifles? |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:15:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:16:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your only contribution to this thread is shitting on it stay out. That's an odd hill to die on. Sorry I insulted your trash-can gun. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:18:27 PM EDT
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Tula or Barnaul is the only real choice, though. I prefer Barnaul as I’ve seen flattened and backed out primers on Tula...
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:19:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:20:52 PM EDT
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I bought a bunch of Lapua from southern Ohio gun back around 15 years ago. It was good stuff.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that ammo around when the Valmet was first released in the US in the 1980's? I saw the cost it is as expensive as some big game hunting cartridges. It is the most accurate 7.62x39 that I have ever shot but you are correct, at the current price of around $65 for a 30 round box it is not even worth buying unless you are an ammo collector. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:23:12 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP said 'group' and 'AK' in the same sentence. I'm confused. Why shoot groups with trash-can rifles? Most idiots here can’t shoot as well as a decent AK anyway, so why venture into shit comments you likely can’t back up?  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:24:09 PM EDT
[#26]
GT is my favorite bulk buy followed by Wolf with the 8M3 hollow point.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:24:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's an odd hill to die on. Sorry I insulted your trash-can gun. They are mass produced rifles meant for under 300 yard engagements and they can put a man down without issue. I know some here hate them but they work reliably for the intended purpose and would serve well in conflict. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:24:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most idiots here can’t shoot as well as a decent AK anyway, so why venture into shit comments you likely can’t back up?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiTUvryG5USorry your girl lost. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are mass produced rifles meant for under 300 yard engagements and they can put a man down without issue. I know some here hate them but they work reliably for the intended purpose and would serve well in conflict. I will take one of my milled polytech AK's over any AR on the planet in a long term shtf end of the world event. A lot of AR guys hate to admit it, but they are just better from a reliability standpoint. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are mass produced rifles meant for under 300 yard engagements and they can put a man down without issue. I know some here hate them but they work reliably for the intended purpose and would serve well in conflict. I don't hate them. They're not my thing - never have been, never will be - but I think they make a lot of sense for goat herders who live in dirty environments and need something to pump out bullets at close range without worrying about cleaning or maintenance. I didn't realize AK people were so thin-skinned, though. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:29:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Golden Tiger never impressed, but it went bang and was less than minute of pizza pan.
Brown Bear has been the most consistent plinking ammo for my X39. Never tried any other Bears in X39, but Silver Bear was nominal in 223.Tula Range Safe ammo in 223 is legit 2-3 MOA ammo. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:29:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:29:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Golden Tiger makes really good 5.45, but its hell trying to find it. @Bthorn ........it might be hard to find it cheap, but I wouldn’t call it hard to find 
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:30:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Corrosive? Quote Historyyes. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:31:06 PM EDT
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The best is what I can get the cheapest shipped to my door.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:33:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't realize AK people were so thin-skinned, though. Oh, just hang around. Better yet, surf around. AR, FAL, and other fans are just about as bad in many cases. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:33:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's an odd hill to die on. Sorry I insulted your trash-can gun. Screen name checks |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:35:17 PM EDT
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I had a Romanian kit built by Arizona Response Systems. I put a rear aperture sight on it (doubled the sight radius) and replaced the slant brake with a muzzle device that didn’t rattle. Damn thing consistently shot 1.5-2MOA with Golden Tiger.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry your girl lost. Sorry you need more practice. And, get both. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a Romanian kit built by Arizona Response Systems. I put a rear aperture sight on it (doubled the sight radius) and replaced the slant brake with a muzzle device that didn’t rattle. Damn thing consistently shot 1.5-2MOA with Golden Tiger. I had a Ruger Mini-30 back in the day. It would do sub-2MOA with that russian white-box stuff imported in the early 90's that had a gaping hollow point. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:40:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yes. I see it up for sale a bit here, might have to give it a whirl. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:40:45 PM EDT
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I get what’s available. My SAM 7 doesn’t care.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:40:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Contrary to what GD believes Ak's dont shoot like shotguns and are combat accurate with good ammo they are not designed to be target rifles. Also see: mini 14. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:42:27 PM EDT
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Best stuff I ever saw was a brass-cased round with a two-digit year and orange sealant. No other markings, 15-round white unmarked box. Stuff was incredible. Saw it once twenty years ago, never saw it again. Actually really accurate.
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Posted: 8/9/2020 11:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, just hang around. Better yet, surf around. AR, FAL, and other fans are just about as bad in many cases. Some of us own and/or have owned all and aren’t handicapped by a singular platform. Ignorance and inflexibility kind of go hand in hand though. I got lucky, and had an instructor certified father who taught me that you learn the weapon, not the other way around. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 12:03:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that ammo around when the Valmet was first released in the US in the 1980's? I saw the cost it is as expensive as some big game hunting cartridges. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lapua is the only correct answer here unfortunately it is so rare and prohibitively expensive that most Kalashnikov owners have never had the pleasure of shooting it and discovering just how accurate their can be. I managed to put away 100+ boxes of Lapua 7.62x39 at $3.00 a box. Not my pic: https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/217590/940751347/wm_13561357.jpg Was that ammo around when the Valmet was first released in the US in the 1980's? I saw the cost it is as expensive as some big game hunting cartridges. When I was looking to buy a Valmet M-62 around 1981/1982, the only 7.62x39 available (that I knew of ) was Lapua and it was $1 per round back then. I think minimum wage was like $3.25/hour at the time. I passed on it just because of that (but I wish I would have bought it anyway). Also, the Valmet M-62 was first released for sale in the U.S. in the late 1960s not the 1980s. The M-71 and M-76 (.223) were also around in the 1970s. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 12:11:59 AM EDT
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I've had good luck with everything mentioned, but haven't had the pleasure of Lapua or the Golden Tiger. So, with my limited experinece, the best 7.62x39mm ammo is...
My handloads.  |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 12:16:37 AM EDT
[#49]
I didn't realize and AKM was accurate enough that ammo choice made a difference.
Seriously I had some Romanian stuff that was really bad. Other than that I never noticed a big difference. Except for that hornady Z-Max stuff, tit's great. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 12:20:08 AM EDT
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Got some of this lying around. No clue how it groups. Got it in trade years ago.
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