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RiverSwine45 Member Joined Nov 2008 Posts 3816 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 6:46:38 PM EDT [#1] Quote History Originally Posted By Cobalt135: Correct me if I am wrong, but the problematic OMAC thrusters will be used later to maneuver for de-orbit View Quote The OMACs work fine

Tweek =O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O= Joined Dec 2005 Posts 15080 EE 0% (0) MI, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 6:56:53 PM EDT [#2] Quote History Originally Posted By tgmr05: When do they close the hatch? View Quote OMG this!

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 8051 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 6:59:03 PM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: The OMACs work fine View Quote I was under the impression that the rear facing OMAC's were the ones that have issues.
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Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1939 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 6:59:19 PM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: The OMACs work fine View Quote OK, so which thrusters had issues?

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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:13:50 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Cobalt135:

OK, so which thrusters had issues?

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Originally Posted By Cobalt135:

OK, so which thrusters had issues?

Originally Posted By Sailboat:
I was under the impression that the rear facing OMAC's were the ones that have issues.

The OMACs are used for maneuvering. The RCS thrusters are used for minor maneuvering and attitude control.

There were 5 aft firing RCS thrusters that had an issue. 4 came back and 1 is shut down for the remainder of the flight.

Each dog house has 3 aft firing OMAC thrusters and 2 aft firing RCS thrusters. There are 4 dog houses. There are a total of 20 OMACs and 28 RCS thrusters.

Eta the OMACs and RCS are different in design size and thrust

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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:21:27 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:

The OMACs are used for maneuvering. The RCS thrusters are used for minor maneuvering and attitude control.

There were 5 aft firing RCS thrusters that had an issue. 4 came back and 1 is shut down for the remainder of the flight.

Each dog house has 3 aft firing OMAC thrusters and 2 aft firing RCS thrusters. There are 4 dog houses. There are a total of 20 OMACs and 28 RCS thrusters.

Eta the OMACs and RCS are different in design size and thrust

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You should change your misleading original statement from "The OMACs work fine" to "All but one of the OMACs work fine." :-P

EDIT: I got them reversed. I will leave my idiotic comment up. My above statement is false.

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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:25:03 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
You should change your misleading original statement from "The OMACs work fine" to "All but one of the OMACs work fine." :-P

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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:

The OMACs are used for maneuvering. The RCS thrusters are used for minor maneuvering and attitude control.

There were 5 aft firing RCS thrusters that had an issue. 4 came back and 1 is shut down for the remainder of the flight.

Each dog house has 3 aft firing OMAC thrusters and 2 aft firing RCS thrusters. There are 4 dog houses. There are a total of 20 OMACs and 28 RCS thrusters.

Eta the OMACs and RCS are different in design size and thrust

You should change your misleading original statement from "The OMACs work fine" to "All but one of the OMACs work fine." :-P

The RCS are different than the OMAC

Only one dog house pictured but the RCS are the 2 smaller thrusters.

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Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 8053 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 7:32:34 PM EDT [Last Edit: Sailboat] [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By Cobalt135: The RCS are different than the OMAC Only one dog house pictured but the RCS are the 2 smaller thrusters. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164047/boeing-cst-100-starliner-crewed-flight-t-3315125.JPG+- View Quote Never mind I got them reversed
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:41:03 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Cobalt135:

The RCS are different than the OMAC

Only one dog house pictured but the RCS are the 2 smaller thrusters.

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So this looks to be the Starboard dog house from what I've learned about this thing. In this picture you can see 2 aft firing RCS between the 3 aft firing OMACs at the bottom. Then above them pointing to the right is a down firing OMAC. Above that is 3 RCS thrusters so from left to right is one pointing left is Up firing, one pointing towards the camera is STBD firing and one pointing right is down firing. At the top there are 2 fwd firing OMACs and between them are 2 fwd firing RCS.

Dagger41 Member Joined Sep 2011 Posts 63480 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 8:14:33 PM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: There's some pretty cool thruster firing footage going on View Quote Yes.
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Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1942 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 9:05:30 PM EDT [#11] Live @ 10:50 EST NASA's Boeing Crew Flight Test Re-entry and Landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0T-cZWh78

California_Kid Something something of the something Joined Jan 2001 Posts 82807 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 9:57:13 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By Cobalt135: Live @ 10:50 EST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0T-cZWh78 View Quote I'll watch it if I am able. Butch and Suni are the first two humans in history to be stranded in space. This is an hysteric moment.
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Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15554 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 10:56:24 PM EDT [#13] Reentry stream is live NASA's Boeing Crew Flight Test Re-entry and Landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0T-cZWh78

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1952 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:00:43 PM EDT [Last Edit: Cobalt135] [#14] Noted 1 failure of a RCS thruster testing a few hours ago. And noted Redundancy built in

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1953 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:07:37 PM EDT [Last Edit: Cobalt135] [#15] Will be no Starliner on board video due to something such or other. NASA WB57 getting on station... https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=acd5a1 Attached File

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1954 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:10:44 PM EDT [Last Edit: Cobalt135] [#16] Guessing this is the Cessna they are talking about to capture some lower altitude video. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ada41a Attached File Attached File

Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15555 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:18:35 PM EDT [#17] De-orbit burn in progress. All nominal at the moment.

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61574 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:29:03 PM EDT [Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By Plumber576: De-orbit burn in progress. All nominal at the moment. View Quote Re-entry visible near White Sands, El Paso TX and Southeast AZ in less than 30 minutes.

CJ7365 Member Joined Sep 2009 Posts 10872 EE 0% (0) NM, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:30:50 PM EDT [#19] As I understand it, Starliner will be approaching from the west? I'm close to WSMR just need to see what direction to look in.
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AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61575 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:31:59 PM EDT [Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By CJ7365: As I understand it, Starliner will be approaching from the west? I'm close to WSMR just need to see what direction to look in. View Quote Look here Approaching from southwest

CJ7365 Member Joined Sep 2009 Posts 10873 EE 0% (0) NM, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:32:40 PM EDT [Last Edit: CJ7365] [#21] Thank you, Is this thing going to be gliding down on a parachute? Is there going to be a trail to see?
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Chokey Member Joined Oct 2001 Posts 97272 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:33:10 PM EDT [#22] And that's those pesky thrusters gone, no evidence of their failures will survive pic.twitter.com/l49EYPgOyr Scott Manley (@DJSnM) September 7, 2024

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61576 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:36:57 PM EDT [#23] Quote History Originally Posted By CJ7365: Thank you, Is this thing going to be gliding down on a parachute? Is there going to be a trail to see? View Quote Yes, read the first post in the link I provided.

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61577 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:37:13 PM EDT [Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#24] Dupe

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61578 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:41:26 PM EDT [#25] Entry interface in five minutes. Good attitude control

CJ7365 Member Joined Sep 2009 Posts 10874 EE 0% (0) NM, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:43:52 PM EDT [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Entry interface in five minutes. Good attitude control View Quote OK read it heading outside now.
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AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61579 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:43:54 PM EDT [#27] From the live stream landing may be at 10:00 PM MDT...not the previous 10:03 PM MDT.

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61580 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:46:26 PM EDT [#28] At entry interface. Heating becomes intense in about two minutes.

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61581 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:49:19 PM EDT [#29] Blackout period has begun. Lasts about 4.5 minutes.

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Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15557 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:51:51 PM EDT [#31] That's a cool view of Starliner reentry from the ISS.

Chokey Member Joined Oct 2001 Posts 97273 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:51:54 PM EDT [#32] cool video from the ISS

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61582 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:52:33 PM EDT [#33] RB57 has contact with Starliner.

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 8055 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:52:47 PM EDT [#34] Quote History Originally Posted By Cobalt135: Will be no Starliner on board video due to something such or other. NASA WB57 getting on station... https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=acd5a1 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164047/Screenshot_2024-09-06_230551_jpg-3315392.JPG View Quote they're showing the view from that plane now!
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Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15558 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:53:00 PM EDT [#35] Quote History Originally Posted By Chokey: cool video from the ISS View Quote 3 seconds

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61583 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:53:41 PM EDT [#36] Blackout period is over and things look good.

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61584 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:54:13 PM EDT [#37] Quote History Originally Posted By Chokey: cool video from the ISS View Quote I did not expect that.

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1964 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:54:29 PM EDT [#38] Landing site has a visual on the plasma trail

SoundStorm Member Joined Apr 2009 Posts 4867 EE 100% (41) OK, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:54:52 PM EDT [#39] Looks like it made it through reentry. Waiting on chutes

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1965 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:55:51 PM EDT [#40] NASA commentator keeps saying WB-57 @16000 feet and it is at 32,000 feet according to ADSB data

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1966 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:57:27 PM EDT [#41] drouges out on starliner

AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61585 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:57:32 PM EDT [Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#42] Upper Heat shield gone. Drogues out

Rose Joined Mar 2003 Posts 1842 EE 0% (0) AZ, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:57:44 PM EDT [Last Edit: Rose] [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By Cobalt135: NASA commentator keeps saying WB-57 @16000 feet and it is at 32,000 feet according to ADSB data View Quote I don't think a Caravan can go that high. edit: nvm, getting my aircraft confused

Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15559 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:58:29 PM EDT [#44] Mains inflating.

Cobalt135 Member Joined Jul 2008 Posts 1967 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/6/2024 11:58:44 PM EDT [#45] Quote History Originally Posted By Rose: I don't think a Caravan can go that high. View Quote Caravan is at 9,700 for low alt footage

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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:59:10 PM EDT

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I don't think a Caravan can go that high.

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Originally Posted By Cobalt135:
NASA commentator keeps saying WB-57 @16000 feet and it is at 32,000 feet according to ADSB data

I don't think a Caravan can go that high.

The pilot can but landing becomes an issue.

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AmericanPeople Member Joined Dec 2012 Posts 61586 EE 0% (0) CO, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 12:00:35 AM EDT [#48] Six good airbags.

Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 15560 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 12:02:34 AM EDT [#49] Glad that was uneventful.

Esterhase Member Joined Feb 2018 Posts 3221 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 12:02:50 AM EDT [#50] Looks like it all went well.
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