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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 8:33:15 PM EDT
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South Korea in talks to join 'Asian Nato' as threat of Cold War with China looms
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 8:40:26 PM EDT
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JDAM-ER Winged Bombs With Seekers That Home In On GPS Jammers Headed To Ukraine

Plans to give Ukraine JDAM-ERs with new seekers come as Western precision-guided munitions are reportedly suffering from Russian GPS jamming.

BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK

PUBLISHED MAY 3, 2024 8:02 PM EDT



The U.S. Air Force is buying add-on seekers designed to give Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range (JDAM-ER) precision-guided bombs supplied to Ukraine the ability to zero in on GPS jammers. In effect, this would turn one of the weapons most impacted by this countermeasure into one used to directly attack it. This follows growing reports that Russian jamming is severely degrading the effectiveness of Western-supplied GPS-guided munitions, including JDAM-ERs.

The Pentagon announced today that the U.S. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center (AFLCMC) had awarded Cypress, California-headquartered Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. a contract valued at $23,554,341 for "the acquisition of Home-on GPS Jam seekers" and the "integration of the extended range seekers into existing Joint Direct Attack Munition wing kits."

"This contract involves Foreign Military Sales to Ukraine," the Pentagon's announcement also noted.

JDAM-ERs have been in use in Ukraine since at least March 2023. The Ukrainian Air Force's Soviet-era MiG-29 Fulcrums and Su-27 Flankers are being used to employ these weapons with the help of specialized pylons and tablet-based control systems in their cockpits.

Details about the seeker system itself are limited, but Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. (SARA) has been developing capabilities like this for integration onto various precision-guided munitions for years now.

"Should an enemy strive to complicate the battlefield by stray or competitive RF energy, SARA’s HOJ subsystems can enable a host guided bomb or missile to engage it as the system or operator might prefer," according to a brochure the company put out circa 2018. "HOJ is compact and 1/10th the production cost of prior-generation systems. HOJ uses solid state components and a common munition interface which provides rapid, low-cost integration."

This is also not the first time that one of SARA's home-on-GPS-jam seekers has been integrated onto a U.S. precision-guided bomb.

In December 2020, the U.S. Air Force conducted a test as part of its Golden Horde networked munitions program that involved GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) each fitted with "a home-on-GPS-jam seeker that gathers information about the battlespace, a software-defined radio for communication between weapons, and a processor preloaded with collaborative algorithms," according to an official release at the time. The test also made use of "technology developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) and Scientific Applications & Research Associates."

It may be possible to incorporate a home-on-GPS-jam capability into other Western-supplied precision-guided munitions for Ukraine in the future, including AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM). HARMs already have a home-on-jam capability, but it's not clear if GPS frequencies are within their existing range, if they could be readily modified to have that functionality, or if Ukrainian combat jets would have the ability to employ them in this mode.

Regardless, providing Ukraine with JDAM-ERs that can zero in on Russia's GPS jammers not only makes good sense, but it could be an increasingly critical capability.

Just last week, Bill LaPlante, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the Pentagon's top weapons buyer, talked about an unspecified precision-guided weapon system falling prey to a combination of GPS jamming and other factors. LaPlante, who was speaking at an open event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) think tank, did not name the weapon system, but provided details that strongly implied it was the Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (SDB), as you can read more about here.

"Excalibur precision artillery rounds initially had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine. However, after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic warfare
systems to counter it," Dr. Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, D.C., said in written testimony submitted ahead of a hearing before members of the House Armed Services Committee back in March. Patt said this data had come by way of Dr. Jack Watling, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank in the United Kingdom. The 155mm Excalibur artillery shell uses a GPS-assisted guidance package.

There had been even earlier reports that JDAM-ERs and ground-launched 227mm Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) artillery rockets were also being negatively impacted by Russian GPS jamming.

Russia's use of GPS jamming extends well beyond Ukraine. In the Baltic region, Russia's employment of such systems, likely to try to protect critical facilities and assets from long-range Ukrainian drone attacks, has become so pronounced that it is now having serious and potentially dangerous impacts on commercial aviation.

With all this in mind, arming Ukraine with munitions capable of homing in on Russian GPS jammers could be very valuable for targeting those systems and, by extension, helping to eliminate, or at least mitigate the impact, of the interference they cause. While destroying the emitters directly will certainly help other guided weapons get to their targets, the mere threat of being destroyed by a standoff weapon as a result of emitting should suppress the jammers' use. At the very least, it could result in them being activated for shorter periods of time before relocating.

The plan now to send JDAM-ERs equipped with the home-on-GPS-jamming seekers to Ukraine also raises the question about what kind of capabilities the U.S. military has in this regard that have not necessarily been publicly disclosed. The Air Force's release about the December 2020 Golden Horde test appeared to be the first official mention of the integration of this capability onto the SDB.

This is doubly important given that reports of how Russian GPS jamming had been degrading the capabilities of U.S-supplied precision-guided munitions have pointed to worrying vulnerabilities in precision-guided weapons that American forces, as well as various allies and partners, also use. This is something The War Zone highlighted after Under Secretary of Defense LaPlante's remarks last week. It makes sense then that the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the U.S. military would be eager to develop and field home-on-GPS-jam capabilities for its own use for the same reasons.

Altogether, the new contract to supply home-on-GPS-jam seekers for JDAM-ERs for Ukraine underscores that Russian jamming is a very real problem. It also points to work now being done to mitigate that issue, which could have ramifications well beyond this particular conflict.

https://www.twz.com/air/jdam-er-winged-bombs-with-seekers-that-home-in-on-gps-jammers-headed-to-ukraine



Link Posted: 5/3/2024 8:41:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

Easily.  They have something like 20x Russia’s GDP.  I think you can make a good case that they already are everywhere but 155 production, and next year they probably will exceed that as well.
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I understand we are the world power, but I would expect Europe to be HIGHLY motivated to get russia stopped immediately if not sooner. But I also get that they are made up of different countries some of which probably don't feel threatened at all. But still.
I just find it frustrating. I find it all frustrating.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 8:53:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I had some moron on reddit arguing with me that a GMLRS rocket was a dud because the target didn’t blow up hollywood-style.  I posted the test footage.
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Lest anyone forget a single M30A1 GMLRS rocket delivers 182,000 BB's-of-Death.

The "ring of dust puffs" is deceiving.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/image_2024-05-03_175815823-3204713.png


I had some moron on reddit arguing with me that a GMLRS rocket was a dud because the target didn’t blow up hollywood-style.  I posted the test footage.


Well, he's welcome to stand under the "dud'.  I've seen the effects of those; it is Not nice to be on the receiving end.
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Situation update from May 3, 2024, on the 800th day of #GuerreEnUkraine

The spring-summer offensive 🇷🇺 unfolds and intensifies between #Luhansk and #Donetsk , taking advantage of a window of opportunity in which Western aid is still awaited






🔥 41 OMBr publishes footage of enemy damage on the outskirts of Chasovoy Yar

⚔️ In the video, the enemy is being hit at two points within the city limits, but, as the fighters in that area say, the Katsaps can run in, but they are destroyed with skids and artillery. The situation near the city remains difficult, because the enemy does not stop trying to enter the city. Although the last weeks can be called stable in terms of changes to the LBZ in this area.

🤝 Indeed, we have managed to improve the interaction, which has borne fruit.

💬 In a recent interview with The Economist, a representative of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitsky, said that there is a possibility that the city will fall, as Avdiivka recently did. This is indeed the case if the enemy can continue to crush the Defense Force with flesh.

🏚 The loss of the Temporal Yar will directly motivate the enemy to continue the war and look for further meat resources, because there will be a prospect of an exit to the Kramatorsk agglomeration. Unfortunately, 9 months without supplies of American weapons significantly affected the defense capabilities of the Defense Forces and the configuration of forces near the key city.

📍


https://twitter.com/Deepstate_UA/status/1786435661475496003











Link Posted: 5/3/2024 8:58:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
JDAM-ER Winged Bombs With Seekers That Home In On GPS Jammers Headed To Ukraine

Plans to give Ukraine JDAM-ERs with new seekers come as Western precision-guided munitions are reportedly suffering from Russian GPS jamming.

BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK

PUBLISHED MAY 3, 2024 8:02 PM EDT



The U.S. Air Force is buying add-on seekers designed to give Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range (JDAM-ER) precision-guided bombs supplied to Ukraine the ability to zero in on GPS jammers. In effect, this would turn one of the weapons most impacted by this countermeasure into one used to directly attack it. This follows growing reports that Russian jamming is severely degrading the effectiveness of Western-supplied GPS-guided munitions, including JDAM-ERs.

The Pentagon announced today that the U.S. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center (AFLCMC) had awarded Cypress, California-headquartered Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. a contract valued at $23,554,341 for "the acquisition of Home-on GPS Jam seekers" and the "integration of the extended range seekers into existing Joint Direct Attack Munition wing kits."

"This contract involves Foreign Military Sales to Ukraine," the Pentagon's announcement also noted.

JDAM-ERs have been in use in Ukraine since at least March 2023. The Ukrainian Air Force's Soviet-era MiG-29 Fulcrums and Su-27 Flankers are being used to employ these weapons with the help of specialized pylons and tablet-based control systems in their cockpits.

Details about the seeker system itself are limited, but Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. (SARA) has been developing capabilities like this for integration onto various precision-guided munitions for years now.

"Should an enemy strive to complicate the battlefield by stray or competitive RF energy, SARA’s HOJ subsystems can enable a host guided bomb or missile to engage it as the system or operator might prefer," according to a brochure the company put out circa 2018. "HOJ is compact and 1/10th the production cost of prior-generation systems. HOJ uses solid state components and a common munition interface which provides rapid, low-cost integration."

This is also not the first time that one of SARA's home-on-GPS-jam seekers has been integrated onto a U.S. precision-guided bomb.

In December 2020, the U.S. Air Force conducted a test as part of its Golden Horde networked munitions program that involved GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) each fitted with "a home-on-GPS-jam seeker that gathers information about the battlespace, a software-defined radio for communication between weapons, and a processor preloaded with collaborative algorithms," according to an official release at the time. The test also made use of "technology developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) and Scientific Applications & Research Associates."

It may be possible to incorporate a home-on-GPS-jam capability into other Western-supplied precision-guided munitions for Ukraine in the future, including AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM). HARMs already have a home-on-jam capability, but it's not clear if GPS frequencies are within their existing range, if they could be readily modified to have that functionality, or if Ukrainian combat jets would have the ability to employ them in this mode.

Regardless, providing Ukraine with JDAM-ERs that can zero in on Russia's GPS jammers not only makes good sense, but it could be an increasingly critical capability.

Just last week, Bill LaPlante, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the Pentagon's top weapons buyer, talked about an unspecified precision-guided weapon system falling prey to a combination of GPS jamming and other factors. LaPlante, who was speaking at an open event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) think tank, did not name the weapon system, but provided details that strongly implied it was the Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (SDB), as you can read more about here.

"Excalibur precision artillery rounds initially had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine. However, after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic warfare
systems to counter it," Dr. Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, D.C., said in written testimony submitted ahead of a hearing before members of the House Armed Services Committee back in March. Patt said this data had come by way of Dr. Jack Watling, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank in the United Kingdom. The 155mm Excalibur artillery shell uses a GPS-assisted guidance package.

There had been even earlier reports that JDAM-ERs and ground-launched 227mm Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) artillery rockets were also being negatively impacted by Russian GPS jamming.

Russia's use of GPS jamming extends well beyond Ukraine. In the Baltic region, Russia's employment of such systems, likely to try to protect critical facilities and assets from long-range Ukrainian drone attacks, has become so pronounced that it is now having serious and potentially dangerous impacts on commercial aviation.

With all this in mind, arming Ukraine with munitions capable of homing in on Russian GPS jammers could be very valuable for targeting those systems and, by extension, helping to eliminate, or at least mitigate the impact, of the interference they cause. While destroying the emitters directly will certainly help other guided weapons get to their targets, the mere threat of being destroyed by a standoff weapon as a result of emitting should suppress the jammers' use. At the very least, it could result in them being activated for shorter periods of time before relocating.

The plan now to send JDAM-ERs equipped with the home-on-GPS-jamming seekers to Ukraine also raises the question about what kind of capabilities the U.S. military has in this regard that have not necessarily been publicly disclosed. The Air Force's release about the December 2020 Golden Horde test appeared to be the first official mention of the integration of this capability onto the SDB.

This is doubly important given that reports of how Russian GPS jamming had been degrading the capabilities of U.S-supplied precision-guided munitions have pointed to worrying vulnerabilities in precision-guided weapons that American forces, as well as various allies and partners, also use. This is something The War Zone highlighted after Under Secretary of Defense LaPlante's remarks last week. It makes sense then that the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the U.S. military would be eager to develop and field home-on-GPS-jam capabilities for its own use for the same reasons.

Altogether, the new contract to supply home-on-GPS-jam seekers for JDAM-ERs for Ukraine underscores that Russian jamming is a very real problem. It also points to work now being done to mitigate that issue, which could have ramifications well beyond this particular conflict.

https://www.twz.com/air/jdam-er-winged-bombs-with-seekers-that-home-in-on-gps-jammers-headed-to-ukraine

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Neat.

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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:04:13 PM EDT
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"All of you will die, but know one thing:
Mother Russia will never forget us".

Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:06:42 PM EDT
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Well, he's welcome to stand under the "dud'.  I've seen the effects of those; it is Not nice to be on the receiving end.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By doc540:
Lest anyone forget a single M30A1 GMLRS rocket delivers 182,000 BB's-of-Death.

The "ring of dust puffs" is deceiving.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/image_2024-05-03_175815823-3204713.png


I had some moron on reddit arguing with me that a GMLRS rocket was a dud because the target didn’t blow up hollywood-style.  I posted the test footage.


Well, he's welcome to stand under the "dud'.  I've seen the effects of those; it is Not nice to be on the receiving end.

I think he’s an actual shill because even after the test footage his response was “the west is just sending crap and most of everything are duds.”
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:08:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:08:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


I understand we are the world power, but I would expect Europe to be HIGHLY motivated to get russia stopped immediately if not sooner. But I also get that they are made up of different countries some of which probably don't feel threatened at all. But still.
I just find it frustrating. I find it all frustrating.
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Originally Posted By stone-age:
Originally Posted By Capta:

Easily.  They have something like 20x Russia’s GDP.  I think you can make a good case that they already are everywhere but 155 production, and next year they probably will exceed that as well.


I understand we are the world power, but I would expect Europe to be HIGHLY motivated to get russia stopped immediately if not sooner. But I also get that they are made up of different countries some of which probably don't feel threatened at all. But still.
I just find it frustrating. I find it all frustrating.

Europe and us have to free ourselves of 30 years of sloth and Russian influence games.  It was never going to happen overnight unless we never fell asleep in the first place.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:13:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



You had me at Spike missile.

https://defence-industry.eu/feloni-aero-introduces-weaponized-drones-to-strengthen-defence-efforts-in-ukraine/





https://militaryleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/FelonX.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:380x238/rscb1/ngcb1/notWebP

Mini Spike test footage in the U.S.  the missile costs $5,000.

https://chuckhillscgblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/spikenavy-5-lb-missle-inline-660x660.jpg

https://chuckhillscgblog.net/2016/05/10/china-lake-spike-the-5000-missile/



This could get interesting.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

These are the Felon 1.0 c with a 5.56 mm caliber weapon system and the FelonX, which has the world's smallest Spike missile


You had me at Spike missile.

https://defence-industry.eu/feloni-aero-introduces-weaponized-drones-to-strengthen-defence-efforts-in-ukraine/

“Our mission at Feloni Aero is to empower nations with cutting-edge defence technologies that ensure safety and security in an ever-evolving geopolitical landscape,” said Todd Dunphy, CEO at Feloni Aero. “With the unwavering support from the United States government through the recent spending bill, we stand ready to contribute to Ukraine’s defence efforts by delivering advanced weaponized UAVs that redefine the paradigm of modern warfare.”

Feloni Aero’s weaponized UAVs are designed to address the diverse needs of military operations, offering customizable configurations to suit specific mission requirements. From reconnaissance and surveillance to precision strikes and target acquisition, these drones deliver unparalleled performance and reliability in the field.


The company’s counter drone millimeter wave technology represents a revolutionary approach to mitigating the growing threat posed by unauthorized drones in sensitive airspace. Utilizing millimeter wave technology, these systems offer unparalleled precision and effectiveness in detecting, tracking, and neutralizing rogue drones. This advanced technology enables rapid response to potential threats, safeguarding critical infrastructure, public events, and military installations from malicious drone incursions. With its ability to provide real-time situational awareness and proactive countermeasures, the C-UAS technology emerges as a critical asset in the defence against unauthorized drone activity


https://militaryleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/FelonX.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:380x238/rscb1/ngcb1/notWebP

Mini Spike test footage in the U.S.  the missile costs $5,000.

https://chuckhillscgblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/spikenavy-5-lb-missle-inline-660x660.jpg

https://chuckhillscgblog.net/2016/05/10/china-lake-spike-the-5000-missile/

We have talked about the need for a small missile to deal with small, fast, highly maneuverable threats, with less chance of collateral damage than is inherent in using guns.  We have talked about Hellfire, Brimstone, Griffin, and guided 70mm rockets. Now it appears there is now an even smaller and much cheaper weapon that seems almost ideal for this end of the target spectrum. It has been in development for quite a while, but appears ready for production. Its range and precision appear to be much better than the machine guns we are currently using.

The Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at China Lake has developed a very small missile called “Spike,” and the price is right–a marginal coast for each additional missile of only about $5000. This should not be confused with the Israeli missile family also called Spike. The following from the Wikipedia entry on the system:

Spike was designed by the U.S. Navy, with assistance from DRS Technologies, and is proclaimed to be “the world’s smallest guided missile.” Initially made to be carried by U.S. Marines, with three missiles and the launcher able to fit in a standard backpack, it weighs 5.4 lb (2.4 kg), is 25 in (640 mm) long, and 2.25 in (57 mm) in diameter. The warhead weighs about 1 lb (450 gr) and employs the Explosively Formed Projectile (EFP) effect, made to penetrate before detonating. It is powered by a small rocket motor that gives it a range exceeding 2 mi (3.2 km), making it safer and more accurate than rocket propelled grenades (RPGs). The missile is directed to its target by either an electro-optical (EO) or semi-active laser (SAL) seeker; the EO camera is similar to a basic cellphone camera, containing a 1-megapixel video camera that allows the shooter to select the area to engage in a fire-and-forget mode. The EO seeker cannot operate at night, so the SAL would have to be used. A third targeting mode is inertial, meaning the user can “snap and shoot” at a target without needing to lock on out to 200 meters. Both the Spike missile and reusable launcher each cost $5,000 and weigh 10 lb (4.5 kg) loaded, compared to 49 lb (22 kg) for a Javelin missile and fire control unit.

It has an unusual development history, being developed in house, quickly, at low cost, in response to a “rapid development capabilities” (RDC) program. Consequently the government now owns the design and can be assembled by contractors with no prior missile manufacturing experience and uses Commercial Off the Shelf (COTS) components.

It is included in the FY2017 Navy budget along with Griffin and Javalin as program element 3342: “Griffin Missile” intended to develop and deliver Counter-Swarm Small Boat defense capabilities for the Surface Fleet. (It is also interesting to see that this program still anticipates the use of the Griffin missile system (GMS) by the LCS even though the Long Bow Hellfire has already been selected to arm these ships.)

The missile is reportedly also effective against UAVs, helicopters, and some general aviation aircraft, so it should offer a degree of defense against attacks using these types of platforms.


This could get interesting.


Sure could.




Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:15:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

These are the Felon 1.0 c with a 5.56 mm caliber weapon system and the FelonX, which has the world's smallest Spike missile


You had me at Spike missile.

https://defence-industry.eu/feloni-aero-introduces-weaponized-drones-to-strengthen-defence-efforts-in-ukraine/

“Our mission at Feloni Aero is to empower nations with cutting-edge defence technologies that ensure safety and security in an ever-evolving geopolitical landscape,” said Todd Dunphy, CEO at Feloni Aero. “With the unwavering support from the United States government through the recent spending bill, we stand ready to contribute to Ukraine’s defence efforts by delivering advanced weaponized UAVs that redefine the paradigm of modern warfare.”

Feloni Aero’s weaponized UAVs are designed to address the diverse needs of military operations, offering customizable configurations to suit specific mission requirements. From reconnaissance and surveillance to precision strikes and target acquisition, these drones deliver unparalleled performance and reliability in the field.


The company’s counter drone millimeter wave technology represents a revolutionary approach to mitigating the growing threat posed by unauthorized drones in sensitive airspace. Utilizing millimeter wave technology, these systems offer unparalleled precision and effectiveness in detecting, tracking, and neutralizing rogue drones. This advanced technology enables rapid response to potential threats, safeguarding critical infrastructure, public events, and military installations from malicious drone incursions. With its ability to provide real-time situational awareness and proactive countermeasures, the C-UAS technology emerges as a critical asset in the defence against unauthorized drone activity


https://militaryleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/FelonX.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:380x238/rscb1/ngcb1/notWebP

Mini Spike test footage in the U.S.  the missile costs $5,000.

https://chuckhillscgblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/spikenavy-5-lb-missle-inline-660x660.jpg

https://chuckhillscgblog.net/2016/05/10/china-lake-spike-the-5000-missile/

We have talked about the need for a small missile to deal with small, fast, highly maneuverable threats, with less chance of collateral damage than is inherent in using guns.  We have talked about Hellfire, Brimstone, Griffin, and guided 70mm rockets. Now it appears there is now an even smaller and much cheaper weapon that seems almost ideal for this end of the target spectrum. It has been in development for quite a while, but appears ready for production. Its range and precision appear to be much better than the machine guns we are currently using.

The Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at China Lake has developed a very small missile called “Spike,” and the price is right–a marginal coast for each additional missile of only about $5000. This should not be confused with the Israeli missile family also called Spike. The following from the Wikipedia entry on the system:

Spike was designed by the U.S. Navy, with assistance from DRS Technologies, and is proclaimed to be “the world’s smallest guided missile.” Initially made to be carried by U.S. Marines, with three missiles and the launcher able to fit in a standard backpack, it weighs 5.4 lb (2.4 kg), is 25 in (640 mm) long, and 2.25 in (57 mm) in diameter. The warhead weighs about 1 lb (450 gr) and employs the Explosively Formed Projectile (EFP) effect, made to penetrate before detonating. It is powered by a small rocket motor that gives it a range exceeding 2 mi (3.2 km), making it safer and more accurate than rocket propelled grenades (RPGs). The missile is directed to its target by either an electro-optical (EO) or semi-active laser (SAL) seeker; the EO camera is similar to a basic cellphone camera, containing a 1-megapixel video camera that allows the shooter to select the area to engage in a fire-and-forget mode. The EO seeker cannot operate at night, so the SAL would have to be used. A third targeting mode is inertial, meaning the user can “snap and shoot” at a target without needing to lock on out to 200 meters. Both the Spike missile and reusable launcher each cost $5,000 and weigh 10 lb (4.5 kg) loaded, compared to 49 lb (22 kg) for a Javelin missile and fire control unit.

It has an unusual development history, being developed in house, quickly, at low cost, in response to a “rapid development capabilities” (RDC) program. Consequently the government now owns the design and can be assembled by contractors with no prior missile manufacturing experience and uses Commercial Off the Shelf (COTS) components.

It is included in the FY2017 Navy budget along with Griffin and Javalin as program element 3342: “Griffin Missile” intended to develop and deliver Counter-Swarm Small Boat defense capabilities for the Surface Fleet. (It is also interesting to see that this program still anticipates the use of the Griffin missile system (GMS) by the LCS even though the Long Bow Hellfire has already been selected to arm these ships.)

The missile is reportedly also effective against UAVs, helicopters, and some general aviation aircraft, so it should offer a degree of defense against attacks using these types of platforms.


This could get interesting.


Sure could.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMq_yzBXUAAZLky?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMrAjr1W8AEO1FH?format=jpg&name=large

In for the clone build!
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:15:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 9:16:42 PM EDT
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When we evaluate how weapons perform, it is important to note the conditions in which they operate. Abrams were committed into the fight this winter at a time when Ukraine had a lack of infantry as well as mines, ATGMs, air defense, and artillery ammunition. This may seem bizarre from the outside, but Ukraine often employs tanks in a manner to compensate for a lack of infantry or ammunition for other systems because those are the conditions they face.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1786437807403102569


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Lemme guess. It blinds the remote pilot?

Or they really use it to spot aircraft?
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Germany refurbing more Leopard-1s for Ukraine
Translated:
Germany has already converted significantly more Leopard 1 tanks for Ukraine than previously known. Problems with the complicated maintenance of the combat vehicles, which are up to 40 years old, appear to have been overcome.

The news sounded embarrassing for Germany . “ Ukraine is still waiting for Danish tanks,” wrote the Copenhagen daily “Jyllands-Posten” in March, referring to the government in Copenhagen. And it pointed to Berlin – from where the repair of the vehicles was supposed to be coordinated quickly.

Instead of the “more than 100” Leopards promised by Defense Minister Boris Pistorius by the end of 2023, just 30 had been overhauled by Germany ready for combat and handed over to Kiev by March. “The Germans were late with their repairs,” criticized Pistorius’s Danish counterpart, Troels Lund Poulsen. Ouch.

But the situation isn't that bad after all. This was the result of inquiries from WirtschaftsWoche with ministries and defense companies. “In principle, German industry was able to comply with the contractually agreed deliveries,” said a spokesman for the Ministry of Defense. Of the 110 vehicles promised in February 2023, Ukraine “now owns more than half,” explained Wolfgang Beckers, who heads the maintenance of the Leopards at the Flensburg company FFG. In addition to these almost 60 tanks, another 30 or so have already been fully upgraded, the Danish Ministry of Defense said when asked. So Ukraine already has 90 Leo-1 tanks.

And the rest will follow soon. The remaining 20 systems would probably be completed by the end of June, according to industry circles. In addition, 25 more battle tanks have been promised by the second half of the year and are currently being dispatched. Ukraine would then have a total of 135 Leo-1 tanks.

This would more than achieve the goal set by the Danish Ministry of Defense of equipping two battalions with around 80 tanks. As the US magazine Forbes reported in January, Ukraine wants to set up its own brigade exclusively with older German tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. The Leopard-1A5 and Marder models are to be used in the 25th Ukrainian brigade. The old vehicles have worse armor than newer Leopard-2 models. However, this also means they are lighter, more mobile and can roll over muddy terrain.

According to industry circles, the fact that a good 90 tanks are currently finished is “a small masterpiece”. Especially since FFG initially had some problems getting the tanks, which had been stored for around ten years, ready for combat again. The unexpectedly poor condition of the vehicles was particularly difficult. In addition, the technical re-registration of the vehicles delivered to Denmark from 1974 proved to be difficult. Apparently there was no evidence of explosive safety for a long period of time.

According to those involved, the catch-up race went “fully according to plan” after the problems had been eliminated - only the training of the crew and additional training requests for Ukrainian maintenance technicians had led to delays in getting the tanks across the border. “Together with Ukraine, it has been determined that additional training for specialists is required,” says FFG manager Beckers. Around 30 training tanks will therefore have to stay in Germany for a longer period of time. But this process has apparently been taken into account - and is therefore anything but embarrassing.
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So is this the new Ukraine war thread?
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My thought is, don't mistake the Russian-Chinese relationship as an "alliance" or that they have gotten "closer."  China is doing what benefits China.  This is a point I mentioned a week or two ago.
Lets say that we're correct in believing that China is providing low-to-moderate levels of assistance.
They likely "gave permission" for North Korea to supply artillery shells sufficient for 6-9 months of consumption, getting Russia through a tight spot.
They have provided DIB assistance to help them with production/refurbishment of existing kit in return (allegedly) for high-tech exchange.
All this has done is enable Russia to keep shoveling men and material into Ukraine while convincing themselves that just a bit more will win.  And every day they get weaker and lose far more than they can produce.  They keep doing it in part because China helps them stay in the war, but no more than that.  And from the other side, the west gives Ukraine enough assistance to keep Russia from winning but not enough to defeat them.  Both the West and China are taking actions with precisely the same effect on Russia. This is a big tell.
Who benefits from Russia grinding itself to powder in Ukraine?  That's right, China.  And us.  I don't think China has any illusions about using Russia to grind down the West, because they aren't.  Nothing relevant against China is being used up in Ukraine, and they know it.  That's why I think China's game with Russia is directed at Russia, not the West.
There's an anecdote from Russian gulag memoirs.  When people tried to escape from a gulag in the middle of nowhere Siberia, they did it as a group of three prisoners.  Two who actually had the strength and endurance to survive the elements and escape, and a third known as "the sandwich."  When the sandwich died, they ate him and kept going.  The third guy never knew he was the sandwich, until the end.  He was literally a self-carrying food source.
Russia has not yet figured out that they're the sandwich.
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I think that in a new world which the Russians themselves created, it will be a scramble for (formerly Russian) resources the likes of which hasn't been seen since the 18th Century scramble for the resources of the New World.  Who gets the resources/who is denied the resources?  These are the questions of the next century.
I said a long time ago that IMO our long-term plan is to maneuver China and Russia into conflict over the Russian far East, because the last thing we want is for China to benefit from Russia weakness.  China will bite off something eventually, Russia will declare war, and we'll support Russia against China, for a price.  So will Europe.  We should be able to get them to do plenty of damage to each other, then we clean up.  

I have also suggested this as well. It's the best strategy to pursue but instead our bumbling "leadership" has pushed to the Axis closer than further away.

My thought is, don't mistake the Russian-Chinese relationship as an "alliance" or that they have gotten "closer."  China is doing what benefits China.  This is a point I mentioned a week or two ago.
Lets say that we're correct in believing that China is providing low-to-moderate levels of assistance.
They likely "gave permission" for North Korea to supply artillery shells sufficient for 6-9 months of consumption, getting Russia through a tight spot.
They have provided DIB assistance to help them with production/refurbishment of existing kit in return (allegedly) for high-tech exchange.
All this has done is enable Russia to keep shoveling men and material into Ukraine while convincing themselves that just a bit more will win.  And every day they get weaker and lose far more than they can produce.  They keep doing it in part because China helps them stay in the war, but no more than that.  And from the other side, the west gives Ukraine enough assistance to keep Russia from winning but not enough to defeat them.  Both the West and China are taking actions with precisely the same effect on Russia. This is a big tell.
Who benefits from Russia grinding itself to powder in Ukraine?  That's right, China.  And us.  I don't think China has any illusions about using Russia to grind down the West, because they aren't.  Nothing relevant against China is being used up in Ukraine, and they know it.  That's why I think China's game with Russia is directed at Russia, not the West.
There's an anecdote from Russian gulag memoirs.  When people tried to escape from a gulag in the middle of nowhere Siberia, they did it as a group of three prisoners.  Two who actually had the strength and endurance to survive the elements and escape, and a third known as "the sandwich."  When the sandwich died, they ate him and kept going.  The third guy never knew he was the sandwich, until the end.  He was literally a self-carrying food source.
Russia has not yet figured out that they're the sandwich.

Appreciate your insights Capta and certainly agree with all of it. The new Axis alliance is certainly one of convenience despite the public shows of support amongst them however their IO game is something I just haven't seen attacked by us and likely why we appear to be "losing" in places like Africa and the Middle East.

Long past time for us to have our own Chinese 50 Cent Party / Russian Web Brigades of trolls to influence social media INSIDE Russian and Chinese cyberspace..
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Yes.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

These are the Felon 1.0 c with a 5.56 mm caliber weapon system and the FelonX, which has the world's smallest Spike missile


You had me at Spike missile.

https://defence-industry.eu/feloni-aero-introduces-weaponized-drones-to-strengthen-defence-efforts-in-ukraine/

“Our mission at Feloni Aero is to empower nations with cutting-edge defence technologies that ensure safety and security in an ever-evolving geopolitical landscape,” said Todd Dunphy, CEO at Feloni Aero. “With the unwavering support from the United States government through the recent spending bill, we stand ready to contribute to Ukraine’s defence efforts by delivering advanced weaponized UAVs that redefine the paradigm of modern warfare.”

Feloni Aero’s weaponized UAVs are designed to address the diverse needs of military operations, offering customizable configurations to suit specific mission requirements. From reconnaissance and surveillance to precision strikes and target acquisition, these drones deliver unparalleled performance and reliability in the field.


The company’s counter drone millimeter wave technology represents a revolutionary approach to mitigating the growing threat posed by unauthorized drones in sensitive airspace. Utilizing millimeter wave technology, these systems offer unparalleled precision and effectiveness in detecting, tracking, and neutralizing rogue drones. This advanced technology enables rapid response to potential threats, safeguarding critical infrastructure, public events, and military installations from malicious drone incursions. With its ability to provide real-time situational awareness and proactive countermeasures, the C-UAS technology emerges as a critical asset in the defence against unauthorized drone activity


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Mini Spike test footage in the U.S.  the missile costs $5,000.

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https://chuckhillscgblog.net/2016/05/10/china-lake-spike-the-5000-missile/

We have talked about the need for a small missile to deal with small, fast, highly maneuverable threats, with less chance of collateral damage than is inherent in using guns.  We have talked about Hellfire, Brimstone, Griffin, and guided 70mm rockets. Now it appears there is now an even smaller and much cheaper weapon that seems almost ideal for this end of the target spectrum. It has been in development for quite a while, but appears ready for production. Its range and precision appear to be much better than the machine guns we are currently using.

The Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at China Lake has developed a very small missile called “Spike,” and the price is right–a marginal coast for each additional missile of only about $5000. This should not be confused with the Israeli missile family also called Spike. The following from the Wikipedia entry on the system:

Spike was designed by the U.S. Navy, with assistance from DRS Technologies, and is proclaimed to be “the world’s smallest guided missile.” Initially made to be carried by U.S. Marines, with three missiles and the launcher able to fit in a standard backpack, it weighs 5.4 lb (2.4 kg), is 25 in (640 mm) long, and 2.25 in (57 mm) in diameter. The warhead weighs about 1 lb (450 gr) and employs the Explosively Formed Projectile (EFP) effect, made to penetrate before detonating. It is powered by a small rocket motor that gives it a range exceeding 2 mi (3.2 km), making it safer and more accurate than rocket propelled grenades (RPGs). The missile is directed to its target by either an electro-optical (EO) or semi-active laser (SAL) seeker; the EO camera is similar to a basic cellphone camera, containing a 1-megapixel video camera that allows the shooter to select the area to engage in a fire-and-forget mode. The EO seeker cannot operate at night, so the SAL would have to be used. A third targeting mode is inertial, meaning the user can “snap and shoot” at a target without needing to lock on out to 200 meters. Both the Spike missile and reusable launcher each cost $5,000 and weigh 10 lb (4.5 kg) loaded, compared to 49 lb (22 kg) for a Javelin missile and fire control unit.

It has an unusual development history, being developed in house, quickly, at low cost, in response to a “rapid development capabilities” (RDC) program. Consequently the government now owns the design and can be assembled by contractors with no prior missile manufacturing experience and uses Commercial Off the Shelf (COTS) components.

It is included in the FY2017 Navy budget along with Griffin and Javalin as program element 3342: “Griffin Missile” intended to develop and deliver Counter-Swarm Small Boat defense capabilities for the Surface Fleet. (It is also interesting to see that this program still anticipates the use of the Griffin missile system (GMS) by the LCS even though the Long Bow Hellfire has already been selected to arm these ships.)

The missile is reportedly also effective against UAVs, helicopters, and some general aviation aircraft, so it should offer a degree of defense against attacks using these types of platforms.


This could get interesting.


Sure could.

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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.
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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.
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Strikes me as this phase of the design process.

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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.


Strikes me as this phase of the design process.

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lol.

It might need a few adjustments which they will figure out when it gets into a warzone, but it sounds interesting from the info.




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Only gripe is the unbolded thread title or lack of rating, i accidently scroll past this one sometimes.
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The Crimean bridge in October 2022 was blown up with solid rocket fuel hidden in rolls of polyethylene film - "Kommersant" with reference to the results of expert examination

The power of the explosion charge was estimated at about 10 tons of TNT. The detonator was a plastite explosive device triggered by a GPS signal.

According to the investigation materials, the cargo with fuel and detonator was packed on the territory of Ukraine and then delivered through several countries, including Bulgaria, Georgia and Armenia, to the Russian city of Armavir. From there, the driver, not knowing the contents of the cargo, took it by truck to Crimea.


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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.
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The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.
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JDAM-ER Winged Bombs With Seekers That Home In On GPS Jammers Headed To Ukraine

Plans to give Ukraine JDAM-ERs with new seekers come as Western precision-guided munitions are reportedly suffering from Russian GPS jamming.

BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK

PUBLISHED MAY 3, 2024 8:02 PM EDT



The U.S. Air Force is buying add-on seekers designed to give Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range (JDAM-ER) precision-guided bombs supplied to Ukraine the ability to zero in on GPS jammers. In effect, this would turn one of the weapons most impacted by this countermeasure into one used to directly attack it. This follows growing reports that Russian jamming is severely degrading the effectiveness of Western-supplied GPS-guided munitions, including JDAM-ERs.

The Pentagon announced today that the U.S. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center (AFLCMC) had awarded Cypress, California-headquartered Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. a contract valued at $23,554,341 for "the acquisition of Home-on GPS Jam seekers" and the "integration of the extended range seekers into existing Joint Direct Attack Munition wing kits."

"This contract involves Foreign Military Sales to Ukraine," the Pentagon's announcement also noted.

JDAM-ERs have been in use in Ukraine since at least March 2023. The Ukrainian Air Force's Soviet-era MiG-29 Fulcrums and Su-27 Flankers are being used to employ these weapons with the help of specialized pylons and tablet-based control systems in their cockpits.

Details about the seeker system itself are limited, but Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. (SARA) has been developing capabilities like this for integration onto various precision-guided munitions for years now.

"Should an enemy strive to complicate the battlefield by stray or competitive RF energy, SARA’s HOJ subsystems can enable a host guided bomb or missile to engage it as the system or operator might prefer," according to a brochure the company put out circa 2018. "HOJ is compact and 1/10th the production cost of prior-generation systems. HOJ uses solid state components and a common munition interface which provides rapid, low-cost integration."

This is also not the first time that one of SARA's home-on-GPS-jam seekers has been integrated onto a U.S. precision-guided bomb.

In December 2020, the U.S. Air Force conducted a test as part of its Golden Horde networked munitions program that involved GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) each fitted with "a home-on-GPS-jam seeker that gathers information about the battlespace, a software-defined radio for communication between weapons, and a processor preloaded with collaborative algorithms," according to an official release at the time. The test also made use of "technology developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) and Scientific Applications & Research Associates."

It may be possible to incorporate a home-on-GPS-jam capability into other Western-supplied precision-guided munitions for Ukraine in the future, including AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM). HARMs already have a home-on-jam capability, but it's not clear if GPS frequencies are within their existing range, if they could be readily modified to have that functionality, or if Ukrainian combat jets would have the ability to employ them in this mode.

Regardless, providing Ukraine with JDAM-ERs that can zero in on Russia's GPS jammers not only makes good sense, but it could be an increasingly critical capability.

Just last week, Bill LaPlante, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the Pentagon's top weapons buyer, talked about an unspecified precision-guided weapon system falling prey to a combination of GPS jamming and other factors. LaPlante, who was speaking at an open event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) think tank, did not name the weapon system, but provided details that strongly implied it was the Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (SDB), as you can read more about here.

"Excalibur precision artillery rounds initially had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine. However, after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic warfare
systems to counter it," Dr. Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, D.C., said in written testimony submitted ahead of a hearing before members of the House Armed Services Committee back in March. Patt said this data had come by way of Dr. Jack Watling, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank in the United Kingdom. The 155mm Excalibur artillery shell uses a GPS-assisted guidance package.

There had been even earlier reports that JDAM-ERs and ground-launched 227mm Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) artillery rockets were also being negatively impacted by Russian GPS jamming.

Russia's use of GPS jamming extends well beyond Ukraine. In the Baltic region, Russia's employment of such systems, likely to try to protect critical facilities and assets from long-range Ukrainian drone attacks, has become so pronounced that it is now having serious and potentially dangerous impacts on commercial aviation.

With all this in mind, arming Ukraine with munitions capable of homing in on Russian GPS jammers could be very valuable for targeting those systems and, by extension, helping to eliminate, or at least mitigate the impact, of the interference they cause. While destroying the emitters directly will certainly help other guided weapons get to their targets, the mere threat of being destroyed by a standoff weapon as a result of emitting should suppress the jammers' use. At the very least, it could result in them being activated for shorter periods of time before relocating.

The plan now to send JDAM-ERs equipped with the home-on-GPS-jamming seekers to Ukraine also raises the question about what kind of capabilities the U.S. military has in this regard that have not necessarily been publicly disclosed. The Air Force's release about the December 2020 Golden Horde test appeared to be the first official mention of the integration of this capability onto the SDB.

This is doubly important given that reports of how Russian GPS jamming had been degrading the capabilities of U.S-supplied precision-guided munitions have pointed to worrying vulnerabilities in precision-guided weapons that American forces, as well as various allies and partners, also use. This is something The War Zone highlighted after Under Secretary of Defense LaPlante's remarks last week. It makes sense then that the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the U.S. military would be eager to develop and field home-on-GPS-jam capabilities for its own use for the same reasons.

Altogether, the new contract to supply home-on-GPS-jam seekers for JDAM-ERs for Ukraine underscores that Russian jamming is a very real problem. It also points to work now being done to mitigate that issue, which could have ramifications well beyond this particular conflict.

https://www.twz.com/air/jdam-er-winged-bombs-with-seekers-that-home-in-on-gps-jammers-headed-to-ukraine



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I would think it would be a good idea to stick some of those seeker heads onto the GLSDB's that were not used after GPS jamming rendered them ineffective.  Stick one or two anti GPS units in a launch cell with regular GLSDB's.  Launch the ant-jam rounds 15-20 seconds before the rest to clear out any jammers and the main bombs find their target.
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I would think it would be a good idea to stick some of those seeker heads onto the GLSDB's that were not used after GPS jamming rendered them ineffective.  Stick one or two anti GPS units in a launch cell with regular GLSDB's.  Launch the ant-jam rounds 15-20 seconds before the rest to clear out any jammers and the main bombs find their target.
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The effects pattern of GPS jamming to pretty large, and it is not solely limited to barrage, denial jamming.
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The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.
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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.

The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.

A D60 makes more sense to me.
Also, you don’t really need a turret which adds a lot of weight, cost, and complexity.  Put the rifle in a fixed, slanted mount and fly at a known altitude, control the vertical aim with distance to target and lateral aim with yaw, sight through a RDS and spamfire.
16” pencil barrel because you’ll probably be shooting at 300-400 yards.
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The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.
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Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.

The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.


The belt feeding through the ejection port didn't tell you that?
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ENG. VER. Fire attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on an enemy position. Detailed analysis.
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Lemme guess. It blinds the remote pilot?

Or they really use it to spot aircraft?
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Lemme guess. It blinds the remote pilot?

Or they really use it to spot aircraft?


Spot drones and designate the target for all the dudes standing around with guns to shoot at.  One PKM with a search light wouldn't do much.  One PKM with a search light and 50 dudes with AK's all shooting at the drone the search light is illuminating will work a lot better.  I would rather have radar directed AAA myself, but you use what you have.
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That looks a whole lot more like laser cut plywood than CNC routed plywood. Hence the brown char marks around the edges of the openings.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By planemaker:
Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.


Strikes me as this phase of the design process.

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4D12AQF4aAA9e0lLLA/article-cover_image-shrink_423_752/0/1520064055323?e=1720051200&v=beta&t=JZlhZdooHcZHdX1kYywh8AD4iPu2yB0YB6yEetCtIo8


lol.

It might need a few adjustments which they will figure out when it gets into a warzone, but it sounds interesting from the info.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMro-AuXQAEWcro?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMrpCAEXAAAeFh0?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMrpHTiXEAEZ56P?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMrpKbjWAAElVqU?format=jpg&name=medium


Yeah, those specs don't match the pictures at all. Since the Spike itself was listed above as a 5.6lb unit just by itself, a total max takeoff weight of 7.5lb with battery is pretty much not possible. Same applies to having a gun on board. Vaporware.

ETA: Also, the vertical hover accuracy quoted as being based on GPS or RTK GPS is nonsense. Decent baro altimeter, sure, but not GPS.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:31:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By planemaker:


Those props are really small diameter for the amount of weight in that unit. That means they have to spin really, really fast and create a LOT of noise. I wouldn't expect that unit to have a lot of range or endurance.

The ammo storage seems silly also, inside the fuselage. Anyway, looks like it could hold maybe 25 rounds max. Its probably some conceptual mockup.


Probably. Take a Mavic-sized drone and pretend to scale it up to carry missiles and guns. What could go wrong?
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:38:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:44:08 PM EDT
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There's a site for that.
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Seven
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:51:51 PM EDT
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So the $3 billion supplemental for subs won’t kick in at the earliest according to testimony to Congress - in the year 2028. First half of video addresses recruiting rest address Navy sub production

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https://news.usni.org/2024/05/03/senate-panel-questions-navy-submarine-build-rate-fy2025-virgina-class-buy
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:56:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 11:56:21 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exdMdgfzQqk

This could really keep China up awake at night.
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Cliff notes please.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 12:12:52 AM EDT
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Where can I get a similar light?
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 12:42:49 AM EDT
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Cliff notes please.
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Rocket assisted logistics.
It's good, recommend.

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