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So some of the videos (why didn't Europe conquer Africa in the 1500s and the Florida clovis) seem to be missing info. A major point of Europe not colonizing sub Sahara africa (other than SA) was malaria, and it wasn't mainly messed with until the production of quinine. Clovis points are fluted to make a more clean hafting connection.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/food-matters/quinine-and-empire/ https://www.archaeologysouthwest.org/2021/02/08/whats-the-point-all-about-clovis-points/ |
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Full paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01379-7
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dozens-of-egyptian-pyramids-some-in-giza-sat-along-a-branch-of-the-nile-study-says/ar-BB1mwX4T Dozens of Egyptian pyramids, some in Giza, sat along a branch of the Nile, study says The pyramids in and around Giza have presented a fascinating puzzle for millennia. How did ancient Egyptians move limestone blocks, some weighing more than a ton, without using wheels? Why were these burial structures seemingly built in the remote and inhospitable desert? New research — published Thursday in the journal Communications Earth & Environment — offers a possible answer, providing new evidence that an extinct branch of the Nile River once weaved through the landscape in a much wetter climate. Dozens of Egyptian pyramids across a 40-mile-long range rimmed the waterway, the study says, including the best-known complex in Giza. The waterway allowed workers to transport stone and other materials to build the monuments, according to the study. Raised causeways stretched out horizontally, connecting the pyramids to river ports along the Nile’s bank. Drought, in combination with seismic activity that tilted the landscape, most likely caused the river to dry up over time and ultimately fill with silt, removing most traces of it. The research team based its conclusions on data from satellites that send radar waves to penetrate the Earth’s surface and detect hidden features. It also relied on sediment cores and maps from 1911 to uncover and trace the imprint of the ancient waterway. Such tools are helping environmental scientists map the ancient Nile, which is now covered by desert sand and agricultural fields. Experts have suspected for decades that boats transported workers and tools to build the pyramids. Some past research has put forward hypotheses similar to the new study; the new findings solidify the theory and map a much broader area. “The mapping of the Nile’s ancient channel system has been fragmented and isolated,” an author of the new study, Eman Ghoneim, a professor of earth and ocean sciences at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, wrote in an email. “Ancient Egyptians were using waterways for transportation more often than we thought.” The study looks at 31 pyramids between Lisht, a village south of Cairo, and Giza. They were constructed over roughly 1,000 years, beginning about 4,700 years ago. The pyramid complexes contained tombs for Egyptian royals. High officials were often buried nearby. Some of the granite blocks used to construct them were sourced from locations hundreds of miles south of their sites. In some cases, the blocks could be “mammoth,” weighing several tons, said Peter Der Manuelian, a professor of Egyptology at Harvard University and the director of the Harvard Museum’s Museum of the Ancient East. Manuelian, who was not involved in the new study, said wheels were not used to move the large blocks, which is one reason researchers have long suspected the Egyptians moved materials by water. “It’s all sledges,” he said. “Water helps an awful lot.” In the past, researchers have posited that the Egyptians might have carved canals to the pyramid sites. “Canals and waterway systems have been in the consciousness for decades now,” Manuelian said. But newer theories suggest that the Nile was closer to the pyramids than researchers once thought, he added, and new tools can provide some proof. “Archaeology has gotten more scientific, and you have ground-penetrating radar and satellite imagery,” he said. He added that the new study helps improve maps of ancient Egypt. The findings suggest that millennia ago, the Egyptian climate was wetter overall and the Nile carried a higher volume of water. It separated into multiple branches, one of which — the researchers call it the Ahramat Branch — was about 40 miles long. The locations of the pyramid complexes included in the study correspond in time with estimates of the river branch’s location, according to the authors, as water levels ebbed and flowed over centuries. In addition, several pyramid temples and causeways appear to line up horizontally with the ancient riverbed, which suggests that they were directly connected to the river and most likely used to transport building materials. The study builds on research from 2022, which used ancient evidence of pollen grains from marsh species to suggest that a waterway once cut through the present-day desert. Hader Sheisha, an author of that study who is now an associate professor in the natural history department at the University Museum of Bergen, said the new findings add much-needed evidence to bolster and expand the theory. “The new study, in concordance to our study, shows that when the pyramids were built, the landscape was different from that we see today and shows how the ancient Egyptians could interact with their physical world and harness their environment to achieve their immense projects,” Sheisha said in an email. Ghoneim and her team explain in the study that the Ahramat Branch shifted eastward over time, a process that might have been propelled by drought about 4,050 years ago. Then it gradually dissolved, only to be covered in silt. She said they plan to expand their map and work to detect additional buried branches of the Nile floodplain. Determining the outline and shape of the ancient river branch could help researchers locate the remains of settlements or undiscovered sites before the areas get built over. Manuelian said that today, “housing almost goes right up to the edge of the Giza plateau. Egypt is a vast outdoor museum, and there’s more to be discovered.” |
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Ways Ancient Civilizations Were More Advanced Than You Think |
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Pretty good talk on fire and humans over time.
HOT (Human Origins Today) Topic – Ancient Pyrotechnology: The Role of Fire in Human Evolution |
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Pretty good talk on dogs and humans in the distant past.
HOT (Human Origins Today) Topic – Chasing Tales: Humans, Dogs, and Evolution |
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All roads lead to Sumer …. and the founding Annunakis race from Nibiru.
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Interesting talk about the Storegga Slide Tsunami.
The impact of the Storegga Slide tsunami on the Mesolithic population of Britain |
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Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug View Quote Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. |
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Globalism = bring America down to everyone else's level just to be fair |
Originally Posted By sakohntr: Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sakohntr: Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. I mean really both are the answer. One thing moving forward that will be a problem is stuff like soil depletion/desertification in various parts of the world due to shitty short term focused agronomic processes. |
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Originally Posted By sakohntr: Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sakohntr: Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. One led to the other. Manure was a good (or The) fertilizer. With GMO crops, soil was depleted at a different rate where crop rotation wasn't helping, or farmers decided to all go with the one high yielding crop over and over, making fertilizer a requirement instead of an option. Before GMO fertilizer helped but wasn't a necessity as it is today even with crop rotation, unless they rotate it out for grazing for a few years on top. Analysis to find the specific fertilizers needed, such as nitrogen only and no phosphorous or potassium wasn't going until the 1950s, so they could tune the nitrogen/potassium/phosphorous and then trace elements to match what the field needed. Putting too much of a general fertilizer on wasn't working and they had to rotate crops anyway that would tolerate it and fix more nitrogen. GMO necessitated specific fertilizer mixes, and "general" fertilizer was useful to farm land that was "used up" so it's a toss up, I'm going with GMO for the exponential increase in crop yields. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
Originally Posted By DaGoose: Good discussion around the peopling of the Americas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6x5jdl7NYA View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier: Civilizations have bee rising and falling since GOD flung humans on the Earth. Hell we are living through a fall View Quote Opening of Conan the Barbarian (1982) (HD-720p) |
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Video around the Oseberg ship that was mentioned in one of the earlier videos.
The Oseberg: The 1,000-Year-Old Viking Ship Of The Dead | The Lost Realm |
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Originally Posted By brass: One led to the other. Manure was a good (or The) fertilizer. With GMO crops, soil was depleted at a different rate where crop rotation wasn't helping, or farmers decided to all go with the one high yielding crop over and over, making fertilizer a requirement instead of an option. Before GMO fertilizer helped but wasn't a necessity as it is today even with crop rotation, unless they rotate it out for grazing for a few years on top. Analysis to find the specific fertilizers needed, such as nitrogen only and no phosphorous or potassium wasn't going until the 1950s, so they could tune the nitrogen/potassium/phosphorous and then trace elements to match what the field needed. Putting too much of a general fertilizer on wasn't working and they had to rotate crops anyway that would tolerate it and fix more nitrogen. GMO necessitated specific fertilizer mixes, and "general" fertilizer was useful to farm land that was "used up" so it's a toss up, I'm going with GMO for the exponential increase in crop yields. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sakohntr: Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. One led to the other. Manure was a good (or The) fertilizer. With GMO crops, soil was depleted at a different rate where crop rotation wasn't helping, or farmers decided to all go with the one high yielding crop over and over, making fertilizer a requirement instead of an option. Before GMO fertilizer helped but wasn't a necessity as it is today even with crop rotation, unless they rotate it out for grazing for a few years on top. Analysis to find the specific fertilizers needed, such as nitrogen only and no phosphorous or potassium wasn't going until the 1950s, so they could tune the nitrogen/potassium/phosphorous and then trace elements to match what the field needed. Putting too much of a general fertilizer on wasn't working and they had to rotate crops anyway that would tolerate it and fix more nitrogen. GMO necessitated specific fertilizer mixes, and "general" fertilizer was useful to farm land that was "used up" so it's a toss up, I'm going with GMO for the exponential increase in crop yields. |
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Originally Posted By DaGoose: https://i1.wp.com/mathscinotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/KeyGraph.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DaGoose: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sakohntr: Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. One led to the other. Manure was a good (or The) fertilizer. With GMO crops, soil was depleted at a different rate where crop rotation wasn't helping, or farmers decided to all go with the one high yielding crop over and over, making fertilizer a requirement instead of an option. Before GMO fertilizer helped but wasn't a necessity as it is today even with crop rotation, unless they rotate it out for grazing for a few years on top. Analysis to find the specific fertilizers needed, such as nitrogen only and no phosphorous or potassium wasn't going until the 1950s, so they could tune the nitrogen/potassium/phosphorous and then trace elements to match what the field needed. Putting too much of a general fertilizer on wasn't working and they had to rotate crops anyway that would tolerate it and fix more nitrogen. GMO necessitated specific fertilizer mixes, and "general" fertilizer was useful to farm land that was "used up" so it's a toss up, I'm going with GMO for the exponential increase in crop yields. https://i1.wp.com/mathscinotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/KeyGraph.png Haber-Bosch - 1913 Soil Analysis - late 1940s-1950s Borlaug - 1953 I guess knowing which fertilizer needed and genetics tie? Though Haber-Bosch was greatly expanded in WW II for explosives as a critical chemical, so all that extra ammonia made it cheaper once the war was over so more farms used it? It really is sort of a toss up, cheaper ammonia fertilizer after the war, genetic manipulation, and knowing what was too much or lacking in dirt all happened around the same time. The chart shows WW II ending to 1950 as the elbow in the exponential curve. Oddly, that all lines up perfectly with Roswell in 1947... |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
Originally Posted By brass: Haber-Bosch - 1913 Soil Analysis - late 1940s-1950s Borlaug - 1953 I guess knowing which fertilizer needed and genetics tie? Though Haber-Bosch was greatly expanded in WW II for explosives as a critical chemical, so all that extra ammonia made it cheaper once the war was over so more farms used it? It really is sort of a toss up, cheaper ammonia fertilizer after the war, genetic manipulation, and knowing what was too much or lacking in dirt all happened around the same time. The chart shows WW II ending to 1950 as the elbow in the exponential curve. Oddly, that all lines up perfectly with Roswell in 1947... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By DaGoose: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sakohntr: Originally Posted By webtaz99: We got to 8 billion mainly because of one man - Norman Borlaug Wrong. Fertilizer. Care of the Haber Bosch process. One led to the other. Manure was a good (or The) fertilizer. With GMO crops, soil was depleted at a different rate where crop rotation wasn't helping, or farmers decided to all go with the one high yielding crop over and over, making fertilizer a requirement instead of an option. Before GMO fertilizer helped but wasn't a necessity as it is today even with crop rotation, unless they rotate it out for grazing for a few years on top. Analysis to find the specific fertilizers needed, such as nitrogen only and no phosphorous or potassium wasn't going until the 1950s, so they could tune the nitrogen/potassium/phosphorous and then trace elements to match what the field needed. Putting too much of a general fertilizer on wasn't working and they had to rotate crops anyway that would tolerate it and fix more nitrogen. GMO necessitated specific fertilizer mixes, and "general" fertilizer was useful to farm land that was "used up" so it's a toss up, I'm going with GMO for the exponential increase in crop yields. https://i1.wp.com/mathscinotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/KeyGraph.png Haber-Bosch - 1913 Soil Analysis - late 1940s-1950s Borlaug - 1953 I guess knowing which fertilizer needed and genetics tie? Though Haber-Bosch was greatly expanded in WW II for explosives as a critical chemical, so all that extra ammonia made it cheaper once the war was over so more farms used it? It really is sort of a toss up, cheaper ammonia fertilizer after the war, genetic manipulation, and knowing what was too much or lacking in dirt all happened around the same time. The chart shows WW II ending to 1950 as the elbow in the exponential curve. Oddly, that all lines up perfectly with Roswell in 1947... There was also a huge increase in tractors bought after WW2 was over which would allow a large increase in yield over doing it by mule/horse/hand. |
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Discussion around origins of Corn from Teosinte.
Human Origins Today – From Ancient Teosinte to Modern Corn: The Domestication of Plants and People |
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Yummy giant rats!
HOT (Human Origins Today) Topic – Less Is More: The Inclusion of Small Game in Ancient Human Diets |
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Interesting talk about Greenland's climate being much different in the last 10K years.
CPEP Seminar: Missing Ice and Altered Ecosystems: Climate Lessons from a Warmer Greenland |
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Pretty good talk on the last glacial period in Arizona.
Ice Age Arizona: Plants, animals, & people |
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Talk around the Utah area during the last glacial period.
Lost Oasis: The Ice Age Archaeology of Utah's West Desert |
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Ice Age Horses of the American West |
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A lot of sources in the description if you want to go further down the rabbit hole.
23,000-Year-Old Settlement & Earliest Cultivation: Ohalo II | Ancient Architects |
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Related to the Ohalo II video above. Lots of sources in the comments too.
The Birth of Civilisation - The First Farmers (20000 BC to 8800 BC) |
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Related to the two above.
"From hunting and harvesting to cultivation, herding and domestication" |
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Related to the three above.
"Settling down, staying together: from Epi-palaeolithic to Neolithic" by Prof Trevor Watkins |
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Nick is really good at teaching and his channel has a lot of good lectures.
Nick Zentner - J Harlen Bretz and the Ice Age Floods: New Discoveries https://www.youtube.com/@GeologyNick/videos Playlist about the floods in the PNW. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcKUIuDhdLl8vX-BxYQQ0FW5nEIEIAQgL |
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Video to go with the above Egypt posting. It has a few more sources if you want to read/watch more about it.
LOST 'Pyramid Branch' of the River Nile Discovered + Hawass Not Happy | Ancient Architects |
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Good talk. Seems to be mostly a North American focus.
Hunter Gatherers During the Ice Age Dr. Charles Speer |
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Smaug:"I laid low the warriors of old and their like is not in the world today". 1 dedicated marksman who held his ground and kept shooting:"Haha bow go twang!"
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Another good talk on origins on agriculture.
ICArEHB Dialogues: Origins of Agriculture |
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Good talk on migrations. First presenter is hard to understand at times, but has some good data points.
ICArEHB Dialogues: Migrations and Dispersals in the Mesolithic and Neolithic |
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Didn't care much for the format, but some of the slides were interesting.
ICArEHB Dialogues: Humanity and Climate Change |
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Pretty good coverage of a lot of the variables.
A Shift in the Earth's Cycles Is Coming - Will It Affect You? |
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Talk about the White Sands footprints.
Peopling the playas: North American evidence for an earlier pre-Clovis migration |
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Very technical talk on Basque language and Indo-European languages.
Indo-European and Basque, pt 2 (with Prof. Juliette Blevins) Indo-European and Basque, pt 1 |
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Good episode of the longer book - The Time Traveler's Guide to Elizabethan England
Wasn't a good time to be alive for sure. Failed To Load Title |
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Interesting video on meteorites found by Indians in Arizona.
Meteorites Found at or near Ancient Ruins in Central Arizona |
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Overview of pre-clovis sites in North America.
Clovis First Was Wrong |
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Discussion around the Rimrock Draw rockshelter.
Looks like it pushes back the earliest humans to at least 18K years BP in Oregon. Evidence for 18 ka Human Occupation at Rimrock Draw Rockshelter, Harney County, Oregon |
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Talk from the guy that figured out how to unroll the scrolls virtually.
LIVE! PSW 2496 Unlost – Recovering the Text of Burnt and Carbonized Scrolls |
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Interesting discussion around climate change and human evolution.
The statement that Neanderthal would have gone extinct if Sapiens were just 10% more efficient was interesting. Understanding Human Evolution in the context of past climate change - Axel Timmermann |
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Longer video on the Gravettian Culture
The Gravettian Culture |
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taggaronie.
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Brought back from the beyond to be a half-dead short-bus riding seat warmer in the Dracula factory
"non-degree special student status" **Do not Karen-tinize the Eschaton!!!** |
Paper Linlk: Paper Link
Neolithic farming device in Greece 6,500 BCE, thousands of years earlier than thought |
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BCE? lol
What distinguishes the common era from the time before the common era? It's like having a "holiday party" at Christmas. Shhhhhhh. Don't say it. lol |
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin
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Gift from the LIZARD PEOPLE.
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"The Maximum Effective Range of an excuse is Zero." kugelblitz
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Maybe I'm getting old and confused, but why does a thread whose title began as "The Gravettian Culture" and changed to reference ancient agrarian tools in Europe start out with a youtube video on directed energy weapons?
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Originally Posted By Mike_c130: Maybe I'm getting old and confused, but why does a thread whose title began as "The Gravettian Culture" and changed to reference ancient agrarian tools in Europe start out with a youtube video on directed energy weapons? View Quote I edit the title as I add in a new one. It started with something like "DaGoose's Rando Videos", but it got too long on the title, so I clipped it off. |
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