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Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:31:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StraightShootinGal:
My buddy says:

"79 YO Ray-gun judge. Complete BS ruling. We all know that had 2 citizens conspired and lied to get police to raid a house, and a LEO was killed, the 2 citizens would be facing felony murder charges at minimum."
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Do you make any posts that dont start with "My buddy says"?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:34:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NoImpactNoIdea:



@babayaga22. Put your money where your mouth is and defend your position.
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Originally Posted By BabaYaga22:
That was a bad shoot, officers should be charged



@babayaga22. Put your money where your mouth is and defend your position.



He can’t…..and won’t.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:35:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Wow.  A complete win for common sense.

"there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death."

Now the fine officers that falsified warrants are only in peril of of misdemeanors and may be able to keep protecting and serving at the same high levels of integrity.
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That doesn't make sense no matter how you try and spin it. I don't see the ruling in Pacer.

But it was a warrant for entry so how can it be a warrantless entry?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:35:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

How convenient.
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter.

4)


Has the video of the raid showing the knock and announce been released?


No cameras required or used by Lousiville PD during the raid.


How convenient.



A lot of agencies don’t have body cameras

It’s expensive……and if the politicians don’t want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don’t get them
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:38:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M1Zeppelin:
I love how they constantly refer to her as a Louisville Metro EMT when if I remember right, she was fired for stealing narcotics.
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That part is left out for convenience

She was a shitbag just like her boyfriend

Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:39:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By STRIKE504:

I too am good with no announce no knock raids on the wrong address. Back the blue.
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Originally Posted By firedog51d:
Originally Posted By BabaYaga22:
That was a bad shoot, officers should be charged
That didn't take long.

I too am good with no announce no knock raids on the wrong address. Back the blue.



Except that’s not what happened
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:41:47 PM EDT
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What took them so long to figure out the obvious.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:54:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



That doesn't make sense no matter how you try and spin it. I don't see the ruling in Pacer.

But it was a warrant for entry so how can it be a warrantless entry?
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Wow.  A complete win for common sense.

"there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death."

Now the fine officers that falsified warrants are only in peril of of misdemeanors and may be able to keep protecting and serving at the same high levels of integrity.



That doesn't make sense no matter how you try and spin it. I don't see the ruling in Pacer.

But it was a warrant for entry so how can it be a warrantless entry?

Was it a warrant based on facts or one that included fabricated information?

Is a warrant based on fabricated information actually lawful?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 3:56:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By crwdplsr:



A lot of agencies don’t have body cameras

It’s expensive……and if the politicians don’t want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don’t get them
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter.

4)


Has the video of the raid showing the knock and announce been released?


No cameras required or used by Lousiville PD during the raid.


How convenient.



A lot of agencies don’t have body cameras

It’s expensive……and if the politicians don’t want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don’t get them

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:09:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ClayHollisterTT:


It also brings into question their side of the story. As we all know, cops have been known to twist the story for their benefit.
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Originally Posted By ClayHollisterTT:


It also brings into question their side of the story. As we all know, cops have been known to twist the story for their benefit.



We like to pretend that Kathryn Johnston and the Tuttles were rare exceptions.


Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Did officers falsify information for the warrant?


Originally Posted By Lord_Grey_Boots:
I recall if the lies were removed, the application would still allow the warrant to be granted based on the good info.


But the falsehoods on the sworn affidavit that supports the warrant tend to cause reasonable doubt in everything else that LE team says.
Refer back to the drug squads who murdered Johnston and the Tuttles in their homes. We can't believe anything they said either.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:11:06 PM EDT
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Breonna Taylor caused Breonna Taylor’s death by either being a drug dealing shit, or spending time with drug dealing shits.

Not my people, not my problem.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:16:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


No cameras required or used by Lousiville PD during the raid.

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Very convenient.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:16:25 PM EDT
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Good ruling
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:18:59 PM EDT
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If the officers announced who they were but the people inside the apartment could not see them to verify and the officers kicked in the door, how did the victim and boyfriend know they were cops vs. drug dealers/gangbangers pretending to be cops coming to kill them?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 4:20:31 PM EDT
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Do you make any posts that dont start with "My buddy says"?
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Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR:
Originally Posted By StraightShootinGal:
My buddy says:

"79 YO Ray-gun judge. Complete BS ruling. We all know that had 2 citizens conspired and lied to get police to raid a house, and a LEO was killed, the 2 citizens would be facing felony murder charges at minimum."



Do you make any posts that dont start with "My buddy says"?

That's the only way I recognize her posts anymore without her avatar. Looks like she and her buddy could save up their Doritos and Mt Dew money to split a membership in her name so we could see her avatar again. Who among us wouldn't like to see her honey badger?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 9:30:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.
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excellent point. won’t change most of the tasty boot eaters thought process.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 9:37:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter. One officer did a “suppressing fire” in direction of the shooter and was charged for it.


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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
What are the ramifications for self defense/using deadly force in your home now?

Didn’t  the KY cops go to the wrong house. No-knock warrant.  The boyfriend went into self protection mode, and Brianna was killed?

Am I thinking of a different case?


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter. One officer did a “suppressing fire” in direction of the shooter and was charged for it.




Yup, I wish people would get the truth before believing the media.  There was so much false crap put out by the media and Oprah but unfortunately when the truth gets out it is buried on page 9 in fine print.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 9:41:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FedDC:
Before people comment, they should listen to the podcast from the officer that was shot and returned fire.


The majority of the info that’s out there in the media is completely wrong, including the warrant predication.  He explained how the PD literally lied to the media in order to throw the officers to the wolves and refused to correct themselves when the actual officers proved it was untrue.  

https://www.amazon.com/12-Seconds-Dark-Officers-Firsthand/dp/1956007016
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Excellent book. More people should read it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 9:49:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Was it a warrant based on facts or one that included fabricated information?

Is a warrant based on fabricated information actually lawful?
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That depends which side you listen to.

The media says it was all fake. The prosecutor said it had unsubstantiated information. Fired cop says it was legit.

Now, lets look at a legal argument. If there is fabricated info, you are likely going to have the entire warrant tossed. I say likely because we have seen where warrants had errors due to using a boilerplate template and stated things that were not part of the case or evidence to be searched. Things like bombs, drugs, etc. when the warrant is for a murder suspect.

Was the wrong information an accident or was it intentional? Even with an intentional case, the judge might review the warrant without that information to see if PC still exists.

If you INTENTIONALLY place fraudulent information in a warrant, affidavit, or any declaration, you need to be canned and probably charged too.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 9:53:19 PM EDT
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When do the ghetto riots kick off?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:01:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.
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Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:06:02 PM EDT
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SAY HER NAME!
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:10:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter. One officer did a “suppressing fire” in direction of the shooter and was charged for it.


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Slight clarifications: Taylor's boyfriend fired a single shot that struck one of the officers in the foot. The officer who provided "suppressing fire" did so by doing a mag-dump through a window completely covered by a blind. Some of his shots entered a neighboring apartment.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:15:25 PM EDT
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Anyone remember what the warrant was for in the first place?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:20:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.
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1039 sworn (2022)

2.9 million schmeckles
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:23:12 PM EDT
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Anyone remember what the warrant was for in the first place?
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Suspicion of keeping narcotics and/or drug money in the house, I think.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:29:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Did officers falsify information for the warrant?
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
Originally Posted By BabaYaga22:
That was a bad shoot, officers should be charged
That didn't take long.

Might be Merrick Garland posting in here.  He, unsurprisingly says the officers are guilty, but he’s also never meet a hood rat he thought committed a crime, either.  Fuck Garland, fuck whoever told Brandon to nominate that piece of shit and fuck Johnson for letting him get away with contempt of Congress.

Did officers falsify information for the warrant?



If you go listen to the interview, the answer is grammatical.  


The warrant claimed that a postal inspector had verified packages being delivered.  

This was SOP for this unit as they had an officer on a task force who had a postal inspector who could check.  

That relationship had gone sideways due to red tape on verification of who lived where. (This happens a lot at bureaucrat level)

So, the officers had phoned a friend who still had access and indirectly verified that the suspect was receiving mail there…but they had to pass word through several people and it wasn’t in writing like it had been due to the previous red tape.

When a totally different officer wrote the actual warrant, he used the SOP language that a postal inspector had verified because he was told postal verified.  In reality, it was not done the old way…but was done.  


This was most of what lead to the false statements charge.  

So….postal did verify…but not the way it was listed in the warrant.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:30:45 PM EDT
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Why?
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter.

4)


Has the video of the raid showing the knock and announce been released?


No cameras required or used by Lousiville PD during the raid.


Why?



At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone.  

That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:38:36 PM EDT
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This is my understanding as well.  

Good shoot.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:58:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FedDC:



If you go listen to the interview, the answer is grammatical.  


The warrant claimed that a postal inspector had verified packages being delivered.  

This was SOP for this unit as they had an officer on a task force who had a postal inspector who could check.  

That relationship had gone sideways due to red tape on verification of who lived where. (This happens a lot at bureaucrat level)

So, the officers had phoned a friend who still had access and indirectly verified that the suspect was receiving mail there…but they had to pass word through several people and it wasn’t in writing like it had been due to the previous red tape.

When a totally different officer wrote the actual warrant, he used the SOP language that a postal inspector had verified because he was told postal verified.  In reality, it was not done the old way…but was done.  


This was most of what lead to the false statements charge.  

So….postal did verify…but not the way it was listed in the warrant.
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Long winded way of saying they lied.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from a guy who knows a kid who's going with the girl who saw him pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I think it's serious.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:12:47 PM EDT
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So….postal did verify…but not the way it was listed in the warrant.
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Okay.  So the officer(s) made up facts that didn't happen and listed them in the warrant.

Do you believe that constitutes fabricating evidence?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:15:16 PM EDT
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That doesn't make sense no matter how you try and spin it. I don't see the ruling in Pacer.

But it was a warrant for entry so how can it be a warrantless entry?
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Wow.  A complete win for common sense.

"there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death."

Now the fine officers that falsified warrants are only in peril of of misdemeanors and may be able to keep protecting and serving at the same high levels of integrity.



That doesn't make sense no matter how you try and spin it. I don't see the ruling in Pacer.

But it was a warrant for entry so how can it be a warrantless entry?

Is there really a warrant if you lie in the application?
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At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone.  

That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear.
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Attachment Attached File


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They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years.  
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:17:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



That depends which side you listen to.

The media says it was all fake. The prosecutor said it had unsubstantiated information. Fired cop says it was legit.

Now, lets look at a legal argument. If there is fabricated info, you are likely going to have the entire warrant tossed. I say likely because we have seen where warrants had errors due to using a boilerplate template and stated things that were not part of the case or evidence to be searched. Things like bombs, drugs, etc. when the warrant is for a murder suspect.

Was the wrong information an accident or was it intentional? Even with an intentional case, the judge might review the warrant without that information to see if PC still exists.

If you INTENTIONALLY place fraudulent information in a warrant, affidavit, or any declaration, you need to be canned and probably charged too.
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Was it a warrant based on facts or one that included fabricated information?

Is a warrant based on fabricated information actually lawful?



That depends which side you listen to.

The media says it was all fake. The prosecutor said it had unsubstantiated information. Fired cop says it was legit.

Now, lets look at a legal argument. If there is fabricated info, you are likely going to have the entire warrant tossed. I say likely because we have seen where warrants had errors due to using a boilerplate template and stated things that were not part of the case or evidence to be searched. Things like bombs, drugs, etc. when the warrant is for a murder suspect.

Was the wrong information an accident or was it intentional? Even with an intentional case, the judge might review the warrant without that information to see if PC still exists.

If you INTENTIONALLY place fraudulent information in a warrant, affidavit, or any declaration, you need to be canned and probably charged too.

And the warrant tossed? Making it a warrantless entry.
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Originally Posted By UV18:



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.

How much does a helicopter cost?
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:21:29 PM EDT
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1039 sworn (2022)

2.9 million schmeckles
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Originally Posted By UV18:



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.
1039 sworn (2022)

2.9 million schmeckles

And a budget of $240M.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:34:00 PM EDT
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I believe the crew serving the warrant wouldn’t know, unless they also had a copy of the affidavit, and if the cop who lied made it easier to know that by highlighting the lies in yellow, or red. But seriously,  thought I read where they had several warrants being served at the same time, so other than a briefing the cops there at that particulate location, may have little knowledge of the merits of the investigation, only that a judge found there was cause to issue a search warrant
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:40:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:


This right here folks is the result of media propaganda. Even guys on this site believe this.

It has been admitted this was a fake news campaign for BLM & false claims by media.

1) The “No knock” warrant had been announced at the door as police and they knocked. A neighbor lied and said they didn’t, then admitted he heard them announce themselves later.

2) The address was correct, her former boyfriend was the target and had been dealing drugs with evidence on his phone when recovered. A man was also found murdered in a car rented by Breona Taylor. Hoover had given taylor’s address as his in the past.

3) First shots were fired and struck officers with Taylor and her Boyfriend together in the hallway. Officers returned fire in the direction of the shooter/perceived shooter.

4)


Has the video of the raid showing the knock and announce been released?


No cameras required or used by Lousiville PD during the raid.


How convenient.



A lot of agencies don’t have body cameras

It’s expensive……and if the politicians don’t want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don’t get them

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.


Politicians control the purse strings
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:46:44 PM EDT
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Fuck Louseyville. Fuck LMPD, a gang of crooks & thugs.

LMPD officer just arrested for stealing $4k from a person in custody. LMPD beats up golfer.

LMPD not poor. Have fancy Hughes Magnum PI helicopter and dedicated DoT Mustangs which all they do is harrass truck drivers.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:48:36 PM EDT
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they must steal grammar as well
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Politicians control the purse strings
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Link Posted: 8/25/2024 12:53:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Okay.  So the officer(s) made up facts that didn't happen and listed them in the warrant.

Do you believe that constitutes fabricating evidence?
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By FedDC:
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So….postal did verify…but not the way it was listed in the warrant.

Okay.  So the officer(s) made up facts that didn't happen and listed them in the warrant.

Do you believe that constitutes fabricating evidence?



No, that’s incorrect.

The officers did contact the post office and did confirm that the suspect received mail there.  

They didn’t do it via the normal channels.  

No, that’s not fabricated evidence.  It’s incorrect description of their method.  

Additionally, the postal info wasn’t the basis for the warrant.  It was supplemental.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 12:54:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:


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They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years.  
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By FedDC:
At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone.  

That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear.


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They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years.  



It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 12:56:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Imzadi:

How much does a helicopter cost?
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.

How much does a helicopter cost?


Nothing…they are grant money or free from DoD.  They get federal or state funding.  

Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:03:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By crwdplsr:



A lot of agencies don't have body cameras

It's expensive  and if the politicians don't want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don't get them
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Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:04:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By crwdplsr:



A lot of agencies don't have body cameras

It's expensive  and if the politicians don't want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don't get them
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LMPD has body cameras.

Next excuse please.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:32:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By anesvick:
She was a shitbag, and hung out with other shitbags.  This is known.

Issue I always had was the no cameras thing, which LMPD needs to fix, and the scared fuck doing a mag dump into an occupied structure.

If they had worn cameras, the issue would have been resolved a long time ago and wouldn't have given the BLM crew an excuse to riot.
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Agreed, lack of cameras (and the lack of a requirement for cameras) is a huge problem.  Given today's litigious environment, I cannot imagine why, short of intentional incompetence, any department would not require cameras for all interactions.  That said, hasn't BLM already complained that cameras disproving their claims of racial targeting by definitively showing showing bad behavior are racist?
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 8:52:08 AM EDT
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Next you’re gonna tell me George Floyd was a career criminal and drug addict who overdosed.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 8:54:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
Didn't the city already pay out millions to the boyfriend? How can they pay him and say it was his fault?
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Trying to keep “the community” from rioting and burning their city down.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:54:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FedDC:


Nothing…they are grant money or free from DoD.  They get federal or state funding.  

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Originally Posted By FedDC:
Originally Posted By Imzadi:
Originally Posted By UV18:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

A department that runs an air unit, bomb squad, canine unit, dignitary protection team, mounted patrol, river patrol, special response team, and SWAT team can't afford cameras for high risk warrants.  Got it.



Contracts are typically 2k a year for the basic cam, then you add accessories, data storage, and access licensing. Should be about 2800 per unit. Add car or second cam and it is more.

I was ran through their budget and page to see how many employees they have.

How much does a helicopter cost?


Nothing…they are grant money or free from DoD.  They get federal or state funding.  


And that pays for Jet A, aircrew, and an A&P?
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