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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: No, that’s incorrect. The officers did contact the post office and did confirm that the suspect received mail there. They didn’t do it via the normal channels. No, that’s not fabricated evidence. It’s incorrect description of their method. Additionally, the postal info wasn’t the basis for the warrant. It was supplemental. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: ... So….postal did verify…but not the way it was listed in the warrant. Okay. So the officer(s) made up facts that didn't happen and listed them in the warrant. Do you believe that constitutes fabricating evidence? No, that’s incorrect. The officers did contact the post office and did confirm that the suspect received mail there. They didn’t do it via the normal channels. No, that’s not fabricated evidence. It’s incorrect description of their method. Additionally, the postal info wasn’t the basis for the warrant. It was supplemental. Swearing to things that didn’t actually happen isn’t fabricating evidence on a warrant. Got it. The officers should have had you as a lawyer, then they may not have plead guilty to doing that already. Once again, “good cops” are defending criminals who have already been fount guilty. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:00:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone. That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/louisville_metro_police_jpg-3303954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-3303957.JPG They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years.  It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:12:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FoxValleyTacDriver]
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"there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death."
Lol. Fuck no knock warrants. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Lol. Fuck no knock warrants. And their functional equivalents, the knock then break in before the person can be expected to process what is happening. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:48:14 AM EDT
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Best I can tell, she was kind of sketchy herself and enjoyed hanging around criminals and got herself killed via those bad decisions.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:49:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Before people comment, they should listen to the podcast from the officer that was shot and returned fire. The majority of the info that’s out there in the media is completely wrong, including the warrant predication. He explained how the PD literally lied to the media in order to throw the officers to the wolves and refused to correct themselves when the actual officers proved it was untrue. https://www.amazon.com/12-Seconds-Dark-Officers-Firsthand/dp/1956007016 My only comment is it's sad that shitty/inaccurate/irresponsible media coverage and sensationalism has turned this into something where it's hard to know exactly what happened for sure. And it's not just the media to blame here, either. The whole thing turned into a fucking circus. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:50:02 AM EDT
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Protecting the blue line.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:51:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Best I can tell, she was kind of sketchy herself and enjoyed hanging around criminals and got herself killed via those bad decisions. OK, cool. Sketchy gets capital punishment. Death penalty for sketchy. The good ole blue judge dread. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 11:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: OK, cool. Sketchy gets capital punishment. Death penalty for sketchy. The good ole blue judge dread. LOL Actions have consequences and sometimes those consequences are severe. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone. That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/louisville_metro_police_jpg-3303954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-3303957.JPG They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years. It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area…it’s common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn’t afford them. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: And their functional equivalents, the knock then break in before the person can be expected to process what is happening. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Lol. Fuck no knock warrants. And their functional equivalents, the knock then break in before the person can be expected to process what is happening. Ironically, a no knock service would have likely saved her. By knocking and waiting, they gave the shooter about a minute to arm up and get into a defensive position in the hallway where he shot the officer who made entry. The officer was hit in the femoral artery. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:07:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FoxValleyTacDriver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: LOL Actions have consequences and sometimes those consequences are severe. There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: OK, cool. Sketchy gets capital punishment. Death penalty for sketchy. The good ole blue judge dread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Best I can tell, she was kind of sketchy herself and enjoyed hanging around criminals and got herself killed via those bad decisions. OK, cool. Sketchy gets capital punishment. Death penalty for sketchy. The good ole blue judge dread. Again, if you look into the actual events, her boyfriend used her as a human shield and then actively prevented her from receiving medical care for about half an hour. He shot an officer, then barricaded and called his mom…destroyed evidence…made BS calls to cover up his actions…all while his girl was bleeding on the floor. He chose to let her die while destroying and fabricating evidence. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. this wasnt a no knock and was at the correct address |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Ironically, a no knock service would have likely saved her. By knocking and waiting, they gave the shooter about a minute to arm up and get into a defensive position in the hallway where he shot the officer who made entry. The officer was hit in the femoral artery. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Lol. Fuck no knock warrants. And their functional equivalents, the knock then break in before the person can be expected to process what is happening. Ironically, a no knock service would have likely saved her. By knocking and waiting, they gave the shooter about a minute to arm up and get into a defensive position in the hallway where he shot the officer who made entry. The officer was hit in the femoral artery. That's an opinion. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCPatrolAR: this wasnt a no knock and was at the correct address How long was it between the knock and the breach? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:27:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area it's common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn't afford them. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: My department, a state agency, did not have Body Worn Cameras until 2021. Many agencies did not. It is much more SOP now, but just an FYI. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Originally Posted By FedDC: Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area it's common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn't afford them. Any agency that didn't at least have some video being taken of the execution of high risk warrant service since the 90s has done so because they didn't want video taken of them. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. I am calling your BS. According to the FBI, about 80,000 no-knock warrants are served in the US every year. Since 1970, there have been 12 served on the wrong house, about 1 every 3-5 years. So I call your bullshit on 3 "fresh in your memory". I will patiently await your response. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:33:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area…it’s common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn’t afford them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone. That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/louisville_metro_police_jpg-3303954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-3303957.JPG They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years. It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area…it’s common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn’t afford them. The department that pays twice the prevailing wage is low pay? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:35:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: I am calling your BS. According to the FBI, about 80,000 no-knock warrants are served in the US every year. Since 1970, there have been 12 served on the wrong house, about 1 every 3-5 years. So I call your bullshit on 3 "fresh in your memory". I will patiently await your response. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. I am calling your BS. According to the FBI, about 80,000 no-knock warrants are served in the US every year. Since 1970, there have been 12 served on the wrong house, about 1 every 3-5 years. So I call your bullshit on 3 "fresh in your memory". I will patiently await your response. Reference to your stats? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Any agency that didn't at least have some video being taken of the execution of high risk warrant service since the 90s has done so because they didn't want video taken of them. Yeah, ok. BWCs did not exist in the United States until 2007. So if you wanted to bring your Digital High 8 camera and strap it to your helmet, sure. So many people in here don't have a fucking clue, it is funny. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:37:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: How long was it between the knock and the breach? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR: this wasnt a no knock and was at the correct address How long was it between the knock and the breach? Let’s check the video. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:39:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:40:46 PM EDT
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Good shoot, boyfriend was a shitbag and caused her death. Judge ruled correctly in this instance.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kunta_Kinte: Good shoot, boyfriend was a shitbag and caused her death. Judge ruled correctly in this instance. Thank God for women who make bad decisions. Please don't execute all of them. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:42:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Yeah, ok. BWCs did not exist in the United States until 2007. So if you wanted to bring your Digital High 8 camera and strap it to your helmet, sure. So many people in here don't have a fucking clue, it is funny. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Any agency that didn't at least have some video being taken of the execution of high risk warrant service since the 90s has done so because they didn't want video taken of them. Yeah, ok. BWCs did not exist in the United States until 2007. So if you wanted to bring your Digital High 8 camera and strap it to your helmet, sure. So many people in here don't have a fucking clue, it is funny. Did I say as a body worn camera? What in the words I wrote made you make that logical leap? Or are you just making stuff up? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:43:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Reference to your stats? Here is a liberal rag that has the # of warrants. Here is another one. This one says 70k. Another One. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:44:47 PM EDT
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The leaked (intelligence) surveillance report was very enlightening as to urban surveillance operations.
This was the info that led to the door knocking. 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:44:59 PM EDT
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Whether they did wrong or not, outside of possibly certain undercover work a camera on a cop should be mandatory for an arrest of any kind.
Also, qualified immunity needs to end. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:46:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Here is a liberal rag that has the # of warrants. Here is another one. This one says 70k. Another One. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aztrooper: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Reference to your stats? Here is a liberal rag that has the # of warrants. Here is another one. This one says 70k. Another One. Where is the primary source from the FBI? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anesvick: She was a shitbag, and hung out with other shitbags. This is known. Issue I always had was the no cameras thing, which LMPD needs to fix, and the scared fuck doing a mag dump into an occupied structure. If they had worn cameras, the issue would have been resolved a long time ago and wouldn't have given the BLM crew an excuse to riot. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:26:51 PM EDT
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Boyfriend who was in the apartment was not on the warrant. Also had a legal pistol so no previous arrest issues.
This guy had 0 reason to think it was police kicking in his door. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: The department that pays twice the prevailing wage is low pay? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone. That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/louisville_metro_police_jpg-3303954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-3303957.JPG They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years. It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area…it’s common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn’t afford them. The department that pays twice the prevailing wage is low pay? Twice the prevailing wage…in the ghetto…is still crap. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anesvick: LMPD has body cameras. Next excuse please. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anesvick: Originally Posted By crwdplsr: A lot of agencies don't have body cameras It's expensive and if the politicians don't want to spend the money on them, then the LEOs don't get them Next excuse please. Now they do. And they should: the things end up stopping more lawsuits against the department than they facilitate. But back then, they didn't. I need to read the opinion, and see how tailored the holding is to these facts, or whether it's applicable much more broadly. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Danted: Boyfriend who was in the apartment was not on the warrant. Also had a legal pistol so no previous arrest issues. This guy had 0 reason to think it was police kicking in his door. Aside from the police in overt armor that says police…and them identifying themselves as Police…and there being a marked Police car out front with a clearly uniformed officer… |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:04:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. That wasn’t the scenario here. They didn’t have the wrong house. So, with regards to this subject, your argument is null. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Aside from the police in overt armor that says police…and them identifying themselves as Police…and there being a marked Police car out front with a clearly uniformed officer… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By Danted: Boyfriend who was in the apartment was not on the warrant. Also had a legal pistol so no previous arrest issues. This guy had 0 reason to think it was police kicking in his door. Aside from the police in overt armor that says police…and them identifying themselves as Police…and there being a marked Police car out front with a clearly uniformed officer… Let's go to the video and see if he had time to observe and process all of that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Let's go to the video and see if he had time to observe and process all of that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By Danted: Boyfriend who was in the apartment was not on the warrant. Also had a legal pistol so no previous arrest issues. This guy had 0 reason to think it was police kicking in his door. Aside from the police in overt armor that says police…and them identifying themselves as Police…and there being a marked Police car out front with a clearly uniformed officer… Let's go to the video and see if he had time to observe and process all of that. Assuming you are being facetious. There is no video of the warrant service as the officers were not issued body cameras or similar. The only real video is from the SWAT element that responds later and a few car cameras from responding units that were trying to evac the wounded officer. The med response was also a fiasco but nobody cares. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: That wasn’t the scenario here. They didn’t have the wrong house. So, with regards to this subject, your argument is null. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: There's innocent people that have ended up dead because of no knocks at the wrong house.. Imagine this. It's 3am. You hear your door get kicked in. What will you do it? I'd bet most people here would grab a gun. If it's your local swat team that will get you killed and you'll be cooling off at the morgue. It will be justified because you had a firearm in your hand, even though they had the wrong residence and you had no idea it was the police. That scenario has happened several times. I can give you 3 occasions that are fresh in my memory where a no knock occurred at the wrong house and this has happened. No knocks are fucking retarded. It is a far less safe option for all parties involved. Including the cops. That wasn’t the scenario here. They didn’t have the wrong house. So, with regards to this subject, your argument is null. Not only that, but the jail phone calls indicated that the information in the warrant was correct when the suspect said to send people to her house and get his stuff after the police leave. In the book, the officer talks about how badly the department handled the post shooting investigation. For example- they never executed the original warrant or searched the residence for drugs or money. That’s super incompetent. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BabaYaga22: That was a bad shoot, officers should be charged Maybe. But shouldn’t the judge that authorized the no knock as well as the superiors who pushed for it? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:32:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coffee2code: Agreed, lack of cameras (and the lack of a requirement for cameras) is a huge problem. Given today's litigious environment, I cannot imagine why, short of intentional incompetence, any department would not require cameras for all interactions. That said, hasn't BLM already complained that cameras disproving their claims of racial targeting by definitively showing showing bad behavior are racist? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coffee2code: Originally Posted By anesvick: She was a shitbag, and hung out with other shitbags. This is known. Issue I always had was the no cameras thing, which LMPD needs to fix, and the scared fuck doing a mag dump into an occupied structure. If they had worn cameras, the issue would have been resolved a long time ago and wouldn't have given the BLM crew an excuse to riot. Agreed, lack of cameras (and the lack of a requirement for cameras) is a huge problem. Given today's litigious environment, I cannot imagine why, short of intentional incompetence, any department would not require cameras for all interactions. That said, hasn't BLM already complained that cameras disproving their claims of racial targeting by definitively showing showing bad behavior are racist? We just got BWC within the last 2 years because the city council who controls the purse strings wouldn't fund them. We spent seizure money to get enough to equip patrol and traffic, but no one else in a specialized assignment has one. We aren't a small agency either. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:48:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Hands up don’t shoot!
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:59:37 PM EDT
[#44]
The brother of a multiple-arrested drug dealing buddy of her boyfriend turned up dead in the trunk of her car. Coulda happened to anybody.
https://louisville-police.org/751/Breonna-Taylor-Investigation https://louisville-police.org/DocumentCenter/View/1801/PIU-20-019-Breonna-Taylor-Summary |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:47:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SmilingBandit]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Twice the prevailing wage…in the ghetto…is still crap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By FedDC: At the time, they did not have enough to issue them to everyone. That PD is poor…low pay, bad gear. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/louisville_metro_police_jpg-3303954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-3303957.JPG They make 46% more than the city's median income upon graduating the academy and 84% more than the median income after two years. It’s a giant ghetto…median income is welfare rat. I honor you ability to try defiending your position in the face of contrary facts. Go read the book or listen to one of the podcasts that the officer did. The dept is low pay, low income area…it’s common in the south. The officers involved all admitted they wish they had body cams but the department couldn’t afford them. The department that pays twice the prevailing wage is low pay? Twice the prevailing wage…in the ghetto…is still crap. Their second year pay (before overtime or special pay) puts them at 71st percentile nationwide and about 80th percentile for Kentucky. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:49:28 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Their second year pay (before overtime or special pay) puts them at 71st percentile nationwide. You’re really hung up on this. They didn’t have BWCs for whatever reason. So what? Plenty of other agencies didn’t until recently, either. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:50:35 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Assuming you are being facetious. There is no video of the warrant service as the officers were not issued body cameras or similar. The only real video is from the SWAT element that responds later and a few car cameras from responding units that were trying to evac the wounded officer. The med response was also a fiasco but nobody cares. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By FedDC: Originally Posted By Danted: Boyfriend who was in the apartment was not on the warrant. Also had a legal pistol so no previous arrest issues. This guy had 0 reason to think it was police kicking in his door. Aside from the police in overt armor that says police…and them identifying themselves as Police…and there being a marked Police car out front with a clearly uniformed officer… Let's go to the video and see if he had time to observe and process all of that. Assuming you are being facetious. There is no video of the warrant service as the officers were not issued body cameras or similar. The only real video is from the SWAT element that responds later and a few car cameras from responding units that were trying to evac the wounded officer. The med response was also a fiasco but nobody cares. Since there is no objective evidence of what they were wearing, what they said, and the timelines; why are you so confident in your statements other than tribilism? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: You’re really hung up on this. They didn’t have BWCs for whatever reason. So what? Plenty of other agencies didn’t until recently, either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Their second year pay (before overtime or special pay) puts them at 71st percentile nationwide. You’re really hung up on this. They didn’t have BWCs for whatever reason. So what? Plenty of other agencies didn’t until recently, either. I'm hung up on wanting and using objective facts? I'm okay with that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:55:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BabaYaga22: That was a bad shoot, officers should be charged There is a difference between a bad shoot and a bad situation, until one is on the receiving end of gunfire yone can't predict how they will react |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:55:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Never_A_Wick]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I'm hung up on wanting and using objective facts? I'm okay with that. An objective fact is not assertion that fuckery was afoot because there’s no video evidence. I don’t see a whole lot of objectivity overall in your posts on this subject. All we have to do is look at your first, emotional post in the thread to figure that out. |
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