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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:08:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JVD: I would whip my hangdown out in court and windmill piss. Wait, I'm trying to picture this. Is it as glorious as I think? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:08:16 AM EDT
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That’s shitty. But US does not hold the moral high ground here - refer Kim Dot Com and Assange.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:15:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Could they still arrest him if he just said fuck it, and bought the UK?
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:16:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fives]
[#4]
If that were ever to happen (which it won’t but just for shiz and giggles) and Trump won, I’m sure he would send SF to extract him, F the globalist agenda
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JPN
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:17:26 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 999monkeys: That’s shitty. But US does not hold the moral high ground here - refer Kim Dot Com and Assange. Telegram is the only way to get the real news coming out of Russia and Ukraine. That news is verboten, because it doesn't fit the narrative. X might be next. My friends in Europe and Australia think everything is rosy in Ukraine, they are fed good news and positive vibes. We are on the path of control. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:20:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By greyninja:  Telegram CEO Pavel Durov is reportedly in custody after being arrested near Paris Saturday evening as he was departing his private jet. The billionaire was apprehended on a warrant related to a preliminary investigation, writes Reuters. French authorities believe that the platform’s lack of moderation has “allowed criminal activity to go on undeterred on the messaging app.” https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/24/24227672/telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-ceo From that quote, this is more about criminal activity, not censoring mean posts. If any of you have been following the Ukraine War threads, you'll have seen discussion of Russians hiring spies and saboteurs over Telegram; it seems to be a preferred Russian communications app for their troops (who were using Baofeng unencrypted radios early in the 2022 invasion, and getting blown up thanks to that). Criminals, scammers, fraud rings, whatever, can just as easily use email for a lot of that, of course, but still. The arrest, from the only information OP gave, is about crime, not about mean tweets. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:22:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Telegram is the only way to get the real news coming out of Russia and Ukraine. That news is verboten, because it doesn't fit the narrative. X might be next. My friends in Europe and Australia think everything is rosy in Ukraine, they are fed good news and positive vibes. We are on the path of control. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By 999monkeys: That’s shitty. But US does not hold the moral high ground here - refer Kim Dot Com and Assange. Telegram is the only way to get the real news coming out of Russia and Ukraine. That news is verboten, because it doesn't fit the narrative. X might be next. My friends in Europe and Australia think everything is rosy in Ukraine, they are fed good news and positive vibes. We are on the path of control. Oh, I don’t think any of it should be censored. But I notice a certain contingent uses news like this to pretend like they are somehow superior to UK and French “subjects”. Reality is, that sense of superiority is illusory and their government is doing the exact same shitty authoritarian things. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:27:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flushdraw: Have you been here? It's fucking hot! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flushdraw: Originally Posted By RikWriter: If I were Musk, I wouldn't leave Texas. Have you been here? It's fucking hot! All the time. It never stops. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:29:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Creatyre]
[#9]
Just start the fucking shooting already. I'm so tired of waiting. My kids are getting older and so am i, let's do this dance before they have to.
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JPN
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:48:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 999monkeys: Oh, I don’t think any of it should be censored. But I notice a certain contingent uses news like this to pretend like they are somehow superior to UK and French “subjects”. Reality is, that sense of superiority is illusory and their government is doing the exact same shitty authoritarian things. Everyone is almost bankrupt. On top of that they are fighting a nuclear state, and they are losing. And that state supplies them with energy. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:58:30 AM EDT
[#11]
We have reached the fucked up point where bailing out these idiots out of 2 world wars was actually a really bad idea.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:21:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Hard to fight the Ministry of Truth.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:39:29 AM EDT
[#13]
Telegram is 99% crime. No one has ever said the same about Twitter.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:40:59 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: That would be phenomenal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By billclo: Maybe Musk ought to cut off France and the UK for what they are up to? IP address is in those countries, no Twitter for you. It would be better to replace the actual feed with a picture of a sheep rather than block entirely... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: Just cut off all offical UK Government accounts. No more Grey badge accounts or personal accounts for government agents. That includes Red Coats. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: Originally Posted By FooBarBaz: Originally Posted By billclo: Maybe Musk ought to cut off France and the UK for what they are up to? IP address is in those countries, no Twitter for you. The UK government would probably be quite happy if that were to happen. Tyrants dont like free speech. No more Grey badge accounts or personal accounts for government agents. That includes Red Coats. Better solution than cutting off entirely, for the reason stated...though i still stand by my suggestion to replace the feed with a picture of sheep... |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:45:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: Just cut off all offical UK Government accounts. No more Grey badge accounts or personal accounts for government agents. That includes Red Coats. It would be awesome if Musk outed the UK Gov shills with a special icon or something. It is pervasive. The wiki page for "dedovshchina" for instance was being edited by IPs from the UK Cabinet Office |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:57:22 AM EDT
[#17]
Lol JFC the disconnect from reality.
Musk is shit-scared the EU is going to block Twitter, he's not about to block the EU from Twitter. Twitter is theoretically still a money-making concern. Revenue is down by over 80% since he bought it. Think he can afford to lose a market of 500 million of the richest consumers in the world? Telegram is rife with CSAM and human trafficking and scams. It's the preferred method of comms for ISIS and Russian intelligence operations in Europe. Pavel is going to give up the keys. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already agreed to it and this is a cover story. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:01:02 AM EDT
[#18]
Seems like "1984" is alive and very active today. With censorship and scrubbing information.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:08:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Lol JFC the disconnect from reality. Musk is shit-scared the EU is going to block Twitter, he's not about to block the EU from Twitter. Twitter is theoretically still a money-making concern. Revenue is down by over 80% since he bought it. Think he can afford to lose a market of 500 million of the richest consumers in the world? Telegram is rife with CSAM and human trafficking and scams. It's the preferred method of comms for ISIS and Russian intelligence operations in Europe. Pavel is going to give up the keys. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already agreed to it and this is a cover story. The EU has lost a lot of credibility domestically in Europe over the last 5-6 years. Entire political campaigns are waged on it (look at the PM of Italy right now) and countries are openly speaking of leaving it, and it's possible successor. Brussels is on thin ice and they know it. They aren't popular at the moment and struggling to hang on to what little credibility they have. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:11:23 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: No X or Starlink for them? I'd broadcast V for Vendetta stuff in the UK just to piss them off |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:23:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rebel31]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: From that quote, this is more about criminal activity, not censoring mean posts. If any of you have been following the Ukraine War threads, you'll have seen discussion of Russians hiring spies and saboteurs over Telegram; it seems to be a preferred Russian communications app for their troops (who were using Baofeng unencrypted radios early in the 2022 invasion, and getting blown up thanks to that). Criminals, scammers, fraud rings, whatever, can just as easily use email for a lot of that, of course, but still. The arrest, from the only information OP gave, is about crime, not about mean tweets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: Originally Posted By greyninja: Telegram CEO Pavel Durov is reportedly in custody after being arrested near Paris Saturday evening as he was departing his private jet. The billionaire was apprehended on a warrant related to a preliminary investigation, writes Reuters. French authorities believe that the platform's lack of moderation has "allowed criminal activity to go on undeterred on the messaging app." https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/24/24227672/telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-ceo From that quote, this is more about criminal activity, not censoring mean posts. If any of you have been following the Ukraine War threads, you'll have seen discussion of Russians hiring spies and saboteurs over Telegram; it seems to be a preferred Russian communications app for their troops (who were using Baofeng unencrypted radios early in the 2022 invasion, and getting blown up thanks to that). Criminals, scammers, fraud rings, whatever, can just as easily use email for a lot of that, of course, but still. The arrest, from the only information OP gave, is about crime, not about mean tweets. Please. Criminals use anything they can including other platforms like FB/IG and Google but you won't see them locked up because they bend the knee to these European socialist dictators. One of the main ways Indian scammers get people is through Google AdSense. They are VERY savvy at Google SEO and will get their scam websites at the top of searches so people think the top link that shows up is the legit website. It's been a problem for years and Google nor govt's give a fuck. The ONLY way to censor these apps is to run everything through centralized servers with filtering of messages and the second you do that these corrupt EU governments will come in demanding they censor right wing speech, speech against illegals, speech against government policy. They use pedos and Russians to get their nose under the tent and then go full on tyranny to where you can't communicate with people. WTF is this? CCP China? Our own government has been using the SAME excuses for a long time now trying to get backdoors into encryption protocols. Do you really trust the FBI with backdoor access to every online service? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:24:36 AM EDT
[#22]
Ok no more tesla cars to these countries, and no more rides on space x...
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:40:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: you've got a bad American CNN take on European domestic politics at the moment The EU has lost a lot of credibility domestically in Europe over the last 5-6 years. Entire political campaigns are waged on it (look at the PM of Italy right now) and countries are openly speaking of leaving it, and it's possible successor. Brussels is on thin ice and they know it. They aren't popular at the moment and struggling to hang on to what little credibility they have. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: Originally Posted By METT-T: Lol JFC the disconnect from reality. Musk is shit-scared the EU is going to block Twitter, he's not about to block the EU from Twitter. Twitter is theoretically still a money-making concern. Revenue is down by over 80% since he bought it. Think he can afford to lose a market of 500 million of the richest consumers in the world? Telegram is rife with CSAM and human trafficking and scams. It's the preferred method of comms for ISIS and Russian intelligence operations in Europe. Pavel is going to give up the keys. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already agreed to it and this is a cover story. The EU has lost a lot of credibility domestically in Europe over the last 5-6 years. Entire political campaigns are waged on it (look at the PM of Italy right now) and countries are openly speaking of leaving it, and it's possible successor. Brussels is on thin ice and they know it. They aren't popular at the moment and struggling to hang on to what little credibility they have. Meloni immediately moderated and tacked towards the EU on being elected. Macron just crushed the French anti-EU right. 60% of UK voters now say Brexit was a mistake. You have a twitter/RT-informed take on European domestic politics at the moment. Europeans hate the immigration policies of Merkel and the left and the European Parliament is trending right as a response. It's not going away, and the data laws aren't going to change. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:04:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:07:41 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low-Cap: Nope. Keep twitter going in those countries, but modify the algorithm to censor only leftist globalist content. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low-Cap: Originally Posted By billclo: Maybe Musk ought to cut off France and the UK for what they are up to? IP address is in those countries, no Twitter for you. Nope. Keep twitter going in those countries, but modify the algorithm to censor only leftist globalist content. That would be nice |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:10:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:11:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadelk: Musk should invent a way to broadcast a signal that can't be disrupted. Heads would explode. Radio Free Europe, Part Deux |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:14:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Varmint-Hunter: Trump gets elected. Trump gives Musk a diplomatic position: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52158/1000023870-3303927.jpg Brilliant! |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:14:24 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Originally Posted By deadelk: Musk should invent a way to broadcast a signal that can't be disrupted. Heads would explode. Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Radio Free of today transported back to 1968 would be supporting the commies |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:16:27 AM EDT
[#30]
No they wont.
He’s untouchable due to spacex |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:24:01 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys: No they wont. He's untouchable due to spacex Until they confiscate operations and declare it a national program 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:27:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Radio Free of today transported back to 1968 would be supporting the commies You misunderstand (probably because I made my point poorly) I’m suggesting that if Musk were to use Starlink and Twitter as the means to broadcast free speech in modern Europe, it would be the modern equivalent of RFE/RL to counter the EU tyrants. Hence, Radio Free Europe, Part Deux |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:27:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: Fucking lines are being drawn This whole planet needs to go to war with communism 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:31:06 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: You misunderstand (probably because I made my point poorly) I’m suggesting that if Musk were to use Starlink and Twitter as the means to broadcast free speech in modern Europe, it would be the modern equivalent of RFE/RL to counter the EU tyrants. Hence, Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Originally Posted By Rebel31: Radio Free of today transported back to 1968 would be supporting the commies You misunderstand (probably because I made my point poorly) I’m suggesting that if Musk were to use Starlink and Twitter as the means to broadcast free speech in modern Europe, it would be the modern equivalent of RFE/RL to counter the EU tyrants. Hence, Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Many countries in Europe are NOT the same as tyrannical France and closet communist Great Britain. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:34:48 AM EDT
[#35]
The same establishment wrecking all of Western Civilization. They will do what the U.S. cannot do (yet)--arrest people for allowing free speech. It really is amazing that most of the world seemed to be against tyrannical communist governments sixteen years ago. Mass psychosis induced by a corrupt media.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:36:48 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Just start the fucking shooting already. I'm so tired of waiting. My kids are getting older and so am i, let's do this dance before they have to. You go right on ahead. But make sure you post 97 vague "act accordingly" comments in GD first so that everybody knows that you're serious. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:39:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Until they confiscate operations and declare it a national program Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: No they wont. He's untouchable due to spacex Until they confiscate operations and declare it a national program Recent history shows that doesn’t work. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:45:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: You misunderstand (probably because I made my point poorly) I'm suggesting that if Musk were to use Starlink and Twitter as the means to broadcast free speech in modern Europe, it would be the modern equivalent of RFE/RL to counter the EU tyrants. Hence, Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Originally Posted By Rebel31: Radio Free of today transported back to 1968 would be supporting the commies You misunderstand (probably because I made my point poorly) I'm suggesting that if Musk were to use Starlink and Twitter as the means to broadcast free speech in modern Europe, it would be the modern equivalent of RFE/RL to counter the EU tyrants. Hence, Radio Free Europe, Part Deux Got it. There is no way the EU and UK are going to allow censor free internet and they'll criminalize owning a Starlink dish. They are going full CCP type control. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:00:59 AM EDT
[#39]
There are certain things the left could do to over step and trigger the CW2. Putting Trump or Musk in jail could do it.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:07:33 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31:
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:20:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Maybe Musk ought to cut off France and the UK for what they are up to? IP address is in those countries, no Twitter for you. Nooooooooooooooo Hell,no That’s what they want total control of the narrative. X is a Thorne in there side they can no longer lie unchallenged. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:50:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:50:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Telegram is the only way to get the real news coming out of Russia and Ukraine. That news is verboten, because it doesn't fit the narrative. X might be next. My friends in Europe and Australia think everything is rosy in Ukraine, they are fed good news and positive vibes. We are on the path of control. Not true, Telegram is full of Russian propaganda and misinformation like everywhere else. It is just as often found here on GD as well. There are no shortages of fools, willful ignorant, and enablers of evil. You must do your homework. AI doesn’t make it easier either. Then you have those who hate freedom. They don’t care if it is true or false, they just love to hate and puff themselves up. Use discernment and question everything. Don’t forget you are up against professionals with immense resources trained to deceive you, lure you into a false reality, and use you. It is what they live for. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:08:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Just start the fucking shooting already. I'm so tired of waiting. My kids are getting older and so am i, let's do this dance before they have to. I said the same things for decades. Now at 73, it is largely their fight. Teach them and the grandchildren. Make them warriors against evil if they are ever to have a chance in this day and age. The world is far more dangerous than it was for us. The love for freedom is weaker than ever. More and more are preferring to hide than fight. We will lose everything if this continues. People all around us sre willing to sell us out for a few trinkets. The wolves are among us. Where are the guardians? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: It would be awesome if Musk outed the UK Gov shills with a special icon or something. It is pervasive. The wiki page for "dedovshchina" for instance was being edited by IPs from the UK Cabinet Office The government can never be trusted to be the arbiter of truth. It must prove itself. The Democrats crank out more misinformation than Putin. This should not be but it is who they are. If you refuse to do your due diligence, you are part of the problem. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:28:25 AM EDT
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Does it not bother you that Musk is partnered with Pete Alvin, former Minister of Foreign Economic information for Putin? Could it be Musk is violating sanctions against Russia? Could it be that is why they are after him?.
Russian intelligence are masters at manipulation and deception. Never forget that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:45:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flushdraw: Have you been here? It's fucking hot! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flushdraw: Originally Posted By RikWriter: If I were Musk, I wouldn't leave Texas. Have you been here? It's fucking hot! IIRC he's from Florida, he'll tell you about humidity. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Until they confiscate operations and declare it a national program Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: No they wont. He's untouchable due to spacex Until they confiscate operations and declare it a national program Those governments live at the bottom of a gravity well. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:48:21 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Please. Criminals use anything they can including other platforms like FB/IG and Google but you won't see them locked up because they bend the knee to these European socialist dictators. One of the main ways Indian scammers get people is through Google AdSense. They are VERY savvy at Google SEO and will get their scam websites at the top of searches so people think the top link that shows up is the legit website. It's been a problem for years and Google nor govt's give a fuck. The ONLY way to censor these apps is to run everything through centralized servers with filtering of messages and the second you do that these corrupt EU governments will come in demanding they censor right wing speech, speech against illegals, speech against government policy. They use pedos and Russians to get their nose under the tent and then go full on tyranny to where you can't communicate with people. WTF is this? CCP China? Our own government has been using the SAME excuses for a long time now trying to get backdoors into encryption protocols. Do you really trust the FBI with backdoor access to every online service? I don’t disagree criminals on the internet are a huge problem. However, when you allow foreign intelligence to freely operate we have a far more dangerous problem. How do you propose stopping them? Doing nothing is not an option. The have thousands of people, trained and equipped with weapons most people can not see or comprehend. There has to be a counter force with the tools to stop them. Free speech is most precious to us but foreign intelligence is not a free speech issue. They are at war with us. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:53:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By billclo: Maybe Musk ought to cut off France and the UK for what they are up to? IP address is in those countries, no Twitter for you. |
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