Originally Posted By Skywarner:
While everyone’s making fun of the OP, it might be worth taking a look to see what nonfiction book is currently sitting at NUMBER 1 on the NYT Bestsellers listing.

HINT: It’s “IMMINENT: Inside the Pentagon’s Hunt for UFOs” written by Luis Elizondo, the former head of the DoD’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.

Originally Posted By dbrad197:

The arrogance of comments like his astound me. People actually think the book is closed on Physics and no more discoveries will ever be made, even though we learn new shit every year

Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF:

Interesting. So are they using magnets or gravity for propulsion?

Originally Posted By EDL:
Due to the vast distances in the universe and the speed of light as the speed limit, chances are pretty slim aliens are here.  On top of that, the sheer number of galaxies out there, at least mathematically, means there's damn near 100% chance other life is out there, but those same incredible numbers and distances also means the chances of them finding us is mathematically near zero.  

So, if aliens are here, that can really only mean one thing...they put us here.  

Hell, who knows...it's all just mental masturbation at this point.

Originally Posted By bullsi191145:
Took two of the gummies tonight?  


Seriously, if there are aliens capable of FTL and interstellar travel here on earth, our weapons and detection technology will more than likely be almost totally ineffective against them.  So, I would just pick an AK, cuz there ain’t no better battle proven weapon for situations where you are up against a more technologically superior adversary.

Originally Posted By sw25th:
UAP Disclosure.  Are you Ready for it?

There is a certain element in the United States that is pushing hard for full disclosure on the fact that we are cohabitating and sharing planet Earth with a superior form of life.  This form of life, their materials, technology, and biology is so far advanced, we are essentially at their whim.

Thanks to technology and information advances in the past 100 years, our eyes have opened up to our reality, and we are essentially JUST coming out of the proverbial EGG, hatching and seeing our first glimpse outside this eggshell.  

Civilization, Humanity, and our technology has just reached a point where we have the ability to fully open our eyes, to see the reality around us.  It shouldn't come as a surprise that we have just now realized an NHI (non human intelligence) is already on our planet.

The USGOV has spent untold millions on psychological programs designed to convince the general public that aliens, and UFOs, and UAPs are not real.  This campaign has largely been successful, up until now.  The Psy-Op works by creating the impression aliens are anywhere but here, and we are still looking into the stars for them (SETI is a psyop).  It also involves some hollywood (how does the public react), and downplaying (balloons, swamp gas, elon musk), and may involve creating objects that looks similar to the real UAP.   They try to compare known human made objects to these UAP to downplay and dismiss.  

There is a major difference from accepted reality (the one you are in now), and the hard reality which is the one ive described.  The situation could go from completely normal, to SNAFU'd in a near instant.  

It's estimated the USGOV has spent 3 trillion so far, and potentially more.  There are around 30 people who have the full picture and they most likely all work at Area51.  There are research stations across the united states studying the samples.

The Threat:

Advanced superior forms of life, appear passive aggressive, are spying heavily on our military.  They have tested the waters so to speak, to establish their technology to ours.  Reports of firing penetrating lasers into 2x M1 Abrams tanks making a clean hole through them.  Intercepting warheads from missiles in flight.  Firing on italian helicopters.  Shutting off nuclear weapon flights, and turning them on in a different country.  Overflights of PANTEX nuclear storage bunkers, and a coalition base in Iraq that also likely had nukes, by the same jellyfish craft that Attempts to remain stealthy and unnoticed.  They have also counter spied on our intelligence community to learn what we know about them.  

They have fired on us, we have fired on them.  As recently as last year 2 were shot down by an F22 just after the chicom balloon.  

These UAP/NHI are already here in force.  They are probably not friendly, although not actively killing us, we are under total observation.  Their fleet is already here confirmed over Catalina Island by the TicTac video, and three cases where large ships were seen (half a mile wide or bigger).

First real known downed craft was Aurora TX 1897, then Magenta Italy in 1933, then Roswell 1947 was real, then a bunch of others found in the 1950s. Some archeological discoveries have been made like something out of indiana jones.  There was heightened UAP activity in the 1950s, in direct response to our engagement with them including a show of force overflight of Washington DC.

Do not expect the president to offer disclosure.  They have no interest in talking to the public about this.  You will have to appreciate disclosure from other places such as whistleblowers.

I made this post so you are not caught off-guard and that this doesn't come out of left field.  The amount of time to study this material is about 1-4 years to fully understand what is actually occurring.  We are not really capable of digesting the entirety of this whole UAP/NHI topic, which explains how it has managed to lurk behind our backs.

And before you say show me the evidence, there is an enormous overwhelming amount of evidence and correlation.  There is a massive amount of civilian information of lower quality, while The USGOV has over 200 high resolution images, video, and data including radar data to back this up.  Some of these photos may also show the occupants of these UAP as well.  This is a worldwide situation.


How to potentially defend yourself against them and see them:

NVG or Thermal, sometimes optically

Originally Posted By Concentricity:


Back in the '80s people who had been abducted by aliens would be on TV talking about getting anal probes up on the ship. You never hear about that anymore.

Originally Posted By ExFed1811:


The problem with any UFO disclosure at this point is that to do it, the government has to admit they have been lying to us  for seventy five years.

Think about finding out your wife who you love and admire and trust, had an affair on you, when she tells you about it a week later, versus finally finding out from your wife that you love and admire and trust, that she has been having affairs with lots of different people for the last fifty years.  The first situation is really bad and traumatic.  The second situation would be absolutely soul crushing.  That's the problem the government faces right now.

Originally Posted By MKSheppard:


This. Also the entire premise is like the X-Files now.

How would UAPs, aliens, bigfoot, sasquatches, jersey devel, etc all hide from humanity as sensor capability proliferates?

Every human now has at least a minimum 720p recording device in their pocket at all times; and previously advanced technologies (starlight scopes, thermal scopes) are proliferating down to the point it's cheap enough that someone could own them for the price of one fancy Leuopold scope glass.

So where's the little green men?

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
The tic-tacs were/are made right here, by Lockheed

Originally Posted By sw25th:
UAP Disclosure.  Are you Ready for it?

There is a certain element in the United States that is pushing hard for full disclosure on the fact that we are cohabitating and sharing planet Earth with a superior form of life.  This form of life, their materials, technology, and biology is so far advanced, we are essentially at their whim.

Thanks to technology and information advances in the past 100 years, our eyes have opened up to our reality, and we are essentially JUST coming out of the proverbial EGG, hatching and seeing our first glimpse outside this eggshell.  

Civilization, Humanity, and our technology has just reached a point where we have the ability to fully open our eyes, to see the reality around us.  It shouldn't come as a surprise that we have just now realized an NHI (non human intelligence) is already on our planet.

The USGOV has spent untold millions on psychological programs designed to convince the general public that aliens, and UFOs, and UAPs are not real.  This campaign has largely been successful, up until now.  The Psy-Op works by creating the impression aliens are anywhere but here, and we are still looking into the stars for them (SETI is a psyop).  It also involves some hollywood (how does the public react), and downplaying (balloons, swamp gas, elon musk), and may involve creating objects that looks similar to the real UAP.   They try to compare known human made objects to these UAP to downplay and dismiss.  

There is a major difference from accepted reality (the one you are in now), and the hard reality which is the one ive described.  The situation could go from completely normal, to SNAFU'd in a near instant.  

It's estimated the USGOV has spent 3 trillion so far, and potentially more.  There are around 30 people who have the full picture and they most likely all work at Area51.  There are research stations across the united states studying the samples.

The Threat:

Advanced superior forms of life, appear passive aggressive, are spying heavily on our military.  They have tested the waters so to speak, to establish their technology to ours.  Reports of firing penetrating lasers into 2x M1 Abrams tanks making a clean hole through them.  Intercepting warheads from missiles in flight.  Firing on italian helicopters.  Shutting off nuclear weapon flights, and turning them on in a different country.  Overflights of PANTEX nuclear storage bunkers, and a coalition base in Iraq that also likely had nukes, by the same jellyfish craft that Attempts to remain stealthy and unnoticed.  They have also counter spied on our intelligence community to learn what we know about them.  

They have fired on us, we have fired on them.  As recently as last year 2 were shot down by an F22 just after the chicom balloon.  

These UAP/NHI are already here in force.  They are probably not friendly, although not actively killing us, we are under total observation.  Their fleet is already here confirmed over Catalina Island by the TicTac video, and three cases where large ships were seen (half a mile wide or bigger).

First real known downed craft was Aurora TX 1897, then Magenta Italy in 1933, then Roswell 1947 was real, then a bunch of others found in the 1950s. Some archeological discoveries have been made like something out of indiana jones.  There was heightened UAP activity in the 1950s, in direct response to our engagement with them including a show of force overflight of Washington DC.

Do not expect the president to offer disclosure.  They have no interest in talking to the public about this.  You will have to appreciate disclosure from other places such as whistleblowers.

I made this post so you are not caught off-guard and that this doesn't come out of left field.  The amount of time to study this material is about 1-4 years to fully understand what is actually occurring.  We are not really capable of digesting the entirety of this whole UAP/NHI topic, which explains how it has managed to lurk behind our backs.

And before you say show me the evidence, there is an enormous overwhelming amount of evidence and correlation.  There is a massive amount of civilian information of lower quality, while The USGOV has over 200 high resolution images, video, and data including radar data to back this up.  Some of these photos may also show the occupants of these UAP as well.  This is a worldwide situation.


How to potentially defend yourself against them and see them:

NVG or Thermal, sometimes optically

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
The tic-tacs were/are made right here, by Lockheed

Originally Posted By ExFed1811:
Then why are they still soaking the US taxpayers for obsolete fighter jets when they could be soaking us for money to build more tic-tac's?

I don't see Lockheed Martin asking for money to build us  more P38 Lightning fighters.

Originally Posted By AZ_Mike:
Ann Margaret is a reptilian alien.

Originally Posted By hhsmiley:


How do I get off of this chickenshit planet?

There are no aliens. There are no UFO's. There are no UAP's.

It's a system of control and misdirection to keep people from noticing they are being herded into the slaughterhouse (by other humans).

Originally Posted By -Sabot42-:
Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead. If there were real UFOs and more than one person had the evidence we would know.

What we have for “evidence” is a bunch of phenomena that we can’t totally explain so viola confirmation bias creeps in from 70 years of Hollywood sci fi conditioning and it’s “aliens.”

Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Bletchley Park was a secret kept by around 10,000 people for decades.

Originally Posted By Concentricity:


Back in the '80s people who had been abducted by aliens would be on TV talking about getting anal probes up on the ship. You never hear about that anymore.

They have fired on us, we have fired on them.  As recently as last year 2 were shot down by an F22 just after the chicom balloon.  

Originally Posted By -Sabot42-:
Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead. If there were real UFOs and more than one person had the evidence we would know.

What we have for “evidence” is a bunch of phenomena that we can’t totally explain so viola confirmation bias creeps in from 70 years of Hollywood sci fi conditioning and it’s “aliens.”

Originally Posted By pale_pony:

Why are they still using fuel propulsion at all,  instead of inverse gravity?

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if they have the tech reported and the desire to end us.... we ain't stopping them.

not going to panic over something we can't control or have a say in. i suspect the odds of getting wiped out by a planet killer asteroid are higher than the aliens attacking us.

Originally Posted By Butternut:
Personally, I only need to read about how super top secret someone is once, and then get on with the substance of the topic. I'm a forgiving reader, but I may not be able to finish this one, or I'll need to punt and skip through. I guess I've been forever spoiled by Annie Jacobsen.