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Posted: 9/3/2024 8:57:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no proof of dark energy or dark matter beyond the fact that the math we use to describe the motion of the cosmos doesn't work without it. So either its most of the energy in existence and we can't detect, sense or measure it despite decades of trying or we don't understand as much as we think we do. I'm betting on hubris, but just because of experience Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power. Yeah, dark energy is kinda real-ish. As above, all it is is a placeholder term for stuff we don't know. That being said, the math isn't bad, it's not that hard. SOMETHING is making the calculations wrong without it. Someday we will know more, but until then powering alien spacecraft is certainly indisputable proof for its existence... BTW, this begs the question - you don't need to know the energy source, you need to explain how something going 20,000 mph through the atmosphere doesn't produce shockwaves and vapor trails - or chemtrails for that matter, if you're going that fast you might as well spew out some mind control vapor while you're at it... |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 8:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dark energy is what is driving the expansion of the universe. Right? So it is the force pushing against whatever is on the other side of the universe. What is on the other side? If it were a vacuum no force would be needed. So it must be a multiverse. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power. Dark energy is what is driving the expansion of the universe. Right? So it is the force pushing against whatever is on the other side of the universe. What is on the other side? If it were a vacuum no force would be needed. So it must be a multiverse. Nope. But keep at it, the answers are out there... |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:01:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:01:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 12 gauge works just fine for when you're all out of bubblegum. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, dark energy is kinda real-ish. As above, all it is is a placeholder term for stuff we don't know. That being said, the math isn't bad, it's not that hard. SOMETHING is making the calculations wrong without it. Someday we will know more, but until then powering alien spacecraft is certainly indisputable proof for its existence... BTW, this begs the question - you don't need to know the energy source, you need to explain how something going 20,000 mph through the atmosphere doesn't produce shockwaves and vapor trails - or chemtrails for that matter, if you're going that fast you might as well spew out some mind control vapor while you're at it... |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manipulation of space time. The object doesn't move through space, space time moves around the object. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, dark energy is kinda real-ish. As above, all it is is a placeholder term for stuff we don't know. That being said, the math isn't bad, it's not that hard. SOMETHING is making the calculations wrong without it. Someday we will know more, but until then powering alien spacecraft is certainly indisputable proof for its existence... BTW, this begs the question - you don't need to know the energy source, you need to explain how something going 20,000 mph through the atmosphere doesn't produce shockwaves and vapor trails - or chemtrails for that matter, if you're going that fast you might as well spew out some mind control vapor while you're at it... Nope. Wouldn't matter (I crack myself up with two word puns...). |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead. If there were real UFOs and more than one person had the evidence we would know. What we have for “evidence” is a bunch of phenomena that we can’t totally explain so viola confirmation bias creeps in from 70 years of Hollywood sci fi conditioning and it’s “aliens.” Or, do we have a bunch of dismissive attitudes because of "lack of evidence" and the Hollywood connection? Maybe men in black was actually a documentary... |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:18:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are your thoughts on this being a simulation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. What are your thoughts on this being a simulation? I have no idea- I’ve been a lawyer for scientists and doctors, and am neither scientist nor medico. Could it be possible? There are far simpler things that make no scientific or design sense but exist- no aeronautical engineer can explain why hummingbirds can fly, but Bob’s your uncle anyway. For all I know, there’s a universal over-mind laying out tomorrow’s reality as we speak. Anybody want to suggest a good lunch menu? |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... Sorry to disappoint you, but I earned my rank and profession. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:26:02 PM EDT
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1. Is there a place where we can order targets that have the likeness's of these aliens printed on them?
2. Will the Mozambique drill work on aliens? 3. What is time I should be training to achieve? 4. Do you have the pf for the ammo?  |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry to disappoint you, but I earned my rank and profession. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... Sorry to disappoint you, but I earned my rank and profession. Which are? |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have one that can see Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 12 gauge works just fine for when you're all out of bubblegum. Formaldehyde face! |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:30:22 PM EDT
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Wait, ... I thought this was a simulation.
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, ... I thought this was a simulation. Simulations can have aliens. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:32:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Is there a place where we can order targets that have the likeness's of these aliens printed on them? 2. Will the Mozambique drill work on aliens? 3. What is time I should be training to achieve? 4. Do you have the pf for the ammo? 1. Yes! https://www.amazon.com/Thompson-Target-Invasion-Shooting-Fluorescent/dp/B0D54MZBNK 2. No. But a reverse Mozambique will, since their heads are larger than their bodies. Two to the head then one in the torso. Common sense. 3. FTL 4. Here's where it gets tricky. If they are bending space time around things, then a bullet will pass right through them. Hence the baseball bat. It you swing away at their heads, if they try and bend space time they separate their heads into two space time continuums and die. Science. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea- I’ve been a lawyer for scientists and doctors, and am neither scientist nor medico. Could it be possible? There are far simpler things that make no scientific or design sense but exist- no aeronautical engineer can explain why hummingbirds can fly, but Bob’s your uncle anyway. For all I know, there’s a universal over-mind laying out tomorrow’s reality as we speak. Anybody want to suggest a good lunch menu? Aha, found it. Lawyer. Nevermind. (It does explain the word salad...) |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:39:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Wouldn't matter (I crack myself up with two word puns...). 
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:41:35 PM EDT
[#18]
What will the aliens say about Jesus Christ ?
That will tell you (well, me) what they really are. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:45:24 PM EDT
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Poll needs a choice for Bourbon.
I’m having Col Taylor’s. OP I think maybe prison brew |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. But keep at it, the answers are out there... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power. Dark energy is what is driving the expansion of the universe. Right? So it is the force pushing against whatever is on the other side of the universe. What is on the other side? If it were a vacuum no force would be needed. So it must be a multiverse. Nope. But keep at it, the answers are out there... I give up. Its all too complex for me. I'm just going back to jokes about Uranus. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 9:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. And they say Kamala is the king of word salads... OK, if you are serious, here is what's wrong: - String theory does NOT technically imply a multiverse. The Big Bang does and quantum theory does (in different ways), but not string theory. Branes might, but I don't think people are taking that one seriously (not branes themselves, but brane theory requiring multiverses) Especially since string theory hasn't advanced much in 20 years. EDIT: Just to be clear, current string theory predicts 10^500 possible universes based on strings, of which we are one (although we don't know kinda which one). This, however, does NOT require that the other 10^500-1 (the one we live in) exist. For the Big Bang and quantum theory, infinite multi-verses MUST exist for it to work. Clear? - If your lanes are supposed to be multi-verses, there is no need to be going in the same direction. Direction would be meaningless. There are no off ramps or "thinning" between universes in the multiverse. The theory states that we can never perceive them. If we could (or if aliens could) then quantum theory falls apart, and it hasn't. - No amount of imagination or science fiction can get around the FTL limit and the insane amounts of energy to get to even 10% of light speed (your car would require ALL of the earth's energy for a year to get to 10% of the speed of light). - The energy required to move through space is the same as space moving around an object. Calling it "Space-time" doesn't change anything. Either would produce effects in the atmosphere, including shockwaves from the air molecules (the "matter" in my pun) being pushed out of the way. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:00:28 PM EDT
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Ya'll make my head hurt.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:04:30 PM EDT
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My response to the apologists about colonialism is "if they didn't want to be taken over, they should have invented guns."
Same applies to earth and our new Alien overlords but replace guns with interstellar space travel and plasma rifles. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:20:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We were flying F-117s for about eight years before they were publicly acknowledged. The DOD can certainly keep things secret if they want to. When that thing was unveiled, it still looked like a plane and didn't break any laws of physics though. If the reports are accurate, these craft would be doing things that aren't possible under our current understanding. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:45:56 PM EDT
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IF “they’re here,” then as far as the argument about “how they got here” goes, I’m down with “they figured out how to manipulate the space time continuum itself” in terms of their “propulsion system.”
I could also be persuaded that “they” are actually US, from a future time, as opposed to being ETI. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When that thing was unveiled, it still looked like a plane and didn't break any laws of physics though. If the reports are accurate, these craft would be doing things that aren't possible under our current understanding. I'm not sure the human psyche is able to place itself correctly in the scale of what we already know, let alone what we don't know. Our species is the Dunning-Kruger effect. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 2:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300 years ago any airplane broke our understood laws of physics. Less than 70 years after man first flew, he walked on the moon. Given the vastness of space and time, either of those time frames are a blink. What will humanity learn in the next 100 years or 1000 years? I'm not sure the human psyche is able to place itself correctly in the scale of what we already know, let alone what we don't know. Our species is the Dunning-Kruger effect. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When that thing was unveiled, it still looked like a plane and didn't break any laws of physics though. If the reports are accurate, these craft would be doing things that aren't possible under our current understanding. I'm not sure the human psyche is able to place itself correctly in the scale of what we already know, let alone what we don't know. Our species is the Dunning-Kruger effect. Agree. We have millions if not billions of people who think they're well informed because they read news snippets on social media, or watch a TikTok of someone doing their thinking for them. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:02:35 PM EDT
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We can defeat them with Maple syrup!
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:15:29 PM EDT
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 Lue Elizondo Speaks With Curt Jaimungal |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:30:04 PM EDT
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Jesus Christ, does no one remember the Great Martian War of 1913-1917?
Or have you all been propagandized by Mainstream Science into forgetting it? Wait, is it called World War 1 in this timeline? There's a fucking documentary on it. Let me see if I can post a YouTwab link  The Great Martian War 1913-1917 Full Documentary |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:41:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elizondo is establishing his basis of knowledge. That's an intel thing. When you debrief someone, the first things you ask are about his background, training, experience, contacts, so that you have a reason to believe that the information he is going to give you is credible. As a drug agent, I've lost count of how many people would come into our office and tell us "A" is dealing drugs, but when you start questioning them, they know nothing about drugs, nothing about drug trafficking, and have never been around drug dealers or been arrested or put in jail. So you know their is information is probably worthless. They don't even have the basis of knowledge to know what they are telling you. On the other hand, when a guy comes in who has been arrested several times for drug dealing, who can tell you about other drug dealers, their names, their addresses, and knows the game, and tells you that "A" is dealing drugs, he may be lying, but he sure has the basis of knowledge to know. You can do it here. If I guy starts telling you how to build an AR-15 and you ask him how many has he built before and he says, 'none', that's a clue that he no idea what he is talking about, even if he sincerely believes he does. Whether you eventually believe Elizondo is telling the truth, or is part of some giant psyops campaign, knowing his background, gives you a lot better chance of making the correct assessment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Personally, I only need to read about how super top secret someone is once, and then get on with the substance of the topic. I'm a forgiving reader, but I may not be able to finish this one, or I'll need to punt and skip through. I guess I've been forever spoiled by Annie Jacobsen. Elizondo is establishing his basis of knowledge. That's an intel thing. When you debrief someone, the first things you ask are about his background, training, experience, contacts, so that you have a reason to believe that the information he is going to give you is credible. As a drug agent, I've lost count of how many people would come into our office and tell us "A" is dealing drugs, but when you start questioning them, they know nothing about drugs, nothing about drug trafficking, and have never been around drug dealers or been arrested or put in jail. So you know their is information is probably worthless. They don't even have the basis of knowledge to know what they are telling you. On the other hand, when a guy comes in who has been arrested several times for drug dealing, who can tell you about other drug dealers, their names, their addresses, and knows the game, and tells you that "A" is dealing drugs, he may be lying, but he sure has the basis of knowledge to know. You can do it here. If I guy starts telling you how to build an AR-15 and you ask him how many has he built before and he says, 'none', that's a clue that he no idea what he is talking about, even if he sincerely believes he does. Whether you eventually believe Elizondo is telling the truth, or is part of some giant psyops campaign, knowing his background, gives you a lot better chance of making the correct assessment. I agree. Just realize his background is Army Counter Intelligence. Think about that and what he has actually said and to whom he said it to. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:58:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much this. If you listen to the various serious people that discuss this, "outer space" isn't really what they talk about. In Lou's interview with Rogan he was extremely selective with the language he used. I had it on in the background and wasn't paying attention to the whole thing but at one point he asked Joe what he meant by "aliens". Lou's point was they are non human intelligence but not from outer space per say. Tucker famously implied that they are "demons" from another place/time/dimension but also specifically suggested they aren't from space. Maybe they have been here for hundreds or thousands of years. Certainly there are ancient paintings and texts that suggest something along those lines. It's weird. I still can't decide if this is just an elaborate cover for advanced technology we have or government slowly preparing a population for a reality changing revelation. Both things seem plausible. The thing that annoys me is that they continue to be intentionally vague. Elisondo suggests he knows far more than he is allowed to reveal. Maybe, maybe it's just marketing bullshit. If it's a rouse, a cover, it is by far the most complex and long running cover in the history of counter espionage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we're currently doing. There's some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they're able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they're gone all too quickly. It's hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there's evidence it's real. Tucker famously implied that they are "demons" from another place/time/dimension but also specifically suggested they aren't from space. Maybe they have been here for hundreds or thousands of years. Certainly there are ancient paintings and texts that suggest something along those lines. It's weird. I still can't decide if this is just an elaborate cover for advanced technology we have or government slowly preparing a population for a reality changing revelation. Both things seem plausible. The thing that annoys me is that they continue to be intentionally vague. Elisondo suggests he knows far more than he is allowed to reveal. Maybe, maybe it's just marketing bullshit. If it's a rouse, a cover, it is by far the most complex and long running cover in the history of counter espionage. If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we're currently doing. There's some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they're able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they're gone all too quickly. It's hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there's evidence it's real. Tucker famously implied that they are "demons" from another place/time/dimension but also specifically suggested they aren't from space. Maybe they have been here for hundreds or thousands of years. Certainly there are ancient paintings and texts that suggest something along those lines. It's weird. I still can't decide if this is just an elaborate cover for advanced technology we have or government slowly preparing a population for a reality changing revelation. Both things seem plausible. The thing that annoys me is that they continue to be intentionally vague. Elisondo suggests he knows far more than he is allowed to reveal. Maybe, maybe it's just marketing bullshit. If it's a rouse, a cover, it is by far the most complex and long running cover in the history of counter espionage. If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. So - to continue & expand the conversation - do you think the UAP thing is a new channel for deterrence…? If Fravor is smiling, like it’s an inside joke, is that joke “don’t nobody mess with the US, we’ve got stuff that the planes you already couldn’t beat, can’t beat…” FWIW I know Elizondo’s background but that doesn’t seem to be what he’s getting at in the book and interviews. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:32:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. My characterization of it being a big op was in regards to its long running nature. Basically starting in what '47? and continuing on from there. It has many pilots, not just Faber. He's the most recent with the actual sniper pod footage but there are hundreds of commercial pilots that have reported sightings. The area 51/S4 guy...Lazar...a very stable story, could be a kook...but that's a 30 year old story that he maintains. It has former gov officials involved. Harry Reid, I think some Intel or DoD political leaders. Publically claiming it's something. Is it possible that they are all in on it? Sure. Lou has the perfect creds to be at the center of a misinformation campaign. But if they are it's a big, long running OP, who's only obvious goal would be counter Intel misinformation for.... who? China? Russia? Who's the audience? If we have developed tech that we are trying to obscure with this story...its advanced right? And we have been working on it for 80 years? We went from kitty hawk to Apollo 11 in less time. Supposedly, Fabers flight with the pod footage was one in a long series of intercepts and contacts that the carrier group had been tracking over multiple days, the tic tacks had been following the carrier. This was the first time they'd gotten the pod to track one in flight. Maybe that explains the more casual response. Or maybe it's a really big, long running op. All good questions. I'd much prefer to think that DARPA is just way cooler than we know. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:51:23 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we're currently doing. There's some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they're able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they're gone all too quickly. It's hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there's evidence it's real. Tucker famously implied that they are "demons" from another place/time/dimension but also specifically suggested they aren't from space. Maybe they have been here for hundreds or thousands of years. Certainly there are ancient paintings and texts that suggest something along those lines. It's weird. I still can't decide if this is just an elaborate cover for advanced technology we have or government slowly preparing a population for a reality changing revelation. Both things seem plausible. The thing that annoys me is that they continue to be intentionally vague. Elisondo suggests he knows far more than he is allowed to reveal. Maybe, maybe it's just marketing bullshit. If it's a rouse, a cover, it is by far the most complex and long running cover in the history of counter espionage. If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Always appreciated your opinion on this topic. I tend to agree. Testing new technology against our most advanced sensors in a controlled environment seems like an obvious thing to do. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:03:21 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Always appreciated your opinion on this topic. I tend to agree. Testing new technology against our most advanced sensors in a controlled environment seems like an obvious thing to do. Maybe it's a subtle warning to our enemies. But the F22 is already capable of clubbing baby seals... |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:05:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea- I've been a lawyer for scientists and doctors, and am neither scientist nor medico. Could it be possible? There are far simpler things that make no scientific or design sense but exist- no aeronautical engineer can explain why hummingbirds can fly, but Bob's your uncle anyway. For all I know, there's a universal over-mind laying out tomorrow's reality as we speak. Anybody want to suggest a good lunch menu? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored. 1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we're currently doing. There's some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity. 2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they're able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they're gone all too quickly. It's hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there's evidence it's real. The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods. Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion. The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design. What are your thoughts on this being a simulation? I have no idea- I've been a lawyer for scientists and doctors, and am neither scientist nor medico. Could it be possible? There are far simpler things that make no scientific or design sense but exist- no aeronautical engineer can explain why hummingbirds can fly, but Bob's your uncle anyway. For all I know, there's a universal over-mind laying out tomorrow's reality as we speak. Anybody want to suggest a good lunch menu? We know exactly how hummingbirds fly. That's not remotely a mystery. The rest of you could study Roger Penrose. There are a couple of well done videos that describe his multiverse theory and a mechanism for traveling from one to another at intersecting corners. It doesn't help with crossing any given multiverse. As for black matter, there's a fair chance the calculations are off by many orders of magnitude. Always remember the equations put down to model observations are idealizations, not exact calculations, we aren't that smart. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:12:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We know exactly how hummingbirds fly. That's not remotely a mystery. The rest of you could study Roger Penrose. There are a couple of well done videos that describe his multiverse theory and a mechanism for traveling from one to another at intersecting corners. It doesn't help with crossing any given multiverse. As for black matter, there's a fair chance the calculations are off by many orders of magnitude. Always remember the equations put down to model observations are idealizations, not exact calculations, we aren't that smart. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:16:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 300 years ago any airplane broke our understood laws of physics. Less than 70 years after man first flew, he walked on the moon. Given the vastness of space and time, either of those time frames are a blink. What will humanity learn in the next 100 years or 1000 years? I'm not sure the human psyche is able to place itself correctly in the scale of what we already know, let alone what we don't know. Our species is the Dunning-Kruger effect. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When that thing was unveiled, it still looked like a plane and didn't break any laws of physics though. If the reports are accurate, these craft would be doing things that aren't possible under our current understanding. I'm not sure the human psyche is able to place itself correctly in the scale of what we already know, let alone what we don't know. Our species is the Dunning-Kruger effect. One of the current intellectual activities that bugs me are endless paper publishing full of slightly modified equations that do nothing to advance engineering application. No matter some obscure nuance and idealization in a paper that almost no one reads, the physical articles and how they behave under real conditions is what matters. The missing part is usually testing in the lab and in the field, and sometimes we get it wrong, so we learn, adjust, advance, and the next trial is successful, no one died, so risk was reduced and we better understand how to mitigate that risk. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:22:30 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it was bumble bees that shouldn't be able to fly? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We know exactly how hummingbirds fly. That's not remotely a mystery. The rest of you could study Roger Penrose. There are a couple of well done videos that describe his multiverse theory and a mechanism for traveling from one to another at intersecting corners. It doesn't help with crossing any given multiverse. As for black matter, there's a fair chance the calculations are off by many orders of magnitude. Always remember the equations put down to model observations are idealizations, not exact calculations, we aren't that smart. The Earth is flat. Flat Earthers accept larger tolerances in their measurement of flatness than the rest of us. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Earth is flat. Flat Earthers accept larger tolerances in their measurement of flatness than the rest of us. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As for black matter, there's a fair chance the calculations are off by many orders of magnitude. Always remember the equations put down to model observations are idealizations, not exact calculations, we aren't that smart. The dark matter calculations are pretty reasonable. We have logged billions of stars and millions of galaxies and have a pretty good idea about each star's mass and the amount of dust in galaxies. The pull of the galactic gravity vs the centripetal force of the stars' movement simply doesn't compute. The outer stars should be flying away from the center. I don't think that it's off by even one order of magnitude, because the dark matter in a galaxy is much greater than the observable matter. And it's been checked over and over since it was introduced 25 years ago. Still no clue as to what it is, but something is doing something. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:59:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them.  For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more secret, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:59:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We can defeat them with Maple syrup! Damn right, now spin up those asteroids. Wish he would continue that series |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:18:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Obsolutely, but fedgov owns 75% of Nevada for that. Why involve 5k people on a carrier and record it? Maybe it's a subtle warning to our enemies. But the F22 is already capable of clubbing baby seals... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Always appreciated your opinion on this topic. I tend to agree. Testing new technology against our most advanced sensors in a controlled environment seems like an obvious thing to do. Maybe it's a subtle warning to our enemies. But the F22 is already capable of clubbing baby seals... If they are ours and transmedium (sky/water) you would want to test them in water. Perhaps there are a lot more eyes on the Nevada desert these days than there used to be. Perhaps sea water is a requirement of the technology to function? I’m not going to pretend to have it all figured out or anything, I’m just fascinated by the topic and have a lot of thoughts on it. I do know that I can’t ignore my gut and trust what a bunch of glowies and democrats (Podesta, Clintons, Reid, etc) are trying to lead us to believe. I’m open to a lot of ideas and potentialities on the subject. It could be muiptiple things going on. The gov could be scapegoating some real phenomenon for their own purposes. It is interesting that a lot of stuff (“disclosure”) has been ramping up as global tensions between super powers increases. It’s a fun subject, but I’m not buying the narrative. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:18:59 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more security, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If it is a rouse / cover it really isn't that big. It is only a few individuals, and then lots of people that believe it and run with it. Listen again to the comm in the cockpit of the F18 on the tick tack video. They have supposedly intercepted something to investigate if it is a threat to the ship, yet they are laughing between the front seat and the back seat. There is zero sense of urgency or concern in their voices or language, the don't relay back to the ship what they are seeing or what they have intercepted. They are cavalier about it, because IMO and as someone who has done a lot of intercepts off the coast of the US while carrying live weapons to ID unknown intruders, IMO they already know what it is and they aren't there to ID a possible threat to the ship, IMO they were briefed and it was a scheduled mission. If it really was an unknown, and they watched it do unheard of stuff, and it was an active mission, a retired Navy Commander is not going to get on national TV and talk about it unless he was told to by appropriate authority. This whole thing is orchestrated bull shit. Wacth the video of LT Commander Fravor. He has a grin on his face the entire interview while he describes some unknown object defying the laws of physics. Luis Elizondo is a former United States Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more security, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. Rods 2, UAP Boogaloo |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:44:17 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they are ours and transmedium (sky/water) you would want to test them in water. Perhaps there are a lot more eyes on the Nevada desert these days than there used to be. Perhaps sea water is a requirement of the technology to function? I'm not going to pretend to have it all figured out or anything, I'm just fascinated by the topic and have a lot of thoughts on it. I do know that I can't ignore my gut and trust what a bunch of glowies and democrats (Podesta, Clintons, Reid, etc) are trying to lead us to believe. I'm open to a lot of ideas and potentialities on the subject. It could be muiptiple things going on. The gov could be scapegoating some real phenomenon for their own purposes. It is interesting that a lot of stuff ("disclosure") has been ramping up as global tensions between super powers increases. It's a fun subject, but I'm not buying the narrative. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:25:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOh man, that was a Brutal slog.  Skipped ahead 10 times, and finally started wishing aliens would invade just to break up the monotony.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:25:40 AM EDT
[#49]
Our shapeshifting politicians are out of this world!
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:49:26 AM EDT
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