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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:49:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: maybe they are made by boeing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yea…….if they are so smart how come they keep crashing their flying saucers. maybe they are made by boeing Best response ever 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more secret, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. This is a good post. It’s the same with the Sasquatch subject, and I believe there is a correlation to this phenomenon. Anyone that wants to know the truth can go out and find the truth. But if you need it spoon fed to you, well you will probably die ignorant. I know for a fact that men and women with government jobs know and conceal this information, but the flip side is that there is no compelling reason to change it. Most people prefer the lie over the truth. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:25:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more secret, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. Please explain. Do I have to record every plane and helicopter that flys over? Do they only show up certain places? What's the trick? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:59:00 AM EDT
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We've known via ancient texts that NHI have been around since humanitys existance.
Those NHI have been running a long game exposure campaign on us throughout history. Being patient and waiting for us to catch up, then ramp up the campaign (last 80yrs) at a time we're hungry for "a savior" to rescue us from ourselves. The gov denying their existance it is part of the ruse, in line with a time gov is distrusted, to make us seek them out harder. The stage has been cleverly set by NHI. The world is going to buy into it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:11:55 AM EDT
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How did I miss this thread?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:02:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead. If there were real UFOs and more than one person had the evidence we would know. What we have for “evidence” is a bunch of phenomena that we can’t totally explain so viola confirmation bias creeps in from 70 years of Hollywood sci fi conditioning and it’s “aliens.” Are you serious? Nobody cares. Boeing CV19 punctures Femz in medicine Apathy wins |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:31:21 PM EDT
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I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old.
 The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other.  |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:15:58 PM EDT
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The UAP is neat and all but WTF is art break day?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg That’s pretty cool. I haven’t read the whole thread. Did you share details of incident already? Will read more when I land non mobile. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:52:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead. If there were real UFOs and more than one person had the evidence we would know. What we have for "evidence" is a bunch of phenomena that we can't totally explain so viola confirmation bias creeps in from 70 years of Hollywood sci fi conditioning and it's "aliens." Clearly the programming has worked. Information has been leaking since Roswell but you've been conditioned to not believe it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:05:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If advanced aliens were here, they wouldnt be studying us to see what we know about them. They’d be stomping on us like ants. Yep. Diverting Hale-Bopp into our biosphere, introducing a gene-tailored kill-em-all bug, etc... The energies to travel between the stars are huge. Literally astronomical in size. If you can control those kind of energies, what would you even want with an Earth? Nostalgia? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:17:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg Was there sound? Did you have any pressure in ears? Can you recall if you felt fear or calm? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:30:43 PM EDT
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Bolter gun
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:36:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Diverting Hale-Bopp into our biosphere, introducing a gene-tailored kill-em-all bug, etc... The energies to travel between the stars are huge. Literally astronomical in size. If you can control those kind of energies, what would you even want with an Earth? Nostalgia? The aliens have to get their water and soylent green from somewhere. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's pretty cool. I haven't read the whole thread. Did you share details of incident already? Will read more when I land non mobile. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg That's pretty cool. I haven't read the whole thread. Did you share details of incident already? Will read more when I land non mobile. There's not a lot to actually tell. The event occurred either in 1988 to 1989, and it was dark already (probably around 7:30-8:00pm or so). My mom and I were going to go to the grocery store, and I was bored and went outside to wait for her. She was delayed for a bit by a phone call that she took after I went outside (unbeknownst to me). I was just kicking around rocks while waiting for her, and then I saw it silently moving across the sky to the south of me. I recall the two halves had illuminated and angled panels against the skin of the craft, and the upper and bottom halves were counter rotating. If I had to guess based on my memory it was a half a mile to maybe one mile away, and was about half a mile up in the air. Again, there was no sound, which was unnerving. It wasn't moving particularly fast per se, but continued moving across the sky to the west until it faded from view. This was in the city around 51st Ave and McDowell Rd (and I was just north of McDowell Rd watching it), so it almost seems unbelievable, but I know what I saw. I was an aircraft enthusiast as a boy (who wasn't in those days) and I did not mistake any sort of conventional aircraft for a UFO. I immediately panicked after it was gone and ran inside to tell my mom what I had seen. She was on the phone and did not care."That's nice dear."  I remember drawing a picture of it and trying to convince her of what happened. She did not believe me of course. The next day I told my teacher about it and she asked me to draw it and I did so but dishonestly embellished it with a cannon added to it. I still remember doing that even now, knowing that I never saw anything resembling a cannon and wonder why the hell I felt the need to do that, but I was a young boy so...Anyway, that's it. So yeah, UFOs and "flying saucers" are real. I don't pretend to know anything more than that. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:54:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Was there sound? Did you have any pressure in ears? Can you recall if you felt fear or calm? As noted in my account in my post above this one, there was no sound. I remember being awestruck by it while I witnessed it moving across the sky, but then I got panicked and scared. I immediately ran inside after I saw it disappear.  I don't remember and issue with my ears and air pressure. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @6gunfighter2 There's not a lot to actually tell. The event occurred either in 1988 to 1989, and it was dark already (probably around 7:30-8:00pm or so). My mom and I were going to go to the grocery store, and I was bored and went outside to wait for her. She was delayed for a bit by a phone call that she took after I went outside (unbeknownst to me). I was just kicking around rocks while waiting for her, and then I saw it silently moving across the sky to the south of me. I recall the two halves had illuminated and angled panels against the skin of the craft, and the upper and bottom halves were counter rotating. If I had to guess based on my memory it was a half a mile to maybe one mile away, and was about half a mile up in the air. Again, there was no sound, which was unnerving. It wasn't moving particularly fast per se, but continued moving across the sky to the west until it faded from view. This was in the city around 51st Ave and McDowell Rd (and I was just north of McDowell Rd watching it), so it almost seems unbelievable, but I know what I saw. I was an aircraft enthusiast as a boy (who wasn't in those days) and I did not mistake any sort of conventional aircraft for a UFO. I immediately panicked after it was gone and ran inside to tell my mom what I had seen. She was on the phone and did not care."That's nice dear." I remember drawing a picture of it and trying to convince her of what happened. She did not believe me of course. The next day I told my teacher about it and she asked me to draw it and I did so but dishonestly embellished it with a cannon added to it. I still remember doing that even now, knowing that I never saw anything resembling a cannon and wonder why the hell I felt the need to do that, but I was a young boy so...Anyway, that's it. So yeah, UFOs and "flying saucers" are real. I don't pretend to know anything more than that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg That's pretty cool. I haven't read the whole thread. Did you share details of incident already? Will read more when I land non mobile. There's not a lot to actually tell. The event occurred either in 1988 to 1989, and it was dark already (probably around 7:30-8:00pm or so). My mom and I were going to go to the grocery store, and I was bored and went outside to wait for her. She was delayed for a bit by a phone call that she took after I went outside (unbeknownst to me). I was just kicking around rocks while waiting for her, and then I saw it silently moving across the sky to the south of me. I recall the two halves had illuminated and angled panels against the skin of the craft, and the upper and bottom halves were counter rotating. If I had to guess based on my memory it was a half a mile to maybe one mile away, and was about half a mile up in the air. Again, there was no sound, which was unnerving. It wasn't moving particularly fast per se, but continued moving across the sky to the west until it faded from view. This was in the city around 51st Ave and McDowell Rd (and I was just north of McDowell Rd watching it), so it almost seems unbelievable, but I know what I saw. I was an aircraft enthusiast as a boy (who wasn't in those days) and I did not mistake any sort of conventional aircraft for a UFO. I immediately panicked after it was gone and ran inside to tell my mom what I had seen. She was on the phone and did not care."That's nice dear." I remember drawing a picture of it and trying to convince her of what happened. She did not believe me of course. The next day I told my teacher about it and she asked me to draw it and I did so but dishonestly embellished it with a cannon added to it. I still remember doing that even now, knowing that I never saw anything resembling a cannon and wonder why the hell I felt the need to do that, but I was a young boy so...Anyway, that's it. So yeah, UFOs and "flying saucers" are real. I don't pretend to know anything more than that. Thanks. BTW, my Mom (God rest her soul) used to use the "That's nice dear" line a lot too (translation = she was "listening" without listening).
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:32:25 PM EDT
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My experience:
I told this story on ARFCOM some years ago, but it's the only story I have, so I'll tell it again. It as about 1984. The Denver Bronchos were playing a home game in Mile High Stadium when a blizzard blew in. This was a week before CO deer season. My group of Texas hunters had a lease on private property near Rifle, CO. The camp had a very old cabin at it's center with 3 or 4 small, narrow canyons radiating out from it like spokes on a wagon wheel. There was still several inches of snow from the last week's blizzard. The day before the opening day, we all scouted the canyons and agreed as to who would hunt where. I, and the hunter I was paired-up with, settled on the left canyon. Our canyon was very narrow, probably about 15-20 yds wide and not too steep with several inches of snow. My partner was behind the wheel of his late '70's Jeep Wagoneer with hubs locked and chains wired on w/bailing wire. We drove about 200 yds up the canyon and stopped to wait for dawn to get out and start our hunt. My partner would run the heater a few minutes at a time, which fogged the windows some. After siting a while, my partner looked in the rear view mirror and was pissed because someone was coming up our canyon and might foul our hunt. I turned and looked out the fogged rear window and could see what appeared to be a headlight or headlights at the base of the canyon. The canyon had a round, cul-de-sac-like natural turn-around at it's base. The light/s slowly circled in the base of the canyon, then slowly made their way up to us. I got an impression of a dog sniffing around. CONTINUED |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:41:39 PM EDT
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They made their way up to our rear bumper and shut off their bright light/s.
We got out to see who they were and what they wanted. I thought there might be some sort of emergency. THERE WAS NOBODY THERE, NO VEHICLE AND NO TRACKS IN THE SNOW BUT OUR'S. With the little glow of dawn and the snow reflecting, it was almost bright enough to read a book. I could see all the way to the base of the canyon. We were alone. We got back in the jeep, loaded our mags, and sat away from the locked doors to wait for enough light to hunt. My partner was very shaken. I was confused and dumbfounded. I figured an explaination would come. 40 yrs later, it hasn't. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They made their way up to our rear bumper and shut off their bright light/s. We got out to see who they were and what they wanted. I thought there might be some sort of emergency. THERE WAS NOBODY THERE, NO VEHICLE AND NO TRACKS IN THE SNOW BUT OUR'S. With the little glow of dawn and the snow reflecting, it was almost bright enough to read a book. I could see all the way to the base of the canyon. We were alone. We got back in the jeep, loaded our mags, and sat away from the locked doors to wait for enough light to hunt. My partner was very shaken. I was confused and dumbfounded. I figured an explaination would come. 40 yrs later, it hasn't. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:08:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. BTW, my Mom (God rest her soul) used to use the "That's nice dear" line a lot too (translation = she was "listening" without listening). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg That's pretty cool. I haven't read the whole thread. Did you share details of incident already? Will read more when I land non mobile. There's not a lot to actually tell. The event occurred either in 1988 to 1989, and it was dark already (probably around 7:30-8:00pm or so). My mom and I were going to go to the grocery store, and I was bored and went outside to wait for her. She was delayed for a bit by a phone call that she took after I went outside (unbeknownst to me). I was just kicking around rocks while waiting for her, and then I saw it silently moving across the sky to the south of me. I recall the two halves had illuminated and angled panels against the skin of the craft, and the upper and bottom halves were counter rotating. If I had to guess based on my memory it was a half a mile to maybe one mile away, and was about half a mile up in the air. Again, there was no sound, which was unnerving. It wasn't moving particularly fast per se, but continued moving across the sky to the west until it faded from view. This was in the city around 51st Ave and McDowell Rd (and I was just north of McDowell Rd watching it), so it almost seems unbelievable, but I know what I saw. I was an aircraft enthusiast as a boy (who wasn't in those days) and I did not mistake any sort of conventional aircraft for a UFO. I immediately panicked after it was gone and ran inside to tell my mom what I had seen. She was on the phone and did not care."That's nice dear." I remember drawing a picture of it and trying to convince her of what happened. She did not believe me of course. The next day I told my teacher about it and she asked me to draw it and I did so but dishonestly embellished it with a cannon added to it. I still remember doing that even now, knowing that I never saw anything resembling a cannon and wonder why the hell I felt the need to do that, but I was a young boy so...Anyway, that's it. So yeah, UFOs and "flying saucers" are real. I don't pretend to know anything more than that. Thanks. BTW, my Mom (God rest her soul) used to use the "That's nice dear" line a lot too (translation = she was "listening" without listening). |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:13:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Finslayer83 As noted in my account in my post above this one, there was no sound. I remember being awestruck by it while I witnessed it moving across the sky, but then I got panicked and scared. I immediately ran inside after I saw it disappear. I don't remember and issue with my ears and air pressure. thank you. When dad I saw one when I was a kid, it was similar to what you described, Middle TN, 4th of July, 1994 or 1995, right before it got dark to shoot off fireworks. All the neighbors saw it, we were all outside in the cul-de-sac. One of which was a retired Col. who flew F4's in Vietnam - I remember him running off to get a camera. I remember my ears popping as they do as you descend on an aircraft. ETA: I did have the spidey sense feel you get before you are about to get into a fight, etc... guess its a natural flight response. Oddly enough I've also felt the same way twice again, both times I was camping, in the middle of the night in my tent. Woke straight up and had that feeling. First time was at Philmont with scouts and then again in college when we were camping right under Looking Glass Rock off the Art Loeb trail, Pisgah National Forest. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can defeat them with Maple syrup!  Defeat them? Kinda/sorta. You can damned sure get rich selling it, though. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:34:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no artist but today is Art Break Day, and my employer participates. I sat down to draw a reasonable facsimile of the object I saw when I was 8 years old. The illuminated sections weren't yellow, but I needed to give the perception of light. The halves were counter rotating from each other. https://i.imgur.com/nlxKvz4.jpeg Years later, I went to Google maps and figured out where that sighting probably happened and there is no way there was an airport out there. There just wasn't room between the road and the mountains. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:47:08 PM EDT
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I for one, would like to be friends with these beings.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That dude has like ten million videos of these things. Can't find one where he explains how to o spot them Please explain. Do I have to record every plane and helicopter that flys over? Do they only show up certain places? What's the trick? He did it again in the last video he put up. Everyone else seems to understand how to do it. Maybe it's just beyond you to figure it out. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He did it again in the last video he put up. Everyone else seems to understand how to do it. Maybe it's just beyond you to figure it out. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more secret, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. Ok so I watched like 2 or 3 of his videos and to me it seems like a lot of the "objects" he is filming are flying insects. Example: you can clearly see the wings on what appears to me to be a bee.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:40:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so I watched like 2 or 3 of his videos and to me it seems like a lot of the "objects" he is filming are flying insects. Example: you can clearly see the wings on what appears to me to be a bee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/140720/thisisabee_jpg-3316604.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here is the only problem with that logic. It's pretty easy to video tape these things for yourself with just the slightest effort. There are several Youtube channels of guys who do it all the time, and who, rather than expecting you to believe them, tell you how to do it for yourself. I was a non-believer until the tic tac videos and then I was interested. But, the thing that put me over the fence, was videotaping them myself. They are hauling ass, so you have to slow your camera frame rate on playback to see them, but they are there. And, unbelievably easy to video and capture. Here is one screenshot from one I captured buzzing a Navy Seahawk flying over my house. They are going so fast that you don't even see them when you watch the video at normal speed, you have to go frame by frame to see them. I have so many of these videos, all showing the exact same fly by's that I got tired of videoing them. https://i.ibb.co/hLzTQyC/Screen-Shot-2023-12-07-at-9-08-08-AM.png For how to do it, check out Custodian Files on youtube. He's a retired guy who has made it his hobby and will tell you exactly how to do it, too. And, if you still thinks it all people's imaginations, well then, that doesn't hurt anything, does it? I've learned that a significant number of friends I show my videos to are actually freaked out and upset by it. Sometimes, it's just better not to know. As for Commander Fravor, I suspect this wasn't the first time he had seen or heard of these things. I doubt it was even the first time they were filmed. I think he talked about what he was allowed to talk about. And, I think the whole idea is to break it to us gently, lest the people of less than full mental health go bonkers on us. I held a TS/SCI for twenty one years. I don't know any secrets about UFO/UAPs, but I know a lot of secrets about some other pretty bizarre events that are still classified (or even more secret, the "This never happened" classification). And, I like my pension and lifetime medical care enough that I will take my secrets to my grave. I suspect that applies to a whole lot of people when it comes to UFO/UAPs as well. Ok so I watched like 2 or 3 of his videos and to me it seems like a lot of the "objects" he is filming are flying insects. Example: you can clearly see the wings on what appears to me to be a bee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/140720/thisisabee_jpg-3316604.JPG Clearly a bug… lots of the night lights are now drones, too. We (UFO experiencers/fans/researchers, of which I am only the first two) need to self-police to keep mistaken sightings and outright fakes at a minimum. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 4:45:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Thanks for sharing your own experiences.
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Posted: 9/8/2024 8:26:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2024 2:26:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:35:42 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was awesome when he guest stared in Resident Alien. Quote HistoryQuoted: It was awesome when he guest stared in Resident Alien. There was a few ufologists on resident alien. I thought that was pretty cool. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:58:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Why is it always the US Govt who holds all the cards? Do you think aliens would have ever visited China or Russia or Australia or ....?
Those governments might have said fuck it, here's what we know. It's all drama for US consumption. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:22:42 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it always the US Govt who holds all the cards? Do you think aliens would have ever visited China or Russia or Australia or ....? Those governments might have said fuck it, here's what we know. It's all drama for US consumption. We have been involved with Australia. Lots of triangle sightings there. Alice Springs is their Area 51. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:29:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have been involved with Australia. Lots of triangle sightings there. Alice Springs is their Area 51. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:32:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alice Springs (pine gap) is a US electronic surveillance hub. It's what makes AUS part of the 5 eyes. I live near Stennis Space Center. (A good part of our town works there). That's like thinking that all they do there is test rocket engines. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:39:32 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it always the US Govt who holds all the cards? Do you think aliens would have ever visited China or Russia or Australia or ....? Those governments might have said fuck it, here's what we know. It's all drama for US consumption. The problem with that hypothesis, is that there have already been the same type disclosures made from high ranking officials in Canada, the UK, Israel, and other countries. They are easy to find. There were even some made from Russia in the friendly period immediately following the break up of the Soviet Union. Those countries all fear the societal and governmental order breakdown that might follow official and full disclosure, the same as the USG does. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:43:19 AM EDT
[#39]
I was thinking that if aliens were technologically advanced enough to travel the universe, why would they want to come to earth?
Maybe to use the restroom? 
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:47:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I live near Stennis Space Center. (A good part of our town works there). That's like thinking that all they do there is test rocket engines. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:52:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking that if aliens were technologically advanced enough to travel the universe, why would they want to come to earth? Maybe to use the restroom? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:53:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alice Springs (pine gap) is a US electronic surveillance hub. It's what makes AUS part of the 5 eyes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have been involved with Australia. Lots of triangle sightings there. Alice Springs is their Area 51. Yes. Hence the interest. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 12:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Hence the interest. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 12:48:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Interesting reading some of the sightings posted. I went outside one night and saw lights in the sky that looked very much like a giant ship rotating in the sky. It was cloudy, all I could see was the shape and movement of the lights. What I saw in the clouds looked so much like it was right out of an alien movie that it made me think it must be a projection or prank of some kind.
Then the lights changed, and instead of looking perfectly like the exterior of a giant ship, they started racing out from where the ship was incredibly fast and far, and then racing back to where the "ship" was. Like searchlights, except it was flying balls of light, not beams. Just these balls of light zooming all around and over my head. You could imagine it as if dozens of giant search lights were going absolutely crazy all over the sky, but without beams or trails. There were obvious patterns to the movement, so not ball lightning or any shit like that. The whole thing was maybe a minute before the lights briefly went back into "ship" formation and then disappeared. At first I really thought it had to be BS, some prank or something. But I found videos online of similar sightings, and the comments are always full of people claiming it's just search lights. Maybe, but I don't think it was. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 12:52:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking that if aliens were technologically advanced enough to travel the universe, why would they want to come to earth? Maybe to use the restroom? We send probes to explore our solar system. If we had the capability to explore other solar systems we would, especially if they had life. That said, who can know the motivation of alien beings, if they exist. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 12:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do people go to the zoo? To show off amazing future technology? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 1:30:56 PM EDT
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When I was a teenager me and a buddy were sitting on a small shed roof while a group of friends were paintballing in the woods beside it. All the sudden the shed and us were aglow in a bright ass light from above. It only lasted a second and we kinda looked at each other like what the fuck was that. He ended up getting some rare cancer in his sinuses and died this year after battling it for years. I kinda wonder if I’m next.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 1:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahhh okay, gotcha… probably comes down to preference - I read the same thing and it didn’t really register for me. It does get more interesting the further you get. The part about “something” blasting some kind of directed energy weapon clean though not one, but two M1 Abrams tanks got me going. Funny you mention Annie - I bought her Area 51 book when I bought Lue’s. Can you tell I’m on a theme here?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eh? I am half way thru it and found nothing of the sort. Ahhh okay, gotcha… probably comes down to preference - I read the same thing and it didn’t really register for me. It does get more interesting the further you get. The part about “something” blasting some kind of directed energy weapon clean though not one, but two M1 Abrams tanks got me going. Funny you mention Annie - I bought her Area 51 book when I bought Lue’s. Can you tell I’m on a theme here? Update: Finished the book this morning. I think the stuff about service, dedication etc., was character study background detail so we know why he’s doing it. He weaves that kind of thing in and out of the book, but never too much or too long in my opinion, and it’s still worth reading to see what Stage Two of big-D Disclosure looks like. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 2:57:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Diverting Hale-Bopp into our biosphere, introducing a gene-tailored kill-em-all bug, etc... The energies to travel between the stars are huge. Literally astronomical in size. If you can control those kind of energies, what would you even want with an Earth? Nostalgia? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If advanced aliens were here, they wouldnt be studying us to see what we know about them. They’d be stomping on us like ants. Yep. Diverting Hale-Bopp into our biosphere, introducing a gene-tailored kill-em-all bug, etc... The energies to travel between the stars are huge. Literally astronomical in size. If you can control those kind of energies, what would you even want with an Earth? Nostalgia? Intelligent life is the rarest thing in the universe but they're wasting their time on earth... |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 3:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, I'm just saying there is a significant US government presence in an area where UAPs are sighted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I live near Stennis Space Center. (A good part of our town works there). That's like thinking that all they do there is test rocket engines. What? No way. 
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