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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:06:16 PM EDT
[#1]
If you wanted to hide funding from the Russian government to shill for them, is this how you would do it?
Would you create traceable transactions and ties? Seems like this whole thing was designed to be caught. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:07:02 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's some truth to it. Scott Ritter via Tucker Carlson. Ditto for col whatisface I remember when arf om hated the F35...on the strength of Pierre Sprey being interviewed about it on Russia Today We like to pretend we're immune to propaganda. We aren't. We absolutely need to be on guard against it and view everything with skepticism...doubly so the words that sound like honey. This. I don’t doubt that the Chinese are meddling on the left or maligned actors playing all side to sow division but we should all be on guard. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:08:46 PM EDT
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Oh look, another leftist disinformation campaign to disrupt the reputations of those who speak against them.
And just in time for the elections. What a coincidence. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:10:57 PM EDT
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Russian disinformation is so vast and layered, that it doesn't surprise me one bit. Some are willing pawns and some are just useful idiots.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:12:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's amazing people actually believe Merrick Garland. I'm old enough to remember last week when no one trusted the DOJ, this is a DOJ psyop to sow distrust and division. They want to shut down all opposition media and call them Russian assets, and instead of people laughing at the DOJ for trying this played out psyop again people are actually falling for it; again. I guess some people would rather be part of the collective than think for themselves. It's only "working" because all of the left and half of the right want this group of dissonant voices silenced. The Ukraine shills here in the "conservative sphere" have latched on immediately because anything that can shut down dissent on funding and support of Ukraine gets big thumbs up. The entirety of the left want anyone they can get on the conservative side of the fence censored and kicked out of polite society so they will take these commentators as tribute and circle back around for the rest of us later. No one actually believes this shit, it's just a politically expedient way of disposing of people with inconvenient opinions. The people pushing this narrative are praying to Satan that these people will be dragged off to never be heard from again so the meat grinder can continue to trade American cash for dead Ukrainians and Russians. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:16:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a propagandist is perfectly acceptable as long as you have the correct narrative. My only issue with any of this is the faux outrage. How many people are on the Ukrainian payroll or Israeli payroll and it's entirely ok. Listen to it all and make up your own mind as to what the truth is cause not a single one of them is telling a complete truth. Yep. Faux outrage. I bet they don't have a problem with Doug Klain, a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council, based out of DC writing doozies like "How to convince MAGA Republicans to support Ukraine", for the newspaper Ukrainska Pravda, in which he details a foreign influence campaign he ran against elected officials https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/columns/2024/06/10/7460093/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:17:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder how many FISA warrants are out on conservative media now? Damned fine question. I suspect at this stage they have abandoned that formality. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Timcast has one person on their payroll (Cassandra Fairbanks) who used to work for RT... Therefore Russian shill. Got it. The metric for many of these people is that if you aren't 100% for US taxpayer funding, military equipment, and possibly even US servicemen being sent to Ukraine, you're a Russian. Yup. Sad. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:28:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone I don't like is a --Ukebros |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:36:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Before I get wrapped up in this Russian thing again, can someone prioritize the paid-for-influencer spenders?
Russia China Israel Big Pharma Big Tech MIC Taxpayers Democrat/Republican official Political misc/other Wall St Business interests misc/other I don't want to have misplaced outrage. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:37:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Mcbeth eats Snickers upside down.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:38:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good propaganda makes you believe a lie. The best propaganda makes you believe nothing. The DOJ could do something right and people here would start supporting the other side. I suppose I'd rather believe nothing I haven't witnessed first-hand than believe what I'm told to. I think people would be much better off if more of them did so. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:40:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd peg him as deep state. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd peg him as deep state. Um, phrasing! Just because someone doesn’t agree with you and you don’t like them doesn’t make them apart of the deep state. Quoted: Biden has been on the PRC payroll, so there's that. I don’t trust the deep state. They’re trying to get you to focus on other issues! China is not the bad guy. We have to focus on our own monsters instead of foreign problems |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep Y'all are getting it. Tim is gonna get fried, so will Benny Johnson (maybe because he mostly hammers liberal foolishness). That's how it's done. Don't nail them on something controversial like "They worked with Russia" or "They undermined the US". Too many people will see through that and create problems. Nail them with some dumb mundane shit like "They lied to an investigator" that way everyone can go "Ha! What a moron. Why would you do that? Shoulda got a lawyer." and forget all about them. That's how you take someone of influence and make them a nobody. Nobodys are easy to get rid of. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look, another leftist disinformation campaign to disrupt the reputations of those who speak against them. And just in time for the elections. What a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look, another leftist disinformation campaign to disrupt the reputations of those who speak against them. And just in time for the elections. What a coincidence. It should have been done years ago. There are CCP and Russian spies and propagandists all over “alternative” media and inside both parties. Quoted: --Ukebros In this case they actually were Russian propagandists. Ironic. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you were not a part of the USG but getting briefed by a foreign nation’s DAT, a nation you have a genetic connection to. And you went about passing that information on various message boards. You have literally just said you are spreading foreign government information, the very definition of someone who could be prosecuted for a FARA violation if laws were applied equally in this nation. Get with legal about that, because that’s not an understanding supported by law or case law. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I expect liberals and the mainstream media to lie and smear - and I also expect those on 'our side' to somewhat learn after the 50th incident. You'd think so, but instead many of us enthusiastically embrace propaganda put forth by foreign agents covertly controlling the editorial policy of American media companies to further the war aims of a murderous dictator who sees himself as the next Peter the Great, so long as that editorial policy ALSO assures us that it is all the fault of the Democrats. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:22:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um, phrasing! Just because someone doesn’t agree with you and you don’t like them doesn’t make them apart of the deep state. I don’t trust the deep state. They’re trying to get you to focus on other issues! China is not the bad guy. We have to focus on our own monsters instead of foreign problems Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd peg him as deep state. Um, phrasing! Just because someone doesn’t agree with you and you don’t like them doesn’t make them apart of the deep state. Quoted: Biden has been on the PRC payroll, so there's that. I don’t trust the deep state. They’re trying to get you to focus on other issues! China is not the bad guy. We have to focus on our own monsters instead of foreign problems This has been the game of the state for a long time. "Dont look inward while both Dems and Reps pilfer the coffers and line their own pockets, but look at the bogie men instead." China is an asshole, but they arent our real enemy. Their economy would collapse without us buying their shit. They fuck with us like a sibling, but they need us to exist. Their state as our enemy is in how they steel American IP and do backroom deals with our politicians (both left and right). Our biggest enemies are internal and they are destroying our country. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:31:55 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd think so, but instead many of us enthusiastically embrace propaganda put forth by foreign agents covertly controlling the editorial policy of American media companies to further the war aims of a murderous dictator who sees himself as the next Peter the Great, so long as that editorial policy ALSO assures us that it is all the fault of the Democrats. I personally don't need Putin to tell me to hate the Democrats, they've earned my hatred all on their own. Whatever they may or may not have done in Ukraine is a minor blip in the grand scheme of their treachery. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:43:15 PM EDT
[#20]
I don’t give a shit if they work with the Russians or not. Whatever it takes to defeat the left.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:46:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This has been the game of the state for a long time. "Dont look inward while both Dems and Reps pilfer the coffers and line their own pockets, but look at the bogie men instead." China is an asshole, but they arent our real enemy. Their economy would collapse without us buying their shit. They fuck with us like a sibling, but they need us to exist. Their state as our enemy is in how they steel American IP and do backroom deals with our politicians (both left and right). Our biggest enemies are internal and they are destroying our country. I disagree. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tim Pool files a lawsuit against Harris. A couple days later, DOJ announces indictment against media company funding tim pool's culture war podcast. Hmmm.... The media company that Pool works for (Tenet) wasn't indicted. Nor were the owners or employees. In fact, neither the company nor any of its employees/youtubers were even named in the indictment ("U.S. Company-1, " "Founder-1 and -2," and "Commentator-1 and -2." Two people were indicted for money laundering and acting as unregistered foreign agents - both are alleged to be Russian citizens and employees of RT, a Russian State-controlled media company. It is alleged that they allegedly represented their funding source as an "accomplished finance professional" in both France and Belgium, when in fact it was RT. The text of the indictment is here. Mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:50:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The media company that Pool works for (Tenet) wasn't indicted. Nor were the owners or employees. In fact, neither the company nor any of its employees/youtubers were even named in the indictment ("U.S. Company-1, " "Founder-1 and -2," and "Commentator-1 and -2." Two people were indicted for money laundering and acting as unregistered foreign agents - both are alleged to be Russian citizens and employees of RT, a Russian State-controlled media company. It is alleged that they allegedly represented their funding source as an "accomplished finance professional" in both France and Belgium, when in fact it was RT. The text of the indictment is here. Mike Hmm. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:52:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t trust the deep state. They’re trying to get you to focus on other issues! China is not the bad guy. We have to focus on our own monsters instead of foreign problems WTF. China is absolutely a bad guy, one million percent. You can argue there are way more dangerous enemies, but to say they aren’t a bad actor, for the US, as well as many other countries, is inaccurate. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:00:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, didn't expect this. I’m surprised it’s not CP. I guess Russia still works for the time being. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:13:21 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This has been the game of the state for a long time. "Dont look inward while both Dems and Reps pilfer the coffers and line their own pockets, but look at the bogie men instead." China is an asshole, but they arent our real enemy. Their economy would collapse without us buying their shit. They fuck with us like a sibling, but they need us to exist. Their state as our enemy is in how they steel American IP and do backroom deals with our politicians (both left and right). Our biggest enemies are internal and they are destroying our country. I disagree. Sure they're an enemy, but they're only really a PROBLEM because of our politicians. North Korea is an enemy. But are they a problem? Not really. Because they don't buy off our politicians. Boko Haram is an enemy. But are they a problem? Not to us. We don't have much of a reason to really worry about what they do. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:16:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Why do I have this back of the mind thought that the democrats are behind this all.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:17:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you wanted to hide funding from the Russian government to shill for them, is this how you would do it? Would you create traceable transactions and ties? Seems like this whole thing was designed to be caught. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:29:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryLOL he's so fucked if he doesnt lawyer up. Tim Pool is literally the "this is fine" meme right now. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:30:08 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't give a shit. Fuck the left, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ. Just cherrypicking bullshit to distract from their own crimes. More "Russian Collusion". THEY are the enemy, their accusations mean fuck-all to me. Pretty much. Why no discussion how the USSR spent decades infiltrating all our institutions and the Democrat party? Oh yeah pretty sure I know why there's no discussion of that. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:38:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Starting to see multiple Reddit posts pushing this narrative. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f9azjh/right_wing_influencers_were_allegedly_peddling/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f9lguo/tenet_media_tim_pool_david_rubin_etc_are_paid/ And this from Ryan McBeth  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzaeeynpo1sScreen names? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:21:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The media company that Pool works for (Tenet) wasn't indicted. Nor were the owners or employees. In fact, neither the company nor any of its employees/youtubers were even named in the indictment ("U.S. Company-1, " "Founder-1 and -2," and "Commentator-1 and -2." Two people were indicted for money laundering and acting as unregistered foreign agents - both are alleged to be Russian citizens and employees of RT, a Russian State-controlled media company. It is alleged that they allegedly represented their funding source as an "accomplished finance professional" in both France and Belgium, when in fact it was RT. The text of the indictment is here. Mike Be interesting to see who they were. 2.4 and 1.3 million viewers, respectively. Timcast apparently has 1.28 million subs as of right now |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:56:27 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF. China is absolutely a bad guy, one million percent. You can argue there are way more dangerous enemies, but to say they aren’t a bad actor, for the US, as well as many other countries, is inaccurate. Right? I'm actually not surprised by that post though. 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:09:55 AM EDT
[#34]
And so it begins
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:13:38 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, didn't expect this. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:17:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Meanwhile, Putin backs Kumblabla.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-vlad-putin-supports-kamala-harris-for-us-president/ar-AA1q3DNb |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:56:54 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t give a shit if they work with the Russians or not. Whatever it takes to defeat the left. Does anyone believe Garland anymore? The FBI is just the enforcement arm of the dems. Look at Jack Smith. We got him this time, same charges. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:42:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:00:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get with legal about that, because that’s not an understanding supported by law or case law. Case law? You mean the case of it not really being prosecuted until they went after Gen Flynn for it and other people on the right? Oh, that is right, it’s only used against the enemies of the state, meaning it is up to the prosecutors and what has been done is within the realm of what could be used as paragraph 1 of the indictment. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:19:55 AM EDT
[#40]
Now that the DOJ is indicting for taking money from Russia under the claim of propping up political commentary, when will they begin to indict everyone who is taking money from Israel or the CCP for doing the same thing?
Oh, that's different... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:31:59 AM EDT
[#41]
The Russians have been working to "influence" western media for 60 years, it isn't hard to believe anything along those lines these days, including the FBI letting it go on so they can do their own influencing game.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:38:01 AM EDT
[#42]
 Attached FileQuote HistoryQuoted: Before I get wrapped up in this Russian thing again, can someone prioritize the paid-for-influencer spenders? Russia China Israel Big Pharma Big Tech MIC Taxpayers Democrat/Republican official Political misc/other Wall St Business interests misc/other I don't want to have misplaced outrage. Attached File |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:00:04 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Case law? You mean the case of it not really being prosecuted until they went after Gen Flynn for it and other people on the right? Oh, that is right, it’s only used against the enemies of the state, meaning it is up to the prosecutors and what has been done is within the realm of what could be used as paragraph 1 of the indictment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Get with legal about that, because that’s not an understanding supported by law or case law. Case law? You mean the case of it not really being prosecuted until they went after Gen Flynn for it and other people on the right? Oh, that is right, it’s only used against the enemies of the state, meaning it is up to the prosecutors and what has been done is within the realm of what could be used as paragraph 1 of the indictment. Also see FARA, never really used until the shmuck working for Trump campaign got railroaded (but not his partner with last name Podesta). See also Biden, H. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:11:26 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Makes sense. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:19:13 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This has been the game of the state for a long time. "Dont look inward while both Dems and Reps pilfer the coffers and line their own pockets, but look at the bogie men instead." China is an asshole, but they arent our real enemy. Their economy would collapse without us buying their shit. They fuck with us like a sibling, but they need us to exist. Their state as our enemy is in how they steel American IP and do backroom deals with our politicians (both left and right). Our biggest enemies are internal and they are destroying our country. Wow this a 1999 post in a 2024 thread, we time traveling bro |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:28:44 AM EDT
[#46]
The big issue with Tenet appears to be they should have been registered FARA because of the money. It appears RT influenced them greatly and RT is Russian Propaganda. The 10 million was most of Tenet's income, that came through a front man who was invented, it was Russian money.
Evidently you can do this as long as you are registered as a FARA.  . 1A is 1A.FARA, is nothing new Foreign Agents Registration Act |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:31:40 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The big issue with Tenet appears to be they should have been registered FARA because of the money. It appears RT influenced them greatly and RT is Russian Propaganda. The 10 million was most of Tenet's income, that came through a front man who was invented, it was Russian money. Evidently you can do this as long as you are registered as a FARA. . 1A is 1A.FARA, is nothing new Foreign Agents Registration Act It doesnt look like they knew. The supposed Russians setup fake personas and companies to hide the source from the victims. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:33:43 AM EDT
[#48]
Give the truth to a fool and the lie to the most trusted man...
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:35:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesnt look like they knew. They supposed Russians setup fake personas and companies to hide the source from the victims. According to Ryan M, they should have. When they asked about the sugar daddy because Google found nothing, a fake web resume was produced. Even a GD user could smell the coffee on that one. For 10 million, I think my Google Fu would be pretty piss poor. LOL |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:39:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Not sure about all these, but one of em is a world class dirtbag.
He's also taking money from the chinese as well (many influencers are as well). Russia and China are both paying for pro and anti press on hot topics at the same time to just cause chaos. |
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