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Quoted: Not really. There are people here I prefer to not work with, and some tasks are less enjoyable than others. The people continually bitching about their jobs here are always the short-timers who'll quit or get fired anyhow so there's no need to listen to them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/80463/Screenshot_20240728-143414_png-3314594.JPG View Quote LOL, that's a good quote. I think there's been a concerted effort in the various forms of media to build up that suffering in people's heads because it's an effective "call to action" for whatever it is that the person behind it is trying to sell. |
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Wifey works retail in a national chain. The DM took every major decision from the store manager of 18 or so years. Hiring, firing, raises, etc. So now the local managers are just riding it until they retire with no GAF. They have a dude that screws off on the clock, throws tantrums, and other people have quit rather than deal with him anymore, but the DM won't let them fire him.
Corporate keeps piling on new products without hiring new staff or reducing old products while sending nastygrams about reducing OT. BTW corporate has determined that you can never get the max score on any portion of your yearly eval, and they're letting the DM roll CoL raises with performance raises and effectively reduce both. Customers treat the staff like shit, especially on senior discount day and the after-church crowd on Sunday. Oh, and corporate is opening new stores while canceling needed remodels of existing stores so things are falling apart. |
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My job is mostly what I would want to be doing in my spare time anyway. Like getting paid for a hobby.
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Been bored at mine because the last couple of months have been little to no work. Always going online to find something to do.
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Quoted: Everything sucks when Democrats steal an election and take over the country and implement their treasonous policies.. but I digress. View Quote I am not a Democrat by any stretch of the imagination but lets not pretend that the Republicans are saints. They are two sides of the same coin. They would both f*ck you over to make a dollar. |
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Quoted: (snip) ... They have a dude that screws off on the clock, throws tantrums, and other people have quit rather than deal with him anymore, but the DM won't let them fire him. (snip) View Quote This is a perfect example of lazy, pussified management. They let their fear of confrontation and short term pain rob the business of the long term gains a positive work environment creates. Never hesitate to rid your organization of dangerous, lazy, or toxic employees. Learn the HR policies, communicate to upper management, and document as necessary. This type person fires themselves if you have the balls to do your part. |
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Quoted: I like my job. But corporate has been overrun with nepotism, work from home, sycophants who are becoming increasingly insufferable & are having a shockingly negative impact on day to day operations with their endless emails, reports & trying to one up each other by cooking up “busy” work for the staff that adds nothing of value. So it probably won’t be long until I join the “my job sux!” crew. View Quote This is nothing. Wait till your area is 80% Indian. |
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Quoted: This is nothing. Wait till your area is 80% Indian. View Quote While mostly true, one of the most effective managers I have ever worked for was Indian. I never could figure out if he was from a high caste family that treated all the other Indians with contempt, or an untouchable who didn't care about the higher caste Indians, but he valued only job performance. I never saw him favor an Indian over anyone else. He was one of the most color blind people I have ever known. |
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Quoted: While mostly true, one of the most effective managers I have ever worked for was Indian. I never could figure out if he was from a high caste family that treated all the other Indians with contempt, or an untouchable who didn't care about the higher caste Indians, but he valued only job performance. I never saw him favor an Indian over anyone else. He was one of the most color blind people I have ever known. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This is nothing. Wait till your area is 80% Indian. While mostly true, one of the most effective managers I have ever worked for was Indian. I never could figure out if he was from a high caste family that treated all the other Indians with contempt, or an untouchable who didn't care about the higher caste Indians, but he valued only job performance. I never saw him favor an Indian over anyone else. He was one of the most color blind people I have ever known. Agree, my last boss was a British born Sikh. Worked for him for 10 years and he was great. Am friends with him still. MOST are not like that. Hell there are articles on Linkedin written by Indians on how to be a sycophant. Right on Linkedin: Sycophancy - The Indian Coaching Manual If you want to find out their cast ask one of the AI engines which caste the name belongs too and it will tel you. |
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Quoted: People quit managers, not jobs. MBAs are the soul sucking force of our economy. Would you like to make widgets? I think I could make widgets! Could you work (schedule)? Sure I could work that schedule! Men tend to find fulfillment in work, whether you're painting cars or fixing pipes or manning artillery. People are being trained to shun that, "personnel is your #1 expense" and other such nonsense. MBAs can measure every metric except humanity. And adopt every shitty Japanese flow theory they just read a book on. But they can't be bothered to ask you what your job entails, what's easy, and what's difficult. This disconnect in how work is actually completed, how people are fulfilled, how profits are made, and how customers are retained, is the single biggest force making people miserable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I love the job Hate the fucking people Quoted: I like my job, just hate the management team. People quit managers, not jobs. MBAs are the soul sucking force of our economy. Would you like to make widgets? I think I could make widgets! Could you work (schedule)? Sure I could work that schedule! Men tend to find fulfillment in work, whether you're painting cars or fixing pipes or manning artillery. People are being trained to shun that, "personnel is your #1 expense" and other such nonsense. MBAs can measure every metric except humanity. And adopt every shitty Japanese flow theory they just read a book on. But they can't be bothered to ask you what your job entails, what's easy, and what's difficult. This disconnect in how work is actually completed, how people are fulfilled, how profits are made, and how customers are retained, is the single biggest force making people miserable. This^ x 2. |
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Quoted: Agree, my last boss was a British born Sikh. Worked for him for 10 years and he was great. Am friends with him still. MOST are not like that. Hell there are articles on Linkedin written by Indians on how to be a sycophant. Right on Linkedin: Sycophancy - The Indian Coaching Manual If you want to find out their cast ask one of the AI engines which caste the name belongs too and it will tel you. View Quote In all the years I can’t fill up one hand competent Indian leaders and it’s not for a lack of exposure. I do find they can be incredibly focused individuals but they do not do well in diverse working groups, this is why they gravitate to hire/recruit other Indians particularly within their cast. Of course they see nothing wrong with this and are quite open about it because to them, it’s completely normal. |
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Quoted: Lots of bad management out there now. I could write a book. View Quote Indeed. The worst thing about my job is my manager. He gets poorly reviewed in company evaluations by his employees, is confrontational with our customers, berates other department’s employees and leadership won’t terminate him. I’m sure it’s in no small part to him being a member of the DEI protected class… |
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Where I am at. I do my job and I am left alone. I'm good with mine!
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High inflation, low raises, ‘pizza parties’, lazy management, passive aggressive, low output individuals, falsified credentials, “process updates”, “strategic projects”, constant desk shuffling, taking credit for other people’s work. I could keep going on and on about mine.
For some reason COVID really changed things in the culture at my work. |
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I don’t *love* my job, but the environment is relaxed and none of my bosses try to micromanage me. It could be far worse.
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I'm retired, but I liked the job I had last. My wife is disabled and needed me home.
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Taking credit for someone else's work is another toxic management practice.
As a manager I am supposed to build, train and coach my team to excellence. When I give a team member praise and credit for excellent work it reflects well on me anyway. Why any manager would want to take credit for his team's work is incomprehensible to me. It demoralizes his team, destroys morale, and creates enemies. All of which are stupid and self destructive things to do. Edit to add: I have my current job because a guy that used to work for me called me and asked me to interview for an open position at another company. If I had screwed him by taking credit for his work, I would never have gotten that call. Build allies in your career field, not enemies. Becoming the "go to guy" is easy. Help people out when they come to you for help, and help them advance their own careers. Over a 30 year plus career it will pay dividends. |
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I'm agnostic towards my job, most of the ones I've had, really. They pay me to work. There's always a positive somewhere. Exploit those and it won't be that bad until it's time to look for a new one.
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Quoted: People under estimate the value of that extra day off. I suspect your job problems would fix themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just curious, but could you do a 4 10 schedule? After working that I absolutely hate the 5 day work week. People under estimate the value of that extra day off. I suspect your job problems would fix themselves. 3 12s are even better. |
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Quoted: I don't *love* my job, but the environment is relaxed and none of my bosses try to micromanage me. It could be far worse. View Quote I met my direct supervisor once in the last two years, our contact is basically email/text, and it's generally "this place needs x, y, z, you able to get it on whatever day?". I tell him where I went and what I did, all good. Zero micromanaging. If I get stuck in traffic or just want to sleep in a little longer, I don't have a start time. As long as it's reasonable, no one will nitpick me over 5 minutes. I have usually no coworkers, I'm by myself most of the time. If I'm not, I'm training someone. The autonomy is incredible. Even my bad days are... perfectly fine. I haven't dreaded coming to work in quite a while. |
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Quoted: I've literally lost count of how many "my job sucks so fucking bad anymore" conversations that various people have started with me over the past few months. It has become a VERY common topic of conversation. FWIW, my job sucks ass lately as well. I also know several DECENT, hardworking, and experienced people who've recently lost their jobs. What's going on out there? View Quote Most other people are just angry because the Biden Bucks gravy train was turned off and now they have to actually go into the office. My job my job. Parts of it suck. Some days I hate it. It is what it is. With the current labor nether, done oriole dull discover there is something worse than a sucky job: no job. |
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I love my.job, I just hate the technologically impaired.
If I can learn how to: Fix my Car Build Computers/Troubleshoot/Etc Build ARs Learn how to reload All on YouTube or the Internet. There is no fucking excuse for other people's ignorance when they have a smart phone on them at all times. Instead of watching something stupid like baseball/football, use that time to learn a damn skill that you suck at. |
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I absolutely hate my job. 10-12hrs a day, 5-6 days a week working with an increasing number of idiots.
Those who said it was COVID are probably on to something. The workforce at my job was 90% in 2020. It's been in the high 60s to low 70s since '21. We have an incredibly high turnover rate due to the mandatory overtime and increasingly inexperienced workforce. Which brings me to another aspect of post-2020 jobs: DEI. A (black) coworker is friends with someone in regional. He claims his friend told him corporate is on management about diversifying our workforce. It shows. We get women whom can't physically do the job. People whom speak little to no English. People with only fast food as their work experience and are completely lost in semi-skilled manufacturing. And then the majority of the new-hires in their 20s, regardless of ethnicity or gender, can't stop dicking with their phones while they're supposed to be working. |
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Do they hate their job, or have they just been demoralized? You have people busting their asses to barely make a living while everything quickly goes up in price thanks to inflation, and then they see all these assholes on social media and places like Onlyfans making millions barely doing anything. Not to mention all the C-suite crews raking in gigantic bonuses for these companies that treat their workers like absolute shit. It just sucks.
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I don't hate my job. I strongly dislike that it pays so little, but I love my job.
And if I'm being honest, if I hustled more I could get more produced = more pay, though it's still gonna be less than working an entry level job with the blue hairs at Amazon. |
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I don't think anyone can be 'happy' with their work unless they are doing something that they like. This could be anything - it could be an uber driver or food deliverer. I think the liquor delivery job could be very cool - you could meet a hundred chicks a week who want to drink and party. Or it could be something of a higher order - in the 'career' category. There are so many kinds of services that people need today - everything from handyman to IT services. Its like people used to find a niche - a 'trade' sometimes or just a niche, like 'Engineering Assistant' for example, and they would work their way up.
But if you just go to some place every day to get a check on Friday, God help your ass because you're never going anywhere but down. |
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The day I could retire after 37 years in healthcare, I did.
When the numbers added up to where I could draw as much as I made, it was time to go. I was 59 & 1/2. So yes, I hated the last few years. |
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Quoted: Here is my take. 1) companies going "wokeish" catering to the new pc/liberal/woke mindsets. The company's themselves make this an issue in the workplace by openly supporting those movements, examples are the support of the covid agenda, and having specific stuff in the workplace promoting support of lgbtq, and (insert here) movements. All this does is alienate the gold that just want to come to work and do a job. Not have to deal with that stuff. And what I've seen as well is it creates a weak management structure...on to #2 2) weak management. To much manageing and not enough leadership. And the management is catering to the stuff from #1. Where i work this is prevelant from upper management and h.r. And the average worker over the age of 35 is not impressed. To much blanket reaction to stuff. Lazy workers cause issues, and everyone has to deal with with the piss poor solution (again weak managment) or the good workers are treated the same as the lazy ones which demoralizes the good people. 3) blanket reactions. Employee A does something stupid, is lazy etc etc... to fix this, rather than deal with the person (train them, correct the bad behaviour etc) they make a new corporate policy that applies to everyone. Again.. demoralizing the people that just want to go on and do their jobs without B. S. 4) the newer generations of workers coming in that are lazy (because they have never had to work, don't know how to work, or have to, but don't want to be there) are catered to by management, (see 1-3) which demoralizes others. Ive seen a lot of examples of this, I've seen good folks either quit, get fired, or retire earlier than they planned due to ask if the above. If it wasn't for the paycheck i would be out of here. I just try to come in do my job and go home, leaving work at work. View Quote 5) management can't or won't lead, so new employees join the team and the people with a dump truck load of work on their desk are now expected to "mentor" and train new people and somehow get all their work done too. So the new employee gets just enough training to be dangerous then handed work without vetting their skills, and the trainer/ mentor is even more burnt out and pissed off at their "manager". The new employee is then struggling to accomplish projects because of gaps in training and becomes frustrated and pissed off. I've been on both sides of that shitty equation. |
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Part of it is that people are tired. Tired of always barely meeting ever-increasing expectation, tired of always being told they are on a losing team, tired of going in to work every day without best foot forward and being told it’s not enough.
On top of that: America is the country that holds the world up and that happens with long work weeks and high output. Europeans get a month of every year, free healthcare. and paternity leave for the men while we fund their national defense by working a million hours of overtime. Then on top of them we work extra hard so that welfare rats can surf the couch on mailbox money… The recent shifts in society’s opinion about work means that the producers get squeezed even harder as the ones that Opt Out or Soft Quit make others around them pull the boat by themselves….. Then there are management and business decisions that are mistakes. I like my company and job, but they recently made some decisions that backfired on them and I’m tired of hearing about how “we” are dealing with a challenging business environment after being forced to take bad contracts so a subsidiary could get some gravy. That mistake was bad enough that people had to be laid off-but never the people making the mistakes and bad decisions. I retire in 11-14 years and Can. Not. Wait. for other people’s problems to be Other People’s Problems and to not be gaslit about how we suck. |
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Quoted: Everything sucks when Democrats steal an election and take over the country and implement their treasonous policies.. but I digress. View Quote Because I was going to say exactly this. I'll add I just have an overall feeling of "who gives a sh*t anymore?" My country is being dismantled, our citizens replaced, every company is woke, and piece of sh*t politicians and "elites" are gorging on any remains they find. |
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Quoted: You left one out: 5) management can't or won't lead, so new employees join the team and the people with a dump truck load of work on their desk are now expected to "mentor" and train new people and somehow get all their work done too. So the new employee gets just enough training to be dangerous then handed work without vetting their skills, and the trainer/ mentor is even more burnt out and pissed off at their "manager". The new employee is then struggling to accomplish projects because of gaps in training and becomes frustrated and pissed off. I've been on both sides of that shitty equation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is my take. 1) companies going "wokeish" catering to the new pc/liberal/woke mindsets. The company's themselves make this an issue in the workplace by openly supporting those movements, examples are the support of the covid agenda, and having specific stuff in the workplace promoting support of lgbtq, and (insert here) movements. All this does is alienate the gold that just want to come to work and do a job. Not have to deal with that stuff. And what I've seen as well is it creates a weak management structure...on to #2 2) weak management. To much manageing and not enough leadership. And the management is catering to the stuff from #1. Where i work this is prevelant from upper management and h.r. And the average worker over the age of 35 is not impressed. To much blanket reaction to stuff. Lazy workers cause issues, and everyone has to deal with with the piss poor solution (again weak managment) or the good workers are treated the same as the lazy ones which demoralizes the good people. 3) blanket reactions. Employee A does something stupid, is lazy etc etc... to fix this, rather than deal with the person (train them, correct the bad behaviour etc) they make a new corporate policy that applies to everyone. Again.. demoralizing the people that just want to go on and do their jobs without B. S. 4) the newer generations of workers coming in that are lazy (because they have never had to work, don't know how to work, or have to, but don't want to be there) are catered to by management, (see 1-3) which demoralizes others. Ive seen a lot of examples of this, I've seen good folks either quit, get fired, or retire earlier than they planned due to ask if the above. If it wasn't for the paycheck i would be out of here. I just try to come in do my job and go home, leaving work at work. 5) management can't or won't lead, so new employees join the team and the people with a dump truck load of work on their desk are now expected to "mentor" and train new people and somehow get all their work done too. So the new employee gets just enough training to be dangerous then handed work without vetting their skills, and the trainer/ mentor is even more burnt out and pissed off at their "manager". The new employee is then struggling to accomplish projects because of gaps in training and becomes frustrated and pissed off. I've been on both sides of that shitty equation. #5 is exactly what my wife is going through at her firm. They are hiring tons of recent grads to replace people with experience. So now the experienced people left are "mentoring" the new hires, fixing their F-ups, and having to do their own work on top of it. |
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I've definitely noticed a lot more passive aggressive "Stop bothering me" attitudes these days, mostly from service workers whose job it is to smile and take care of the customer.
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Quoted: I’m guessing many are tired of the price of groceries doubling or tripling but pay remaining relatively unchanged in the last few years. I know that is my issue. I went from what I thought was a great job to one that just keeps my family afloat in the course of a few years. Hard to stay positive.. View Quote I'm sort of trapped in the same situation. Job doesn't pay anywhere near what I was making pre-layoff (2016) but ageism meant I had to take something after almost a year with dim prospects. State don't pay, raises are few and far between. Currently the "stick" is the high tech layoffs happening everywhere, (even here) and I'm two years short of hanging it all up anyway. If I manage to hang on for two more, I might get a little help with the healthcare but that's it, haven't and won't be here long enough to qualify for any other retirement. The actual work isn't so bad, it's the "customers" and management. Co-Workers are acceptable at least. I think a lot of people are afraid to change jobs due to the economy and nobody likes feeling "trapped" without options. I also think too many people got caught up in the frenzy of the C19 hire anything that can fog a mirror phase and changing jobs could be done at the drop of a hat. |
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FMLA really screwed things up.
Useless employees can take up to 180 days off for whatever BS excuse they can think of. At my work, we have people that put in the minimum employment time to qualify, then just take a week or two off constantly for their fibromyalgia or whatever. Then the rest of us have to do their work for them until they feel like coming back. |
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I think my job is awesome ???????
ETA: my job before this one was good until it wasn’t. And while it wasn’t, it was a nightmare. |
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Quoted: I absolutely hate my job. 10-12hrs a day, 5-6 days a week working with an increasing number of idiots. Those who said it was COVID are probably on to something. The workforce at my job was 90% in 2020. It's been in the high 60s to low 70s since '21. We have an incredibly high turnover rate due to the mandatory overtime and increasingly inexperienced workforce. Which brings me to another aspect of post-2020 jobs: DEI. A (black) coworker is friends with someone in regional. He claims his friend told him corporate is on management about diversifying our workforce. It shows. We get women whom can't physically do the job. People whom speak little to no English. People with only fast food as their work experience and are completely lost in semi-skilled manufacturing. And then the majority of the new-hires in their 20s, regardless of ethnicity or gender, can't stop dicking with their phones while they're supposed to be working. View Quote In the past 4 years, all of the new hires that I've had to work with fall into three categories: black, Indian, or female. Two of the black guys are abysmal performers. One of them swung some sort of deal where management paid for him to move from Hawaii to the PNW (where he's from), or else he would quit. He comes into work three days a week, is there from roughly 10AM-2PM and leaves, because he has a 2 hour commute. Never there when he's needed, he's always conveniently left for the day. Never takes on projects outside of his scope of knowledge which appears to be small. I get handed his projects because the on site managers don't trust him to do them. The other is just as equally clueless. We did a group interview on the phone with him where he (very obviously now) lied about his level of experience and knowledge. All the shit he said he was an expert on, he fucking sucks at - yet almost four years later, he's still here. Constantly calls me with questions about shit that he should know by now - after the 2nd or 3rd time asking the same questions, you need to take some time out of your day to learn rather than expecting your hand to be held. When we get a couple of these guys in Zoom meetings together, it sounds like Kamala is there. These guys chuckle at EVERYTHING - even when a joke hasn't been said they will say something and go "heheheheheheh" back and forth at each other while everyone else is waiting to move on. The Indian guys are clueless and absent. Most work remote, I've never met them in person. They will not pursue a problem to its completion unless you constantly nag them over and over and over again. It seems like the only way to get them to take action is to humiliate them. A coworker of mine is Filipino and he's the most pissed off about these guys, calls them "DEI hires" openly. He's the most knowledgeable guy on the team and has been here 20 years, management is afraid to fire him. On a team of 6 guys, the two of us do the majority of the work. When the others call him for help, he ignores them completely now. We have one female Indian who is awesome at her job and gets shit done.. her problem is she should really be doing ASMR videos or audio books. Lady's voice is like soft velvet. I can't sit through a call without starting to fall asleep |
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Quoted: I've literally lost count of how many "my job sucks so fucking bad anymore" conversations that various people have started with me over the past few months. It has become a VERY common topic of conversation. FWIW, my job sucks ass lately as well. I also know several DECENT, hardworking, and experienced people who've recently lost their jobs. What's going on out there? View Quote I really like my job, the owner of the company and my one employee, I just hate being on call and working when I get called after hours, weekends or Holidays.. |
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I love my job. I absolutely fucking hate the person that I work for.
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I'd rather NOT be working as I am not one of those "live to work" types... but my job is hilariously awesome and funded by your taxes so what's not to like about it?
I'll do this till I retire, then I'll do something similar part time on call. |
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Told the start up and PE groups at the end of June to pound sand.
Stated new gig this week. Love it so far |
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Quoted: I swear no one even works anymore. I worked from home for a LONG time before the covid nonsense, I loved being able to go to stores during the week and they’d be empty. Now, Costco is a freaking madhouse open to close every day. View Quote This is what I think. I work graveyard so when I shop it’s early morning or early afternoon. The town is just packed. While I drive around I always think does anyone work anymore? |
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