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NE, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:02:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crashburnrepeat: It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years. Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. As if I wrote that myself. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:15:00 AM EDT
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Yep raising my daughter to not talk to or trust the police.
Wife’s already pissed that I’m teaching her “in what sound does this animal make” pig = get on the ground or hands up or I will shoot! |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:19:08 AM EDT
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Is he working for another department yet?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:21:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SamuelAdams1776: Is he working for another department yet? Of course not. He hasn’t even started the “six months of paid leave” stage yet. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:23:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Damn the ACAB list is just getting bigger. IDK about him as a cop but him as a criminal unlawfully entering a residence is 100% a bastard. So maybe All Criminals Are Bastards? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:29:02 AM EDT
[#6]
I recall Negan saying something very similar.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:47:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Parents teach your kids to not open the door for police. This If you have young kids or grandchildren tell them they're like Vampires. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:58:32 AM EDT
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Might makes right seems to be his mantra.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:00:16 AM EDT
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“The threshold is the threshold”
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:08:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: Same department? Riverside County sheriff’s deputy arrested in reported sexual assault of department volunteer Riverside County sheriff's correctional deputy with alleged ties to a Mexican drug cartel was charged with drug trafficking and possession of over 100 pounds of fentanyl Riverside County Sheriff's Department covered up deputy's 'sextortion' scheme How many murdering drug dealing rapists home invading illegal aliens released by ICE/BP still plying their trades in CONUS? A fish rots from the head down. We have turned into Mexico-Zimbabwe We will soon turn into China |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:13:03 AM EDT
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Back the blue!
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:14:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ClayHollisterTT]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: How many murdering drug dealing rapists home invading illegal aliens released by ICE/BP still plying their trades in CONUS? A fish rots from the head down. We have turned into Mexico-Zimbabwe We will soon turn into China Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: Originally Posted By BB: Same department? Riverside County sheriff’s deputy arrested in reported sexual assault of department volunteer Riverside County sheriff's correctional deputy with alleged ties to a Mexican drug cartel was charged with drug trafficking and possession of over 100 pounds of fentanyl Riverside County Sheriff's Department covered up deputy's 'sextortion' scheme How many murdering drug dealing rapists home invading illegal aliens released by ICE/BP still plying their trades in CONUS? A fish rots from the head down. We have turned into Mexico-Zimbabwe We will soon turn into China Trustworthy ETA, soon China’s totalitarianism will seem more appealing than the lawlessness throughout our entire system. One must wonder if that is part of a larger plan. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:16:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: But he had a call. Everyone knows that’s a fourth amendment exception. Oh yes! The call! |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:16:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Making cops look good again.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:19:06 AM EDT
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*Sigh*
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:20:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Making cops look good again. In six months they will determine the officer needs some additional training during overtime. If we have more accountability for their criminal behavior then nobody will be a cop. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:29:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cubsfanbudman: As if I wrote that myself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cubsfanbudman: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years. Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. As if I wrote that myself. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:35:25 AM EDT
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Then take out the trash dickhead!
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:37:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By 50cal: Have the settlement funds come from the next fiscal years budget. "Sorry guys, Officer Dumbass, through his stupidity cost the department $5.5 million because he was stupid. No OT, work week is cut back to 30 hrs per week for the foreseeable future" The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today How about, ‘Sorry, no raises this year. Your dental plan copay is now 90% and we won’t be getting any new vehicles’. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:40:31 AM EDT
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Cop is a cock sucker for intimidating a woman and child.
It's also amazing he has the most punchable face I have ever seen. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:43:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marksman14]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, Because most people who have this happen to them would rather get a check than pursue a criminal charge that won't benefit them in any way. This dude deserves both the suit and the charge. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:46:26 AM EDT
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I was at a friend's house one night with a few others, cop walks in front door. Home owner talked with him for about 2 minutes, cop was being penis. So home owner, just up and says to yhe cop "stay or go buy I'm done" he sits back down and we all ignore the cop. The cop just stands there for about 10 minutes with a pleading look on his face and then just up and leaves. Everyone there was AF and 2 of us were reserve deputies, we never did find out what the actual complaint was about. Sometimes just ignore them and they'll go away.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:46:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bollocks44]
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:47:40 AM EDT
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Makes you wonder how a cop like that handles a real problem.....
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:51:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LawyerUp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: @LawyerUp  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By lowcountrydirtrider: There are numerous exceptions to the warrant requirement, and in California they have the community caretaking function. I can see this go either way. @LawyerUp Geez, California has that? The Supreme Court should look into it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:59:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krombompulos_Michael: That’s because you were 100% correct. A resisting arrest charge cannot stand on its own. There has to be a predicate offense. Resisting arrest, aka “contempt of cop”, is way overused and dismissed frequently. interdasting. cops here have told me i’m wrong when i said resisting isn’t a charge when nothing happened before. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:09:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herewego: Get a storm door and keep it locked. Then speak to the officer through that door. Once you open the door and they cross the barrier, they will charge you with battery on a police officer if you try and bar their entry. The officer was a dick, and deserves to be fired, but he will prevail in court. 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:10:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By Herewego: Get a storm door and keep it locked. Then speak to the officer through that door. Once you open the door and they cross the barrier, they will charge you with battery on a police officer if you try and bar their entry. The officer was a dick, and deserves to be fired, but he will prevail in court. Which part do you find funny? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:13:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. Extenuating circumstances. The home is the most protected place there is. Short of extenuating circumstances, you cannot enter home. The whole fourth amendment and all. Don’t try to make excuses for this guy or play down his clear violation of the fourth amendment |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:15:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Which part do you find funny? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By Herewego: Get a storm door and keep it locked. Then speak to the officer through that door. Once you open the door and they cross the barrier, they will charge you with battery on a police officer if you try and bar their entry. The officer was a dick, and deserves to be fired, but he will prevail in court. Which part do you find funny? The prevail in court part of course. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:15:47 AM EDT
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It appears the cop is declaring home inv see a lawsuit coming and she is gonna win big. No protected immunity here.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:17:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Extenuating circumstances. The home is the most protected place there is. Short of extenuating circumstances, you cannot enter home. The whole fourth amendment and all. Don’t try to make excuses for this guy or play down his clear violation of the fourth amendment Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By fadedsun: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. Extenuating circumstances. The home is the most protected place there is. Short of extenuating circumstances, you cannot enter home. The whole fourth amendment and all. Don’t try to make excuses for this guy or play down his clear violation of the fourth amendment Consent: He obviously didn’t have that. Warrant: Not a chance he had one, Exigent circumstances: Even the normal amount of creative writing couldn’t come up with this. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:17:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Extenuating circumstances. The home is the most protected place there is. Short of extenuating circumstances, you cannot enter home. The whole fourth amendment and all. Don’t try to make excuses for this guy or play down his clear violation of the fourth amendment Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By fadedsun: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. Extenuating circumstances. The home is the most protected place there is. Short of extenuating circumstances, you cannot enter home. The whole fourth amendment and all. Don’t try to make excuses for this guy or play down his clear violation of the fourth amendment "Exigent" circumstances. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:22:52 AM EDT
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Was one of the minors wearing a "I 'heart' Sluts" t-shirt?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:26:29 AM EDT
[#35]
Cops continue to be their own worst enemy. Woman is gonna get a nice payout for this though.
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:27:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Because most people who have this happen to them would rather get a check than pursue a criminal charge that won't benefit them in any way. This dude deserves both the suit and the charge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, Because most people who have this happen to them would rather get a check than pursue a criminal charge that won't benefit them in any way. This dude deserves both the suit and the charge. Well, the people victimized by a cop would be relying on certain few government agents to pursue a criminal case. And trusting that they do it with integrity. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:28:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLD05: This thread is going away with no warrant. Yup. At a minimum, we’ll probably see a couple of timeouts. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:29:26 AM EDT
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Ya know, every time I see incidents like this where the cop is clearly in the wrong and fucks up so bad to the point of a lawsuit, I think about what the right way it should be handled.
If I were that woman, I would sue in civil court and instead of a payout, I would settle for this: Spare the tax payers the bill to compensate me. I would settle only for that cop to not only be fired, but also demand his pension/benefits be rescinded. Fuck the money, I want his retirement and his whatever benefits he spent his career working for to be stripped away completely. Making your neighbors pay for his fuck up is not going to make a difference in sending bad cops a real message. They need to start wondering if going to far will cost them more PERSONALLY than just getting fired and making the people foot the bill. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:35:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BabyGlock_27: Ya know, every time I see incidents like this where the cop is clearly in the wrong and fucks up so bad to the point of a lawsuit, I think about what the right way it should be handled. If I were that woman, I would sue in civil court and instead of a payout, I would settle for this: Spare the tax payers the bill to compensate me. I would settle only for that cop to not only be fired, but also demand his pension/benefits be rescinded. Fuck the money, I want his retirement and his whatever benefits he spent his career working for to be stripped away completely. Making your neighbors pay for his fuck up is not going to make a difference in sending bad cops a real message. They need to start wondering if going to far will cost them more PERSONALLY than just getting fired and making the people foot the bill. Best you could get is a settlement with no admission of wrongdoing. You’d need “fuck you” money to get what you want. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:36:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSGTUSAF: I was at a friend's house one night with a few others, cop walks in front door. Home owner talked with him for about 2 minutes, cop was being penis. So home owner, just up and says to yhe cop "stay or go buy I'm done" he sits back down and we all ignore the cop. The cop just stands there for about 10 minutes with a pleading look on his face and then just up and leaves. Everyone there was AF and 2 of us were reserve deputies, we never did find out what the actual complaint was about. Sometimes just ignore them and they'll go away. Just don't answer the door while holding a gun at your side. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:36:44 AM EDT
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A Puerto Rican woman would have handed him a stack of unpaid bills.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:39:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BabyGlock_27: Ya know, every time I see incidents like this where the cop is clearly in the wrong and fucks up so bad to the point of a lawsuit, I think about what the right way it should be handled. If I were that woman, I would sue in civil court and instead of a payout, I would settle for this: Spare the tax payers the bill to compensate me. I would settle only for that cop to not only be fired, but also demand his pension/benefits be rescinded. Fuck the money, I want his retirement and his whatever benefits he spent his career working for to be stripped away completely. Making your neighbors pay for his fuck up is not going to make a difference in sending bad cops a real message. They need to start wondering if going to far will cost them more PERSONALLY than just getting fired and making the people foot the bill. That's not a remedy you can get via a civil lawsuit. The taxpayers have created an environment where public employees generally cannot be fired at all, and are legally entitled to all sorts of benefits that are not capable of being taken. Not just cops. An entire free shit army of government employees at every level. In reality, it's next to impossible to even get money in a civil lawsuit, due to qualified immunity, and other reasons. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:39:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dbrowne1: I don’t understand why people open the door for strangers, let alone ones with badges. Just don’t let him in. What is he going to do, kick your door in over a noise complaint? Let him try to explain that. If the cops are at your door for a reason that’s actually bad enough to justify forcing entry, then make them do it - you’re already fucked anyway well beyond the cost of repairing your door. At 0:50 in the video, it looks like he did force his way in when the minor opened the door and (according to the text on the video) attempted to immediately close it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:00:33 AM EDT
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I'm no kind of anti-cop person, but that particular cop needs to be defunded.
Not all cops, but that one definitely needs it. He needs to find another line of work, and not bounce around departments like you hear about now and again. We need the police, doing their jobs correctly, to keep assorted assholes in check. We don't need cops to become one of them. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:06:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LawyerUp: That's not a remedy you can get via a civil lawsuit. The taxpayers have created an environment where public employees generally cannot be fired at all, and are legally entitled to all sorts of benefits that are not capable of being taken. Not just cops. An entire free shit army of government employees at every level. In reality, it's next to impossible to even get money in a civil lawsuit, due to qualified immunity, and other reasons. This is unfortunately very correct. Firing a government employee outright even with substantial cause takes many years, and the effort succeeds less than half the time. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:10:13 AM EDT
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Don't ever answer the front door unless you know its a delivery or a friend.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:10:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Parents teach your kids to not open the door for police. We dont open doors unless someone is expected. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:14:02 AM EDT
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Settlements need to be taken out of union dues and pension funds. It wouldn't be long before the union weeded out the bad apples, or buried them in the desert out past Terlinguia.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:14:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scotchymcdrinkerbean]
[#49]
Looks like an aggravated burglary under LA law to me.
ETA: To clarify, I can understand him opening the door and looking inside after the door was opened by a minor then shut (not that I would on a noise call,) but there was no reason for entry I could see, and absolutely zero reason to not be apologetic and respectful towards the adult who came to the door. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:19:41 AM EDT
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The officer was working well within the current cultural norms of the profession.
Just following training like he has for years. |
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