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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:19:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: Sternly worded letter in his file? Careful now. That is deeply held belief here on Arf. You see another cop misbehaving? All you should do is call their supervisor so that a letter can get put in their record... Or at least that's what many said the guy in Florida should have done when the other cop ran from him in a cruiser... |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:23:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BabyGlock_27: Ya know, every time I see incidents like this where the cop is clearly in the wrong and fucks up so bad to the point of a lawsuit, I think about what the right way it should be handled. If I were that woman, I would sue in civil court and instead of a payout, I would settle for this: Spare the tax payers the bill to compensate me. I would settle only for that cop to not only be fired, but also demand his pension/benefits be rescinded. Fuck the money, I want his retirement and his whatever benefits he spent his career working for to be stripped away completely. Making your neighbors pay for his fuck up is not going to make a difference in sending bad cops a real message. They need to start wondering if going to far will cost them more PERSONALLY than just getting fired and making the people foot the bill. The cop needs fired, and benefits and retirement taken away for sure. But, maybe if the taxpayers are forced to pay out enough money they will start demanding that cops be held to a Constitutional standard and this kind of stuff will happen far less often. There is no way it will ever totally go away, but maybe it become less common. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:24:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClayHollisterTT: Trustworthy ETA, soon China’s totalitarianism will seem more appealing than the lawlessness throughout our entire system. One must wonder if that is part of a larger plan. Cloward–Piven in action. AKA fuck it up so bad that people will gladly accept what rational people would reject. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:28:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LawyerUp: That's not a remedy you can get via a civil lawsuit. The taxpayers have created an environment where public employees generally cannot be fired at all, and are legally entitled to all sorts of benefits that are not capable of being taken. Not just cops. An entire free shit army of government employees at every level. In reality, it's next to impossible to even get money in a civil lawsuit, due to qualified immunity, and other reasons. You should be a lawmaker, you understand the problem. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:28:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: They’ll threaten you with misusing 911 then. Best to treat them with the same advice that police give about rapists: Don’t resist and Fixed |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:30:12 AM EDT
[#6]
This cop is apparently bored with the 4th Amendment and is going after the 3rd.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:31:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wesr228: Still waiting for the cops to do the right thing and fire his ass. They say the only thing the cops hate worse than criminals, is a bad cop. But ya know what, turns out that's horse shit and the thin blue line is more important than civil rights and integrity, every time. Her third DUI eventually went over my head to higher ups. I wanted a year in jail for her. She ended up getting the more typical 30 days jail sentence with a resignation. I participated in a few other internal affairs cases where officers were forced to resign (and were still prosecuted). Come to think of it, if anything, we gave cops harsher sentences than the rest of the public pretty much every time. Funny thing was their arrests made the news, but their sentences and ended careers never did... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:37:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean: Looks like an aggravated burglary under LA law to me. ETA: To clarify, I can understand him opening the door and looking inside after the door was opened by a minor then shut (not that I would on a noise call,) but there was no reason for entry I could see, and absolutely zero reason to not be apologetic and respectful towards the adult who came to the door. I can understand wanting to, but what would be the exigency that would legitimize entering the home even if to briefly look inside! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:40:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#9]
He'll get a letter in his file and go sit at the court house for a few months, she won't get anything or anything substantial.
"Sir, I revoke your license to be on my property, please leave." Or something to that effect, I forget the court ruling. You can legally tell LE to get the fuck off your property, unless something bad is going on. You never, ever open the door for LE and stand there and talk to them, you walk out and close the door behind you. Kids should not open the door, ever, get a parent. It looked like she had a nice rack. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:47:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: He'll get a letter in his file and go sit at the court house for a few months, she won't get anything or anything substantial. "Sir, I revoke your license to be on my property, please leave." Or something to that effect, I forget the court ruling. You can legally tell LE to get the fuck off your property, unless something bad is going on. You never, ever open the door for LE and stand there and talk to them, you walk out and close the door behind you. Kids should not open the door, ever, get a parent. It looked like she had a nice rack. Even going outside removes constitutional protections. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:52:24 AM EDT
[#11]
LE investigating their own wrongdoing is akin to taco bell sanitation being scrutinized/penalized by only their own corporate paid team of health inspectors.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:08:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bollocks44]
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:10:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I can understand wanting to, but what would be the exigency that would legitimize entering the home even if to briefly look inside! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean: Looks like an aggravated burglary under LA law to me. ETA: To clarify, I can understand him opening the door and looking inside after the door was opened by a minor then shut (not that I would on a noise call,) but there was no reason for entry I could see, and absolutely zero reason to not be apologetic and respectful towards the adult who came to the door. I can understand wanting to, but what would be the exigency that would legitimize entering the home even if to briefly look inside! Not saying I would, just that I could forgive it from a legal standpoint if he said "I knocked, a minor opened the door then seemed frightened and shut it again, so I tried the door, it was unlocked, so I opened it for a quick visual scan to see if something appeared amiss." As I said, especially being a loud noise complaint, I would have assumed said minor was going to fetch an adult and just waited. (Who am I kidding, I worked in New Orleans; if no noise on a noise complaint, [super likely given that the response would be hours or the next day due to call volume,] I wouldn't have knocked on anyone's door in the 1st place and just marked it up and moved on to the next call.) 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:17:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: I hope you are trolling, otherwise this is the stupidest comment I have read all week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: Originally Posted By lowcountrydirtrider: Yes, am aware, but every case is unique. Was the child at the door in distress, prompting officer to enter to investigate? interestingly, both are true here |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:18:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 103: It can be really hard to fire a cop due to civil service rules depending on the state, county, municipality. I once prosecuted a cop for her third DUI, and she was IN HER PATROL CAR. She had been previously fired for the last on-duty DUI, but she got her job restored through civil service rules and an appeal. No one. I mean NO ONE in the agency wanted her there. Her third DUI eventually went over my head to higher ups. I wanted a year in jail for her. She ended up getting the more typical 30 days jail sentence with a resignation. I participated in a few other internal affairs cases where officers were forced to resign (and were still prosecuted). Come to think of it, if anything, we gave cops harsher sentences than the rest of the public pretty much every time. Funny thing was their arrests made the news, but their sentences and ended careers never did... Yep. This one is still employed despite being charged for beating someone on the job, then falsifying report to over charge him. https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/assault-charge-against-sergeant-marks-historic-first-in-spokane-county-sheriffs-office/293-2a4341c4-1737-49e4-99d4-01ad96b7fed4 |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:20:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stevelish: This cop is apparently bored with the 4th Amendment and is going after the 3rd.  Attached FileBigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:21:22 AM EDT
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Those cops minds have become parasitic too, just like the crazy "I can't breathe", "do not touch me" folks..
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:25:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Let’s see how many officers line up to throw him under the bus, file charges, arrest him and send him off to prison. Let me guess 0. Back the blue is gone. And qualified immunity needs to be done away with so fast it’s ridiculous. true dat. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:41:20 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Damn the ACAB list is just getting bigger. “It’s irresponsible to post videos like these incidents that are intentionally taken out of context to put LEO’s in a bad light. It only creates division and makes the good cops job even harder and more dangerous.” Or something similar that I’ve read in GD. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:45:37 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgeline001: Lol. Back when I was younger, then I would reply to this kind of BS with a middle finger and laugh. Or a " Bitch please" to your face knowing that you would not do shit on your own to a man standing up for himself, family, or home. Now. I honestly just laugh in my own home knowing that there with always be cunts that feel they need to run their dick licker in life because they were mouthy lil fuks and got their head shoved into a toilet bowl in HS and deserved it. Sometimes GD is worth the entertainment. A little work and this has the potential to be the worlds greatest copy pasta. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:47:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Yep. This one is still employed despite being charged for beating someone on the job, then falsifying report to over charge him. https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/assault-charge-against-sergeant-marks-historic-first-in-spokane-county-sheriffs-office/293-2a4341c4-1737-49e4-99d4-01ad96b7fed4 Stay classy Spokane |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:56:52 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Great. Now what should happen to t this officer in your opinion? I don't think he's implying that the officer was in the right just making a statement. I think dude should be fired. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:57:35 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: Parlaying a noise complaint into a 3rd amendment violation, I'd give him points for creativity. I'd like to see a modern day quartering challenge. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:58:19 AM EDT
[#24]
Oh, it's YOUR home? Go start vacuuming, clean the bathrooms, take out the trash, do the dishes and mow the lawn bitch.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:02:12 PM EDT
[#25]
It's rather simple, those who are armed make the rules.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:06:01 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wesr228: Still waiting for the cops to do the right thing and fire his ass. They say the only thing the cops hate worse than criminals, is a bad cop. But ya know what, turns out that’s horse shit and the thin blue line is more important than civil rights and integrity, every time. American decay will only see more tribal activities...Cops aren't immune to human nature. Of few more ticks down on the ecconomy and its going to be third world law enforcement out there. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:06:47 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: It's right there in the Constitution for Pete's sake! The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, except if someone complains about loud music. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Originally Posted By Nightstalker32:Loud music is the exception? Lol wtf. And he " owns their house"? He can get fked The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, except if someone complains about loud music. Abraham Lincoln always said, "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. Except conspiracy theories. That shit'll kill you."
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:07:09 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crashburnrepeat: It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years. Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. Anarcho tyranny |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:11:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: I don't think he's implying that the officer was in the right just making a statement. I think dude should be fired. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Great. Now what should happen to t this officer in your opinion? I don't think he's implying that the officer was in the right just making a statement. I think dude should be fired. I get that. I’m just curious on his opinion of how the officer should be punished for his illegal and unconstitutional actions. A day off and retraining on overtime? Fired? Criminally charged? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:14:32 PM EDT
[#30]
If there were extenuating circumstances they were completely absent in that video. Nor did it appear he would have been addressing them in a safe manner.
I am willing to bet that guy just forced his way into that home without any warrant or any extenuating circumstances and refused to exit. After being told to do so several times by multiple occupants. At this point it appears this little Fife is acting as if he is the law. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:14:33 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Your1Savior: The moment he turns into an armed invader in someone's private home he ceases to be a cop and is a threat to that family's lives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Your1Savior: Originally Posted By Mikhail_86: [Deleted]I deleted this. Don't make implied threats v police Aimless The moment he turns into an armed invader in someone's private home he ceases to be a cop and is a threat to that family's lives. Nope. You can't even expect a cop to stop a violent felony when the attacker is another cop. Expecting cops to stop a violent felony is a bannable offence here. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:17:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By 50cal: Have the settlement funds come from the next fiscal years budget. "Sorry guys, Officer Dumbass, through his stupidity cost the department $5.5 million because he was stupid. No OT, work week is cut back to 30 hrs per week for the foreseeable future" The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today Incorrect. You have stated yourself on multiple occasions that the police can be ordered to not enforce the law or answer calls. Nothing they can do about it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:21:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Koa]
[#33]
This shit is all so tiresome. Conversing with the officer in an adult mature manner solves all of this unnecessary drama.
ETA: I hope she gets paid. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:22:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: This shit is all so tiresome. Conversing with the officer in an adult mature manner solves all of this unnecessary drama. She said she was willing to talk to the officer outside and he insisted on remaining inside the house with no lawful authority. She was nicer than needed to an armed home invader. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:23:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: This shit is all so tiresome. Conversing with the officer in an adult mature manner solves all of this unnecessary drama. And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:25:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Why would he not? What repercussions is he likely to face? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:32:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lil_Sig]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Why would he not? What repercussions is he likely to face? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Why would he not? What repercussions is he likely to face? Because training is that. ""If"" a crime had been committed that gave him the authority to enter the home without a warrant. He is trained to take control of the scene. He is clearly abusing his position and acting beyond the bounds of the law. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:33:07 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By Koa: This shit is all so tiresome. Conversing with the officer in an adult mature manner solves all of this unnecessary drama. And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too This right here. He says it’s his home, I’ll answer with “get the fuck out of my house right now, motherfucker”. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:34:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Why couldn’t this tiny peckered little wannabe Hitler have just said “we got a call about too much noise. Can you keep it down?”
This guy is mentally unstable. Everything that occurred in that video comes down to him escalating the situation. His refusal to leave the house was escalation. His inflammatory statements, such as “I own your house” was escalation too. When she stupidly suggested that her dog would bite him, he told her to have the dog bite him. More escalation. What do you guys think he would’ve done if the dog came at him? He probably would’ve drawn his weapon and killed the dog right in front of the family. This fucking cocksucker needs to have his career ended immediately, before he murders someone. And anyone who defends his behavior is probably just as much of a fucking psycho as he is. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lil_Sig: Because training is that. ""If"" a crime had been committed that gave him the authority to enter the home without a warrant. He is trained to take control of the scene. He is clearly abusing his position and acting beyond the bounds of the law. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lil_Sig: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Why would he not? What repercussions is he likely to face? Because training is that. ""If"" a crime had been committed that gave him the authority to enter the home without a warrant. He is trained to take control of the scene. He is clearly abusing his position and acting beyond the bounds of the law. And the taxpayers will suffer for it. But what repercussions is he likely to face? The government has built a system with no effective negative feedback loop so we shouldn’t be surprised when it goes awry. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:36:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealBluedog: Why couldn’t this tiny peckered little wannabe Hitler have just said “we got a call about too much noise. Can you keep it down?” This guy is mentally unstable. Everything that occurred in that video comes down to him escalating the situation. His refusal to leave the house was escalation. His inflammatory statements, such as “I own your house” was escalation too. When she stupidly suggested that her dog would bite him, he told her to have the dog bite him. More escalation. What do you guys think he would’ve done if the dog came at him? He probably would’ve drawn his weapon and killed the dog right in front of the family. This fucking cocksucker needs to have his career ended immediately, before he murders someone. And anyone who defends his behavior is probably just as much of a fucking psycho as he is. Keep what down? The Ring audio didn’t capture excessive noise. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:37:17 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Parents teach your kids to not open the door for police. Also to lock the screen once everyone is in for the night. I hope the judge gives the cop an extensive ass chewing, focused on how wrong his thinking is. Let that shit become public record. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:37:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. What are they going to hide? The noise? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JellyBelly: Also to lock the screen once everyone is in for the night. I hope the judge gives the cop an extensive ass chewing, focused on how wrong his thinking is. Let that shit become public record. Oh no, not an ass chewing, |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:38:28 PM EDT
[#46]
Armed intruder.
AZ allows the defense of yourself against unlawlful law enforcement action iirc. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:39:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Damn the ACAB list is just getting bigger. About as big as the "defend all cops" regardless list... maybe the cops should police themselves and things like this wouldn't happen? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:40:47 PM EDT
[#48]
This is how you respond to LEs at your door! (warning: definitely not safe for work if your audio is on)
 Angry woman yells and cusses out cops over Ring camera |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaggy: Lol Caniglia v Strom Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaggy: Originally Posted By lowcountrydirtrider: There are numerous exceptions to the warrant requirement, and in California they have the community caretaking function. I can see this go either way. Lol Caniglia v Strom Well at least provide some explanation. The “community caretaking” exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement, described in Cady v. Dombrowski, 413 U.S. 433 (1973), does not extend to the home. Justice Clarence Thomas authored the unanimous opinion, holding that police officers’ seizure of the petitioner’s guns from his home violated his Fourth Amendment right against warrantless searches and seizures. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:49:35 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Because it’s inflammatory. |
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