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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:52:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Coffin-Nail]
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Until they face accountability that doesn't emanate from a courtroom society's faith in law enforcement will continue to decline. With a severe lack in judgment this obvious, leadership in the department should immediately suspend this guy, then put him before a review board that refers any negative findings to a POST complaint meant to remove people not cut out to be an officer from the ability to ever be one in the future. Beyond removing QI that's the only thing that might restore some of the lost confidence. I know it's wishful thinking, this broken system of letting shitbag officers move from department to department will continue.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Yep. This one is still employed despite being charged for beating someone on the job, then falsifying report to over charge him. https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/assault-charge-against-sergeant-marks-historic-first-in-spokane-county-sheriffs-office/293-2a4341c4-1737-49e4-99d4-01ad96b7fed4 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By 103: It can be really hard to fire a cop due to civil service rules depending on the state, county, municipality. I once prosecuted a cop for her third DUI, and she was IN HER PATROL CAR. She had been previously fired for the last on-duty DUI, but she got her job restored through civil service rules and an appeal. No one. I mean NO ONE in the agency wanted her there. Her third DUI eventually went over my head to higher ups. I wanted a year in jail for her. She ended up getting the more typical 30 days jail sentence with a resignation. I participated in a few other internal affairs cases where officers were forced to resign (and were still prosecuted). Come to think of it, if anything, we gave cops harsher sentences than the rest of the public pretty much every time. Funny thing was their arrests made the news, but their sentences and ended careers never did... Yep. This one is still employed despite being charged for beating someone on the job, then falsifying report to over charge him. https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/assault-charge-against-sergeant-marks-historic-first-in-spokane-county-sheriffs-office/293-2a4341c4-1737-49e4-99d4-01ad96b7fed4 Hinton was finally fired on September 3. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:58:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Cultural decay.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackFox: This is how you respond to LEs at your door! (warning: definitely not safe for work if your audio is on)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s73lmudpLygBest thing I've seen all day! A tyrant's worst nightmare is a citizen who knows their rights |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:59:52 PM EDT
[#5]
"They opened the door and then ran from me..."
Predators chase prey. LE should not be PREDATORS. Give him a job more suited to his temperament... filling tampon dispensers in men's locker rooms. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:59:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: I hope you are trolling, otherwise this is the stupidest comment I have read all week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: Originally Posted By lowcountrydirtrider: Yes, am aware, but every case is unique. Was the child at the door in distress, prompting officer to enter to investigate? I see you are new here. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brownbomber: Cultural decay. We are overdue to hear that this is the public’s fault. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plank_Spanker: I see you are new here. Also, please don’t get this locked for calling people trolls. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elvis121: "Hello, 911? There's an armed home invader in my living room who won't leave, I'm in fear for my life." Truly, call 911. Anyone can dress up in the manner such as that guy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: This is actually a pretty good case for the cop to get QI denied. He absolutely 100% violated her Constitutional right on purpose and actually defended his authority to do so when called on it. It also seems like a good cause for SCOTUS to rethink QI entirely, especially the cutoff point in the 80s. Video changed everything. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:19:46 PM EDT
[#11]
Are these the same police that do not owe you individual protection under the law?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:23:06 PM EDT
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I once had a false alarm that a cop showed up for. He ran my ID on the front porch which matches the address and called in to check for warrants. He refused to leave even though I told him what happened and everything was fine. He would not go until I let him come inside and shout that he was police and for any hiding intruders to show themselves. A real asshole.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QwikKotaTx: I once had a false alarm that a cop showed up for. He ran my ID on the front porch which matches the address and called in to check for warrants. He refused to leave even though I told him what happened and everything was fine. He would not go until I let him come inside and shout that he was police and for any hiding intruders to show themselves. A real asshole. He could stand on the porch all night if that’s what he wanted to do. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:30:40 PM EDT
[#14]
 Cop is dick |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:32:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By bdy83: And when the officer fails to leave your home because "it's his home now"? I'd be pissed too That line was idiotic. Why would he say that! Cause he's an idiot. She should have grabbed her property tax statement and handed it to him, and sat down to watch TV and ignored him. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:32:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chris_in_TX]
[#16]
If this kind of thing ever happens to me, I'm going to demand the officer's badge and duty pistol as part of the settlement.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:33:07 PM EDT
[#17]
what a shock....ethnic with accent behaving ike a shithead totalitarian cocksucker from his own shithole...
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sierradyne: I thought vampires were supposed to ask permission to enter a home?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sierradyne: Originally Posted By StarJumper: Cop is investigating a noise complaint. Cop rings the doorbell, kids answer door, they realize a cop is standing on the porch and so they run to get their mother. Officer proceeds to open the door, invites himself in the house and refuses to leave when asked to leave. Homeowner demands cop leaves, cop says he owns the house if he is standing inside and that he doesn't have to leave. At what point is the cop an armed home invader? What could possibly justify this thinking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGooi1JJUgI thought vampires were supposed to ask permission to enter a home? You have to invite them in |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:37:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Why do people even have front doors?
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:40:12 PM EDT
[#20]
This is easy. If a cop comes to your door and knocks. Don’t answer it.
Even if they want to arrest you, you don’t have to answer. Just don’t answer the door people. Even if they know your inside. Now if they have a warrant, their going to force their way in and their not going to sit there and knock. Their letting themselves in. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mech2007: See? Now I know that Extorris was a cop and roughly where. I trust his perspective. Apparently the guy who caused his retirement got nothing, too. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: This shit is all so tiresome. Conversing with the officer in an adult mature manner solves all of this unnecessary drama. ETA: I hope she gets paid. Damn, someone tell the home owners that during armed burglaries they should just have an adult conversation with the intruders and it will solve everything! Why haven't they been telling people about this? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackFox: This is how you respond to LEs at your door! (warning: definitely not safe for work if your audio is on) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s73lmudpLygThat's a thing of beauty right there! |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:01:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: Parlaying a noise complaint into a 3rd amendment violation, I'd give him points for creativity. Wait.... I thought cops were civilians. You are now saying he is a soldier? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:02:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowcountrydirtrider: There are numerous exceptions to the warrant requirement, and in California they have the community caretaking function. I can see this go either way. Nope. Noise wouldn't go that way alone. You would have to show abandonment or something else, which isn't the issue here. Community caretaker is all over and not just a CA thing. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Until they face accountability that doesn't emanate from a courtroom society's faith in law enforcement will continue to decline. With a severe lack in judgment this obvious, leadership in the department should immediately suspend this guy, then put him before a review board that refers any negative findings to a POST complaint meant to remove people not cut out to be an officer from the ability to ever be one in the future. Beyond removing QI that's the only thing that might restore some of the lost confidence. I know it's wishful thinking, this broken system of letting shitbag officers move from department to department will continue. There is more accountability now than ever. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: There is more accountability now than ever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Until they face accountability that doesn't emanate from a courtroom society's faith in law enforcement will continue to decline. With a severe lack in judgment this obvious, leadership in the department should immediately suspend this guy, then put him before a review board that refers any negative findings to a POST complaint meant to remove people not cut out to be an officer from the ability to ever be one in the future. Beyond removing QI that's the only thing that might restore some of the lost confidence. I know it's wishful thinking, this broken system of letting shitbag officers move from department to department will continue. There is more accountability now than ever. What punishment do you predict he’ll receive? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tactical_Jew: Why do people even have front doors? I kinda don’t. Back of the house faces the driveway and there’s a gate. No doorbell. So visitors get to yell from the gate and hope the dogs or I take notice. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:14:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UV18]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: What punishment do you predict he’ll receive? It will depend on their matrix and the priors. I would love to see the bodycam and call details to get an accurate picture, but that is a serious escalation of stupidity over a call where nothing would be done anyways. I would get a max suspension and mandatory training absent additional factors in his history that would be a terminable offense. And you have very solid case law about entering a residence for a crime and even the community caretaker option. Agency will get sued over it OR just settle and be done. ETA- Ya, he needs to be canned for it. Listening to every part again surely justifies none of the actions. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:18:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: It will depend on their matrix and the priors. I would love to see the bodycam and call details to get an accurate picture, but that is a serious escalation of stupidity over a call where nothing would be done anyways. I would get a max suspension and mandatory training absent additional factors in his history that would be a terminable offense. And you have very solid case law about entering a residence for a crime and even the community caretaker option. Agency will get sued over it OR just settle and be done. ETA- Ya, he needs to be canned for it. Listening to every part again surely justifies none of the actions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: What punishment do you predict he’ll receive? It will depend on their matrix and the priors. I would love to see the bodycam and call details to get an accurate picture, but that is a serious escalation of stupidity over a call where nothing would be done anyways. I would get a max suspension and mandatory training absent additional factors in his history that would be a terminable offense. And you have very solid case law about entering a residence for a crime and even the community caretaker option. Agency will get sued over it OR just settle and be done. ETA- Ya, he needs to be canned for it. Listening to every part again surely justifies none of the actions. Accountability.  That’s a pretty sweet deal for breaking into someone’s house and kidnapping them. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:21:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StarJumper]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: What punishment do you predict he’ll receive? This video is so bad, I mean it's all bad. There have been worse and nothing happened. This tyrant was probably worse, he got fired but got rehired and is still a cop. He walked into their home, beat people for raising their voice to him and did everything possible to these poor people including breaking the homeowners hand, he didn't even get prosecuted.  West Virginia State Trooper Wiseman assaults home owner I doubt anything happens to this guy... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarJumper: This video is so bad, I mean it's all bad. This tyrant was probably worse, he got fired but got rehired and is still a cop. I doubt anything happens to this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR5cRjdTTr4Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarJumper: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: What punishment do you predict he'll receive? This tyrant was probably worse, he got fired but got rehired and is still a cop. I doubt anything happens to this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR5cRjdTTr4 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:31:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StarJumper]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By parshooter: Have they figured out what caused his home to burn up yet?  Attached FileCouldn't have happened to a more a deserving person, he is an absolute scumbag... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:04:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Accountability. That’s a pretty sweet deal for breaking into someone’s house and kidnapping them. Now go back in time. You would have seen nothing happen prior to the 90s. Something "maybe in the 90s". Likely in the 00s. Yes in the 10s. And more likely to be fired and charged in the last decade. The good ol' days were full of little to no oversight. Training sucked. And violations were accepted as SOP. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:09:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chris_in_TX: If this kind of thing ever happens to me, I'm going to demand the officer's badge and duty pistol as part of the settlement. I would sue for $1 and his post certificate |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:13:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SmilingBandit]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Now go back in time. You would have seen nothing happen prior to the 90s. Something "maybe in the 90s". Likely in the 00s. Yes in the 10s. And more likely to be fired and charged in the last decade. The good ol' days were full of little to no oversight. Training sucked. And violations were accepted as SOP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Accountability. That’s a pretty sweet deal for breaking into someone’s house and kidnapping them. Now go back in time. You would have seen nothing happen prior to the 90s. Something "maybe in the 90s". Likely in the 00s. Yes in the 10s. And more likely to be fired and charged in the last decade. The good ol' days were full of little to no oversight. Training sucked. And violations were accepted as SOP. I totally get that back before cameras cops could lie with impunity, it’s just amusing that someone would think having to buy a new uniform shirt counts as accountability for illegal and unconstitutional actions. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: elmanotejas]
[#37]
Hand him a dish rag and tell him to do the dishes then take out the fucking trash and the mortgage payment is due.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:41:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bollocks44]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgeline001: Careful painting with a broad brush. When I was in my mid twenties I knocked the complete dog shit out of an off duty cop. Marked him for life too. |
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FM, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:01:24 PM EDT
[#39]
If the cop owns my house, then he should pay the mortgage.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:02:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LawyerUp: That's not a remedy you can get via a civil lawsuit. The taxpayers have created an environment where public employees generally cannot be fired at all, and are legally entitled to all sorts of benefits that are not capable of being taken. Not just cops. An entire free shit army of government employees at every level. In reality, it's next to impossible to even get money in a civil lawsuit, due to qualified immunity, and other reasons. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LawyerUp: Originally Posted By BabyGlock_27: Ya know, every time I see incidents like this where the cop is clearly in the wrong and fucks up so bad to the point of a lawsuit, I think about what the right way it should be handled. If I were that woman, I would sue in civil court and instead of a payout, I would settle for this: Spare the tax payers the bill to compensate me. I would settle only for that cop to not only be fired, but also demand his pension/benefits be rescinded. Fuck the money, I want his retirement and his whatever benefits he spent his career working for to be stripped away completely. Making your neighbors pay for his fuck up is not going to make a difference in sending bad cops a real message. They need to start wondering if going to far will cost them more PERSONALLY than just getting fired and making the people foot the bill. That's not a remedy you can get via a civil lawsuit. The taxpayers have created an environment where public employees generally cannot be fired at all, and are legally entitled to all sorts of benefits that are not capable of being taken. Not just cops. An entire free shit army of government employees at every level. In reality, it's next to impossible to even get money in a civil lawsuit, due to qualified immunity, and other reasons. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:04:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NYresq1]
[#41]
Woman is going to get paid.
Cop is going to be driving a desk for a while, while its being investigated. Depending on size of department, he will either be transferred to another division/precinct after the public anger cools off, OR he will be allowed to retire/resign and seek employment elsewhere with a nice letter from his chief recommending him, and saying what a great guy he is. He should, but wont be fired for this incident, unless he gets caught in a lie during the investigation. Which, if he is as stupid as he appears to be, he may be dumb enough to lie and forget. The department will announce a "training initiative to educate their cops on new ways to engage the neighborhoods and people they serve to promote better understanding of problems and issues in their patrol areas...." |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:19:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmanotejas: Hand him a dish rag and tell him to do the dishes then take out the fucking trash and the mortgage payment is due. He'd dump a magazine into you when you tried to hand it to him because "based on his experience and training he perceived a threat." |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:25:46 PM EDT
[#43]
If qualified cops cannot be hired,
then barely qualified cops will be hired. If barely qualified cops cannot be hired, then unqualified cops will be hired. If Americans will not apply, then foreigners will be hired. And they will not come from countries where the rights of the people are respected. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:31:43 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today But it will cut back on the amount of officers on the street. "Everyone gets 30 hrs per week. No exceptions." "We're low on funds, have to cut back. No money for fuel. Walk." |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Oh no, not an ass chewing,  “I’ve been chewed-out before.” |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:44:05 PM EDT
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As a law abiding citizen, I know I've done nothing wrong. By that logic, I will automatically assume that any uninvited (warrantless) entry to my home is a simple mistake and the offender will be told to leave in very clear language. Something like "I did not call/invite you inside. You are trespassing, leave immediately". There is no discussion, failure to comply immediately upgrades the offender to an armed intruder. Thoughts and prayers will be sent up, but since no action will be taken while the armed intruder's empty hands are in front of their chest/body cam, the last image on the cam will be of me yelling "GUN!" before the armed intruder is dealt with.
Again by that logic: In the unfortunate event of a "no knock", I'll have to assume they are home invaders and some-many won't leave. Gangs have adopted the tactic of wearing tactical gear and yelling "POLICE!!", so no amount of identification will stop the incoming fire. It would definitely cost me "the ride" (eventually, after I've consulted with my attorney which would happen before I even called to report the attack) and likely cost me a fair bit of money. Both would be worth it and the mistake wouldn't happen again, one way or the other. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:47:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elvis121: "Hello, 911? There's an armed home invader in my living room who won't leave, I'm in fear for my life." Continuing, "He is impersonating a police officer." |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:49:23 PM EDT
[#48]
What a fuckin retard. Fuck that guy.
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USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:50:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StarJumper: At what point is the cop an armed home invader? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGooi1JJUgI'd rather make it a very large payday. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QwikKotaTx: I once had a false alarm that a cop showed up for. He ran my ID on the front porch which matches the address and called in to check for warrants. He refused to leave even though I told him what happened and everything was fine. He would not go until I let him come inside and shout that he was police and for any hiding intruders to show themselves. A real asshole. "Well officer I guess you're going to be here for a while." *slam* |
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