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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas high schools need billion dollar football stadiums and soft tracks. West Texas stadiums need lots of irrigation. On the other hand 22% sales tax will keep Californians out. May actually draw more in. My NV family was shocked at the property taxes after their first year of living in Texas. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:01:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:02:26 PM EDT
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If sales tax goes up to 22%, maybe we'd go from a consumer economy to one where quality matters more,then 22% for something you're buying that's going to last way way way longer isn't such a bad deal and not having to pay property tax means you actually own your property, which is a really big deal.
Economically this would cause people to move to Texas, and that may or may not be a good deal, but it would be a big boom in business and property values would increase without coming with a burden of having to pay the government every year. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:06:11 PM EDT
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At the very least they should fix property tax rates on the primary residences of people over 65 living on fixed income. Too many folks worked and paid property tax on their homes all their lives only to get taxed out of it when they retire.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:08:08 PM EDT
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This video may explain why....
Short explaination: Taxing authorities are playing games with property assessments and ripping people off in Texas and possibly a county near you.  Bombshell Report Reveals Government Conspiracy To Defraud Homeowners |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:08:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the very least they should fix property tax rates on the primary residences of people over 65 living on fixed income. Too many folks worked and paid property tax on their homes all their lives only to get taxed out of it when they retire. I think they do but up the resident to do so. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:09:55 PM EDT
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What gets me in regards to the schools is that despite the truckloads of money they get, they're always asking for more directly from the parents. God forbid your kid wants to be in the High School band too...you'd better be ready to fork out thousands more.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:24:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take "Things Highly Unlikely to Happen in Texas" for $500 Alex... Until the State of Texas develops serious plan to find a sustainable replacement for that revenue stream, as in perhaps either a huge hike to State Sales Taxes & Fees and / or a Texas State Income Taxes, neither of which are likely to be approved by a majority of voters. Bigger_Hammer  I'd rather pay a higher income tax than property tax. Probably better for society as well. Most of the poulation rents and are too stupid to realize that property taxes are part of their rent. It's hidden from them. With an income tax everyone sees it on their paystub when stolen from or on a receipt of a sales tax. Also the very idea of the state stealing your property if you don't give them money forever even if you aren't earning any money is evil. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:34:51 PM EDT
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A 5% property tax rate would keep me from even considering a move to Texas.
The shock factor from the concept of a 22% sales tax shows just how out of control government spending really is. That they would be stunned by the number shows how infantile their thinking is about economics. Revenue doesn't have to come from only sales tax. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:38:52 PM EDT
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I don't buy the 22% figure. Does that account for all the illegals coming through and buying things? suddenly they're paying! Does it account for the hundreds of millions of dollars of property tax enforcement across the state that would be saved? I paid my property off years ago, but still have never owned it. that needs to stop now. And yes, it is a wealth tax based on the value of my property as assigned by a backwards asshat.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Renters could benefit. I'm a nice landlord. If I have $10,000 less in property taxes per year, I'd pass some of that savings on to my tenants. I did the same last year. when they raised the property taxes I explained to the tenants and raised the rent. when they lowered the property taxes with the buy down, i explained to the tenant and lowered the rent. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: School tax is the killer. They build 80-90 million dollar stadiums while STEM programs starve. The problem is the people voting yes on the stadium bonds and then bitching about their property taxes. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:45:04 PM EDT
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Property tax is easily manipulated.
Decrease assessment in bad parts of town. Increase assessments in nice areas. The welfare sheeple end up getting supported even more. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:45:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be final blow to the auto industry in Texas. We're already paying 6.25% on new and used vehicles (minus allowances for trade ins). Imagine if that were 20%. $70k pickup jumps to $84K. However, you would be paying less property tax. You would have the money. GEEZE. Math is hard. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will never happen unless they replace it with state income tax. Government still needs their $2. They approved no more passenger vehicle inspections but we'll still get billed that fee in the registration fee  WHAT? Does no one in this site have any economic schooling. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:48:06 PM EDT
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Make parents responsible for educating their kids....get rid of state-funded schools....they do a shitty job anyway.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:50:03 PM EDT
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The monster has to eat.
Never as simple as just eliminating taxes 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:51:57 PM EDT
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How much tax revenue are other states making off Marijuana? Just throwing it out there.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the very least they should fix property tax rates on the primary residences of people over 65 living on fixed income. Too many folks worked and paid property tax on their homes all their lives only to get taxed out of it when they retire. They already do that What they need to do now is have that fixed value transfer to heirs so people can build some generational wealth. This is what CA does |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This will NEVER happen in Texas. It would be waaay to beneficial to too many people…  Our county would never give up their fleecing of the public. Property Tax is their cash cow. It's almost as much a month as my freaking mortgage payment to save money to pay for city, ISD and school property tax. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:03:38 PM EDT
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I’ll take my property taxes as long as there’s no state income tax
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:05:02 PM EDT
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The millions of illegals in the state don’t pay taxes on anything.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The millions of illegals in the state don’t pay taxes on anything. But they sure can cook, clean, and mow. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:06:59 PM EDT
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While I’d love to stop paying property taxes I’d even be happy if they were just indexed to inflation rather than capped at the 8 to 10% increase each year currently.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:18:35 PM EDT
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There was a time I would’ve considered living in east Texas but I personally know someone in central Texas who eventually couldn’t afford to live in the home she built because the school districts exploded in size and numbers along with the numerous near college level high school sports facilities needing a never ending supply of money through bond after bond.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take "Things Highly Unlikely to Happen in Texas" for $500 Alex... Until the State of Texas develops serious plan to find a sustainable replacement for that revenue stream, as in perhaps either a huge hike to State Sales Taxes & Fees and / or a Texas State Income Taxes, neither of which are likely to be approved by a majority of voters. Bigger_Hammer It's a prelude to instituting a personal income tax. Of course, what'll happen instead is we'd get both. They're not getting rid of property tax, lol. Best I could see is dropping the ad valorem rate. Maybe. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop spending so much. Start seizing assets and accounts of illegals. We already auction off abandoned vehicles. Do that with their businesses, cars and houses. What?! And force donors to then pay higher wages for labor? You communist! Why do you hate the free market? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:30:15 PM EDT
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If they must keep the taxes, eliminate the seizure and auction powers. Just put a lien on the property for back taxes so that if you want to sell, you have to pay off the lien first. Also put a cap on the total lien amount about at 25% of the appraised value.
That way you can keep property in the family forever without fear of losing it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:34:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas high schools need billion dollar football stadiums and soft tracks. West Texas stadiums need lots of irrigation. On the other hand 22% sales tax will keep Californians out. Waxahachie, here I come! |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:41:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Property taxes wouldn’t be that big of a deal if I wasn’t sending so much money to Washington DC Well other than the ability of the county tax appraisal idiots to jack property values every year and claim your house is worth insane amounts more than it is. You then have to jump through all kinds of hoops and spend a bunch of money to try to get them to knock a few bucks off it. Bunch of money hungry bastards. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:47:49 PM EDT
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If I was king for a day, it would be eliminating property taxes but only for childless taxpayers and retirees.
Put the burden for paying for schools, buses, and etc. on the people who create that burden - parents. Watch them start caring about what their kids' school spends. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But have you heard of the sad state of affairs that is Texas high school football stadiums? Some of them are multiple years old, and don't even seat 30,000 fans. A few years ago my local ISD held a several million bond election to redo the stadium along with some other stuff. None of it addressed our declining academic score. Citizens voted it down. I'll be damned if the mother fuckers didn't "find" a million dollars to turf the field anyway after the bond failed. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:50:19 PM EDT
[#33]
22% sales tax will lead to a huge uptick in "family road trips".
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:52:16 PM EDT
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I’m guessing the House is a guaranteed no vote or there’s something else that’s going to make up the difference.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:55:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A 5% property tax rate would keep me from even considering a move to Texas. The shock factor from the concept of a 22% sales tax shows just how out of control government spending really is. That they would be stunned by the number shows how infantile their thinking is about economics. Revenue doesn't have to come from only sales tax. Where do we have a 5% property tax rate? I know rates can vary a lot but 5%. My property tax rate is just a shade over 2%. My nephew is outside of Houston and his tax rate is about 3.1%. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:56:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Freedom? I doubt it.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:00:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well other than the ability of the county tax appraisal idiots to jack property values every year and claim your house is worth insane amounts more than it is. You then have to jump through all kinds of hoops and spend a bunch of money to try to get them to knock a few bucks off it. Bunch of money hungry bastards. Those high valuations would not be achievable without the federal gov meddling in banking. Fear of discrimination lawsuits strongarm banks into financing risky mortgages. My mom took out a 30 year note when she was 68 years old. If the banks were more accountable to the bottom line instead of hurt feelings then nonsense like that wouldn’t happen. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:03:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Real estate values will rise rapidly if this happens.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:14:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Charge a 100% tax on the remittance the illegals send home.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:31:16 PM EDT
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Local news did a story about making up the revenue loss with casinos
I'm in the higher sales tax, no property tax camp. A good first step would be over 65, no property tax. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do we have a 5% property tax rate? I know rates can vary a lot but 5%. My property tax rate is just a shade over 2%. My nephew is outside of Houston and his tax rate is about 3.1%. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A 5% property tax rate would keep me from even considering a move to Texas. The shock factor from the concept of a 22% sales tax shows just how out of control government spending really is. That they would be stunned by the number shows how infantile their thinking is about economics. Revenue doesn't have to come from only sales tax. Where do we have a 5% property tax rate? I know rates can vary a lot but 5%. My property tax rate is just a shade over 2%. My nephew is outside of Houston and his tax rate is about 3.1%. It’s not the rate, it’s the valuation that kills you. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:42:29 PM EDT
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But .. does the .gov get taxed on purchases? Land? Etc..?
It's a literal perpetual spending machine.. and can only be killed if nuked from orbit. No one is taking away the theft of your money.. "they" have just heard enough bitching about this particular tax so now they'll drum up another sleight of hand. Shiny red ball bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This video may explain why.... Short explaination: Taxing authorities are playing games with property assessments and ripping people off in Texas and possibly a county near you.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZK2a8e9gqAThere’s a thread on that - https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/TEXAS-Massive-Fraud-Exposed-that-Appraisal-Districts-Impose-on-Texas-Property-Owners/5-2746505/?page=1 |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:45:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 22% sales tax will lead to a huge uptick in "family road trips". Lol, exactly......move to a nice small town near another state’s border that has a decent shopping district. It wouldn’t be hard to game it. People near me do it on gas. It’s a dime or more cheaper per gallon on average across the state line. When gas prices go up in NYS it’s even better to buy out of state. NYS taxes percentage per dollar spent on gas not a tax of x cents per gallon. NY loves it when your gas goes up, they get a surplus for their slush funds. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not the rate, it’s the valuation that kills you. Exactly,.....they game it on screwy valuations. It did not used to be so phony and cut throat. It used to be assessments were manually reevaluated every ten years or upon a sale. Now it’s annual and they go to great lengths to pad their numbers. With the dollar inflation and stupid market it’s hard to stop it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:52:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are school districts allowed to set their own taxes in TX or do they need to pay off the city counsel to vote for an increase? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Property taxes are not as much of a problem as counties and school districts running rates up like crazy. It's "the governing body of a taxing unit". A taxing unit can be a city, a county, a metro area, a school district, a municipal utility district, a water control and improvement district, etc. Each of them has the authority to set their own tax rate, subject to state approval maximums or local election approval. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:58:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  simple, higher sales tax!rat bastards here want 10%. Ten bloody percent! 4% state 1% county 5% local I like it, everyone pays. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:08:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A few years ago my local ISD held a several million bond election to redo the stadium along with some other stuff. None of it addressed our declining academic score. Citizens voted it down. I'll be damned if the mother fuckers didn't "find" a million dollars to turf the field anyway after the bond failed. It's a Christmas miracle! 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:11:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is the people voting yes on the stadium bonds and then bitching about their property taxes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: School tax is the killer. They build 80-90 million dollar stadiums while STEM programs starve. The problem is the people voting yes on the stadium bonds and then bitching about their property taxes. When they did that shit in my area, they worded the bond proposal to mislead people into thinking it would be a small increase in taxes that ramped up slowly over a few years, but what they hid in the fine print was that each year's ever greater tax increase was a cumulative multiplier on top of each previous year's increase. The bond passed. Taxes went to the fucking moon. The AAAA school got an awesome $80M stadium though. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:15:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Sales tax is high enough already in this state and it's 8.25% not 6.25. Just regulate property taxes by capping it and property values so counties can't constantly jack up property values every year with no justifications. Fuck taxes.
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