1911

Still in very popular use in its mostly basic form today aside from updates improving control surfaces or changing caliber.

The trigger is the gold standard to this day

The short action tilting barrel is also the standard for pistol actions. 4 out of 5 modern auto loading pistols use tilt-barrel actions… and the 1 out of 5 that doesn’t is either an overly complicated German abomination, novelty gun, or shit blowback.

Own multiples of both.  Both good designs in their day but both have been surpassed by later efforts.  I'm not a huge Glock fan but there's no denying it has left both the 1911 and the Hi-Power in the dust.  That's not a criticism of either design, it's just the normal  improvement of a mechanical devise over time.

Captain America does not speak metric!

You're not wrong.

I voted 1911 because I love them, always have.

my CZ TSO, and Shadow 2 feel better, grip better, come out of the holster incredibly (ones not to fair as it's a race holster never one you would actually ever wear) get on point/target better are recoil babies being all metal and unfortunately are far more accurate than I will ever be.  They are my favorite pistols

Get both.

The BHP is the optimal sizing to a pistol. It’s crazy to me that near 100 years later the firearms industry rediscovered that fact with the  P365Xl and Glock 48

1911, truly revolutionary when it was introduced, and still viable today in updated form.

Will Glocks and other more recent designs still be relevant 113 years later?

Maybe you’re trying to be funny, but this overrated pistol sucked so bad, hardly anywhere made, it’s no longer in production, and even though the patents have long since expired, not even the turks will copy it. If it’s so great, why isn’t it in production? Pretty much every other gun being disgusting this thread is still in production.

P226

Between the two, I greatly prefer the 1911.  I can’t say I’ve ever shot an HP that had a great trigger…

First gen Walther P99.

Bingo.

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Who won all 4 world wars?
Checkmate, Eurofags.

I see what you did there, and I recognize it as some of your best work.

Checkmate the magazine manufacturer?

HKP7

They did eventually. It's called the FNX-45.

JM Browning had to be a time traveler.

This seems pretty objectively incorrect.

The G17 showed up in 1982.

The S&W Sigma didn't happen until 1994 (M&Ps appeared in 2005), the P99 showed up in 1997, the HS2000 (XD) didn't show up until 1999, the PT 24/7 didn't show up until 2004, etc.

It basically took almost 20 years for serious Glock inspired pistols to show up.

Numerous striker guns existed before Glock, and numerous double stack guns existed before Glock. The one thing Glock brought to the table was a commercially successful polymer frame, and it took quite some time to demonstrate it was durable.

Is the Glock an extremely influential and historically important handgun? Yes.

Does Glock's polymer frame outweigh the development of the short recoil system upon which basically every semiauto pistol outside of Beretta is based? I would argue no.

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I voted Hi-Power by the way.

@Sputnik556

First off, let's talk heritage. The 1911 is the battle-hardened granddaddy of all modern handguns. It’s been around longer than most of us have been alive, and it doesn’t need flashy new tricks or Italian aesthetics to make an impression. The Beretta 92? Sure, it's sleek, it's shiny, it’s the pistol your rich uncle brags about at Thanksgiving. But the 1911? That’s the pistol that your great-grandfather carried through two world wars and probably used to crack a Nazi’s skull when he ran out of ammo.

Speaking of ammo, can we please talk about the .45 ACP? The 1911 doesn’t mess around with those dainty 9mm rounds like the Beretta 92 does. If you want to scare someone with the sound of your weapon alone, rack that 1911 slide and let the .45 speak for itself. It’s like a sledgehammer compared to a butter knife. With the 1911, you don’t have to double-tap—because that sucker isn’t getting back up.

Reliability? The 1911 is like that old pickup truck that’s never been washed, but it’ll start every time and get the job done, no questions asked. The Beretta 92? Look, it might work fine at the range when it’s freshly cleaned and lubed, but good luck when it’s dirty, wet, or when you’ve got a little dust in the chamber. The 1911? It'll keep firing, come rain, mud, or Armageddon.

And let’s not even get started on the trigger. The 1911’s trigger pull is as smooth as a Sinatra ballad, while the Beretta 92’s double-action feels like pulling a piano up a hill. If you want precision, accuracy, and a trigger you’ll dream about at night, you go 1911. The Beretta’s trigger is decent, sure—if you enjoy second place.

Look, I get it, the Beretta has 15+ rounds in the mag, but that’s because you’re gonna need 15 rounds with that anemic 9mm. Meanwhile, with the 1911, you’ve got seven rounds of "I don't have time for your nonsense." Less is more when each shot feels like you’re firing mini-cannonballs.

In the end, the 1911 is the Clint Eastwood of pistols—old, grizzled, and not here for your modern excuses. The Beretta 92 is the equivalent of a Euro sports car: flashy, fancy, and a little too proud of itself. Sure, it’s nice on a Sunday drive, but when the chips are down and you need something dependable, you’ll be reaching for that good ol’ slab of American steel every time.

Dan Wesson DWX

It combines the best attributes of the 1911 with the best attributes of the CZ75.

Shut it down this thread is done. Poll fail

Beretta 92

Greatest = 1911
Most Elegant = Hi-Power

Hi-Point

The USP.

Whatever it was, it was probably too expensive to mass produce and was never made.

If you want to talk about greatest ever man produced, what price range?

Taurus TX 22.

This.

Serious.

Fucked up not buying one of these stupid masters degree Attached File

HK P7

I'm tempted to agree, but I have to defer to St Browning's 1911. The heart of Gaston's miracle gun is Browning's lockup action. Glock was a purely practical engineer. It still mystifies me on how he dreamed that action up. Pure genius.

Glock

Colt SAA

1911, HK USP, or Beretta 92 would be my vote. Depending on the metric you go by. The USP is probably the longest service life pistol ever made if Federal's is anything to go by.

Greatest as in most game changing, or geeatest as in best available?

For the former, it's probably one of the old revolvers. Going from muzzle loading to 6 (or 5) rounds on tap is probably the single biggest jump. After that, maybe the Borschsardt, or however the fuck you spell it.

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