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Who is the go to for a barrel chop and profile for a RECCE build lately? Seems both D.Wilson and Adco are not offering it now.
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Is the Corncob still the only way for a delta clone? I finally have my S&B short dot. But no corn cob as of now.
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I've been thinking about getting one of these to make it simple
15.1" Thoroughbred Armament Company RECCE Starter Kit They sell the barrels individually too. |
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Originally Posted By McCarron: I've been thinking about getting one of these to make it simple 15.1" Thoroughbred Armament Company RECCE Starter Kit They sell the barrels individually too. View Quote That's not a bad backup, but I was going to get a 416 chopped for the AEM5. Not anytime soon but maybe this time next year. |
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Were there previous issues with lilja 17in recon barrels having gaped gas ports? Mine is gauging .091, supposed to be .080
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
MI, USA
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: D.Wilson mentioned the back and forth between himself and the customer for one job was too time consuming. View Quote I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ The time and labor it takes to get to the point to realize your garbage barrel cant be contoured for an AE collar is not free. But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By Omega9000: D.Wilson mentioned the back and forth between himself and the customer for one job was too time consuming. I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ Attached File No way would I open up a firearm related business now days. Years ago I had an opportunity to invest into an AR manfacture local to me. I say manufacturer but really more of a parts assembler who made their own billet uppers and lowers. Anyways, I thought about it for half of a second before I remembered how much of a pain in the ass some people are. I passed. I am not built for customer service. Now days it is even worse. I read a post on here the other day from a guy who after shooting his pistol it was showing wear. He seemed to think that because it was $1,200 pistol it shouldn’t show wear. He was wanting to send it back to the manufacture to be refinished. Gotta look right for the gram I guess. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ The time and labor it takes to get to the point to realize your garbage barrel cant be contoured for an AE collar is not free. But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ View Quote Thanks for clarifying. Could you mitigate these issues by only accepting AE collar work to a select few barrel manufacturers? |
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: Thanks for clarifying. Could you mitigate these issues by only accepting AE collar work to a select few barrel manufacturers? View Quote That would eliminate 90% of the barrels we get, and no one would follow directions and send their $159 nitrided barrels anyhow. It's a no win situation. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ The time and labor it takes to get to the point to realize your garbage barrel cant be contoured for an AE collar is not free. But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ View Quote @bigbore so are ya doing contours and cut'n threads or ya out big dawg?? |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/crazykat-330.gif @bigbore so are ya doing contours and cut'n threads or ya out big dawg?? View Quote We're doing them every day. If you want a fast turnaround follow directions! Here's a list of do's and dont's If you want it cut "at the mark on the barrel" - Tell us if that's the shoulder or the muzzle. If you want it cut "at the masking tape on the barrel" - Tell us at which end and if that indicates the shoulder or the muzzle. Don't tell us you want the collar shoulder close to the end of the rail. YOU mark the barrel to show us were the you want the collar. And don't send all the parts and expect us to assemble it, disassemble it to figure out where you want the collar for free - we will, but you have to order the disassemble and reassemble services. Don't tell us you want the can close to the rail then get pissed when your barrel comes back 15 3/4" long. My machinist is a machinist. He's not a member of ARFCOM, he doesn't have an instagraam. He doesn't know what something is supposed to look like after it's assembled. He just does the machine work. Think about what you order so you don't get back what you asked for instead of what you wanted. ETA: If you're sending a barrel for an AE contour that is already threaded the rule starting today is if the threads are .003 concentric and less we will do the job. Anything beyond that you will be charged $40 for checking the threads and the barrel will be sent back on your dime unless you want it shortened and rethreaded. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: We're doing them every day. If you want a fast turnaround follow directions! Here's a list of do's and dont's If you want it cut "at the mark on the barrel" - Tell us if that's the shoulder or the muzzle. If you want it cut "at the masking tape on the barrel" - Tell us at which end and if that indicates the shoulder or the muzzle. Don't tell us you want the collar shoulder close to the end of the rail. YOU mark the barrel to show us were the you want the collar. And don't send all the parts and expect us to assemble it, disassemble it to figure out where you want the collar for free - we will, but you have to order the disassemble and reassemble services. Don't tell us you want the can close to the rail then get pissed when your barrel comes back 15 3/4" long. My machinist is a machinist. He's not a member of ARFCOM, he doesn't have an instagraam. He doesn't know what something is supposed to look like after it's assembled. He just does the machine work. Think about what you order so you don't get back what you asked for instead of what you wanted. ETA: If you're sending a barrel for an AE contour that is already threaded the rule starting today is if the threads are .003 concentric and less we will do the job. Anything beyond that you will be charged $40 for checking the threads and the barrel will be sent back on your dime unless you want it shortened and rethreaded. View Quote Not gonna lie. I plan on sending a barrel to you next month and I was planning on doing this exact thing to make sure you know where I want it cut and where the shoulder should be. |
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Your painted rifle is ugly, but I’m uglier, so send it to me and I’ll make it look good!
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What if we don't know where to have it cut? Like I have no idea where to cut to fit an Ops Collar assembly on a 416 14.5
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: What if we don't know where to have it cut? Like I have no idea where to cut to fit an Ops Collar assembly on a 416 14.5 View Quote If you have a 14.5" 416 barrel and you send it in for an AE contour/collar, and your threads are no more than .003 eccentric we will send back a 14.5" 416 barrel ready to mount your AE suppressor. If you have a 14.5" 416 barrel and you send it in for an AE contour/collar, with a note you want it cut to 12.5" we will send back a 12.5" 416 barrel with concentric threads ready to mount your AE suppressor. The issue is with people whose main concern is aesthetics for their instagram page, not functionality. Give us a barrel length and that's what you'll get back. last week someone used the term "credit card thickness" as a unit of measurement. Don't do that. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: What if we don't know where to have it cut? Like I have no idea where to cut to fit an Ops Collar assembly on a 416 14.5 View Quote Math is not hard. If you have your upper and another SPR cut barrel simple math can give you exactly what you need. The machine shops job is to machine what the customer asks for. Not to do more work than what they are being paid for. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I don't blame him a bit. Customers today are overwhelmingly whiny bitches who treat every interaction like a social media post. My last google review is from one of those whiny bitches complaining that we sent his barrel back without any work being done. His cheap ass barrel was so off center there was no way we were going to put a contour on it for an AE can. Not only is the world full of whiny bitches, but they are cheap fuckers as well. The AR market is flooded with cheap garbage barrels. We changed the AE contour service requirements to read that we only will contour and install a collar on barrels that we threaded at the same time. Maybe 3 out of 10 people read the directions. Most will send in a threaded barrel that is the length they want anyhow. They cry when we tell them it has to be shortened. People need to remember when the MK12 with the 12th model was released, it was Douglas barrel contoured and threaded by Gene Barnett. In that configuration for the military, everything is ideal. 87% of the buyers today are buying cheap shit so they look good on Instagram. Check this cheap ass barrel out. The threads are cut concentric to the bore. The bore is .021 off center from the OD. Do you know what a concentric to the threads .010 shoulder looks like barrel that is .021 off center from the OD? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPsf_6nyyAQ Some are so off center you actually see the pin bouncing up and down. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjr1-ES1laQ The time and labor it takes to get to the point to realize your garbage barrel cant be contoured for an AE collar is not free. But yes, we are still doing the work for now- https://adcofirearms.com/shop/gunsmithing/contouring/contour-allen-engineering-collar/ View Quote Fuck. Yes. Post of the year right here. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: We're doing them every day. If you want a fast turnaround follow directions! Here's a list of do's and dont's If you want it cut "at the mark on the barrel" - Tell us if that's the shoulder or the muzzle. If you want it cut "at the masking tape on the barrel" - Tell us at which end and if that indicates the shoulder or the muzzle. Don't tell us you want the collar shoulder close to the end of the rail. YOU mark the barrel to show us were the you want the collar. And don't send all the parts and expect us to assemble it, disassemble it to figure out where you want the collar for free - we will, but you have to order the disassemble and reassemble services. Don't tell us you want the can close to the rail then get pissed when your barrel comes back 15 3/4" long. My machinist is a machinist. He's not a member of ARFCOM, he doesn't have an instagraam. He doesn't know what something is supposed to look like after it's assembled. He just does the machine work. Think about what you order so you don't get back what you asked for instead of what you wanted. ETA: If you're sending a barrel for an AE contour that is already threaded the rule starting today is if the threads are .003 concentric and less we will do the job. Anything beyond that you will be charged $40 for checking the threads and the barrel will be sent back on your dime unless you want it shortened and rethreaded. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/crazykat-330.gif @bigbore so are ya doing contours and cut'n threads or ya out big dawg?? We're doing them every day. If you want a fast turnaround follow directions! Here's a list of do's and dont's If you want it cut "at the mark on the barrel" - Tell us if that's the shoulder or the muzzle. If you want it cut "at the masking tape on the barrel" - Tell us at which end and if that indicates the shoulder or the muzzle. Don't tell us you want the collar shoulder close to the end of the rail. YOU mark the barrel to show us were the you want the collar. And don't send all the parts and expect us to assemble it, disassemble it to figure out where you want the collar for free - we will, but you have to order the disassemble and reassemble services. Don't tell us you want the can close to the rail then get pissed when your barrel comes back 15 3/4" long. My machinist is a machinist. He's not a member of ARFCOM, he doesn't have an instagraam. He doesn't know what something is supposed to look like after it's assembled. He just does the machine work. Think about what you order so you don't get back what you asked for instead of what you wanted. ETA: If you're sending a barrel for an AE contour that is already threaded the rule starting today is if the threads are .003 concentric and less we will do the job. Anything beyond that you will be charged $40 for checking the threads and the barrel will be sent back on your dime unless you want it shortened and rethreaded. So there ya go all and whoever said ADCO was out! They're still in now get ya shit right as for me fuckkkkkkk I got my CLE's................... |
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Who is everyone using for their barrel now since CLE is out?
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Originally Posted By bigbore: If you have a 14.5" 416 barrel and you send it in for an AE contour/collar, and your threads are no more than .003 eccentric we will send back a 14.5" 416 barrel ready to mount your AE suppressor. If you have a 14.5" 416 barrel and you send it in for an AE contour/collar, with a note you want it cut to 12.5" we will send back a 12.5" 416 barrel with concentric threads ready to mount your AE suppressor. The issue is with people whose main concern is aesthetics for their instagram page, not functionality. Give us a barrel length and that's what you'll get back. last week someone used the term "credit card thickness" as a unit of measurement. Don't do that. View Quote The issue on this one is a little more nuanced/complex. In the cloning world (what this thread is dedicated to) we're often trying to copy setups that were done inside small units by small barrel shops / armorers. And all we have to go on is pictures / aesthetics. For the 416 barrel specifically, it's a difficult one to specify for a machinest because we don't neccessarily have specifications, dimensions or diagrams to work off of, all we have is pictures and a base knowledge of the system. With the 416, it's more about where the collar sits than a specific barrel length. So it's like we want to index everything off of exactly where the collar should be, but that's a hard thing to specify for a machinest because we can't test fit the collar without the front section of the barrel being turned down first. It's almost like it needs to happen in 2 operations. And then, you mix in all the whacky 416 clone barrel profiles that have come out (Brownells I'm looking at you), different collar lengths that are on the market (by sometimes even different manufacturers) and whether or not the barrel is concentric and it basically just makes the machinest's life hell for that particular build. But we're also stuck as consumers with not really having a lot of options or the ability to sit down with the machinest and discuss it in person so everything is clear. It's a tricky project to describe with masking tape and typed out text. From what I can tell, the 416 project only really works if you follow a specific receipe: 1. ONLY use a genuine HK416 14.5" barrel or Nefarious Arms 14.5" HK416 barrel. These are the only 2 barrels that I'm aware of that have the correct M203 cut and profile to work specifically for this recipe. No MR556 barrels, no Nefarious barrels that are other lengths/profiles, no brownells barrels, etc… The HK barrel is obviously the best one, but given its price and rarity, it can be difficult for people, so the Nefarious is the next best option. 2. Use ONLY a short collar made by Ops Inc. / Allen Engineering. 3. The collar on AR-15 builds would normally rest up against a small shoulder machined into the barrel profile. However, on these 416 builds, it looks like what was done is the collar instead rests up against the taper behind the M203 cut. So the front section of the barrel needs to be turned down in order to slide the collar on first. Once that happens, you can slide the collar on and twist it a bit to "score" the barrel with a small mark to you can see exactly where on the taper the shoulder inside the collar sits. 4. Once you have that little mark from the collar on the barrel, you can then measure the exact length to cut the barrel. Basically everything needs to be indexed off of that mark. But we can't create that mark until the barrel profile up front gets turned down first. IIRC it's 2.4" from the collar shoulder but I could be remembering that wrong. This kind of thing is extremely difficult to explain to gunsmith shops over email. Especially ones that are unfamiliar with the Ops Inc. system in the first place. Steve, your shop is the best on the planet for this type of stuff IMO, but I've always been nervous about sending this particular project in to you guys specifically for this reason, because I'm not confident enough in my ability to explain it right. What we really need is a shop that understands the Ops system to do one of these successfully and then "document" it so that it's specific specs for anyone else that wants to do this project. But it'd need to have requirements like *only* those 2 barrels and *only* the Allen short collar. The minute some dude comes along with a different barrel or different setup in some way and tries to do it it'd fuck the whole thing up and then I'm sure they'd whine about it. And what shop would possibly want to deal with that? Exactly why I'm not surprised that D. Wilson discontinued it. It would also be rad if there was some good supply of the barrels out there where we could just get massive group buy run done all at once and then keep the spares for sale for anyone wanting to do the project in the future. I feel like a smithing shop would be far more willing to invest the time in helping us figure it out if it was going to be for 40 barrels all at once instead of 1 barrel every 4 months. It's just a weird hobby and this stuff is hard. And in general our collective behavior as a community, being cheap and whiny, doesn't exactly make shops want to work with us to figure it out. |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Math is not hard. If you have your upper and another SPR cut barrel simple math can give you exactly what you need. The machine shops job is to machine what the customer asks for. Not to do more work than what they are being paid for. View Quote That's not really an accurate statement. The 416 specifically has some extra complexity vs. a normal SPR/AR-15 project. Making an incorrect blanket statement about a project that you have no experience with isn't hard. Math isn't hard, sure, but obtaining a precise location from a precise measurement on a tapered section of a barrel when you can't actually put the other part on it IS hard. And it's especially hard when you mix in multiple barrel manufacturers and even tolerances within the same manufacturer. Nobody said anything about getting a machine shop to do more work that what they are being paid for. The people trying to do this project are more than willing to pay a shop to work with them to figure the specifics out. But it's a hard thing to do virtually. HK416 Ops Inc Profile |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: That's not really an accurate statement. The 416 specifically has some extra complexity vs. a normal SPR/AR-15 project. Making an incorrect blanket statement about a project that you have no experience with isn't hard. Math isn't hard, sure, but obtaining a precise location from a precise measurement on a tapered section of a barrel when you can't actually put the other part on it IS hard. And it's especially hard when you mix in multiple barrel manufacturers and even tolerances within the same manufacturer. Nobody said anything about getting a machine shop to do more work that what they are being paid for. The people trying to do this project are more than willing to pay a shop to work with them to figure the specifics out. But it's a hard thing to do virtually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myVkd6K0mT8 View Quote So, what ADCO is saying is people send their barrel in and assume they know all this bespoke info about a clone which has no hard numbers for them to go by. Also, when I say math isn't hard and how people should put a little more effort into what they are doing I mean that no matter what there are hard numbers someone can go by no matter how intricate the details are on where the muzzle is to where the back of your suppressor will end up. The back of the collar might vary based on what collar is used but again that is just a number which can be added or subtracted. If you have a 14.5" barrel and you need the collar to sit just past the gas block on a 416 and you also have another SPR contour rifle sitting right next to you you can take your trusty fat max and measure from the muzzle to the back of the collar. Then apply that number to your 416, then mark where the muzzle needs to be and subtract the distance from your 14.5" muzzle to where it needs to be. Then tell ADCO it needs a barrel chop to 13.1" then an SPR contour or whatever magic needs to be done to run this collar on this barrel. If it requires a special collar. Buy the special collar and factor it into your dimensions and send it with the barrel When I say "you" I am referring to whoever the customer is. I'd wager the info these clowns are sending to Adco and D. Wilson for these special SPR contour setups are nothing like what you, TinyCrumb, would send. So, now Adco has to blanket statement stuff because no one wanted to do some math or work and just wanted someone else to do the work for them. |
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Originally Posted By Thanos7856: Who is everyone using for their barrel now since CLE is out? View Quote @Thanos7856 https://craddockprecision.com/rtr-223-wylde-15-1-recce/ https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/863/ No experience with either but hear nothing but good out of Craddick and mixed on the Thoroughbred barrel..............I'd buy either the Douglas 16" or 18" mk12 barrel and send it to @bigbore for a chop................................I have two CLE 15.1 RECCE barrels (1 in 556 & 1 in 6mm Arc) and Eyekahn has the most experience behind this cloned build so we should be able to get the measurements together. Maybe bigbore already knows fuck me if I do I got lucky ordered in Oct 23' and was one of the final runs from CLE before they went dark.................... |
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Nice video. The Brownells HK platform barrels were such a mess. Their 417 barrel gas block location was completely off for similar reasons. I checked multiple with the same results.
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Originally Posted By TheSogster: Nice video. The Brownells HK platform barrels were such a mess. Their 417 barrel gas block location was completely off for similar reasons. I checked multiple with the same results. View Quote Thanks. It's quite amazing just how bad they did with them. I've even heard of people's rifles malfunctioning because of the extra length in the piston system but I haven't verified that myself. The only redeeming quality that I can think of is that at the very least it put a ton of readily available barrel extensions on the market. So we could always buy a crappy Brownells 417 barrel, pull the extension, and then get a custom barrel maker to do a proper one. I've always been secretly hoping that Marvin would do 417 barrels as well since he did such a good job on the 416 ones, but I believe the barrel extensions are what's holding him back. Still have my fingers crossed though. |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Awesome thank you for the info. If I get a barrel chopped how do achieve getting the suppressor to index as close to the barrel as the builds I’ve seen in this thread? @Thanos7856 https://craddockprecision.com/rtr-223-wylde-15-1-recce/ https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/863/ No experience with either but hear nothing but good out of Craddick and mixed on the Thoroughbred barrel..............I'd buy either the Douglas 16" or 18" mk12 barrel and send it to @bigbore for a chop................................I have two CLE 15.1 RECCE barrels (1 in 556 & 1 in 6mm Arc) and Eyekahn has the most experience behind this cloned build so we should be able to get the measurements together. Maybe bigbore already knows fuck me if I do I got lucky ordered in Oct 23' and was one of the final runs from CLE before they went dark.................... View Quote |
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So are these rifle gonna go in this thread or
Attached File Big thanks to TinyCrumb for the heads up! |
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: So are these rifle gonna go in this thread or https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_8098_jpeg-3246601.JPG View Quote Nice! That’s going to be a super cool, unique build. |
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Not a Tennessee Squire
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
MI, USA
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/462226/IMG_4021_jpeg-3247856.JPG View Quote Looks like a UTC-X |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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That's a lot of HK in that picture
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/limited-run/nxs-25-10x24mm/?utm_source=Nightforce+Optics&utm_campaign=4b04f37aac-NXS_2.5-10_Limited_Release_2024_06_24&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-4b04f37aac-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=4b04f37aac&mc_eid=9e0dc28667 View Quote I've been trying to find where to place the order but I haven't seen anything from a dealer. |
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Mile High and Euro
https://www.milehighshooting.com/brands/Nightforce.html https://www.eurooptic.com/nightforce-nxs-25-10x24-rifle-scopes.aspx Edited for piss poor spelling |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Mike High and Euro https://www.milehighshooting.com/brands/Nightforce.html https://www.eurooptic.com/nightforce-nxs-25-10x24-rifle-scopes.aspx View Quote appreciate you sir! |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/limited-run/nxs-25-10x24mm/?utm_source=Nightforce+Optics&utm_campaign=4b04f37aac-NXS_2.5-10_Limited_Release_2024_06_24&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-4b04f37aac-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=4b04f37aac&mc_eid=9e0dc28667 View Quote Damn I really want to grab one.. Funds no allowy |
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Damn OOS already
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Thanks for the heads up
I ended up calling eurooptic and they got me one after my post. They haven't even gotten theirs yet so it's all pre orders. |
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