RickFinsta --- that's exactly how i felt when i saw the Troy trunk monkey guns they showed off at the shot show this year with the NEA stocks , i will insert a few more gratuitous pics below for latter
squirrelslayer1 --- that vis has spoiled me , i already want another vis-1 and a vis-2. thanks for getting me hooked
xtremesports1975 --- yours looks good to me
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there are alot of short stock options popping up lately. lwrc also has a stubby carbine stock set up that looks interesting.
my goal was to build an ar pdw that was as short as my 10" sig 556 with the stock folded. i almost picked up the law adapter but i wanted to be able to fire the gun whether it was collapsed/folded or extended/open. with a 7" 5.56 upper , mission accomplished.
i actually stumbled into the 300blkout by accident. i was shooting with some friends and one of them mentioned i had a handful of short 5.56 guns and i should build a short 7.62 gun. the second gun i wanted was a noveske 12.5" leonidas , i actually bought the lower but sold it to fund other builds. so i finally put one together
she's such a nice shooter i said i've got to have an sdn-6 for this thing , sadly it's still in nfa jail. we were shooting again and he say's , that's nice but i meant a 7.62 x 35
so since i already had an sdn-6 coming i built a blackout upper too. for a minimal increase in length it's ballistics are much better in the short barrel/pdw role.
7" 5.56 and 8.2" 300blk upper's