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thanks for taking the time to post your review..sounds like it's worth giving a shot for those who are interested in getting a piston set up..
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Sounds like a nice rifle. Thanks for the range report. There's a particular lack of pics on this thread though. |
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Sounds like a nice rifle. Thanks for the range report. There's a particular lack of pics on this thread though. Fixed |
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Sounds like a nice rifle. Thanks for the range report. There's a particular lack of pics on this thread though. Fixed There it is. Sure WTJ1169 threw his in and it's a nice rifle too, but he didn't post the range report. I think it's almost a minor sin to post one and not pics also. Sweet. |
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Sounds like a nice rifle. Thanks for the range report. There's a particular lack of pics on this thread though. Fixed There it is. Sure WTJ1169 threw his in and it's a nice rifle too, but he didn't post the range report. I think it's almost a minor sin to post one and not pics also. Sweet. WOW...I like yours better Pro2AinPA...nice stick! (I put up my pic so everyone could see what you were talking about. I didn't want to hijack your thread) |
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Their is no doubt that SPIKES now builds the best dressed upper on the market for the money and both of these rifles are beautiful.
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both of these rifles are beautiful
I concur. Don't be shy with the pics guys. |
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both of these rifles are beautiful
I concur. Don't be shy with the pics guys. Ok...Here's what you get when you order a dedicated piston upper from Spikes outfitted with Troy sights: http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/upperstt2keyangle01.jpg Here's one more pic of the upper on a Spike's lower...ready to roll: http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/riflerightsling03.jpg Ah, that is beautiful. Thanks. Do you know, does Spike's have that modification to the gas block done or does Adams? It's quite a bit of metal taken away from the standard Adams version block. |
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Ah, that is beautiful. Thanks. Do you know, does Spike's have that modification to the gas block done or does Adams? It's quite a bit of metal taken away from the standard Adams version block. The dedicated piston uppers are OEM'd by Adams Arms for Spike's. It's not a mod –– Adams Arms produces this low profile pinned gas block version. |
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Ah, that is beautiful. Thanks. Do you know, does Spike's have that modification to the gas block done or does Adams? It's quite a bit of metal taken away from the standard Adams version block. The dedicated piston uppers are OEM'd by Adams Arms for Spike's. It's not a mod –– Adams Arms produces this low profile pinned gas block version. It's strange they don't offer them in kits. I bet a few people would prefer them. |
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And the purpose of posting that link was what, exactly? I asked for advice, got it, and then got one. Your point? |
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And the purpose of posting that link was what, exactly? I asked for advice, got it, and then got one. Your point? Actually I think he posted that for my question of the modified gas block. If he did, I appreciate it. What it looks like to me from the Weapons Evolution pics and info is that Spike's is having it made, and engraved with the Spikes spider and Made in the USA. Maybe Adams_Arms Jim can clarify what's up a bit more if he pops back in. It literally is quite different from the AA block. WE thread |
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Here's a pic of my Spikes/Adams. I bought it before they received the Dedicated uppers at Spikes. It has been FLAWLESS! http://i47.tinypic.com/255qrk1.jpg Very nice. I've admired your AA/Spikes AR before. I'm wondering why you have the front BUIS on the rail of the forearm though instead of further forward on the block to increase sight plane. Are you worried about the gas release as it goes forward from the piston/block melting the polymer Magpul BUIS? Or even just the heat of the block itself melting the polymer BUIS? Adams animation |
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Here's a pic of my Spikes/Adams. I bought it before they received the Dedicated uppers at Spikes. It has been FLAWLESS! http://i47.tinypic.com/255qrk1.jpg Very nice. I've admired your AA/Spikes AR before. I'm wondering why you have the front BUIS on the rail of the forearm though instead of further forward on the block to increase sight plane. Are you worried about the gas release as it goes forward from the piston/block melting the polymer Magpul BUIS? Or even just the heat of the block itself melting the polymer BUIS? Adams animation Yes, Magpul has stated that the MBUS should NOT be used on a gas block, whether it's a DI or Piston gun. |
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Here's a pic of my Spikes/Adams. I bought it before they received the Dedicated uppers at Spikes. It has been FLAWLESS! http://i47.tinypic.com/255qrk1.jpg Very nice. I've admired your AA/Spikes AR before. I'm wondering why you have the front BUIS on the rail of the forearm though instead of further forward on the block to increase sight plane. Are you worried about the gas release as it goes forward from the piston/block melting the polymer Magpul BUIS? Or even just the heat of the block itself melting the polymer BUIS? Adams animation Yes, Magpul has stated that the MBUS should NOT be used on a gas block, whether it's a DI or Piston gun. Reeeaaalllly. But, but, I thought everything they made was near indestructible. I guess it's a good thing I didn't buy any than, because that would not work for me. I had a feeling heat wouldn't be kind to them. I'm going to be running my new piston AR quite K.I.S.S. for a while with a set of Daniels Defense non folding BUIS. I will be setting mine up with a Magpul MOE handguard, MIAD and CTR stock though. I'll get a range report and some pics up myself once it's here and I get to put some rounds downrange with it. |
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Here's a pic of my Spikes/Adams. I bought it before they received the Dedicated uppers at Spikes. It has been FLAWLESS! http://i47.tinypic.com/255qrk1.jpg Very nice. I've admired your AA/Spikes AR before. I'm wondering why you have the front BUIS on the rail of the forearm though instead of further forward on the block to increase sight plane. Are you worried about the gas release as it goes forward from the piston/block melting the polymer Magpul BUIS? Or even just the heat of the block itself melting the polymer BUIS? Adams animation It's the "Melting" issue. I originally had it on the block but one of the good fellas here set me straight... Makes sense. |
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Yes, Magpul has stated that the MBUS should NOT be used on a gas block, whether it's a DI or Piston gun. Is it ok to mount the polymer Magpul MBUS on top of a free float handguard above the gas block? will it still melt the sights because of heat? |
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Whats it cost? $1395.00. Whoa, thats a bit steep. For that kind of money I would go with a complete Addax GPU. I'm not bashing Spikes or AA, because I am getting the AA piston kit, just saying that there are other options that are, IMO, better for the money. |
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Whats it cost? $1395.00. Whoa, thats a bit steep. For that kind of money I would go with a complete Addax GPU. I'm not bashing Spikes or AA, because I am getting the AA piston kit, just saying that there are other options that are, IMO, better for the money. You know what they say about opinions, right? |
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You know what they say about opinions, right? Indeed. However, It's hard to argue with Lothar Walther. :) Like I said, I am in no way bashing anything in this system, I actually like it a lot, but when I compare it to what Addax has to offer, I feel that the better value and quality is with with the Addax. Yes, another opinion. lol EDIT: great review Pro. |
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You know what they say about opinions, right? Indeed. However, It's hard to argue with Lothar Walther. :) Like I said, I am in no way bashing anything in this system, I actually like it a lot, but when I compare it to what Addax has to offer, I feel that the better value and quality is with with the Addax. Yes, another opinion. lol EDIT: great review Pro. I actually traded for this upper, didn't pay a penny. Got a good deal. |
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It doesseem like a great deal. What did you trade for it? DI upper with a 16" Noveske barrel. Don't worry, I have a couple more Noveske barrels. |
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At $1000 the spikes upper is a deal. At $1395, massively overpriced.
All the piston guns and uppers that cost this are whacked. Stag will have a piston gun for $1100 soon. Slap a $250 rail on it and you have a full piston gun for less than the cost of the Spikes upper. The whole piston market is due a massive correction. There is nothing on an LWRC M6A3 that should make it sell for over $1400 max. Same with LMT CQB. As more vendors (like Stag) come out with piston guns for just a tad more than DI, the price pressure will drop these prices. I bet when Sabre and S&W come out with full rifles based on Adams ikits, full, railed rifles will see for at most $1400. |
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At $1000 the spikes upper is a deal. At $1395, massively overpriced. All the piston guns and uppers that cost this are whacked. Stag will have a piston gun for $1100 soon. Slap a $250 rail on it and you have a full piston gun for less than the cost of the Spikes upper. The whole piston market is due a massive correction. There is nothing on an LWRC M6A3 that should make it sell for over $1400 max. Same with LMT CQB. As more vendors (like Stag) come out with piston guns for just a tad more than DI, the price pressure will drop these prices. I bet when Sabre and S&W come out with full rifles based on Adams ikits, full, railed rifles will see for at most $1400. Good insight but I don't believe your necessarily comparing apples to apples. If you look at the spikes complete worked upper as compared to the other rifle mentioned you have to look at the big picture. The Spikes rifle is loaded with all of the features. |
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Quoted: Good insight but I don't believe your necessarily comparing apples to apples. If you look at the spikes complete worked upper as compared to the other rifle mentioned you have to look at the big picture. The Spikes rifle is loaded with all of the features. And that's the point- you can build a piston upper for less, but once you start adding quality components, you're going to get up there on the price. When you get a manufacturer that's willing to put it all together for you the way you want it AND stand behind it, the overall value can outweigh the sum of the parts. For those that like the configuration pictured, check out the 2009 Model A SEBR. |
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