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Posted: 5/27/2011 11:13:24 AM EDT
Unfortunately, I forgot to tag the first thread as "do not archive" and it got moved to the archive server...
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Blackhalo:
512- MccrayRev F... bought 3 years, 3-4 thousand rounds on different rifles with no problems, still works perfect. Just put it on a Larue riser and I should have done that a while ago, allows for a much better cheek weld for me. I've owned a 516.A65 for over a year it has been mounted on a 5.56, 6.8 and .50 Beowulf. I would estimate it has withstood about 4000 rounds. I have never had any problems with it and am still on the original set of lithium batteries. The field of view and ease of aquiring the reticle has made it a favorite of mine over my AImpoint Comp2 and ACOG for close /medium range targeting. I like the way it cantelevers over the handguard wich allows clearance for an Eotech G23.FTS magnifier and troy folding BUIS. It is a few more ounces than the competition unless you get an XPS model and the battery life could become an issue in a TEOTWAWKI type situation and the reticle can be a bit fuzzy if you don't have perfect eyes. Other that that it's a great optic. I would say the easiest to use overall. An extra plus is the 65MOA ring wich can also be used for range estimation for holdover. Something plain red dot sights cant do. kotegoshi: * Model used - 556.A65 (CR123 version with side buttons and NV settings) * Length of service - Two years * Firearms used on - 16" AR-15 * Number of rounds - ca. 1400 * Anything else that is pertinent - Co-witness with BUIS is even better than I had expected. Return to zero (remove and replace unit) is excellent. Good to excellent battery life. Reticle is a little blurry (not NV bloom) when used in conjunction with a PVS-14. I think this is due to my focusing the PVS-14 on the target, but could be my bad eyes or just the extra layer of glass. I have not experimented with the combination as much as I had hoped (yet). BONUS, when sighted in at 100m, the bottom tick mark is virtually dead on at "inside the house" (5-7 yards) range. * Any problems encountered and customer service experience - None/NA Evile EOTech 512.A65/1 3 months original batteries 500 rounds no issues just added the EOtech 3x magnifier will report on that soon YWHIC I have a 2002 Model 552 w/NV... I just got it off EB for $150.. So far I have shot 220+ rounds from my DPMS 308 16" with 0 issues thus far.. I did clean the contacts and toss out the OLD batteries... The clicks can't be heard and are barely felt.. I just take my time when adjusting it.. I agree on the middle 12 setting (when u first turn on) as being too dim in bright light.. but I am happy for the $ I paid.. Considering the price point is dropping to sub-$400 (NEW).. they are still worth sgtgeo Originally Posted By Postal0311: Had an Eotech 512 rev F. Was a big fan and highly recommended it. However I found that it would drain batteries when off. All too often pulled the rifle from the safe and found the batteries were dead. Had batteries leak inside it and caused problems. Eotech replaced the battery box, and I got rid of the sight. Customer service was very friendly and helpful. http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2835/dsci0030co6.jpg On a sidenote, if you want a good absolute co-witness QD mount, the GG&G lever as shown works great. The Larue riser raised the Eotech too much for my tastes. Ran it on 16in and 10.5 inch uppers. Had it for about a year in. . . maybe 2007-2008. Same here, Except customer service sucked for me. Took weeks to get a replacement battery cover. Loved it but the battery drain was unacceptable. mks99 512 F rev 3000+ rounds of 9mm out of a Marlin carbine. Blow back with a pretty good recoil to it. Moved it to a 5.45 carbine and have over 2500 rounds there. Its all plinking and range stuff so no really hard knocks other than your typical drops and falls. Bought a second 512 and only have a 1000 through it. Also picked up an XPS recently. Nothing to report yet. Never had to send any of them back or any problems. Been using them with a YHM and LaRue risers. I've tried to keep the removal rate of the screw mount as low as possible to keep from wearing it out. The RTZ is perfect with both the integral mount and the LaRue. Love the 65 mil ring. |
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RDTCU
2007model 552.A65 - .308 AR ~500rd, somewhat dim compared to newer models. Holds zero well with GG&G lever (on and off several times). Drains alkaline batteries after ~6months. Don't use it much, usually keep the scope on it. 2009model 512.A65 - 30.06 Remington 7400 deer drive gun. ~300rd, no problems even with rough use bouncing around in truck/boat/woods. 2010model 512.A65 - RFB .308, ~1000rd, no problems. Has brighter max setting and longer battery life than older models. criley Owned a 512 for one year. Sits atop of a 5.45 upper. Attached via a GG&G accucam which is very nice Several hundred rounds under its belt Like everything but I do have this one issue - it does drain batteries to some degree. New alkalines did not last a year - perhaps only 6 mos... and they were not used heavily. epointer 512 have had it for a little over a year still the same batteries as when I purchased it. No issues at all. 552 I have only had it for a couple of months (bought used of EE) but the manufacturer date is 2005. No issues with this unit. Mounger I have had a Model 512 for 5 years. Several thousand rounds on several AR's not problems what so ever. I have found it to be extremely rugged, reliable, and user friendly. I have been running a 3x Mako magnifier behind it for 6 months that has turned out to be a great experience. Recently loaned it to my brother who is LEO because his was "eating batteries" and was not operable when he really needed it. I knew mine was good and he needed it more than I. I took his Model 512 (also 5 years old) with the intent of sending it off for repairs. I put a known good set of batteries in it and it did not work at all! Upon further inspection I noticed that one of the battery terminals on the closest to the lens side was very corroded. I scraped tons of corrosion off of it, put the batteries back in and it fired right up! Hmmmm? I then put the set of batteries back in it that were supposedly eaten and it again fired right up! I imagine a set of batteries early in its life leaked starting the corrosion. I theorize that when it stopped working and he assumed it was dead batteries the act of replacing the batteries would scrape enough corrosion off for it to work. This corrosion would promptly set up again and break the connection, making him believe that the batteries were drained. Since I cleaned it real good I have left it on for 3 days continuous and it is still going strong. He reported that is would "eat the batteries" in a week turned off, so I think I have it. I am going to experiment with it some more before I give it back to him. I will get back with yall if it turns out I'm wrong. Tommytwoguns I have a 512 RevF. After about 1500 rounds with it I took a carbine class. During the class the reticle was very dim. New batteries didn't fix it. I used it okay during the class, but contacted EOtech afterwards. They said it was an issue and to send them the optic. 1.5 weeks later I got the sight back with no issues. Apparently, some layer in the holo sight de-laminated. I haven't had any major issues with the optic other than that. The optic was still serviceable during the class, so I can't really complain since they fixed it quickly and for free. Good customer service. MaineAR I've had my EoTech 512 for about 4 years now and it has been a fantastic site. I've had it on several rifles with a GG&G quick disconnect mount. I've never had an issue with it and would buy another in the future. Friendly_Crusader 511 made in 2001 personally used for 2 years, 2500rds + no problems, not even battery drain problems, but it does feature a short battery life. fuzzy03cls I have 2 512's plus a Bushnell holosite that's like the 512 & takes AA batteries. 1 512 is 2006, on AR15 1 512 is 2010, on AR15 Bushnell holosite 512 is on my AK47 Round counts are upwards of 3K for each. All 3 sights have worked great for me. I have no battery drain problems, or recoil issues with the batteries. I have dropped or banged my AR a few times, the sights have held up well. Zero holds fine. All 3 sights last easily 6 months on lithium batteries. I have owned a 511 & the Bushnell holosite equivalent. Performance was the same but the batteries did only last about a month. Even when off. I played with the newer XPS sights. I just don't like the size/feel of them & the batteries. I prefer AA batteries cause I can find them anywhere. |
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Model used 517
Length of service About 12 months Firearms used on Ruger SR556 Number of rounds Around 600 Anything else that is pertinent The original batteries lasted me almost the whole year. I did turn it off when it was stored in my house. Any problems encountered and customer service experience While in a competition, i started on a shaded side, while moving along i went to a place where the sun was over myself and the target, there was a blur moment when i got on target. The eotech reticle appear to slowly move to the center of the glass and it took me a second to fire that section of the course. Only happen once. |
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Doesn't look like animal crap, doesn't have bits of bone and hair and what-not in it......looks pretty creamy, decent consistency.......I'd take a pic |
Hello new to the forum. Hoping to get any info about the eotech 553 with a.r.m.s quick detach mount.
Recently bought a used one. works great, some of my ar15s ive tried mounting it on, the sight was a lil loose on the rail. Question: Is there any way to adjust the tension on the a.r.m.s mounts? Looked on yahoo and google and too many sale offers. Any info would be appreciated thanks. |
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Im wanting to get a EOTECH EXPS or XPS for my AR, my question is when the battery change is needed do you have to pull the sight completely off to change batteries or can you change out batteries with it still mounted? Ive also looked at the 512 and 517 but I think I like the size of the shorter EXPS and XPS models....Are there any more upgrades on these models compared to the bigger 512-517 models ? I know the smaller models use a cr123 battery compared to the bigger AA batteries.......any thing you guys can reccomend ? ANY Do's and Do Not's ? Thanks......
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Originally Posted By Onlyaspike:
Im wanting to get a EOTECH EXPS or XPS for my AR, my question is when the battery change is needed do you have to pull the sight completely off to change batteries or can you change out batteries with it still mounted? Ive also looked at the 512 and 517 but I think I like the size of the shorter EXPS and XPS models....Are there any more upgrades on these models compared to the bigger 512-517 models ? I know the smaller models use a cr123 battery compared to the bigger AA batteries.......any thing you guys can reccomend ? ANY Do's and Do Not's ? Thanks...... Can't speak to the EXPS but on my XPS2-2 the battery is easy to change. Just unscrew the cap, sight stays on weapon. |
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I'm convinced on the EOtech, but I have questions about zeroing, cowitness, and being able to have a BUIS and the G33FTS magnifier at the same time.
(1) Do the optics come out of the box mounting/cowitnessing lower, higher, or the same as the CompM4 I'm issued? (2) If not the same, how does this affect zeroing? (3) If not the same, what riser would make it the same? (4) Will the G33FTS fit over the matech BUIS? what about with the included 7mm riser? Are there BUIS that fit under it with or without the riser? (5) What mount would put the EXPS or 512 at the same height as the magnifier on the riser? I'm a pretty simple minded (but thorough and thoughtful) kind of grunt. If the answer is that the optic is (out of the box) the same height as my issued CCO, and the magnifier will fit over a matech out of the box without the riser, a simple "Roger, you're good to go" is sufficient. Your experience and input is much appreciated. |
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I'd like to get an XPS2 along with a magnifier. Is is hard to turn/off, adjust brightness settings due to the placement of the buttons on the rear of the sight with a mag mounted? In other words, does the mag get in the way?
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I am new here, and I apologize if this has been asked or answered. I looked around but did not see it, so I'll throw it up.
I am currently debating between the following, and am trying to figure out which to get. I do not require nightvision, but am interested in adding a magnified at some point in the future. It is my SHTF Rifle as I already have multiple pistols in the apartment for home defense. My weapon sight experience is primarily with iron sights, the CCO from the Army, and the ACOG. I love the ACOG and wanted to get one, but cannot justify dropping the cash on one right now, so I opted to go with the EO Tech as I was never a fan of the CCO. 1) EO Tech 517.A65 - Originally looking at this one because of price point, common battery, and the side buttons 2) XPS2-0 - Looked at this because of the size, but unsure of the battery life and the battery itself. Not sure how I feel about the rear mounted buttons 3) EXPS2 - Same reasons as the XPS2-0 but it has the side mounted buttons With the XPS and EXPS I will have to wait until March because of the back log, but if they are the better way to go, then that's what I am willing to do. I am trying to avoid the EXPS because of the price point, but am leaving all options on the table. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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Typed this out for another thread, and figured I may as well re-post it here for others who may be interested:
To recap - I own an EOTech 552.A65 Rev. F, and two EOTech 553.A65TAN SU-231/PEQs. The 552 has been owned since 2007, and while I have had one 553 since 2010, and another since 2011. The 552 I bought used from after having been used previously in Iraq (it was a great deal! ), and one of the 553s was used in Afghanistan. EOTechs tend to be a polarizing issue on many "gun" forums, and I have little interest in getting into an EOTech versus Aimpoint debate, however, I must interject: To imply that US SOF is somehow saddled with the EOTech against their will "because that's what the government bought them" is patently false. Evidence to this effect has not only been tendered by recent and operational members of those communities, but also the fact that while the Aimpoint was standard issue, many end-users elected to personally purchase their own EOTechs and even Bushnell Holosights, while many units chose to purchase them using unit funds, the direct consequence being the eventual adoption of EOTechs over Aimpoints as the "official" USSOCOM issue optic. Furthermore, particularly with regards to USASOC - the Aimpoint CompM4 and M4S already exist in huge numbers within the Army supply system as the M68CCO, and it would be less than overwhelming for USASOC to arrange to be equipped with reflex sights under their "home" component and use Aimpoints if they so desired. In addition, the implication that US SOF simply tears through EOTechs without concern for longevity "because they can just buy new ones," as if they're running one operation, then trading their optic in for a NIB unit is also not supported by any evidence. In fact, the EOTech 551.A65, a model that has been discontinued for several years, the "tragically flawed N-cell EOTech" is still in relatively wide service with some of the best equipped units within the establishment - the kind that can afford $40,000 NVDs. If EOTech service life were in fact so atrociously short - the discontinued 551 should have faded from service long ago, as should the 552s, also quite common. The idea of using an EOTech without iron sights of any kind is not an unusual one. It's just... not. By people who have a much more realistic expectation of needing to use an optic equipped weapon in their own self defense, or even in offensive operations than the vast majority of people here. If the EOTech were so unreliable to the point of continually needing BUIS, the leaders in the various organizations that use EOTechs would be cracking heads and bringing down unholy hell on anyone caught without BUIS. Particularly in small unit tactics - if there was so much risk associated with the use of EOTechs - it would be an unacceptable risk to allow even one person to go into action without BUIS, as it would endanger the entire unit if even one weapon became NMC (non-mission capable - unable to be accurately aimed). Nor would their peers allow this either. They do, however, get free, and nearly unlimited batteries. I have my own personal experiences as well to draw upon, some of which is organizational, in favor of the use of the EOTech. I have personally owned four Aimpoints and three EOTechs in my life. I currently do not own a single Aimpoint, and fully intend to purchase more EOTechs when it becomes realistic for me to do so. I have used, and had come through my responsibility literally hundreds of Aimpoints, but still prefer the EOTech. A couple other comments: - I'm not an electrical engineer, so I can't comment on why this is so - but EOTechs, from what I can tell - don't like being neglected. They don't like being left alone for weeks or months at a time, only to be turned on at intervals. Almost every EOTech problem that I have heard of has involved an EOTech that was in some form of storage for significant periods of its service life, rather than being in continual use. - For whatever reason the above is true - it may be that EOTechs, by a combination of battery life, for reasons already mentioned (laser pattern emitter versus LED diode) and aversion to neglect - they may not be the best option for a casual civilian shooter with a day job for home defense, or even an LEO who stores their weapon in a rack 99% of the time, only to deploy during emergencies and/or the occasional warrant service or SWAT "op." As with any other equipment choices - you need to understand what you're getting, its advantages and limitations, and above all, be realistic about your needs and ability to maximize the advantages while mitigating the disadvantages. Regardless of personal ego and conceits - it is a simple fact that the needs of a service member that is forward deployed do not always correspond with the needs of an armed citizen or LEO. You need to choose your equipment based on your actual mission profile, whether its home defense or civil order or kinetic or full-spectrum military operations, and understand what it is that you are training for, if at all. Some people just want to look cool and plink at the range. ~Augee |
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I have an Eotech 512, don't know the revision. So far it's been great, on the first set of batteries I installed (Energizer AA, I don't trust Duracell any longer). I turn it off when not in use. It was purchased two years ago (late 2011)
My question is maybe not optics related. I recently bought a Primary Arms 3x magnifier. I can't fit both on the rail of a Colt flat-top since the handguard interferes with the bottom of the Eotech. I pulled the handguards and installed the magnifier and Eotech together and like the combination. So, are there any sort-of-stock handguards I can use or should I take a Dremel to the top of the Colt handguards? (this actually sounds like a way to end up with a cracked handguard so I don't really plan to do it). What worked for you? I don't want to get into a free-float handguard at this point; maybe in the future I will. |
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551, had about 2 years on a rifle and about 4k rounds. Started draining the batteries in a matter of days, sent in for warranty service and got it back in a week and a half. Sold it an the rifle not long after.
Bought a 553.A65 black SU231/PEQ Feb of this year, reticle started getting dim in daylight(suspected nitrogen leak) then the battery springs fell out after about 4 months and 1500 rounds. Sent it in, door-to-door in less than a week. Looking at the shipping info, they got it fixed and back in the mail on the same day. |
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Originally Posted By Augee:
Typed this out for another thread, and figured I may as well re-post it here for others who may be interested: To recap - I own an EOTech 552.A65 Rev. F, and two EOTech 553.A65TAN SU-231/PEQs. The 552 has been owned since 2007, and while I have had one 553 since 2010, and another since 2011. The 552 I bought used from after having been used previously in Iraq (it was a great deal! ), and one of the 553s was used in Afghanistan. EOTechs tend to be a polarizing issue on many "gun" forums, and I have little interest in getting into an EOTech versus Aimpoint debate, however, I must interject: To imply that US SOF is somehow saddled with the EOTech against their will "because that's what the government bought them" is patently false. Evidence to this effect has not only been tendered by recent and operational members of those communities, but also the fact that while the Aimpoint was standard issue, many end-users elected to personally purchase their own EOTechs and even Bushnell Holosights, while many units chose to purchase them using unit funds, the direct consequence being the eventual adoption of EOTechs over Aimpoints as the "official" USSOCOM issue optic. Furthermore, particularly with regards to USASOC - the Aimpoint CompM4 and M4S already exist in huge numbers within the Army supply system as the M68CCO, and it would be less than overwhelming for USASOC to arrange to be equipped with reflex sights under their "home" component and use Aimpoints if they so desired. In addition, the implication that US SOF simply tears through EOTechs without concern for longevity "because they can just buy new ones," as if they're running one operation, then trading their optic in for a NIB unit is also not supported by any evidence. In fact, the EOTech 551.A65, a model that has been discontinued for several years, the "tragically flawed N-cell EOTech" is still in relatively wide service with some of the best equipped units within the establishment - the kind that can afford $40,000 NVDs. If EOTech service life were in fact so atrociously short - the discontinued 551 should have faded from service long ago, as should the 552s, also quite common. The idea of using an EOTech without iron sights of any kind is not an unusual one. It's just... not. By people who have a much more realistic expectation of needing to use an optic equipped weapon in their own self defense, or even in offensive operations than the vast majority of people here. If the EOTech were so unreliable to the point of continually needing BUIS, the leaders in the various organizations that use EOTechs would be cracking heads and bringing down unholy hell on anyone caught without BUIS. Particularly in small unit tactics - if there was so much risk associated with the use of EOTechs - it would be an unacceptable risk to allow even one person to go into action without BUIS, as it would endanger the entire unit if even one weapon became NMC (non-mission capable - unable to be accurately aimed). Nor would their peers allow this either. They do, however, get free, and nearly unlimited batteries. I have my own personal experiences as well to draw upon, some of which is organizational, in favor of the use of the EOTech. I have personally owned four Aimpoints and three EOTechs in my life. I currently do not own a single Aimpoint, and fully intend to purchase more EOTechs when it becomes realistic for me to do so. I have used, and had come through my responsibility literally hundreds of Aimpoints, but still prefer the EOTech. A couple other comments: - I'm not an electrical engineer, so I can't comment on why this is so - but EOTechs, from what I can tell - don't like being neglected. They don't like being left alone for weeks or months at a time, only to be turned on at intervals. Almost every EOTech problem that I have heard of has involved an EOTech that was in some form of storage for significant periods of its service life, rather than being in continual use. - For whatever reason the above is true - it may be that EOTechs, by a combination of battery life, for reasons already mentioned (laser pattern emitter versus LED diode) and aversion to neglect - they may not be the best option for a casual civilian shooter with a day job for home defense, or even an LEO who stores their weapon in a rack 99% of the time, only to deploy during emergencies and/or the occasional warrant service or SWAT "op." As with any other equipment choices - you need to understand what you're getting, its advantages and limitations, and above all, be realistic about your needs and ability to maximize the advantages while mitigating the disadvantages. Regardless of personal ego and conceits - it is a simple fact that the needs of a service member that is forward deployed do not always correspond with the needs of an armed citizen or LEO. You need to choose your equipment based on your actual mission profile, whether its home defense or civil order or kinetic or full-spectrum military operations, and understand what it is that you are training for, if at all. Some people just want to look cool and plink at the range. ~Augee View Quote what if I pulled the batteries out, and only put them in when I needed the rds (it will be in storage). would that solve those problems? |
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So far a very useful thread to me. I know little of EO Techs many models, Is there one that uses AA batteries and can easily swithch, Point of aim wise from a flatop AR-15 to a Flattop AR-10. My AR 10 only has a 16 inch barrel, but I would expect to use it at longer ranges than the AR-15. I am just punching paper and tin cans, but I would like to be consitan shooting. If this seem a bad idea say so and I'll use my iron sights on the AR10. I have no sights, now, on the AR15 I am building. It will get shot a lot more than the AR10.
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Sorry if this has been asked, but I'm being offered an XPS2 as a trade for my Aimpoint Pro. What is the battery life on this particular model?
I know the battery in my Pro has lasted a few years so far and would like at least the same life for the Eotech. Thanks in advance. |
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I have a question about Mounting an Eotech 512 I intend to use on a Tavor. The center dot and ring are 1moa and 65moa. But does this change depending on the eye relief which is infinite. I was wondering at what distance from the eye do you get the stated reticle size. Is it the 4 inches listed in the field of view spec.
Display Window • Optical Surfaces: Anti-reflection coating • Window Dimensions: 1.20” x 0.85” (30 x 23mm) • Front Window Material: Shatter resistant glass 1/8" (3.17mm) • Rear Window Material: Shatter resistant laminate (3/16” (4.76mm) thick) • Field of View 100 yds (91m): 30 yds (28m) at a 4” eye relief |
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The reticle will be 1/65 MOA regardless of where it is positioned. However; the further from your eye it is mounted, the more of the sight window it will cover. Closer and you must look more through the sight, further and you must look more around the sight.
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I am trying to get info on this eotech
It is a March 2005 manufacture date and was taken off a prison issue M14. I just need to know if $250 is too much to pay for it or if I shouldn't waste my money. |
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EOTech 512
Originally purchased in 2005 PSA AR-15 Picked up a used EOTECH 512 a few weeks ago. Although the reticle works fine in areas with low light, the reticle is barely visible in direct sunlight. I wrote to EOTech to see about getting a repair done, they refused and said I needed to buy a new optic. Obviously the unit is out of warranty, but I was at least expecting them to give me a quote on a repair cost. Negative experience with customer service. Does anyone know of any shops capable of doing repairs on one of these units? |
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