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Posted: 12/17/2011 2:40:28 PM EDT
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I have created a series improved 25M zero targets (based of the standard US Military 25M zero target) that will allow the shooter to zero for 50/200M, 100M, and 300M using a 25yd/M range. The different targets are calibrated for both 20" full length service rifles and also 14.5" / 16" carbines with the shorter sight radius. The bold centering lines should assist in acquiring the good sight picture required for zeroing. These are also in different colors in addition to the traditional black for your individual preference.
Trajectories used were an average of M193 and M855 ballistic data. This should get most shooters in the right area. As you know, this can change with different loads. ZERO TARGETS FOR AR15A2 / A3 / A4 20" RIFLES USING IRON SIGHTS 50/200M Calibrated Zero Target w/ RIBZ Instructions Colors: 100M Calibrated Zero Target w/ RIBZ Instructions Colors: Standard 300M Zero Target Colors: Target sets can be downloaded in .pdf format below: 50/200M Zero Target for 20" Rifle 100M Zero Target for 20" Rifle Standard 300M Zero Target for 20" Rifle TARGETS FOR 14.5" / 16" M4 & AR15 CARBINES USING IRON SIGHTS 50/200M Calibrated Zero Target w/ RIBZ Instructions Colors: 100M Calibrated Zero Target w/ RIBZ Instructions Colors: Standard 300M Zero Target Colors: Target sets can be downloaded in .pdf format below: 50/200M Zero Target for 14.5"/16" Carbine 100M Zero Target for 14.5"/16" Carbine Standard 300M Zero Target for 14.5"/16" Carbine TARGETS FOR AR15 RIFLES & CARBINES w/ OPTICS Adjustment grid references are calibrated for 1/2 MOA adjustments that are common on most optics (Aimpoint, EOtech, etc...) 50/200M Calibrated Zero Target Colors: 100M Calibrated Zero Target Colors: Standard 300M Zero Target Colors: Target sets can be downloaded in .pdf format below: 50/200M Zero Target for AR15 Rifles & Carbines w/ Optics 100M Zero Target for AR15 Rifles & Carbines w/ Optics Standard 300M Zero Target for AR15 Rifles & Carbines w/ Optics All targets are designed for standard 8.5x11 paper. Make sure your page scaling is set to 'NONE' in your print settings for proper scaling. Grid dimensions for targets are: Rifle Targets: .96cm Carbine Targets: 1.3cm Optics Targets: 1/2" (numbered grids) Be safe and good shooting! Also check out these targets that I created for use with Aimpoint style optics. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/529846_Sight_in_targets_for_25_50_yards_designed_for_Aimpoint_sights.html&page=1 |
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Amazing work!!
I'll wait for the 50yd one. |
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Thanks.
Make us one for the AK. When I print them as "Fit to Printable Area", the grid is 1cm squares. Is that correct? |
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Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Thanks. Make us one for the AK. When I print them as "Fit to Printable Area", the grid is 1cm squares. Is that correct? the grid squares are 0.96 cm, so you should be right about there |
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Outstanding! Thanks.
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Originally Posted By thecolter383:
Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Thanks. Make us one for the AK. When I print them as "Fit to Printable Area", the grid is 1cm squares. Is that correct? the grid squares are 0.96 cm, so you should be right about there When I print it as "None" they are about that dimension(< 1cm square). If that's correct then I'll print them that way. I just figured it was a round dimension. |
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"If people insist on photoshops that have nothing to do with anything but racial stereotypes - like Obama dressed like a pimp, eating watermelon and asking where the white wimmenz are at - then that thread will be locked too."
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Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Originally Posted By thecolter383:
Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Thanks. Make us one for the AK. When I print them as "Fit to Printable Area", the grid is 1cm squares. Is that correct? the grid squares are 0.96 cm, so you should be right about there When I print it as "None" they are about that dimension(< 1cm square). If that's correct then I'll print them that way. I just figured it was a round dimension. you're good to go |
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'History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid'. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Pretty awesome. I'll be able to do this at my local indoor range. Thanks!
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Alright, I've simplified things and created targets for 50/200M, 100M, and 300M zeroes for both rifles and carbines.
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'History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid'. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Another thank you!
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I've added targets that should be useful for a variety of optic equiped rifles with grid references calibrated for 1/2 MOA click adjustments.
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"If people insist on photoshops that have nothing to do with anything but racial stereotypes - like Obama dressed like a pimp, eating watermelon and asking where the white wimmenz are at - then that thread will be locked too."
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Would you able to make 50yard zero target (at 25meter or yard) for BUIS sights, if possible?
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Originally Posted By skang:
Would you able to make 50yard zero target (at 25meter) for BUIS sights, if possible? The first ones (Iron Sights) should work with your BUIS. |
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Oh hell yes. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
These are great. You got some chops. Could you do some targets with multiple silhouettes reduced for 25 meters? The ones I've seen are usually poster sized but you could certainly fit a number of the 100M-300M targets onto one letter size page. Like this one: http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x298/hurtzc/ea13af0e.jpg I'll work something up here soon. |
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'History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid'. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Thank you for these, they are of excellent quality
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Thanks for the great targets.
Maybe I am being a bit dense here but I am having difficulty understanding what part of the silhouette is to be used as center mass on the 50/200 meter carbine optics target? |
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Originally Posted By Falcon195:
Thanks for the great targets. Maybe I am being a bit dense here but I am having difficulty understanding what part of the silhouette is to be used as center mass on the 50/200 meter carbine optics target? Center mass on the silhouette is shown with the bold gray lines. You'll aim center mass of the silhouette target and make your sight adjustments so your rounds impact within the dashed circle. |
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Thanks for the quick reply.
That works as POI should be 1.2" below POA for 50M zero at 25M for a M4 with absolute co-witness red dot. |
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Oh by the way, thanks for the great targets!
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Thanks for the time u put in this. I have a brain injury from Iraq so the contrast between the red of your target and the green of my trij tr24g triangle helps lots. Man I'm glad you made these!
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Hey I'm going out hunting for first time since got wounded in 06 I got SSA 70 gr tsx through a 16 in 1/7 4150 barrel with a battlecomp on the end. Using the improved optics zero targets he made how close will I be ? I'll try to get to the sheriff dept range but this is my plan B. Any advice please...
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Wouldn't it make sense to scale the targets for yards, not meters? I've never been to a range in this country that uses the metric system.
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Any idea how close to correct these would be for a 16-18" .308 [147-150gr at ~2600fps]?
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Originally Posted By bp7178:
Wouldn't it make sense to scale the targets for yards, not meters? I've never been to a range in this country that uses the metric system. They work just as good at 25 yards. The difference between the two units is not noticeable at the ranges concerned. The metric units where used mainly due to the fact that AR15 sights are calibrated in meters. |
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'History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid'. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Thanks alot
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Very informative, I'll be using these!
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Solid work!
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Great job really appreciate it
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I have an 18" barrel with 5.56x45 - 62 gr FMJ XM855. I am currently running mbus the front sight is on the end of my 12 free floating rail. which zeroing targets should I use?
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Originally Posted By aaholland:
I have an 18" barrel with 5.56x45 - 62 gr FMJ XM855. I am currently running mbus the front sight is on the end of my 12 free floating rail. which zeroing targets should I use? -thanks Go with the rifle targets for your desired zero. The click adjustments will not be exact, but they will be closer than using the carbine targets. This is what I used for my 16" rifle with a 12" rail running MBUS front and rear and it worked well. |
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'History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid'. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Originally Posted By thecolter383:
Originally Posted By aaholland:
I have an 18" barrel with 5.56x45 - 62 gr FMJ XM855. I am currently running mbus the front sight is on the end of my 12 free floating rail. which zeroing targets should I use? -thanks Go with the rifle targets for your desired zero. The click adjustments will not be exact, but they are closer than the carbine targets. This is what I used for my 16" rifle with a 12" rail running MBUS front and rear and it worked well. Thanks a lot. Good work on the targets. |
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Thanks for posting these targets. They're excellent.
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Very useful, thanks.
Mods can we get this tacked? |
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Originally Posted By M4A1: Very useful, thanks. Mods can we get this tacked? They're already linked to in the FAQ. The thread is also marked as "DO NOT ARCHIVE". |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Originally Posted By M4A1:
Very useful, thanks. Mods can we get this tacked? They're already linked to in the FAQ. The thread is also marked as "DO NOT ARCHIVE". Thank you. |
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I am builing a Dissy set up. Should i use the rifle targets or carbine targets?
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the rifle targets should work best for you.
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Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:
Any idea how close to correct these would be for a 16-18" .308 [147-150gr at ~2600fps]? I would like to know the answer to this too. |
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If sighting in a rifle or carbine with optics that have calibrated aiming points––like the Nikon 223 BDC or the Burris TAC30/MTAC––would you sight in using the primary aiming point (100meter) or would you use the calibrated secondary aiming points, i.e., the 200 yard or 300 yard dots ?
If what I read on the target for the 25/300 meter target is correct, you would zero at 25 using the 100 meter (primary) aiming point, them click down 2 MOA––would thus be the same as zeroing at 25 meters with the 300 meter aiming point ? There's a roughly 2moa difference between the two aiming points. |
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Nice!!!!!!
Thanks for your hard work |
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Damn my range is only 25 yards which is not 25 meters, but does it really matter op?
Edit i believe i can still use your target but will be zeroed for 50yards/220 yards. thanks op |
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Damn my range is only 25 yards which is not 25 meters, but does it really matter op? Edit i believe i can still use your target but will be zeroed for 50yards/220 yards. thanks op close enough for Gov. work. You'll be fine using a 25 yard range. |
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total newbie here, but I am very appreciative of the work that went into these charts.Thank you very much!
if I understand things correctly, using the 3 targets for the 14.5 or 16" carbines, they all do the same thing: provide the ability to zero in at a particular distance by using a 25 m/y range. The difference is in how you set the rear elevation while doing the zero. I guess why one would choose one over the other would be at which distance you want to be closer to zeroed at, right? My understanding from reading RIBZ threads on this site as well as on AR15 Armory was 25m: 6/3 50y: 6/3 -4 (for the 20" A4 rifle; the M4 carbine will zero at 41 meters/45 yards) 100y: 6/3 -6 150y: 6/3 -6 200m: 6/3 -4 300m: 6/3 400m: 4 500m: 5 600m: 6/3 (after one full rotation upward) so I am confused as to why someone would perform the mod to the rear sight and then want to choose the 25/300 target at 6/3, versus clicking down to 6/3 -6 and using the 100m target, versus clicking to 6/3 -4 and using the 50 m target. Can someone explain? |
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