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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:06:50 PM EDT
Possibly a shocking concept considering how much I like optics, but I bought my first AK without a side rail.
I have to confess that I've had a secret desire for an underfolder for several years...but because 74 under folders don't really grow on trees I hadn't made a move on one, and am not really interested in owning a 7.62 under folder though I do shoot a friends on a regular basis (and like it quite a bit actually). Nictra built this one recently for a tactical rifle but I don't think it was exactly what he was after when all was said and done. Somehow we got to talking about it and I admitted I had a hankering for a UF, one thing led to another and we worked a deal to send it on down to me. I have to say after fitting the laminate and getting the bakelite mag in, I think I instantly fell in love - side rail or no side rail. It's a nicely built rifle and I have to compliment Nictra on the quality of the finish he put on it...looks great. He did a great job and I'm really impressed with it. For me the cosmo stained beat up old laminate HG's are the cherry on top, but the whole package works for me. I can't seem to find my other mustard double buckle sling and I may replace the plum PG with a bakelite one but I can't find that either. And while mostly what I talk about is Russian optics, truth is I love AK irons and shoot them all the time, so I hope to be able to live without an optic on this one...my first AK without a side rail 
A couple cousins 
Thanks for a great deal Nictra, this is actually much better than expected. Nice work
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:13:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Possibly a shocking concept considering how much I like optics, but I bought my first AK without a side rail. I have to confess that I've had a secret desire for an underfolder for several years...but because 74 under folders don't really grow on trees I hadn't made a move on one, and am not really interested in owning a 7.62 under folder though I do shoot a friends on a regular basis (and like it quite a bit actually). Nictra built this one recently for a tactical rifle but I don't think it was exactly what he was after when all was said and done. Somehow we got to talking about it and I admitted I had a hankering for a UF, one thing led to another and we worked a deal to send it on down to me. I have to say after fitting the laminate and getting the bakelite mag in, I think I instantly fell in love - side rail or no side rail. It's a nicely built rifle and I have to compliment Nictra on the quality of the finish he put on it...looks great. He did a great job and I'm really impressed with it. For me the cosmo stained beat up old laminate HG's are the cherry on top, but the whole package works for me. I can't seem to find my other mustard double buckle sling and I may replace the plum PG with a bakelite one but I can't find that either. And while mostly what I talk about is Russian optics, truth is I love AK irons and shoot them all the time, so I hope to be able to live without an optic on this one...my first AK without a side rail http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/74UF/74UF_LeftLamAmmo.JPG http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/74UF/74UF_LeftLam02.JPG http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/74UF/74UF_Left_Fold.JPG A couple cousins http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/74UF/74UF_Left_SLR105_AKSU.JPG Thanks for a great deal Nictra, this is actually much better than expected. Nice work Z  ................It's...............Beautiful! |
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:13:35 PM EDT
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It looks great but I'm way to much of a purist to own one.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:14:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: It looks great but I'm way to much of a purist to own one. Actually the prototypes I believe were Underfolders.  |
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:17:55 PM EDT
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I'm a tad more on the collector side myself but I mainly wanted a beater with an UF and wasn't too concerned about correctness with this one. I've thought about going the SAR-2 route for an early 74, also thought about that for a UF proto but in the end it's a little more work than what I was after...in this case it's really just the stock.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:19:08 PM EDT
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TX-Zen, awesome rifle! I really like the looks of the '74 UF, and it looks like Nictra did an excellent job building that rifle.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:23:28 PM EDT
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Nice indeed! Love that laminate.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:41:54 PM EDT
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Nice indeed! Love that laminate. +1 |
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Posted: 12/24/2011 3:18:11 PM EDT
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It looks great but I'm way to much of a purist to own one. Actually, the Soviets made an underfolder 74 for their infantry in the 80's. I don't know how widely fielded it was, but they definitely made 'em. It had wood furniture up front and a hooded front site, too. Nice rifle TX! |
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:01:50 PM EDT
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Now thats a beauty right there,very,very nice collection.Thanks for sharing the pics
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:10:32 PM EDT
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Wow there is something about that....looks awesome
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:56:28 PM EDT
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It hurt letting her go, but I will build another someday soon! She looks great man!
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Posted: 12/24/2011 5:39:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: It hurt letting her go, but I will build another someday soon! She looks great man! That you will my friend that you will. |
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Posted: 12/25/2011 6:01:11 AM EDT
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Damn! The world is going to end in 2012, Zen bought a non traditional 74!
 Nice build Nictra.
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Posted: 12/25/2011 6:14:38 AM EDT
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Let me just add that to my list of reasons to be jealous of you...ok done....thanks for sharing.
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Posted: 12/25/2011 6:30:09 AM EDT
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let me follow up by saying she looks better in your hands than she ever did in mine...
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Posted: 12/25/2011 10:30:29 AM EDT
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awesome rifle
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Posted: 12/25/2011 10:35:52 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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It looks great but I'm way to much of a purist to own one. Actually, the Soviets made an underfolder 74 for their infantry in the 80's. I don't know how widely fielded it was, but they definitely made 'em. It had wood furniture up front and a hooded front site, too. Nice rifle TX! You got pictures of it? I've seen a lot of proto-type stuff that shouldn't have existed. Like the early Tula AKSU's with scope rails- that always becomes a religious discussion of sorts. OP, you should add at least one AIMS 74 to your collection. I have two, had three- but sold the one because I didn't have enough proper Romanian 74 bayonets to go around. |
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Posted: 12/25/2011 5:32:14 PM EDT
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Here is a 74 underfolder. The picture is dated 1988, but the rifle would have likely been a pre-1985 model given the wood furniture up front. The "computer pattern" uniform on the guy hints that this rifle would have been issued to Airborne, Spetsnaz or KGB Border Guard soldiers.
Also of interest (to me) on this 74 is the vented gas tube and hooded front sight. 
It's not all that surprising that a AK-74 variant might pop-up that isn't widely known. According to Tantal, "The Russian AK-74 rifle has been the subject of a continuous improvement program beginning with the first hyper-prototypes assembled in the late 1960's and eventual true prototypes of the early 1970's. It appears that every few years, some major design and manufacturing improvements were made on the production lines, and although some were simply individual modifications, others were adopted as a package of changes for a specific Product Improvement Program (PIP). Rifles made between these large scale upgrades can be identified as specific subtypes. Some of these subtypes are undocumented, and some are quite well known today. Sadly, few detailed and accurate literary works exist elaborating on these changes in either Western or Russian reference works. In other words, much of what occurred seems to be lost to the winds of time." |
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Posted: 12/25/2011 8:11:06 PM EDT
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is that wood or bakelite? Mag looks like a painted metal mag too. Interesting to say the least, and it's using an early pattern stock too.
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Posted: 12/26/2011 8:37:47 AM EDT
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is that wood or bakelite? Mag looks like a painted metal mag too. Interesting to say the least, and it's using an early pattern stock too. It's wood up front, and the magazine appears to be bakelite. Although, you might be correct...it could be a painted magazine. The receiver top cover, selector lever and certain other details are correct for the period. The hooded front sight post is an improvement imho. It might be a matter of individual preference, but I find hooded front sights easier to get on target. I'll try to post a higher resolution photo later today so you can better see the details. It's a very interesting 74. I'd love to have a clone of this! |
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Posted: 12/26/2011 8:44:18 AM EDT
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well correct or not, this rifle is really neat and extremely fun to shoot. All the cool factor and no bruised shoulder!
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Posted: 12/26/2011 7:32:55 PM EDT
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While maybe not "correct" I like it and I'd be interested in owning one myself if it was available.
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Posted: 12/26/2011 8:46:24 PM EDT
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Harlan is making some receivers......
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Posted: 12/27/2011 9:10:43 AM EDT
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As promised, here's a larger resolution picture of the rifle above. Me want!!!
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Posted: 12/27/2011 9:39:22 AM EDT
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that looks like a Chinese .223 w/ tapco brake. Chinese wood, Chinese FS, Chinese Gas tube, Chinese etc....
edit to add pic (not mine stole it from web)  add a tapco comp and there ya go |
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Posted: 12/27/2011 10:59:15 AM EDT
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Your right that does look like just a chinese .223
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Posted: 12/27/2011 11:51:00 AM EDT
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Quoted:
that looks like a Chinese .223 w/ tapco brake. Chinese wood, Chinese FS, Chinese Gas tube, Chinese etc.... add a tapco comp and there ya go I had thought about that. The magazine, gas tube and FSB look Chinese. But the picture comes from 1988 and was taken in Votkinsk, USSR. (Definitely no Tapco on that rifle ). The receiver top cover appears to be a Russian Type-C, and selector lever doesn't look Chinese either.
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Posted: 12/27/2011 11:53:50 AM EDT
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If/When you get ready to let that one go, let me know....
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Posted: 12/27/2011 1:01:47 PM EDT
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I liked the AK74 underfolder so much I bought two.
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Posted: 12/27/2011 2:33:20 PM EDT
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But the picture comes from 1988 and was taken in Votkinsk, USSR. (Definitely no Tapco on that rifle ). The receiver top cover appears to be a Russian Type-C, and selector lever doesn't look Chinese either.Did they have airsoft back in 1988 Votkinsk 
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Posted: 12/30/2011 5:36:34 PM EDT
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As to the posed fantasy photo . . .yeah - that's a Chinese type 84S-1 .223 rifle with a painted magazine. Note the semiauto selector stop plate, the semiauto receiver, and that it is an AK47 pattern, not an AKM. And as noted, an aftermarket M14 AK-74 look-alike brake - note there are two centered top ports, not the correct 3 asymmetrical ports.
Now there is a Russian underfolder in 5.45 - the Experimental Model 1973 was an underfolder 5.45 Krink. None of which detracts from the very nice job on the OP's underfolder. |
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Posted: 12/30/2011 6:41:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, spetsnaz was using Chinese .223.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 2:29:29 PM EDT
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Decided to move the AKARS top cover over to the under folder (like Nictra suggested when I first got it)
Was going to try and test AKARS today with Auzie but we were rained out all day. Will try tomorrow though and see how it runs. Here with PO 4x24P 
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Posted: 2/18/2012 3:19:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: You take some good pics man. Decided to move the AKARS top cover over to the under folder (like Nictra suggested when I first got it) Was going to try and test AKARS today with Auzie but we were rained out all day. Will try tomorrow though and see how it runs. Here with PO 4x24P http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Optics/PO4x24P_74UF01.JPG Z |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 4:14:03 PM EDT
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Yeah, that's airsoft. In any case, it's chinese wood.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:32:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: I knew you would! I just knew you couldn't have a rifle w/o a scope man! You have a sickness, and I'm jealous! Are you sure that's the same finish b/c that rifle looks better than before! Decided to move the AKARS top cover over to the under folder (like Nictra suggested when I first got it) Was going to try and test AKARS today with Auzie but we were rained out all day. Will try tomorrow though and see how it runs. Here with PO 4x24P http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Optics/PO4x24P_74UF01.JPG Z |
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