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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Recoil spring wore out? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20230519_123204_jpg-2822029.JPG Buffer after ONE range session. The gas port has to be stupid-huge. Recoil spring wore out? Not even close. It also had a new Wolff extra power AK spring in it. Installed the KNS piston today, and I should have a chance to get it out on Tuesday. Me and a couple of old Teammates are heading out to burn some powder. I'll report back. |
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Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: Not even close. It also had a new Wolff extra power AK spring in it. Installed the KNS piston today, and I should have a chance to get it out on Tuesday. Me and a couple of old Teammates are heading out to burn some powder. I'll report back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20230519_123204_jpg-2822029.JPG Buffer after ONE range session. The gas port has to be stupid-huge. Recoil spring wore out? Not even close. It also had a new Wolff extra power AK spring in it. Installed the KNS piston today, and I should have a chance to get it out on Tuesday. Me and a couple of old Teammates are heading out to burn some powder. I'll report back. That's nuts. I put a wolff spring in mine and recoil buffer, mine looks nothing like yours after about 100 rounds. You'd think ATI would use the same hole size for all of their barrels. Wonder if there's someway you could figure out what size it is with different wire sizes or something down the gasblock Attached File Those are what sizes they should be, wonder if they used #25 for the whole thing. |
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Something tells me that it's still going to run just fine even with maximum gas bleed-off. Lol!
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The rifle still "ran" even with maximum gas bleed. Still way overgassed, but now an unreliable POS. Done with this thing and it's going back.
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Failures to feed now for some reason, and at least once where a spent casing worked its way back into the lock work.
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Yikes this thread made me remember why I don't buy galils and to stick to normal AKs that I at least have steel tomwork with on the rcvr!
What an ATI mess these are. Shame cause they look nice!! |
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Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: The rifle still "ran" even with maximum gas bleed. Still way overgassed, but now an unreliable POS. Done with this thing and it's going back. View Quote ATI or JRA? I saw you had a buffer, did you add it or did it come with it? My POS James River Armory Galil still needs to go back to them. The only fix for the ATI Galil pistol is to re-barrel it. I'd be tempted to buy another one and have it rebarreled to 18 inches. Last I looked Tiger imports is out of Nitride Galil barrels, again. |
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Originally Posted By drobs: ATI or JRA? I saw you had a buffer, did you add it or did it come with it? My POS James River Armory Galil still needs to go back to them. The only fix for the ATI Galil pistol is to re-barrel it. I'd be tempted to buy another one and have it rebarreled to 18 inches. Last I looked Tiger imports is out of Nitride Galil barrels, again. View Quote Did you install the kns on the Jra? Fun fact on the Jra it will slam fire too. |
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Originally Posted By drobs: ATI or JRA? I saw you had a buffer, did you add it or did it come with it? My POS James River Armory Galil still needs to go back to them. The only fix for the ATI Galil pistol is to re-barrel it. I'd be tempted to buy another one and have it rebarreled to 18 inches. Last I looked Tiger imports is out of Nitride Galil barrels, again. View Quote ATI. Spoke with them this morning. I added the buffer and a Wolff extra power spring, trying to slow down that crazy bolt carrier. Didn't even touch it. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Did you install the kns on the Jra? Fun fact on the Jra it will slam fire too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rosta97: Originally Posted By drobs: ATI or JRA? I saw you had a buffer, did you add it or did it come with it? My POS James River Armory Galil still needs to go back to them. The only fix for the ATI Galil pistol is to re-barrel it. I'd be tempted to buy another one and have it rebarreled to 18 inches. Last I looked Tiger imports is out of Nitride Galil barrels, again. Did you install the kns on the Jra? Fun fact on the Jra it will slam fire too. My ATI did it too. Cuz the free floating firing pin. Gotta keep it clean I guess. Not sure what else to do besides get a new bolt. |
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Originally Posted By AZ5326X2: ATI. Spoke with them this morning. I added the buffer and a Wolff extra power spring, trying to slow down that crazy bolt carrier. Didn't even touch it. View Quote Their CS is pretty good. Make sure to remove your spring and buffer. Also not sure if I'd mention replacing parts or using mags other than the promag. Their warranty card that comes with it mentions some stuff. That and when I sent mine in it looks like they swapped parts. |
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Finally got mine out to shoot. Only ran 4 mags through it. One failure to extract. Not sure why. It throws empties about 30 feet away. Runs with the Tapco mag and surplus mags. I may look into a KNS piston for this. Fun little gun. We'll see how it holds up.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: @AZ5326X2 You get your gun back yet? View Quote ATI has had the gun for two weeks now. Figured it would take a bit to get it back. No rush on my end, but I will note that I had to send a SIG 5.56 Rattler upper at the same time. I've already gotten the Rattler back and have already shot the shit outta it to confirm its fixed...looking at you, ATI... |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Their CS is pretty good. Make sure to remove your spring and buffer. Also not sure if I'd mention replacing parts or using mags other than the promag. Their warranty card that comes with it mentions some stuff. That and when I sent mine in it looks like they swapped parts. View Quote Did you get ATI to rebarrel yours? |
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Originally Posted By drobs: Did you get ATI to rebarrel yours? View Quote Ha, ya. And left me with other issues. The gastube was about 1/8-1/4" too far back so I got to sand and file to get the carrier to close like it should and also cut the dust cover. I sent it back twice then just said screw it and had them send me a dust cover. And swapped out the bolt for one that fit better. Runs great now, but the headspace/receiver was obviously complete crap. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Ha, ya. And left me with other issues. The gastube was about 1/8-1/4" too far back so I got to sand and file to get the carrier to close like it should and also cut the dust cover. I sent it back twice then just said screw it and had them send me a dust cover. And swapped out the bolt for one that fit better. Runs great now, but the headspace/receiver was obviously complete crap. View Quote Crazy. That was a smart idea in theory though - having them do it. Too bad it didn't work out. I'm happy with my ATI now but just can't recommend anyone else buy one. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: https://dahlonegaarmory.com/product/ati-galeo-pistol-5.56-13-tf-blade-psb-30rd#product_detail View Quote And Royal Tiger Imports has more barrels. https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm |
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Originally Posted By drobs: And Royal Tiger Imports has more barrels. https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm View Quote Ya I still have 2 from the last round. I'm a glutton for punishment and just ordered a receiver from Atlantic to mount one on. Atlantic said they haven't had issues from people with ATI receivers, so maybe the average home builder is more capable than ATIs gunsmifs. I'm thinking ATIs gas ports are already predrilled, only thing that makes sense on how bad they did mine. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Ya I still have 2 from the last round. I'm a glutton for punishment and just ordered a receiver from Atlantic to mount one on. Atlantic said they haven't had issues from people with ATI receivers, so maybe the average home builder is more capable than ATIs gunsmifs. I'm thinking ATIs gas ports are already predrilled, only thing that makes sense on how bad they did mine. View Quote I would take what Atlantic says with a grain of salt. They're in the business of selling stuff. They also said that they didn't have any issues with IO AKs. |
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Originally Posted By AEnemaBay: I would take what Atlantic says with a grain of salt. They're in the business of selling stuff. They also said that they didn't have any issues with IO AKs. View Quote Just picked it up. ATI stepped up their game, time will tell if it's just lipstick on a pig, but they put the S F markings where the thumb safety is and also put notches where the selector is. I did a rough fit with my barrel installed and the bolt sits pretty good. If they figured out the heat treat problem then the receiver for 360 is a steal. Has a better coating as well. The one I got is in the 5500 range, my ghetto SAR is in the low 4000. |
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I'm still waiting on ATI to send mine back. They've had it since June.
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And I'm STILL waiting on these clowns. Emailed last week for a follow-up: crickets.
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Yikes this thread made me remember why I don't buy galils and to stick to normal AKs that I at least have steel tomwork with on the rcvr! What an ATI mess these are. Shame cause they look nice!! View Quote These Galeos are junk. I saw ATI at a major gun trade show around 2018 and they were showing off these ATI Galeos preproduction. I asked the rep what kind of barrels were in them, he didn't know and went and found the owner of the company. The owner had no idea what kind of barrels were in the gun but said "They're good they shoot dime sized groups". I knew at that moment if no one in the company knew what kind of barrels these thing had, there is no way they know anything about what they're building. These are garbage rods. |
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I watched these two videos and many more, before I purchased my ATI Galeo a month ago. I admit that I know next to nothing about these things so maybe that is why I was impressed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJm7V-p86c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXT5G0UuZM |
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Originally Posted By DoorKicker: I watched these two videos and many more, before I purchased my ATI Galeo a month ago. I admit that I know next to nothing about these things so maybe that is why I was impressed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJm7V-p86c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXT5G0UuZM View Quote Those are the older ARMs they sold. What I gathered is that whoever they used for materials and/or gunsmiths to build them knew what they were doing and the later SARs weren't as good. Can't remember were I was reading but people weren't too thrilled when the SARs first hit the market, guess someone in the know knew how they'd be. You can also search online and find out the receiver serial range that people had the most problems with and what the most common problem was( headspace). Maybe they finally fixed their issues with the SARs/receivers, or you just got a good one. Possible the ARMs were built by actual Israelis or the people who they trained at ATI, then after they left things went to trash. |
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A gun store about an hour north of me has a used ATI Galeo pistol for about $775.
Thinking about getting it, as a companion to my ATI Galeo 16" rifle (008xx serial range.) Haven't fired my rifle yet, but when I was testing out a couple of surplus magazines I bought last weekend with some dummy rounds, I encountered a problem with my trigger. I would rack the slide, but the selector switch would not go to "F," nor would it go to "S" trigger was frozen. I took the dust cover off the top, racked the slide, and watched the hammer. The hammer would go so far down, the claws would latch onto the the little shelf and immobilize the trigger. I reset the hammer, to where it should be tethered when cocked, and the selector would function normally. I reassembled the rifle, put the top cover back on. Sometimes it would function check normally, cycle dummy rounds normally, but then the hammer would go back too far and get captured. Is this trigger problem something that will go away once the rifle has been "broken in" by firing several hundred rounds? Should I send it back to ATI and pay to have their gunsmith look it over? Should I have a local gunsmith look it over and avoid the shipping and waiting? Is it cursed by poor QC and I should just sell it and the two dozen mags I accumulated to just spare myself the frustration? As for the pistol?: Are they all cursed, or did any reliable ones leave the factory? |
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Originally Posted By JTF-B: A gun store about an hour north of me has a used ATI Galeo pistol for about $775. Thinking about getting it, as a companion to my ATI Galeo 16" rifle (008xx serial range.) Haven't fired my rifle yet, but when I was testing out a couple of surplus magazines I bought last weekend with some dummy rounds, I encountered a problem with my trigger. I would rack the slide, but the selector switch would not go to "F," nor would it go to "S" trigger was frozen. I took the dust cover off the top, racked the slide, and watched the hammer. The hammer would go so far down, the claws would latch onto the the little shelf and immobilize the trigger. I reset the hammer, to where it should be tethered when cocked, and the selector would function normally. I reassembled the rifle, put the top cover back on. Sometimes it would function check normally, cycle dummy rounds normally, but then the hammer would go back too far and get captured. Is this trigger problem something that will go away once the rifle has been "broken in" by firing several hundred rounds? Should I send it back to ATI and pay to have their gunsmith look it over? Should I have a local gunsmith look it over and avoid the shipping and waiting? Is it cursed by poor QC and I should just sell it and the two dozen mags I accumulated to just spare myself the frustration? As for the pistol?: Are they all cursed, or did any reliable ones leave the factory? View Quote Go shoot your rifle. Hand cycling doesn't show you shit. Hate to be blunt. A barrel swap and trimming the flag on the safety fixed my ATI pistol / now rifle. |
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Originally Posted By drobs: Go shoot your rifle. Hand cycling doesn't show you shit. Hate to be blunt. A barrel swap and trimming the flag on the safety fixed my ATI pistol / now rifle. View Quote Went to the store with the range behind it. Bought the pistol. Brought the rifle. Shot the pistol. It shot correctly, feeding and cycling from both Tapco and surplus steel mags. As this was the shortest barrel (13") I have ever fired 5.56 from, the added noise and muzzle blast was a new experience. Shot the rifle. It cycled rounds from both kinds of mags. It shot a few rounds, then, the hammer stopped resetting. Opened it up, pushed back on the disconnector, allowing the hammer to rise to the proper position. Fired a couple of rounds, then it happened again. Showed the malfunction to one of the store's armorers, who was acting as one of the range safety officers. He examined it and told me the hammer would go back low enough for the back end of the hammer to be grabbed by the disconnector. Basically, the disconnector was not allowing the hammer to re-set. The gunsmith thought that shaving a little bit of material off the disconnector might prevent it from binding up the hammer. Time to talk to ATI and ask them to fix it, or should I find someone local? |
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Based on the other members in this thread experiences sending theirs into ATI, I'd try to find someone local to work on it.
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June will be ONE YEAR since I sent mine in...
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Wonder what would happen if you reported it stolen View Quote 1. He would be filing a false report...it wasn't taken in a theft, it's a civil matter. 2. If it was reported and entered as stolen, nothing would happen until the serial number was ran through NCIC for some reason...not likely to happen unless someone doing something sketchy had it in their possession and came into contact with LE. And even then, unless the recovering agency is somewhat local to you the chances of you getting it back are slim...I had a G19 stolen from me (I'm pretty sure it was an ex I had just broken up with, but couldn't prove it), I filed a stolen report with my local PD and they entered the SN# into NCIC. About 7 years later a patrol officer showed up at my door and said it had been recovered in connection with a crime somewhere in Illinois (I'm in Alabama). Both the PD and myself attempted contact with the recovering agency with no results. I'm assuming it was either destroyed after the accompanying criminal case was resolved or an officer with the recovery agency now has a free Gen3 19. |
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Originally Posted By kwb377: 1. He would be filing a false report...it wasn't taken in a theft, it's a civil matter. 2. If it was reported and entered as stolen, nothing would happen until the serial number was ran through NCIC for some reason...not likely to happen unless someone doing something sketchy had it in their possession and came into contact with LE. And even then, unless the recovering agency is somewhat local to you the chances of you getting it back are slim...I had a G19 stolen from me (I'm pretty sure it was an ex I had just broken up with, but couldn't prove it), I filed a stolen report with my local PD and they entered the SN# into NCIC. About 7 years later a patrol officer showed up at my door and said it had been recovered in connection with a crime somewhere in Illinois (I'm in Alabama). Both the PD and myself attempted contact with the recovering agency with no results. I'm assuming it was either destroyed after the accompanying criminal case was resolved or an officer with the recovery agency now has a free Gen3 19. View Quote Are we sure? I mailed mine off twice to them and both times took about 6 weeks round trip, and don't think I've read them taking 9 months on this forum or others. There is obviously something more going on than just them fixing it. |
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Can anyone who has a Galeo pistol tell me what type (commercial/military) AR buffer tube/receiver extension it is threaded for?
Is there a pistol brace that both folds and collapses that will fit on this pistol? |
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Originally Posted By JTF-B: Can anyone who has a Galeo pistol tell me what type (commercial/military) AR buffer tube/receiver extension it is threaded for? Is there a pistol brace that both folds and collapses that will fit on this pistol? View Quote It's threaded for a Milspec buffer tube. Before my pistol transitioned to a rifle I had it setup like this: Attached File You could add an AR brace to this and have a folder: https://www.bonesteelarms.com/product/galil-collapsible-m4-style-folding-stock/ Or put those $ toward converting it into a rifle via a barrel swap or welded on barrel extension. https://atlanticfirearms.com/galil-sar-muzzle-brake-extension And then use the standard surplus Galil folding stock. I would recommend a barrel swap, unless you got one that actually feeds, fires, and ejects. |
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Originally Posted By drobs: It's threaded for a Milspec buffer tube. Before my pistol transitioned to a rifle I had it setup like this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/ATI_Galil_JPG-3169863.JPG You could add an AR brace to this and have a folder: https://www.bonesteelarms.com/product/galil-collapsible-m4-style-folding-stock/ Or put those $ toward converting it into a rifle via a barrel swap or welded on barrel extension. https://atlanticfirearms.com/galil-sar-muzzle-brake-extension And then use the standard surplus Galil folding stock. I would recommend a barrel swap, unless you got one that actually feeds, fires, and ejects. View Quote Thank you, Drobs. My pistol feeds, fires, and ejects just fine, but it came without a tube. Depending upon how the brace issue is decided, I am leaning towards turning it into an SBR at 13, with something different than the issue stock, as I already have SAR. The Bonesteel Arms looks like a winner, but the pictures of the stock make me wonder how would I attach it to the back of Galeo. |
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Originally Posted By JTF-B: Thank you, Drobs. My pistol feeds, fires, and ejects just fine, but it came without a tube. Depending upon how the brace issue is decided, I am leaning towards turning it into an SBR at 13, with something different than the issue stock, as I already have SAR. The Bonesteel Arms looks like a winner, but the pictures of the stock make me wonder how would I attach it to the back of Galeo. View Quote I would think it attaches the same way the original / buffer tube adapter does with a pin. But agree those pics don't show the hole in the side of the block. My ATI Galil pistol would feed, fire, eject then have a broken shell casing at the end of each magazine. Turns out the head spacing was way off. |
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Attached File Mine shipped with the buffer tube only, no brace. I replaced it all with the CNC Warrior folding brace. The threaded receiver for the buffer tube is pinned into the receiver exactly like original Galil stock would be. You drive the pin out and slide the CNC brace in. Drill a hole, and drive the pin back in. Very easy and nice and tight |
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Resurrecting this thread as I've seen some low prices on ATI receivers - Are the receivers acceptable? Seems like a lot of the build issues are off spec assembly? not sure eif anyone had experience with virgin receivers.
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Resurrecting this thread as I've seen some low prices on ATI receivers - Are the receivers acceptable? Seems like a lot of the build issues are off spec assembly? not sure eif anyone had experience with virgin receivers. View Quote If you're just building a blaster they might be worth a try, an actual period correct investment type gun not so much. I got a "factory" built ATI pistol that was a nightmare at first and they had to get it out of spec in other areas to get the headspace OK. I just built an "AR" type on a ATI receiver that so far I haven't had any real issues with, maybe they fixed their issues or maybe I just got lucky, or maybe after watching 3 YT videos I could build a better gun than ATIs "gunsmifs" Short answer, they're probably hit or miss. If you know what you're doing I'd probably take a chance on one. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: If you're just building a blaster they might be worth a try, an actual period correct investment type gun not so much. I got a "factory" built ATI pistol that was a nightmare at first and they had to get it out of spec in other areas to get the headspace OK. I just built an "AR" type on a ATI receiver that so far I haven't had any real issues with, maybe they fixed their issues or maybe I just got lucky, or maybe after watching 3 YT videos I could build a better gun than ATIs "gunsmifs" Short answer, they're probably hit or miss. If you know what you're doing I'd probably take a chance on one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By cherenkov: Resurrecting this thread as I've seen some low prices on ATI receivers - Are the receivers acceptable? Seems like a lot of the build issues are off spec assembly? not sure eif anyone had experience with virgin receivers. If you're just building a blaster they might be worth a try, an actual period correct investment type gun not so much. I got a "factory" built ATI pistol that was a nightmare at first and they had to get it out of spec in other areas to get the headspace OK. I just built an "AR" type on a ATI receiver that so far I haven't had any real issues with, maybe they fixed their issues or maybe I just got lucky, or maybe after watching 3 YT videos I could build a better gun than ATIs "gunsmifs" Short answer, they're probably hit or miss. If you know what you're doing I'd probably take a chance on one. My ATI receiver was fine. My ATI Galil's barrel had spacers placed between it and the receiver which threw off the head spacing. "In spec" & "out of spec," doesn't really have any meaning in regards to building what is essentially an AK with a new receiver and new barrel from a parts kit. My guess is ATI tried to simplify the build process by... 1. Drilling the gas port in the barrel and adding the gas block as 1 step. 2. Then they screwed the assembled barrel into the receiver. When the barrel wouldn't time right with the gas block centered, they added spacers. The problem is that doesn't work for AK builds with new receivers and new barrels. The un-drilled (gas port) barrel needs to be screwed into the receiver, then the gas port needs to be drilled. Then the gas block installed. The gas tube may or may not need to be fitted (shortened). Then they get to play with bolts. I built a few AK's back in the day. The ones I built had original barrels. I didn't want the additional hassle of dealing with a new barrel and stopped building AK's when original complete barrels were cut as part of the demil process. |
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Originally Posted By drobs: My ATI receiver was fine. My ATI Galil's barrel had spacers placed between it and the receiver which threw off the head spacing. "In spec" & "out of spec," doesn't really have any meaning in regards to building what is essentially an AK with a new receiver and new barrel from a parts kit. My guess is ATI tried to simplify the build process by... 1. Drilling the gas port in the barrel and adding the gas block as 1 step. 2. Then they screwed the assembled barrel into the receiver. When the barrel wouldn't time right with the gas block centered, they added spacers. The problem is that doesn't work for AK builds with new receivers and new barrels. The un-drilled (gas port) barrel needs to be screwed into the receiver, then the gas port needs to be drilled. Then the gas block installed. The gas tube may or may not need to be fitted (shortened). Then they get to play with bolts. I built a few AK's back in the day. The ones I built had original barrels. I didn't want the additional hassle of dealing with a new barrel and stopped building AK's when original complete barrels were cut as part of the demil process. View Quote Fair enough. But I would atleast expect them to make a gun the customer doesn't have to fix themselves. And ya, what you said makes sense about them trying to streamline it, but sounds like it has just cost them more time and money to "fix" |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Fair enough. But I would atleast expect them to make a gun the customer doesn't have to fix themselves. And ya, what you said makes sense about them trying to streamline it, but sounds like it has just cost them more time and money to "fix" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By drobs: My ATI receiver was fine. My ATI Galil's barrel had spacers placed between it and the receiver which threw off the head spacing. "In spec" & "out of spec," doesn't really have any meaning in regards to building what is essentially an AK with a new receiver and new barrel from a parts kit. My guess is ATI tried to simplify the build process by... 1. Drilling the gas port in the barrel and adding the gas block as 1 step. 2. Then they screwed the assembled barrel into the receiver. When the barrel wouldn't time right with the gas block centered, they added spacers. The problem is that doesn't work for AK builds with new receivers and new barrels. The un-drilled (gas port) barrel needs to be screwed into the receiver, then the gas port needs to be drilled. Then the gas block installed. The gas tube may or may not need to be fitted (shortened). Then they get to play with bolts. I built a few AK's back in the day. The ones I built had original barrels. I didn't want the additional hassle of dealing with a new barrel and stopped building AK's when original complete barrels were cut as part of the demil process. Fair enough. But I would atleast expect them to make a gun the customer doesn't have to fix themselves. And ya, what you said makes sense about them trying to streamline it, but sounds like it has just cost them more time and money to "fix" Not trying to diss you but just wanted to clarify their fucked up build process. I do have to wonder if they didn't just grab another assembled barrel and put it on your return vs doing it the correct way. |
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Thanks for the replies, seems like the receiver may be acceptable - but the assembly ATI has done was not so good. Seems like lots of builders struggle with efficiency cost and quality balance in making AKs.
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