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Posted: 7/1/2024 9:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Kinda want. Love my 380 S&W one. Never had any problem with it since the first round FTE'd. Thousands of rounds through it so far. The .32 would be fun IMO. Would probably get the stainless one if I get one. What's a good factory and available round for these? Never had a .32 before. Get some PPU fmj. It's loaded pretty warm. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 12:30:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: I have been shooting 32 in PPK's for over 30 years and the ball ammo is ok. I have had some success with the Fiocchi with a soft nosed hollow point. I can't recall the name of it off the top of my head. I have had feed issues in other PPK's shooting the flat nose bullets. Not a lot of issues but enough I won't carry it. These are the reason why I went with the monolithic ammunition. If i can get the reliability of the ball and a bit better performance, why not run that ammo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: Originally Posted By Gunnie357: I’ve not seen a 32 test of the screwdriver bullet in ordinance gel. Lots in clear gel. Consensus has pretty much always been that FMJ works. It’s also half the cost of the screwdriver bullets to get FMJ 32 ammo. Or for less then underwood you could get 32acp flat nose hard cast from Buffalo Bore if you were so inclined. I have been shooting 32 in PPK's for over 30 years and the ball ammo is ok. I have had some success with the Fiocchi with a soft nosed hollow point. I can't recall the name of it off the top of my head. I have had feed issues in other PPK's shooting the flat nose bullets. Not a lot of issues but enough I won't carry it. These are the reason why I went with the monolithic ammunition. If i can get the reliability of the ball and a bit better performance, why not run that ammo. I certainly wouldn’t run anything unreliable if that’s the case with the flat nose I’d avoid it as you have. I had poor performance with flat nose fmj in my tomcat. As for the monolithic it begs the question as to if it’s a better performing bullet or is it something that simply plays on the properties of gel to appear better. We may never know and I hope none of us have to find out I just wish there were some good tests in organic gel. With any luck maybe since there bringing out things that perform well in 380 we will eventually get more in 32 |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 10:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: What's the difference between them? I'd like to get one myself. The PPK/s has a slightly longer grip length and holds one more round. Essentially it's a PP frame with a PPK slide and barrel. The PPK has a shorter grip, holds one round less, and the grip panels wrap around the back strap. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 11:26:00 AM EDT
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I've never owned a .32ACP. I'd be temped by a PPK.
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Posted: 7/2/2024 11:57:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: luv_the_huskers]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lumpy196: I've never owned a .32ACP. I'd be temped by a PPK. You should get one. The 32 for all its faults is a wonderful round to shoot, especially in this platform I find. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 12:39:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lumpy196: I've never owned a .32ACP. I'd be temped by a PPK. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 12:48:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BM1455]
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Not sure about the "warmer" PPU FMJ ammo but +P is probably not a good idea. I know my S&W .380 PPK said not to use +P and if you did it voided the warrantee. These older gun designs were not designed to handle that I would guess.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:08:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: The PPK/s has a slightly longer grip length and holds one more round. Essentially it's a PP frame with a PPK slide and barrel. The PPK has a shorter grip, holds one round less, and the grip panels wrap around the back strap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: What's the difference between them? I'd like to get one myself. The PPK/s has a slightly longer grip length and holds one more round. Essentially it's a PP frame with a PPK slide and barrel. The PPK has a shorter grip, holds one round less, and the grip panels wrap around the back strap. Thanks. Did some research last night. Think I'm gonna get the stainless 32 PPKS. My nephew just bought the black ppks in 380 lol. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:18:54 PM EDT
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I’m glad I just saw this. I didn’t know that a new 32 was being made. I’m especially interested in a version of the Walther after my disappointment in handling the new Beretta revamped 32. Thanks guys for the heads up.
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Posted: 7/2/2024 3:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Thanks. Did some research last night. Think I'm gonna get the stainless 32 PPKS. My nephew just bought the black ppks in 380 lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By BlitzPig: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: What's the difference between them? I'd like to get one myself. The PPK/s has a slightly longer grip length and holds one more round. Essentially it's a PP frame with a PPK slide and barrel. The PPK has a shorter grip, holds one round less, and the grip panels wrap around the back strap. Thanks. Did some research last night. Think I'm gonna get the stainless 32 PPKS. My nephew just bought the black ppks in 380 lol. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 4:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Not sure about the "warmer" PPU FMJ ammo but +P is probably not a good idea. I know my S&W .380 PPK said not to use +P and if you did it voided the warrantee. These older gun designs were not designed to handle that I would guess. The current manual says +P+ is a no go but +P might cause premature wear. The same thing every other manufacturer says. It does not expressly say it is prohibited. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 9:07:09 AM EDT
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What have people been paying for the new .32 PPK/PPKS?
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Posted: 7/3/2024 9:36:56 AM EDT
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Still haven't seen a SINGLE new PPK (NOT PPK/s) in .32ACP on Gunbroker - or anywhere else ready to purchase for that matter.
I am talking about new production ones |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: Well, I caved and ordered a new PPK in .32. What the hell, you only live once, and I've wanted a PPK for a long time. Pics, etc, when I get the thing. luv_the_huskers brings up an important point about the PP series. Historically they can be fussy about ammo, even ball. My above pictured PP chokes on ANY of the US made brands, and runs flawlessly on the S&B ball ammo. I have heard that these new Ft. Smith versions are less averse to ammo types and can actually cycle hollow points reliably. I have several brands/types I will test with and try to verify this. What are you shooting w/ hollowpoints in .32 ACP? |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 12:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: What are you shooting w/ hollowpoints in .32 ACP? Not for self defense use, only ball for that because of better penetration. I purchased a case of the PPU 71gr. JHPs some time ago because that was all I could get at the time. They make nice holes in paper targets, much like a wadcutter. As for price, I ordered from Grab A Gun, asked for a "Grab A Quote" and they knocked $90 off their web site price, so $808, plus tax and shipping. Got a note from them that it shipped today. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 8:09:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: luv_the_huskers]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solo_: Still haven't seen a SINGLE new PPK (NOT PPK/s) in .32ACP on Gunbroker - or anywhere else ready to purchase for that matter. I am talking about new production ones @Solo Here you go Mine came from GunZoneDeals. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 8:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye33: I’m glad I just saw this. I didn’t know that a new 32 was being made. I’m especially interested in a version of the Walther after my disappointment in handling the new Beretta revamped 32. Thanks guys for the heads up. What didn't you like about it? I was thinking of getting one because I love the 80 series guns. I have them in 32 and 380. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: I lieu of a PP in .32...I think you will really like the PPK/S Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By BlitzPig: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: What's the difference between them? I'd like to get one myself. The PPK/s has a slightly longer grip length and holds one more round. Essentially it's a PP frame with a PPK slide and barrel. The PPK has a shorter grip, holds one round less, and the grip panels wrap around the back strap. Thanks. Did some research last night. Think I'm gonna get the stainless 32 PPKS. My nephew just bought the black ppks in 380 lol. I think so too. I like the larger grip frame. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 9:49:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: What didn't you like about it? I was thinking of getting one because I love the 80 series guns. I have them in 32 and 380. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By Buckeye33: I’m glad I just saw this. I didn’t know that a new 32 was being made. I’m especially interested in a version of the Walther after my disappointment in handling the new Beretta revamped 32. Thanks guys for the heads up. What didn't you like about it? I was thinking of getting one because I love the 80 series guns. I have them in 32 and 380. To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I’ve owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 9:59:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye33: To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I’ve owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 11:57:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By Buckeye33: To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I've owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 12:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySheeeeIT thanks brother
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Posted: 7/4/2024 1:37:27 PM EDT
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@raygixxer89, are you talking about the 80X which is only available in .380 or the new 30X Bobcat which is the .32acp pistol?
I looked at the 30X at a local FFL and while I feel it is an improvement on the old model Bobcats, could not justify it's price point, and I initially wanted one, a thought that was vaporized by the release of the PPK in .32. |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 10:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: As a counter point to Buckeye on the new Beretta; I thought the new 80X was a hideous looking gun (and I still do) BUT when checking one out at a local shop, I found it VERY comfortable. I just couldn't find it in me to purchase something so ugly. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By Buckeye33: To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I've owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. As a counter point to Buckeye on the new Beretta; I thought the new 80X was a hideous looking gun (and I still do) BUT when checking one out at a local shop, I found it VERY comfortable. I just couldn't find it in me to purchase something so ugly. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. I mean, I haz a Dremel, an FFL, & a diploma from WECSOG. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 10:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: As a counter point to Buckeye on the new Beretta; I thought the new 80X was a hideous looking gun (and I still do) BUT when checking one out at a local shop, I found it VERY comfortable. I just couldn't find it in me to purchase something so ugly. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By Buckeye33: To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I've owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. If it feels similar to the original 84 I think I'll like it. The 84 just feels really good in my hand.sure, the 80x looks different, but I don't think it's ugly. I can't wait to fondle one, now. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 10:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: @raygixxer89, are you talking about the 80X which is only available in .380 or the new 30X Bobcat which is the .32acp pistol? I looked at the 30X at a local FFL and while I feel it is an improvement on the old model Bobcats, could not justify it's price point, and I initially wanted one, a thought that was vaporized by the release of the PPK in .32. I mean the 80x in 380. I have a second gen INOX Tomcat and think it's a hoot to load and shoot. I've ever pocket carried it on occasion. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:17:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: If it feels similar to the original 84 I think I'll like it. The 84 just feels really good in my hand.sure, the 80x looks different, but I don't think it's ugly. I can't wait to fondle one, now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By raygixxer89: Originally Posted By Buckeye33: To sum it up, it just did not fit my hand at all. I've owned and shot the 22,25,and 32 in the previous generation and liked them. The new one just feels off and the new beaver tail was horrendous. I wear a medium size glove and was very disappointed at how much it felt like the dimensions were wrong. I too am a fan of the 80 series Beretta pistols especially in 32. Thanks for the info. I was looking at them online and was thinking of ordering one. I guess I'll see how it feels in my hand first. I am curious to see if you find it comfortable or not. Speaking of which; I wonder if any custom smiths out there will offer bobtail cutting for the grotesque beaver tail on the new Walthers. If it feels similar to the original 84 I think I'll like it. The 84 just feels really good in my hand.sure, the 80x looks different, but I don't think it's ugly. I can't wait to fondle one, now.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2024 6:11:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: raygixxer89]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: I really want to see how it feels to you. It was like a glove to me. Just a really ugly glove.  I'll probably like then. I'll have to hold off, though. I was in Houston to see my sister and family and to check out a used SIG P224 in Pearland, like new. I bought it and a brand new SIG P220 Elite FDE in 10mm. @desertmoon |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 12:29:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: I'll probably like then. I'll have to hold off, though. I was in Houston to see my sister and family and to check out a used SIG P224 in Pearland, like new. I bought it and a brand new SIG P220 Elite FDE in 10mm. @desertmoon 10mm is the best mm.....so...good choice! |
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Posted: 7/11/2024 3:51:17 PM EDT
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Picked up my new .32 PPK this afternoon, and immediately ran 162 rounds down the tube.
 I found the sights amazingly easy to pick up, and accuracy was quite good for a guy with 70 year old eyes that normally doesn't do well with short sight radius pistols. The S&B FMJ I shot was trouble free for 50 rounds, as were the 12 I had of Winchester White Box. Then Norma FMJ and PPU FMJ and JHP both were accurate, but had numerous stove pipe issues. I am tempted to place the blame on me as I have been in hospital and an still not as strong as I was, so maybe it was a grip problem, or perhaps a break in issue with the pistol. More testing will verify this. The fit and finish are really good, with no tool marks anywhere. All the controls are smooth in operation, and the trigger is quite a bit better than my pre WW2 PP. The single action pull measure 3.32lbs on my Lyman digital gauge. The DA is somewhere over 11 lbs, probably closer to 13. I am quite pleased so far. |
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Posted: 7/11/2024 8:59:46 PM EDT
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Keep us posted. I am curious to see what you find on the stovepipes.
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Posted: 7/11/2024 9:55:25 PM EDT
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After cleaning the pistol tonight, I was thinking more about this, and decided to measure the rims of the ammo that I shot today.
Lo and behold the brands that I had issues with had rim diameters .001" smaller than the S&B that worked flawlessly. Hard to believe that tiny difference mattered, but it's all I got right now. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2024 8:59:18 AM EDT
[#33]
The stainless looks nice! I’m still waiting for the blued ones to come out.
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Posted: 7/12/2024 2:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: After cleaning the pistol tonight, I was thinking more about this, and decided to measure the rims of the ammo that I shot today. Lo and behold the brands that I had issues with had rim diameters .001" smaller than the S&B that worked flawlessly. Hard to believe that tiny difference mattered, but it's all I got right now. thanks for the update. I'm assuming you felt the recoil was manageable? |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 4:27:10 PM EDT
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Recoil is not an issue at all for me. It's a 32, not 9mm Makarov.
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Posted: 7/30/2024 4:21:54 PM EDT
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Went back to the range this afternoon and put more rounds through the .32 PPK. 25 S&B, 50 American Eagle, and 50 Magtec, all FMJ.
I am happy to report that except for one Magtec that stovepiped, which I am blaming on me (bad grip/rushed shot) my PPK digested all of the rounds without issue, and ejected them with authority. And wow is this little thing accurate. I suspect it is related to break in, as the pistol was fairly tight out of the box. I now have a total of 337 rounds through it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2024 4:25:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2024 9:57:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stk016]
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Just a heads up for those who qualify (mil vet for me), the .32 ACP PPK/PPKs stainless and black are available through expertvoice at a significant discount.
Ordering the black PPK tonight, says 30-45 days to process so we will see what happens. |
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Posted: 8/5/2024 9:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: Went back to the range this afternoon and put more rounds through the .32 PPK. 25 S&B, 50 American Eagle, and 50 Magtec, all FMJ. I am happy to report that except for one Magtec that stovepiped, which I am blaming on me (bad grip/rushed shot) my PPK digested all of the rounds without issue, and ejected them with authority. And wow is this little thing accurate. I suspect it is related to break in, as the pistol was fairly tight out of the box. I now have a total of 337 rounds through it. Blowback pistols have fixed barrels, which lend themselves to accuracy. |
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Posted: 8/6/2024 7:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: Went back to the range this afternoon and put more rounds through the .32 PPK. 25 S&B, 50 American Eagle, and 50 Magtec, all FMJ. I am happy to report that except for one Magtec that stovepiped, which I am blaming on me (bad grip/rushed shot) my PPK digested all of the rounds without issue, and ejected them with authority. And wow is this little thing accurate. I suspect it is related to break in, as the pistol was fairly tight out of the box. I now have a total of 337 rounds through it. |
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Posted: 8/6/2024 7:42:53 AM EDT
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That beaver tail needs to go, it ruins the lines of the pistol.
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Posted: 8/6/2024 8:01:06 AM EDT
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I won’t disagree about the lines but in my 380 I find no issues comfort wise
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Posted: 8/6/2024 12:03:31 PM EDT
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While the long beaver tail is not very good looking, it goes a long way to alleviating slide bite and is in no way causing any discomfort
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Posted: 8/6/2024 1:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By centurian318: That beaver tail needs to go, it ruins the lines of the pistol. @evnash disagrees: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Smith-and-Wesson-Bodyguard-2-0-a-really-good-small-380/5-2739776/&page=3#i110066301 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 7:39:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: While the long beaver tail is not very good looking, it goes a long way to alleviating slide bite and is in no way causing any discomfort |
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Posted: 9/21/2024 11:23:24 AM EDT
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Factory threaded option in blued and stainless announced
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2024 4:29:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: --FLEET--]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Factory threaded option in blued and stainless announced Saw that in Sootch's YT video. I don't think I can resist the threaded version. So fricken cool |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2024 8:15:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drerickson77]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Factory threaded option in blued and stainless announced I kind of want a .32 ACP PPK for the nostalgia (AKA James Bond) factor. The ability to put my pistol suppressor on it would be very cool too. |
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