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Posted: 10/28/2020 1:54:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Thanks, I have two M9A1’s. I don’t really plan to add an A2. Did L&M refinish the machined area? I need to do some research and decide on which RMR I want. Or if I want to do it on a Steyr at all, versus buying something else that’s already cut. They did, that one was cerakote by them as well. I like steyr so it was a automatic choice for me. That said a pre optic cut is a better choice at it was made that way. This there are problems like how thin of material is left between the cut and the ejector. No issues but it’s a concern. Also between the two I prefer the rmr on my 226 over the deltapoint. My vote is a optics ready model and rmr. Although would be interested to see a acro in more detail |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2020 5:34:00 PM EST
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I got my L9A2 last week and so far I’m not happy with it . Lots of failures to extract at least 2 per mag shooting wwb 115 gr I fired over 300 rounds so far. I spoke to steyr and honestly I’m not sure what to make of my conversation. Basically there gunsmith is blaming the Winchester 115 gr as being to weak and steyr needs good 124 grain or heavier Ammo and that they use 147 gr almost exclusively. I love the way the gun feels in my hand but this lack of reliability is horrible. I own lots of 9mm pistols from a colt 1911 to cz75 Glocks and this is the only pistols i have seen not extract Winchester 115 gr ball .what else did steyr tell me todo clean the extractor and spring and the channeling in,I did that already 😳 then the next sucky news there’s no parts in country yet . They did say I could send it back to them but for what to sit there until they get parts . I guess I’ll be calling them in few weeks to check for parts. The gunsmith seemed like a good dude just trying to todo the best with what he has .
To be clear this is failed to extract not eject . The case is left in the chamber the slide is all the way back trying to pick up the next round for a nice double penetration porn shot. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 7:57:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: Warhawk]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alexfiggy: I got my L9A2 last week and so far I’m not happy with it . Lots of failures to extract at least 2 per mag shooting wwb 115 gr I fired over 300 rounds so far. I spoke to steyr and honestly I’m not sure what to make of my conversation. Basically there gunsmith is blaming the Winchester 115 gr as being to weak and steyr needs good 124 grain or heavier Ammo and that they use 147 gr almost exclusively. I love the way the gun feels in my hand but this lack of reliability is horrible. I own lots of 9mm pistols from a colt 1911 to cz75 Glocks and this is the only pistols i have seen not extract Winchester 115 gr ball .what else did steyr tell me todo clean the extractor and spring and the channeling in,I did that already 😳 then the next sucky news there’s no parts in country yet . They did say I could send it back to them but for what to sit there until they get parts . I guess I’ll be calling them in few weeks to check for parts. The gunsmith seemed like a good dude just trying to todo the best with what he has . To be clear this is failed to extract not eject . The case is left in the chamber the slide is all the way back trying to pick up the next round for a nice double penetration porn shot. I have two M9A1’s and have shot a little of everything in them, Tula, Silver Bear, WWB, IWI hollow point, CCI brass and aluminum, Sellier & Bellot, Fiocchi, and odds and ends of everything else I’ve had. I don’t remember a single malfunction of any kind. It’s a shame that Steyr can’t make the L9A2 with the same reliability. Now I did have an S9A1, that little SOB would throw the brass right back into your face. The fix was supposedly a new extractor, I changed it and it made no difference. The other minus on the S9 is that they all use 10 round magazines, ridiculous for a mid size double stack pistol to only hold 10 rounds. I couldn’t get rid of this one fast enough. It ran well, but at the expense of brass to the face. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2020 10:27:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: I have two M9A1’s and have shot a little of everything in them, Tula, Silver Bear, WWB, IWI hollow point, CCI brass and aluminum, Sellier & Bellot, Fiocchi, and odds and ends of everything else I’ve had. I don’t remember a single malfunction of any kind. It’s a shame that Steyr can’t make the L9A2 with the same reliability. Now I did have an S9A1, that little SOB would throw the brass right back into your face. The fix was supposedly a new extractor, I changed it and it made no difference. The other minus on the S9 is that they all use 10 round magazines, ridiculous for a mid size double stack pistol to only hold 10 rounds. I couldn’t get rid of this one fast enough. It ran well, but at the expense of brass to the face. Ok if you google steyr pistol extractor issues I think you would be quite surprised . I didn’t do my homework when I ordered this pistol . If I did I would’ve not ordered it. Glock 17g5 cz p10 is what I would have ordered . |
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Posted: 11/20/2020 1:03:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alexfiggy: Ok if you google steyr pistol extractor issues I think you would be quite surprised . I didn’t do my homework when I ordered this pistol . If I did I would’ve not ordered it. Glock 17g5 cz p10 is what I would have ordered . Well I have the two M9A1 pistols, no malfunctions. I had the S9A1 no malfunction other than brass to the face. And my brother has an original M40 and an M40A1, no trouble that I’m aware of with either one. I’m confident enough my two Steyrs that they are my SHTF pistols. Meaning one goes everywhere with me in my truck, the other is packed away with a holster and a supply of ammo. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2020 2:15:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: VASCAR2]
[#6]
If the Steyr were mine I’d polish the chamber with Flitz on a barrel mop attached to a short cleaning rod in a hand drill. If you don’t have Flitz you can put oil on a brass brush attached to short cleaning rod and spin with a hand drill. Buzzing the chamber won’t hurt anything and works wonders on 22 rimfires and chambers that are rough. Some Nitride barrels have residue from the Nitride process that was thoroughly cleaned at the factory. This residue can impede functioning and polishing the chamber can’t hurt.
I’ve had terrible luck with Winchester 115 grain FMJ white box. I’ve seen it fail to function in S&W 5906 that was otherwise reliable. I’ve had two malfunctions in my Gen 4 19 with W-W white box 115 grain FMJ. This particular 19.4 has functioned 100% with my reloads and other factory ammo. I’d try hotter ammo like 9x19 nato 123 grain FMJ which might help the pistol wear in. I hope once your Steyr wears in it becomes more reliable |
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Posted: 11/20/2020 4:06:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VASCAR2: If the Steyr were mine I’d polish the chamber with Flitz on a barrel mop attached to a short cleaning rod in a hand drill. If you don’t have Flitz you can put oil on a brass brush attached to short cleaning rod and spin with a hand drill. Buzzing the chamber won’t hurt anything and works wonders on 22 rimfires and chambers that are rough. Some Nitride barrels have residue from the Nitride process that was thoroughly cleaned at the factory. This residue can impede functioning and polishing the chamber can’t hurt. I’ve had terrible luck with Winchester 115 grain FMJ white box. I’ve seen it fail to function in S&W 5906 that was otherwise reliable. I’ve had two malfunctions in my Gen 4 19 with W-W white box 115 grain FMJ. This particular 19.4 has functioned 100% with my reloads and other factory ammo. I’d try hotter ammo like 9x19 nato 123 grain FMJ which might help the pistol wear in. I hope once your Steyr wears in it becomes more reliable Winchester white box is honestly terrible. I'd shoot aluminum or steel case over it for range ammo. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2020 9:55:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: Winchester white box is honestly terrible. I'd shoot aluminum or steel case over it for range ammo. I also shot Winchester steel case . It didn’t like it either and my Glock 17 and cz75 shoot that fine. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2020 10:01:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VASCAR2: If the Steyr were mine I’d polish the chamber with Flitz on a barrel mop attached to a short cleaning rod in a hand drill. If you don’t have Flitz you can put oil on a brass brush attached to short cleaning rod and spin with a hand drill. Buzzing the chamber won’t hurt anything and works wonders on 22 rimfires and chambers that are rough. Some Nitride barrels have residue from the Nitride process that was thoroughly cleaned at the factory. This residue can impede functioning and polishing the chamber can’t hurt. I’ve had terrible luck with Winchester 115 grain FMJ white box. I’ve seen it fail to function in S&W 5906 that was otherwise reliable. I’ve had two malfunctions in my Gen 4 19 with W-W white box 115 grain FMJ. This particular 19.4 has functioned 100% with my reloads and other factory ammo. I’d try hotter ammo like 9x19 nato 123 grain FMJ which might help the pistol wear in. I hope once your Steyr wears in it becomes more reliable I did that already Rotary tool polishing compound . |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 8:22:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alexfiggy: I got my L9A2 last week and so far I’m not happy with it . Lots of failures to extract at least 2 per mag shooting wwb 115 gr I fired over 300 rounds so far. I spoke to steyr and honestly I’m not sure what to make of my conversation. Basically there gunsmith is blaming the Winchester 115 gr as being to weak and steyr needs good 124 grain or heavier Ammo and that they use 147 gr almost exclusively. I love the way the gun feels in my hand but this lack of reliability is horrible. I own lots of 9mm pistols from a colt 1911 to cz75 Glocks and this is the only pistols i have seen not extract Winchester 115 gr ball .what else did steyr tell me todo clean the extractor and spring and the channeling in,I did that already 😳 then the next sucky news there’s no parts in country yet . They did say I could send it back to them but for what to sit there until they get parts . I guess I’ll be calling them in few weeks to check for parts. The gunsmith seemed like a good dude just trying to todo the best with what he has . To be clear this is failed to extract not eject . The case is left in the chamber the slide is all the way back trying to pick up the next round for a nice double penetration porn shot. Gonna have to say bs there. Most of what I have shot through my C9A2 and L9A2 is 115 gr. Plenty of white box and S&B as well as some steel. Sounds like a cop out, I would push for the repair. Can you take any pics of your extractor, slide, spring? Maybe rails of frame too.The A2 series of guns has a redesigned extractor so old reports won’t be much help I posted some pics of mine, black is A2 and silver is A1. So I would push harder with steyr,as that is not normal. A couple years back I had almost the same conversation on a zenith mp5 clone. They said it’s fine shoot 147 through it, I pushed harder and once they got it back the repair log was long, but after she came gone it was gtg.  Attached Filehere  Attached File Attached File |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2020 9:30:06 PM EST
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My extractor is the black one . I’ll take pics when I get a chance . I’m going to be at work for 24 hours if don’t do then I’ll do it on Wednesday.
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:20:57 AM EST
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I cant decide if I want the M9A2 or L9A2. The M9 has the same full size grip as the L9 but shorter barrel right?
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Posted: 12/1/2020 9:37:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Yes. All A2 pistols have the same grip, for A1 the L M and C have full grips and the S has a shorter grip. Basically going from a M9 to a L9 you get half an inch on the slide/barrel/frame. Depending on the generation You also lose the loaded chamber indicator or it’s moved to a central location from the L9. In the past that made it harder to mill a optic to the L9 but L&M precision has gotten around that. I am still waiting on my M9A2 for other changes. That said M9 A2 are just starting to come in and L9A2 are all over the market so it will be harder to find a M9A2 then a L9A2. Also early L9A2 the serialized part was the trigger group, where new L9,C9 and I assume M9 the serialized part is the frame same as the A1s. You can tell this if it has two serial numbers next to each other with one in silver and one in black or just one in black. Black is the trigger group and silver is the frame of it has it. The older A1 you lose a rail slot going down to one but the A2 I believe the M9 has 3 and the L9 has 4 so that’s less of an issue. Almost like a Glock 19x or a Glock 17 in my view. Personally I carry a C9A2 now as my edc with a holster from doubleclick and the L9 serves as a range /competition/ hiking gun now.
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Posted: 12/1/2020 9:45:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alexfiggy: My extractor is the black one . I’ll take pics when I get a chance . I’m going to be at work for 24 hours if don’t do then I’ll do it on Wednesday. No worries, the silver isn’t factory finish but that’s the older design. Might be helpful to see pictures to look if there are any part breakages or something not right, but the A2 did get a new generation extractor. Steyr has had issues for years with extractors and they have redesigned parts a few times but with the new pistol it looks like they decided to completely redesign it. Hopefully it’s something easy like a broken extractor or in correctly installed, although the A2 from my experience is pretty hard to do that on. |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 10:37:48 AM EST
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Thanks for the info. I think I will grab an L9 instead of a M9. Gunbroker going to be my best bet finding one?
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Posted: 12/1/2020 12:46:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: Thanks for the info. I think I will grab an L9 instead of a M9. Gunbroker going to be my best bet finding one? Gunprine has one but because the shipment hit a bout a month ago they are climbing back up in price. Gun broker. V1 looks to be sold out till feb. also always https://gun.deals/category/hand-guns?caliber=181 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2020 6:10:01 PM EST
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Update on my a2 I did the the 1911 safety spring mod . Gun now runs just fine .
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2021 7:11:48 PM EST
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I was in my LGS last week looking for a gen 5 G19. They didn’t have one, but they did have a new M9-A2. It wasn’t exactly what I was looking for but I was quite intrigued. I figured if I didn’t like it I could sell it off. So far I’ve shot 500 absolutely trouble free rounds with it.
I think though that I prefer the Glock for my purposes since I carry a Glock for work and I like the similar feel of the 19 vs my duty gun. I’d say the M9 is a very very good gun though. The feel of the Steyr is really nice, and the flared mag well is realllly nice. I shot it similarly to my G19.4. The construction of the M9 seems top notch. I’d never owned a Steyr before and am impressed. Of course the shop called and said that they got the G19.5 in stock today.. |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 12:34:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Homegrown: I was in my LGS last week looking for a gen 5 G19. They didn’t have one, but they did have a new M9-A2. It wasn’t exactly what I was looking for but I was quite intrigued. I figured if I didn’t like it I could sell it off. So far I’ve shot 500 absolutely trouble free rounds with it. I think though that I prefer the Glock for my purposes since I carry a Glock for work and I like the similar feel of the 19 vs my duty gun. I’d say the M9 is a very very good gun though. The feel of the Steyr is really nice, and the flared mag well is realllly nice. I shot it similarly to my G19.4. The construction of the M9 seems top notch. I’d never owned a Steyr before and am impressed. Of course the shop called and said that they got the G19.5 in stock today.. Hey you found a M9A2 in the wild and that’s pretty cool right now as the M9 are not easy to find. My friend whose duty weapon is a G22 Gen3 and carries a G19 Gen 4 off duty as a ccw has shot mine and while he likes them (especially the trigger) he sticks with Glock for common parts and training. It’s a great gun but if you reliant on a Glock for work it’s hard to avoid that. The only downside of the A1s was the extractor but that was fixed with the A2. Only thing is doesn’t have stock is night sights and trijicon makes those but it’s back to the traditional sights then. Also no optics cut but L&M can’t put a red dot on it. Good find and enjoy it. If not let me know if you get bored of it |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 12:39:24 PM EST
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Update, I decided not to mill the slide on my M9-A1. I had it in my head that the A2 was cut for an optic, but I was wrong.
So I'm going to stick with my pair of M9-A1's and try a Holosun 507 on my P365XL. I really, really like the 365 series. I may eventually end up with a SIG M17 or preferably an M18 and stick an optic (and a Wilson grip) on that. Too bad Steyr is so out of touch with the American market. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:09:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Update, I decided not to mill the slide on my M9-A1. I had it in my head that the A2 was cut for an optic, but I was wrong. So I'm going to stick with my pair of M9-A1's and try a Holosun 507 on my P365XL. I really, really like the 365 series. I may eventually end up with a SIG M17 or preferably an M18 and stick an optic (and a Wilson grip) on that. Too bad Steyr is so out of touch with the American market. I have a 320 with an optic and it’s a good sidearm although the jam in a two gun match has turned me off it. I would like to try and 365 but they fly off the shelf as soon as they land. That said if you can get a steyr done through L&M I would go for it as he is retiring and after he leaves the scene there very well may be no one else to do it. I have heard wright armory is open to it but no clue on the quality  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 9:17:25 PM EST
[#22]
I found a Holosun 407 with the 6MOA dot. Considerably cheaper than the 507 I was considering.
I love the 365 platform. The XL as your primary gun and a 365 as a backup is a perfect CCW setup. There is one thing I don’t like about XL, that flat trigger. Purely personal preference but I like the curved trigger on regular 365 and shoot it better. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 7:18:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: Stonia]
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Pick up a C9-A2 a couple weeks ago from V1 to go with my L9A1 and M9A1. These Steyr pistols are where it's at. The new grip frame just fuses with my hand. I can't imagine a better fit, and I was really pleased with the A1. No complaints so far, though maybe they could put the S/N I a few more places
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Posted: 5/7/2021 12:08:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Pick up a C9-A2 a couple weeks ago from V1 to go with my L9A1 and M9A1. These Steyr pistols are where it's at. The new grip frame just fuses with my hand. I can't imagine a better fit, and I was really pleased with the A1. No complaints so far, though maybe they could put the S/N I a few more places https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20210506_191116_jpg-1932527.JPG Edit: I do wish they were factory milled for an RMR. Agreed, wish we would get a OR version but when I spoke to steyr last year they said we are going to have to wait for the next gen. That sucks but now L&M retiring there really isn’t a shop that does optic cuts. Wright armory in Mesa AZ said they would give it a run if I dropped off my milled A1 slide and unmilled A2 slide. The SN is on the slide like the Germans but the SN was initially on the L9A2 only on the trigger group and not the frame. Now it’s on the frame with all C9A2, M9A2, and all L9A2 after the first batch due to the ability to take a A1 trigger group and slap it into a A2 frame and not have a serialized part. nice gun, that is my current daily carry |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 8:18:11 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Pick up a C9-A2 a couple weeks ago from V1 to go with my L9A1 and M9A1. These Steyr pistols are where it's at. The new grip frame just fuses with my hand. I can't imagine a better fit, and I was really pleased with the A1. No complaints so far, though maybe they could put the S/N I a few more places https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20210506_191116_jpg-1932527.JPG Edit: I do wish they were factory milled for an RMR. Where does the brass eject? I had two different S9-A1's and got rid of both because they ejected brass into my face. |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:25:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Where does the brass eject? I had two different S9-A1's and got rid of both because they ejected brass into my face. Wanna hear something stupid about that. Steyr recommended to fix that on the A1 series you clean the ejector every 500 rounds. That said the 1911 spring swap fixed that issue. Also the A2 series redesigned the extractor to fix it. So far on the A2 series there has been no issue stock. Silver is A1(np3 coated) A2 is black (no issue). Have a couple thousand on the L9 A2 and C9 A2, not much on the M9A2 yet  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:54:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Where does the brass eject? I had two different S9-A1's and got rid of both because they ejected brass into my face. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Originally Posted By Stonia: Pick up a C9-A2 a couple weeks ago from V1 to go with my L9A1 and M9A1. These Steyr pistols are where it's at. The new grip frame just fuses with my hand. I can't imagine a better fit, and I was really pleased with the A1. No complaints so far, though maybe they could put the S/N I a few more places https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20210506_191116_jpg-1932527.JPG Edit: I do wish they were factory milled for an RMR. Where does the brass eject? I had two different S9-A1's and got rid of both because they ejected brass into my face. Not many rounds through it yet, but mostly over my shoulder at around 5 . Occasionally somewhere more to the right between 2-5. Nothing in the face yet. |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 1:36:57 PM EST
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Does anybody make a more flush floor plate? I know I'd lose a round or 2, but it would conceal a lot better for me if it was a hair shorter.
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Posted: 5/7/2021 6:51:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: Warhawk]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: Wanna hear something stupid about that. Steyr recommended to fix that on the A1 series you clean the ejector every 500 rounds. That said the 1911 spring swap fixed that issue. Also the A2 series redesigned the extractor to fix it. So far on the A2 series there has been no issue stock. Silver is A1(np3 coated) A2 is black (no issue). Have a couple thousand on the L9 A2 and C9 A2, not much on the M9A2 yethttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/448154/E9CE9643-F6A1-438D-A41D-B7F0163BE7A4_jpe-1932997.JPG I tried the “new ejector” fix on both of them, two S9-A1. Never shot either one enough to get it very dirty. It sucks when your safety glasses aren’t there for that theoretical “what if”, but are actually needed to keep hot brass out of your eyes. No sense in having a pistol that size that only holds 10 rounds. Not when the P365 exists. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 12:33:03 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: I tried the “new ejector” fix on both of them, two S9-A1. Never shot either one enough to get it very dirty. It sucks when your safety glasses aren’t there for that theoretical “what if”, but are actually needed to keep hot brass out of your eyes. No sense in having a pistol that size that only holds 10 rounds. Not when the P365 exists. Steyr ejector fix didn’t really do much, which is why they redesigned it. The 1911 spring fix did help. Agreed, brass to the face sucks no matter what. A2 it’s fixed but you can get the A1 to work just not through Steyr’s fix |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:25:01 AM EST
[#31]
Looks like I am going to have to dip my toes into DIY holster making since holster availability for the L9A2 is pretty much zero.
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:27:22 AM EST
[#32]
I want one, just cuz.
I shot a .40 Steyr combat like 12 years ago and loved it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:29:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: Looks like I am going to have to dip my toes into DIY holster making since holster availability for the L9A2 is pretty much zero. Depends what you want. Doubleclick holsters make solid holsters and they are made for the A2. If you wan somthing like a QLS on it then you can email them and they will do it. I have a L9, M9, and ,c9 all in the a2 series from them. They are solid. I also have one from black trident in Austria that is awesome but it’s expensive to get it to the states. You can also do a omnivore. For a quality iwb or owb I would go double click. If you want to spend the cash the black trident is pretty cool too. Other then that plenty of customs shops will do it too. I have had some done from we plead the 2nd that have been solid but they won’t make it without the gun. That said if you like their designs I wouldn’t mind grabbing another and dropping mine off and while it’s there they could mold one for you. There are more pics and info on the steyr forums. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:32:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By matai: I want one, just cuz. I shot a .40 Steyr combat like 12 years ago and loved it. Just cuz is how I started, now I have more steyr handguns then any other manufacturer, although sig is pretty close 2nd |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 10:09:54 AM EST
[#35]
Anybody have an M9? The original M9 before the A1? A local shop has one, I will probably buy it.
I had an M40 many years ago, bought it for my brother who was into .40 S&W at the time. Dirt cheap at Cabelas, $175 if I remember right. Anyway, I only shot it a little and all I remember is some kind of funky safety inside the trigger guard. My brother said it shot fine, but he wasn't a fan of the triangle sights. 
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Posted: 5/12/2021 1:40:48 PM EST
[#36]
When it rains it pours! After having NEVER seen a Steyr in a local gunshop, I ran across two of them in the last week. The second one I bought on the spot, it's a C9-A1.
@Kwisak I may need to try the 1911 spring fix on this one. I'm assuming it may eject brass into my face like my pair of S9's did. I'll fix it this time, one way or another. I'm still undecided about the other one, it's an original M9. It's from an estate, they let me look it over but can't sell it until they get some paperwork sorted out. They haven't set a price yet either. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 8:35:27 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Anybody have an M9? The original M9 before the A1? A local shop has one, I will probably buy it. I had an M40 many years ago, bought it for my brother who was into .40 S&W at the time. Dirt cheap at Cabelas, $175 if I remember right. Anyway, I only shot it a little and all I remember is some kind of funky safety inside the trigger guard. My brother said it shot fine, but he wasn't a fan of the triangle sights. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33552/Steyr_M9_Rude-1939271.jpg I’m a fan, like to collect bubits guns. Snag them while you can and if you want to get his last gun the bb6 was on available for 300 not long ago |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 8:38:18 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: When it rains it pours! After having NEVER seen a Steyr in a local gunshop, I ran across two of them in the last week. The second one I bought on the spot, it's a C9-A1. @Kwisak I may need to try the 1911 spring fix on this one. I'm assuming it may eject brass into my face like my pair of S9's did. I'll fix it this time, one way or another. I'm still undecided about the other one, it's an original M9. It's from an estate, they let me look it over but can't sell it until they get some paperwork sorted out. They haven't set a price yet either. Nice find! Haven’t seen a A1 for sale in awhile besides online. Might as well try it, according to steyr it’s a 500 round and clean the ejector/ejector channel in the slide. Otherwise there is good info on the swap at the steyr forum. If work would calm down I would be at the range today playing around but seems like a constant flow. Good find, go brake it in. I find a lot of used steyr guns are often safe queens. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 8:08:55 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: Nice find! Haven’t seen a A1 for sale in awhile besides online. Might as well try it, according to steyr it’s a 500 round and clean the ejector/ejector channel in the slide. Otherwise there is good info on the swap at the steyr forum. If work would calm down I would be at the range today playing around but seems like a constant flow. Good find, go brake it in. I find a lot of used steyr guns are often safe queens. The C9 seems like a perfect candidate for an RMR, threaded barrel and a can. Of course there probably isn't anyplace to get any of that right now. You mentioned a MASADA, how do you like it? Local shop has one of those too, feels decent in the hand. I still prefer the feel of the Steyr. Also anxious to see one of the new Walther PDPs. Walthers are almost as scarce as Steyrs around here, crazy since the importer is in my state. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 4:48:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
[#40]
Sorry tried to post earlier but phone was wonky. The IwI is a good gun. Pros is it does well and had a optics cut at a great price point. Downsides is the grip isn’t as rough as I would like, trigger isn’t great(better then Glock) and slaps a bit, the Magwell isn’t flared, and mags were a pain to get. Overall it isn’t bad and my brother in law liked it so much he got one, but it’s not one that will see a lot of attention from me. Good gun for the money and with a optics cut it’s nice easy turn key gun, but doesn’t do anything special either.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 9:12:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: Warhawk]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: Sorry tried to post earlier but phone was wonky. The IwI is a good gun. Pros is it does well and had a optics cut at a great price point. Downsides is the grip isn’t as rough as I would like, trigger isn’t great(better then Glock) and slaps a bit, the Magwell isn’t flared, and mags were a pain to get. Overall it isn’t bad and my brother in law liked it so much he got one, but it’s not one that will see a lot of attention from me. Good gun for the money and with a optics cut it’s nice easy turn key gun, but doesn’t do anything special either. I haven’t seen a Masada yet. The gun shop owner has, and he wasn’t terribly impressed. I’m thinking either a Sig M18 or a Walther PDP compact for mounting an RMR. I’ve yet to see either of these in person either. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 8:02:46 PM EST
[#42]
I liked the 320 and was really happy to see all the after market love. Did some work on it and sent it in for the upgrade. Was pretty happy with it overall but in a omnivore holster in a two gun match a rock got into the locking block and took a beating to unjam it so since I’ve been hesitant on the 320. Actually sold all but one. Only modern walther I have is the target ppq and it’s a nice gun. Wish mine had a optics cut but it was a ppq with the ported slide early on.
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Posted: 5/17/2021 9:18:19 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: I liked the 320 and was really happy to see all the after market love. Did some work on it and sent it in for the upgrade. Was pretty happy with it overall but in a omnivore holster in a two gun match a rock got into the locking block and took a beating to unjam it so since I’ve been hesitant on the 320. Actually sold all but one. Only modern walther I have is the target ppq and it’s a nice gun. Wish mine had a optics cut but it was a ppq with the ported slide early on. Maybe someone else will step up to mill Steyrs for optics. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 12:11:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: ken_mays]
[#44]
I like the Masada. The trigger slap is mitigated a lot when you add a RDS, to the point mine went to "barely noticeable."
It takes SIG P320 sights, which is good. Ergonomics are above average and it's a gun I don't have to think about when I'm using it. Finish holds up quite well on the slide so far, even after months of daily carry. The magazines have the stiffest springs which I can ever remember in a doublestack 9, which is great for reliability but tough on your hands when loading. Mags aren't everywhere but they do pop up on IWI's website from time to time. Reliability in general has been perfect. Accuracy is good. Trigger on mine wore in to about a 4# pull with a little smooth creep and very little overtravel. Biggest complaint - the shape of the magwell combined with design of the mags is not ideal for fast reloads. It's too easy to catch the edge of the mag on the edge of the magwell. Holster is one I orginally made for, ironically, the Steyr L9A1.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 5:59:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Warhawk]
[#45]
My C9-A1
I got the box and paperwork, and three (10 rd) magazines. Did not get the lock "key". EDIT: Never mind, I found the key to dating these. This one is from Nov 2010, date code VWO  
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Posted: 5/20/2021 8:44:22 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Maybe someone else will step up to mill Steyrs for optics. Wright armory in Mesa az said they would do one. Haven’t taken them up on it yet |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 8:45:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: My C9-A1 I got the box and paperwork, and three (10 rd) magazines. Did not get the lock "key". EDIT: Never mind, I found the key to dating these. This one is from Nov 2010, date code VWO https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33552/C9-A1-1-1947352.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33552/C9-A1-2-1947353.jpg PM your address and I’ll send a key over. Good looking gun. Time to snag some of 17 rounders! |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 4:21:06 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: PM your address and I’ll send a key over. Good looking gun. Time to snag some of 17 rounders! I have the key with my other two M9-A1s, thanks though. I need to see exactly how many 17 rd magazines I have. One of my M9's came with several. I'm probably OK. |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 4:22:16 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwisak: Wright armory in Mesa az said they would do one. Haven’t taken them up on it yet I really don't want to be the guinea pig, but once they've done a few I may send them an M9-A1, and order another Holosun. |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:43:39 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: I really don't want to be the guinea pig, but once they've done a few I may send them an M9-A1, and order another Holosun. When I find another L9A2 I plan to take the Milled A1 in and let them use that to mill the A2. I also asked KE but havent heard back. My guess is they are pretty busy with all the wwsd rifles they have been doing with inrange and brownells. |
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