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Posted: 11/24/2020 7:47:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: FIFY A worthy FIFY. |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 9:40:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: FIFY Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Originally Posted By PFran42: If they would just take the current Deltan and: 1. Add optics cut 2. Add real slide serrations 3. Re-work the back straps (round them) 4. Compatibility with GLOCK night sights They would have a G19 "killer". The Delta is the PERFECT size. FIFY My take: 1. Don't use optics, but see how it would be a great asset. 2. I like these serrations. 3. I have sandpaper, and I'm not afraid to use it. Offering them with the extra material covers both bases; it's easy to remove. 4. Hell yeah. I ended up putting the small backstrap on, and slightly rounding just the right side that hits my right palm. That left the harder angle on the left for my support hand to engage. Works great, locks in hard. Front fiberoptic sight for XDM installed; not the best choice but works with Loctite. A sight with wider wings would have been superior; but I didn't know what height SIG sight to use. |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 11:01:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: (snip) 2. I like these serrations. (snip) I ended up putting the small backstrap on, and slightly rounding just the right side that hits my right palm. That left the harder angle on the left for my support hand to engage. Works great, locks in hard. (snip) Serrations - I couldn't disagree more. Spray a little Ballistol on the slide and try to manipulate. Now think about how easy it would be to rack the slide under stress with bloody hands. The only halfway decent portion of the serrations is at the point of the forward facing triangles. Miss the sweet spot on the slide and things get iffy. Backstrap - That is exactly what I did. On the small backstrap, I used a rough knife sharpening stone on the hard angle that meets my strong side palm. The gun feels 10X better after doing this simple mod. Ownership update: I have dry fired the gun a couple thousand more times and put another 200 rounds through it. If you have a bunch of your pistols out for cleaning and are function checking them, the Delta trigger takeup feels way too heavy. As soon as you are firing a well broken in Delta at the range, you quickly forget about this "negative" as the break and reset are amazing. IMHO, this is about as close to a perfect DUTY trigger as you are going to find. For DUTY/HD/SHTF, I like this trigger more than my PPQ, P-10C, VP9, and TP9SF (all of which are generally known to have great triggers). |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 11:51:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: I have dry fired the gun a couple thousand more times and put another 200 rounds through it. If you have a bunch of your pistols out for cleaning and are function checking them, the Delta trigger takeup feels way too heavy. As soon as you are firing a well broken in Delta at the range, you quickly forget about this "negative" as the break and reset are amazing. IMHO, this is about as close to a perfect DUTY trigger as you are going to find. For DUTY/HD/SHTF, I like this trigger more than my PPQ, P-10C, VP9, and TP9SF (all of which are generally known to have great triggers). I am amazed how well the trigger cleaned up. New, that draggy, plastic-on-plastic take-up was just gross. The break was a little off, like there was a burr or a double edge. Both cleaned up great. Now the gun's trigger is better than either of my TP9s. |
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Posted: 11/26/2020 12:53:06 PM EST
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@PFran42
Great work! If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the result of your backstrap post-sanding? Thanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Backstrap - That is exactly what I did. On the small backstrap, I used a rough knife sharpening stone on the hard angle that meets my strong side palm. The gun feels 10X better after doing this simple mod. |
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Posted: 11/26/2020 2:16:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kes7u: @PFran42 Great work! If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the result of your backstrap post-sanding? Thanks. @kes7u I don't have access to the pistol today. That said, this mod is stupid simple. - Grip pistol as firmly as you would when firing. - Identify pressure points/angles - File hard edges When you are finished, you can't even tell you did anything with the naked eye. Example (not my pistol): Unedited pic for reference:  Attached FileOrange line identifies the hard angle that was uncomfortable:  Attached FileUse file or rough sharpening stone and remove offending hard angle:  Attached FileIf you pay attention to what you are doing, you will make ZERO modification to the actual pistol frame. 100% of the work will be done to one backstrap. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2020 8:16:03 PM EST
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@PFran42
My wife was shooting the Arex today and having the same issue. I wasn't entirely sure which edge was causing the pain, but you confirmed my suspicion as to the one on the backstrap. Going to give it a try shorty. If I mess it up, at least its only a backstrap! Thanks for posting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: @kes7u I don't have access to the pistol today. That said, this mod is stupid simple. - Grip pistol as firmly as you would when firing. - Identify pressure points/angles - File hard edges When you are finished, you can't even tell you did anything with the naked eye. Example (not my pistol): Unedited pic for reference: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2020-11-26_14-02-55-a_png-1702793.JPG Orange line identifies the hard angle that was uncomfortable: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2020-11-26_14-02-55-b_png-1702796.JPG Use file or rough sharpening stone and remove offending hard angle: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2020-11-26_14-02-55-c_png-1702797.JPG If you pay attention to what you are doing, you will make ZERO modification to the actual pistol frame. 100% of the work will be done to one backstrap. |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 2:00:19 PM EST
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Rainier Cyber TUESDAY sale Arex Delta pistols $369.
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Posted: 12/1/2020 2:51:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Rainier Cyber TUESDAY sale Arex Delta pistols $369. I I didn't already have one, or that was the unicorn safety model, I would have to fo. |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 1:00:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: Space-Cadet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/E11D870B-DBE6-45BF-BCA1-BDE56B71D087_jpe-1697776.JPG Better pic. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/893EF65B-7DA5-49FB-8FF1-A7626F262B15_jpe-1697777.JPG Looks like the slide and barrel are longer. Wish they would have kept it the same as the original. @PFran42 If you look on Global Ordnance's instagram, they're showing off the three (I guess six since there's optics ready and non optics ready versions) -- Glock 17 size (Delta L), Glock 19 size (Delta M), and Glock 19x size (Delta X). Also the different colorways. https://instagram.com/global_ordnance?igshid=11id32b7ozxfh |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 6:52:48 AM EST
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Collect the entire set! Trade with friends!
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Posted: 12/12/2020 12:17:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
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Rainier Arms current price (sale) is $369 and change. "Free ground shipping" but not sure if this applies to serialized purchases (likely not). RA also collects sales tax.
Still a good price given the current prices on a lot of 1st tier handguns. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:18:28 PM EST
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Got bored and started chasing metal-to-metal contact.
Say hello to grip modules???  Attached File Attached FileParts appear to be mostly CNC'd. High quality work. I wonder if an ex CZ employee jumped ship? I like the pistol even more after having seen/handled the guts. Now I just need to figure out how far I can further break it down. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:27:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Got bored and started chasing metal-to-metal contact. Say hello to grip modules??? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20201214_015324411_jpg-1729949.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20201214_021017523_jpg-1729950.JPG Parts appear to be mostly CNC'd. High quality work. I wonder if an ex CZ employee jumped ship? I like the pistol even more after having seen/handled the guts. Now I just need to figure out how far I can further break it down. You can buy an FDE grip module from Polenar Tactical. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:40:51 PM EST
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Did you see their stippled grip? Looks like they took care of all the hard edges.
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:41:47 PM EST
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Anyone figure out how to get the sear housing module taken apart?
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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:57:24 PM EST
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Posted: 12/13/2020 10:02:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Rainier Arms current price (sale) is $269 and change. "Free ground shipping" but not sure if this applies to serialized purchases (likely not). RA also collects sales tax. Still a good price given the current prices on a lot of 1st tier handguns. It's showing $369 for me. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 3:01:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: It's showing $369 for me. Sorry for the typo. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 3:36:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Sorry for the typo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Originally Posted By Space-Cadet: It's showing $369 for me. Sorry for the typo. Ah, just making sure I didn't miss a sale. |
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Posted: 12/22/2020 2:00:36 AM EST
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Has anyone tried one of these in a Safariland ALS holster for a Glock?
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Posted: 12/23/2020 11:29:22 PM EST
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Took out a new Arex Delta pistol today. 120 rounds without a single problem. I enjoyed shooting this one. Thumbs up so far.
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Posted: 12/28/2020 11:11:47 PM EST
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Posted: 12/29/2020 12:53:26 PM EST
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Great shot! That light seems to fit the Delta perfectly.
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Posted: 12/30/2020 2:16:02 AM EST
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Posted: 12/30/2020 2:20:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: http://www.arex.si/delta-gen-2 Here's Arex's site with all the details on the Gen 2 Looks like a considerable refinement. The grip seems more rounded with a finer texture, and the optic cut is something that's attractive too. If it comes in under $500, I'm a buyer. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/30/2020 8:43:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: DCopp]
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Man, they gave up on Gen 1 mighty fast...maybe they should've taken some input BEFORE shipping the first model
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Posted: 12/30/2020 9:52:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCopp: Man, they gave up on Gen 1 mighty fast...maybe they should've taken some input BEFORE shipping the first model The gen 1 has been out for a few years in Europe. The press release junket for the North America release was in 2018. Now they need to hurry up and release Gen 2.1 with better slide serrations. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 11:09:47 AM EST
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The backstrap LOOKS more rounded than gen 1, but can't see a great pic.
If so, I wonder if it is compatible with gen 1? |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 12:07:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kes7u: The backstrap LOOKS more rounded than gen 1, but can't see a great pic. If so, I wonder if it is compatible with gen 1? The trigger assembly is the serialized "gun" so you can swap it into other frame modules. There are a few already available OCONUS. I'm betting you could buy a new "softer" grip module and swap your gen 1 guts into it. Located in Europe but it is not a gun and they will ship to you: https://www.arex-store.si/product-page/arex-delta-od-frame |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 12:16:51 PM EST
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Nice to see more low cost options, even more so in Pandemic 2020.
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Posted: 12/30/2020 12:52:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: The trigger assembly is the serialized "gun" so you can swap it into other frame modules. There are a few already available OCONUS. I'm betting you could buy a new "softer" grip module and swap your gen 1 guts into it. Located in Europe but it is not a gun and they will ship to you: https://www.arex-store.si/product-page/arex-delta-od-frame The L with optic cut is awfully close to being a Masada. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 1:50:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: The gen 1 has been out for a few years in Europe. The press release junket for the North America release was in 2018. Now they need to hurry up and release Gen 2.1 with better slide serrations. Yeah I told them a few changes I’d like to see when they flew me over: trigger, grip frame and that it should have been optics ready Still want to see a threaded bbl |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 2:33:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeSearson: Yeah I told them a few changes I’d like to see when they flew me over: trigger, grip frame and that it should have been optics ready Still want to see a threaded bbl You need to give that trigger a chance. If you are using the Delta for CCW or HD, it is PERFECT. You have to use it with purpose. 100% smooth 6lb. pull to a solid wall, crisp break, very short audible and tactile reset where there is a good amount of force used to push your trigger finger towards reset. Take the rear assembly out of the Delta. Fiddle with it for a few minutes to see how it works and what exactly is touching what. Then take a Dremel and some Flitz and give all of the spots you identified a quick polish. Make sure to take down the ejector side plate (see pic) so that you can get all of the little bits behind it. You get the "wall" and disconnector smoothed up and the Delta's trigger is fantastic!  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 1:31:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: You need to give that trigger a chance. If you are using the Delta for CCW or HD, it is PERFECT. You have to use it with purpose. 100% smooth 6lb. pull to a solid wall, crisp break, very short audible and tactile reset where there is a good amount of force used to push your trigger finger towards reset. Take the rear assembly out of the Delta. Fiddle with it for a few minutes to see how it works and what exactly is touching what. Then take a Dremel and some Flitz and give all of the spots you identified a quick polish. Make sure to take down the ejector side plate (see pic) so that you can get all of the little bits behind it. You get the "wall" and disconnector smoothed up and the Delta's trigger is fantastic! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Q_RANGER_0000000_2_28_55_PM_png-1755228.JPG Ok |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 1:28:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: You need to give that trigger a chance. If you are using the Delta for CCW or HD, it is PERFECT. You have to use it with purpose. 100% smooth 6lb. pull to a solid wall, crisp break, very short audible and tactile reset where there is a good amount of force used to push your trigger finger towards reset. Take the rear assembly out of the Delta. Fiddle with it for a few minutes to see how it works and what exactly is touching what. Then take a Dremel and some Flitz and give all of the spots you identified a quick polish. Make sure to take down the ejector side plate (see pic) so that you can get all of the little bits behind it. You get the "wall" and disconnector smoothed up and the Delta's trigger is fantastic! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Q_RANGER_0000000_2_28_55_PM_png-1755228.JPG Mine broke in after a couple hundred dry fire cycles; very different than how it came in the box. I looked (briefly) at the slide and couldn't figure out how it came apart, just left it be. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 1:53:02 PM EST
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Is anyone making a printed adapter to use the Delta with CZ P09/07 series mags? That would be pretty cool.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 1:55:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: Mine broke in after a couple hundred dry fire cycles; very different than how it came in the box. I looked (briefly) at the slide and couldn't figure out how it came apart, just left it be. You have to use a skinny punch to depress the detent on the ejector side plate then Jenga it out of the rear trigger assembly by sliding the ejector side plate forward. It sort of slides forward then pops off. After that, it is simple to manipulate the parts and see what rubs what. I'm telling you... You poke around in there with some polish and a Dremel and the Delta will become your favorite pistol! |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 2:13:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: You have to use a skinny punch to depress the detent on the ejector side plate then Jenga it out of the rear trigger assembly by sliding the ejector side plate forward. It sort of slides forward then pops off. After that, it is simple to manipulate the parts and see what rubs what. I'm telling you... You poke around in there with some polish and a Dremel and the Delta will become your favorite pistol! Get a worn emery board from your daughter (worked for me) and slightly tough up the sear, too. Just polish. I put fiber sights on mine, too. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 8:23:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Check out #3.
The Top 5 Guns Of 2020  The Top 5 Guns Of 2020 |
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Posted: 1/1/2021 7:26:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Check out #3. Well I guess I'll never find one for under $400 now. David |
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Posted: 1/1/2021 11:59:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dwhitehorne: Well I guess I'll never find one for under $400 now. David In stock, $370. Delta |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:26:54 PM EST
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Gen 2's are now becoming available!
I've seen two stores with all three colors available in the Optics-Ready "L" model (Full-size). I'm waiting on the "M" and the "X". I'll also be interested to see if the backstraps and mags are interchangeable with Gen 1. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:37:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
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Rainier now has the Gen 2 Optic-Ready model in stock. $485 + tax and shipping.
Comes with two 17-rd extended baseplate magazines. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:54:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Rainier now has the Gen 2 Optic-Ready model in stock. $485 + tax and shipping. Comes with two 17-rd extended baseplate magazines. DK Firearms has them too, same price. Free shipping. I'm not sure it's different enough that I need to jump on it right now. I wonder how they look with P-09 mags in them. If nothing terrible happens I will buy an L model, but later this summer. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:55:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ark_lite: I'll also be interested to see if the backstraps and mags are interchangeable with Gen 1. If they are I would like a small. The backstraps are the worst part of the Gen 1 guns. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:22:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: DK Firearms has them too, same price. Free shipping. I'm not sure it's different enough that I need to jump on it right now. I wonder how they look with P-09 mags in them. If nothing terrible happens I will buy an L model, but later this summer. I suspect that by summer you may be too late. In fact you may be too late less than 36 hours from now. The easiest place for the incoming regime to hit us with EO's is imports. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:32:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: Ohio]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: I suspect that by summer you may be too late. In fact you may be too late less than 36 hours from now. I have plenty of guns, this would just be for funsies. ETA: Both are sold out anyway. Too late. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 12:02:56 PM EST
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Gen 2 "M" models are now available, both OR and standard. Just ordered a FDE one from DKFirearms.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:33:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
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Looking for a holster for your Gen 1 that won't break the bank?
Check out Phalanx Defense Systems "Stealth Operator" holster in the COMPACT version (IWB/OWB/OWB-CLIP/OWB-Coyote Brown). I am generally very leery of "universal fit" holsters but the Delta (Gen1) fits the above holster like a glove. Retention/draw/fit is outstanding. Material is thermo-injected nylon. IWB clips are spring steel Price is $35 Unfortunately the Delta Gen 1 will not fit their "Full Size" holster. I tried. They also offer a universal-fit double mag carrier (RH only) it'll fit a variety of double stack mags but as of yet not known if the Delta mags fit (Glock mags do). https://phalanxsystems.com/ |
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