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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:22:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Why not? All my 1911s are .45 but I would love to have one in 9mm just so I could save a few bucks in ammo cost and still shoot a bunch...
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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:34:33 PM EDT
[#2]
I love 1911's and 9mm is cheap to shoot. Win Win
I need MOAR! 
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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:39:52 PM EDT
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Why not? All my 1911s are .45 but I would love to have one in 9mm just so I could save a few bucks in ammo cost and still shoot a bunch... "Why not" has cost me alot over the years. 
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Posted: 2/29/2016 12:18:13 AM EDT
[#4]
You owe yourself the experience.
147 grain bullets especially ,out of a full size 1911 are an absolute pleasure to shoot. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 12:37:10 AM EDT
[#5]
9x23 conversion barrel makes the 9mm luger 1911 a great carry piece
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Posted: 2/29/2016 12:43:56 AM EDT
[#6]
They are fantastic shooters. 9mm recoil in a steel 1911 is tremendously light.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 1:16:46 AM EDT
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I just picked up a Colt Govt in 9mm for the wife, she likes it and shoots it well, I also like it. It shoots pretty soft but I don't think its as soft as my 92 FS.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 6:27:24 AM EDT
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My Dad built a 9mm in Commander size. It's just right. Solves the full size 1911 is too big for 9mm issue.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 8:46:09 AM EDT
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Soft shooting, extremely accurate & a 1911 setup for 9mm has the same configuration to be setup for the 9 x23/38super/40s&w.
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Free scrap range lead cast into 125gr hp plinking bullets to feed the 9mm 1911  " />
The 9mm 1911's shoot soft enough that those free cast 125gr hp's with a 1100fps+ load is considered a "target" load for bullseye/nra targets.  " />
Like I said, soft shooting & highly accurate. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 9:15:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Do you awesome? Because that's how you get awesome.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 9:28:33 AM EDT
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Cheaper to shoot than 45 was my reason; I am glad I own one, truly a pleasure to shoot. Magazine capacity is the only draw back to me.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 9:54:52 AM EDT
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Soft shooting, extremely accurate & a 1911 setup for 9mm has the same configuration to be setup for the 9 x23/38super/40s&w. http://<a href=http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/ropair_zpsjjjmkgtp.jpg</a>" /> Free scrap range lead cast into 125gr hp plinking bullets to feed the 9mm 1911 http://<a href=http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/9mm_zpspljbrgxj.jpg</a>" /> The 9mm 1911's shoot soft enough that those free cast 125gr hp's with a 1100fps+ load is considered a "target" load for bullseye/nra targets. http://<a href=http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/ro9mm50ft_zpslprjmumk.jpg</a>" /> Like I said, soft shooting & highly accurate. Very nice....thanks! |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 9:58:46 AM EDT
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Let me ask a couple more questions.
What is the cheapest, decent 9mm 1911? What mags are GTG and which should be avoided? Does anyone make a drop in 9mm barrel for a .45 cal 1911? |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 11:20:24 AM EDT
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I have a Springfield RO 9mm, so far I don't love it. I have mentioned this elsewhere and a spring change was recommended, I have not done it yet, I also ordered new sights for it, that may help.
The recoil just feels strange to me, the slide feels like its moving slow. An alternative to the 9mm 1911 is the CZ TS in 9mm, I love shooting that gun, very nice single action only trigger, (almost) no recoil. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 11:21:49 AM EDT
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I shoot my RO 9mm much more than my Colt Series 70 Repro. I honestly, am thinking about picking another 9mm full size for carrying over the Series 70. I like it that much. Mine has been reliable since day one. I did change the hammer spring to a 23 lbs and upped the recoil spring to 11 lbs from the stock 9 lbs. This combination feels perfect and has cycled everything, even my minor power factor USPSA and IDPA reloads.
EDIT: My RO has the following upgrades: Dawson Precision Tritium FSP, Wilson Combat BP Steel Guide rod, 11 LB ISMI spring, 23 LB ISMI hammer spring, S&A arched magwell , Magpul Grips (stippled), SA MILSPEC/GI Short Pad trigger, Dawson Precision IDPA extended mag release. Lighter mag release spring. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 11:35:56 AM EDT
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I shoot my RO 9mm much more than my Colt Series 70 Repro. I honestly, am thinking about picking another 9mm full size for carrying over the Series 70. I like it that much. Mine has been reliable since day one. I did change the hammer spring to a 23 lbs and upped the recoil spring to 11 lbs from the stock 9 lbs. This combination feels perfect and has cycled everything, even my minor power factor USPSA and IDPA reloads. All right, I'm gonna order some springs and try to love the RO again. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 12:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me ask a couple more questions.
What is the cheapest, decent 9mm 1911? What mags are GTG and which should be avoided? Does anyone make a drop in 9mm barrel for a .45 cal 1911? Decent is a matter of opinion in 1911s. RIA makes a double stack .22" TCM/9x19mm combo, and may have a single stack 9x19mm as well. Academy sells Taurus' single stack for $550. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 1:08:39 PM EDT
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Let me ask a couple more questions. What is the cheapest, decent 9mm 1911? What mags are GTG and which should be avoided? Does anyone make a drop in 9mm barrel for a .45 cal 1911? I don't know what your intent or price range is, but the Range Officer brings a lot for its a price point. Additionally, you might look for Spartan V or Trojan from STI. |
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Posted: 2/29/2016 2:03:40 PM EDT
[#19]
if you custom load your ammo they feel like shoot a .22. alot of fun and easy on new shooters.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 2:28:44 PM EDT
[#20]
You can't drop a 9 barrel in a 45 slide because the breechface is too wide.
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Posted: 2/29/2016 7:24:55 PM EDT
[#21]
I like it for a lightweight carry gun. Other than that...meh.
 20160106_101707(0) by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Posted: 3/1/2016 1:33:31 AM EDT
[#22]
a good quality 1911 in 9mm is basically the most accurate 9mm you can get short of a P210.
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Posted: 3/1/2016 6:25:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Because people aren't familiar or comfortable with 38 Super
Sure, it's harder to find and more expensive but damn it's sweet! I'm a bit of a 1911 fan and have them in factory chamberings in 45,10mm, 9mm, 22LR 9X23 and 38 Super and one of my favorites is still the Super! |
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Posted: 3/1/2016 8:50:34 AM EDT
[#24]
Because they are fun cheaper alternative to .45 at the range!
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Posted: 3/1/2016 9:26:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Once you shoot one you will most likely understand why they are so popular.
Not aware of a conversion barrel. With the different breechface, extractor, and I think ejector it's not just a drop in affair. The Armscor guns are cheap and have a good reputation. I've been looking at their double stacks since I don't want to spend STI money right now. Here is a GD thread goin on right now discussing this http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1843691_Is_the_9mm_1911_here_to_stay___or_is_it_the_newest_fad_for_Arfcom_.html |
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Posted: 3/1/2016 9:48:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Buy one and find out.
I don't shoot or carry my 45's anymore now that I have a few 9mm 1911's. |
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Posted: 3/1/2016 10:26:59 AM EDT
[#27]
An aluminum frame commander length 9mm makes perfect sense to me. 10+1 capacity.
I handled a full size 9mm last weekend. Kinda heavy. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 1:44:14 PM EDT
[#28]
I bought a Colt 1911 9MM many years ago, didn't really ask why just bought it because it seemed cool, never have regretted it, have since added 2 more 1911 9MM.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 3:21:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Had a Springfield 9mm 1911, hated it, sold it, never again all 1911s for me will be .45.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 3:29:41 PM EDT
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Had a Springfield 9mm 1911, hated it, sold it, never again all 1911s for me will be .45. What did you hate about it and what does the 45 do differently that you like so much? |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 4:35:01 PM EDT
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What did you hate about it and what does the 45 do differently that you like so much? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a Springfield 9mm 1911, hated it, sold it, never again all 1911s for me will be .45. What did you hate about it and what does the 45 do differently that you like so much? I will place my bet on "not feeding for shit" due to the magazine and feed ramp design. Times have changed. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 5:28:01 PM EDT
[#32]
The last Springfield I bought had a shitload of issues. Not so much feeding per se as everything else. In the end, I had to hard fit a new barrel and replace several springs among other things.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 5:47:02 PM EDT
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I will place my bet on "not feeding for shit" due to the magazine and feed ramp design. Times have changed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a Springfield 9mm 1911, hated it, sold it, never again all 1911s for me will be .45. What did you hate about it and what does the 45 do differently that you like so much? I will place my bet on "not feeding for shit" due to the magazine and feed ramp design. Times have changed. Not really, plinking it ran fine, when running the gun hard it would choke occasionally. Was not a carry gun for me, so getting the occasional FTF, FTE while running and gunning just helped with training. What I hated about it was the feel, been shooting 1911s in .45 for decades. It always felt odd with the 9mm, same reason I don't like 22 conversion kits. I don't doubt you and others like 9mm 1911s, but I dont. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 9:26:16 PM EDT
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All right, I'm gonna order some springs and try to love the RO again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot my RO 9mm much more than my Colt Series 70 Repro. I honestly, am thinking about picking another 9mm full size for carrying over the Series 70. I like it that much. Mine has been reliable since day one. I did change the hammer spring to a 23 lbs and upped the recoil spring to 11 lbs from the stock 9 lbs. This combination feels perfect and has cycled everything, even my minor power factor USPSA and IDPA reloads. All right, I'm gonna order some springs and try to love the RO again. A 9 lbs stock recoil spring is really light for 9mm did not know SA RO's came with that light a spring......All my 9mm 1911's came with either 10 or 12 lbs stock recoil springs and I went the other way on the main spring(Hammer) and have changed all to 17 lbs wolff and have never had one not go bang with factory ammo or my reloads and the triggers are really sweet. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 9:36:25 PM EDT
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I used to shoot and carry a Hi Power Practical. Got rid of it to get into the Glock platform. Wish I still had it just because those are the best Hi Powers made I think. My thinking then was, if I am going to carry a pistol that large, it is going to be a 1911 in .45ACP. So, I bought 9mm Glock 19s, and 1911s in .45 ACP. I have since bought several Glock 30 models also as they are fantastic carry guns. Probably the best carry gun Glock has in my opinion. Anyway, I have shot a Smith 1911 in 9mm and a Colt 9mm and keep trying to get the Colt just because, well, it's a Colt. I won't purposely buy a 1911 in 9mm. Too big for the cartridge and too small capacity for the round when the Glock 19 does it all better.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 11:21:06 PM EDT
[#37]
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A 9 lbs stock recoil spring is really light for 9mm did not know SA RO's came with that light a spring......All my 9mm 1911's came with either 10 or 12 lbs stock recoil springs and I went the other way on the main spring(Hammer) and have changed all to 17 lbs wolff and have never had one not go bang with factory ammo or my reloads and the triggers are really sweet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot my RO 9mm much more than my Colt Series 70 Repro. I honestly, am thinking about picking another 9mm full size for carrying over the Series 70. I like it that much. Mine has been reliable since day one. I did change the hammer spring to a 23 lbs and upped the recoil spring to 11 lbs from the stock 9 lbs. This combination feels perfect and has cycled everything, even my minor power factor USPSA and IDPA reloads. All right, I'm gonna order some springs and try to love the RO again. A 9 lbs stock recoil spring is really light for 9mm did not know SA RO's came with that light a spring......All my 9mm 1911's came with either 10 or 12 lbs stock recoil springs and I went the other way on the main spring(Hammer) and have changed all to 17 lbs wolff and have never had one not go bang with factory ammo or my reloads and the triggers are really sweet. Those SA guns need a very light recoil spring because the mainspring is so damn heavy. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 11:27:16 PM EDT
[#38]
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a good quality 1911 in 9mm is basically the most accurate 9mm you can get short of a P210. Accurized Berettas disagree with you!
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Posted: 3/3/2016 10:26:57 AM EDT
[#39]
I was surprised to find out it was a 9 LB recoil spring, I noticed how light it was racking the slide and how light it felt chambering a round. I then realized it was so light because of the ILS system using a 28 LB hammer spring to function. I played a lot with the springs as this gun was initially going to be used for competitions only (still is, though, I made it more reliable than stock now, and I will consider it a carry gun if needed). I initially ran a 10 LB recoil spring with an 18 LB hammer spring and had a light primer hit with my powder puff reloads, I also felt the timing of the slide back into battery felt a little weird almost as if there was a perceived lag when getting back on target for follow ups. Switched up to the current setup of 11 LB recoil and 23 LB hammer spring and it has been great ever since.
I am using Wilson Combat 10 rounders in mine and they run great! Quote HistoryQuoted:
A 9 lbs stock recoil spring is really light for 9mm did not know SA RO's came with that light a spring......All my 9mm 1911's came with either 10 or 12 lbs stock recoil springs and I went the other way on the main spring(Hammer) and have changed all to 17 lbs wolff and have never had one not go bang with factory ammo or my reloads and the triggers are really sweet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot my RO 9mm much more than my Colt Series 70 Repro. I honestly, am thinking about picking another 9mm full size for carrying over the Series 70. I like it that much. Mine has been reliable since day one. I did change the hammer spring to a 23 lbs and upped the recoil spring to 11 lbs from the stock 9 lbs. This combination feels perfect and has cycled everything, even my minor power factor USPSA and IDPA reloads. All right, I'm gonna order some springs and try to love the RO again. A 9 lbs stock recoil spring is really light for 9mm did not know SA RO's came with that light a spring......All my 9mm 1911's came with either 10 or 12 lbs stock recoil springs and I went the other way on the main spring(Hammer) and have changed all to 17 lbs wolff and have never had one not go bang with factory ammo or my reloads and the triggers are really sweet. |
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Posted: 3/4/2016 11:12:11 AM EDT
[#40]
9mm in a full size steel 1911 is just fun.
On the cheap, I suggest a single stack RIA (TAC model). Mine has over 7500 rounds through it with only 6 malfunctions. Of those 6 all could be attributed to worn our recoils springs or mag springs except one. I still don't know what caused that single malfunction. All I have done is change the grips and springs (as they wore out). I do suggest you get Tripp or Wilson mags. For mine the Tripp's are flawless when the springs are not worn out. It does not like the Wilson mags. |
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Posted: 3/4/2016 12:12:15 PM EDT
[#41]
Aside from the "because I want one" reasoning (which I totally support), 9mm 1911s make a lot of sense for competition shooters.
1) IDPA ESP - 10 rd 9mms rule ESP, and 9mm 1911s are among the softest shooters and tend to have great triggers 2) USPSA Single Stack - 9mm = minor scoring but 10 rd mags vs. 8 rd if you're shooting major (40 or 45). Sometimes the extra 2 rounds are more important than the extra points from major scoring. Then there's 3 gun where you see a ton of 9mm 2011s. Nearly bottomless magazines and soft shooting. |
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Posted: 3/4/2016 2:48:19 PM EDT
[#42]
The only reason to own a 1911 in 9mm is because Magnum PI carried a 9mm colt government model, BUT the story line was that it was a 45, but they used a 9mm for theatrical purposes because a 9mm could be converted to fire blanks easier and/or 9mm blanks were more readily available in the islands. So the question is which would more accurate as a Magnum PI clone gun, 9mm or 45?
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Posted: 3/4/2016 2:59:23 PM EDT
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Why not? All my 1911s are .45 but I would love to have one in 9mm just so I could save a few bucks in ammo cost and still shoot a bunch... Start reloading. There is very little price difference if you already have the brass. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:23:17 PM EDT
[#44]
I purchased a new Colt Govt stainless last summer for $799. Has run 100% and is very accurate.
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Posted: 3/7/2016 2:30:37 AM EDT
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Just sent my 9mm RO to SA for a TRP upgrade.
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:25:21 AM EDT
[#46]
I just dropped my cash on the Range officer Champ in 9mm.
Being lefty, I just had a Wilson Combat Ambi safety installed. Out of the box, with a primary clean and lube, off to the range I went. At 25 yards, it easily kept every shot in a 6" paper plate. The gun is way more accurate than I am, and without making any excuses, after primarily shooting my G17 for over a year, I'm going to have to re-learn a great trigger again. 
It came with a fixed two-white-dot Novak rear, and a red fiber optic front. Included with the pistol was green fiber....which my eyes just see better, so I swapped out the rod for the green. If I don't end up installing a 10-8 rear on the gun, I'll be blacking out the white dots on the rear sight. The factory mags leave a lot to be desired, and after reading like crazy over on 1911 forum, I ordered two inexpensive Checkmate mags [$14.00ea] which are running absolutely fine so far. [Just 300 rounds] The gun is an extremely soft shooter, more so than a Hi-power, or the Glock 17....and accurate. without jacking this thread, I'll continue to post results from the range, as well as ANY stoppages. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 9:29:30 AM EDT
[#47]
Damn. I really want one of those RO Champ 9mms
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Posted: 3/7/2016 9:56:51 AM EDT
[#48]
No recoil?
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Posted: 3/7/2016 10:11:20 AM EDT
[#49]
Of course recoil is a subjective thing, but I perceive it to be less than the glock 17. Could be the grip angle and different ergonomic design as compared to the glock.
Definitely less than the hi power.... But the same movement... Does that make sense? |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 10:27:22 AM EDT
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9x23, long C.O.A.L. 9x19 or 38 Super, I get that. No interest in a 9x19 in 1911.
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