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Posted: 7/13/2016 1:22:57 AM EDT
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You'll still be late. Someone will have to post your bail.
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Posted: 7/13/2016 1:27:18 AM EDT
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Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now.
If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 1:44:47 AM EDT
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I doubt that any place will sell you an OC grenade, even an aerosol one, unless you are LEO or MIL.
I bet you could get a MK-9 pepper spray though. 
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Posted: 7/13/2016 2:20:06 AM EDT
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Gun broker,
OC grenades. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 2:49:09 AM EDT
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I doubt that any place will sell you an OC grenade, even an aerosol one, unless you are LEO or MIL. I bet you could get a MK-9 pepper spray though.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411HeAR2o4L._SY450_.jpg http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/203/420/UCDavis_pepperspray.jpg?1321852699 Picture puts me at half mast every time 
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Posted: 7/13/2016 3:14:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt that any place will sell you an OC grenade, even an aerosol one, unless you are LEO or MIL. I bet you could get a MK-9 pepper spray though. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411HeAR2o4L._SY450_.jpg http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/203/420/UCDavis_pepperspray.jpg?1321852699 Just watering my hippies  |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 8:11:06 AM EDT
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I got mine from Amazon, Fox Five Point Three. 2 oz cans that have the push down and lock nozzles like bug bombs. More of a fogger than a grenade.
ETA: I don't see any on Amazon now, only the hand held spray. They must have reconsidered public sales with all the recent news. I remember when I bought mine a couple months ago I got the last four in stock from one place. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 8:42:23 AM EDT
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I got mine from Amazon, Fox Five Point Three. 2 oz cans that have the push down and lock nozzles like bug bombs. More of a fogger than a grenade. ETA: I don't see any on Amazon now, only the hand held spray. They must have reconsidered public sales with all the recent news. I remember when I bought mine a couple months ago I got the last four in stock from one place. I came here to say this. They're pretty available. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 11:13:40 AM EDT
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Not pepper gas grenades, but backcountry.com has Kimber blaster 2's on sale for $33- and free shipping
I am not affiliated with them in any way. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 1:54:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2016 2:11:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2016 11:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now. If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 12:00:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryTriggered. Fuck I hate those. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 8:33:43 AM EDT
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Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now. If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. I believe you, because as a former .mil LEO and state corrections officer, I know. Nowhere did I say it completely incapacitates. OP is looking for a deterrent or distraction, I assume, if cornered in a vehicle during his travels by a mob, short of having to use a car as a deadly force weapon to defend oneself. Large discharge OC canisters provides one. Yes you can fight through it if you're determined enough. I'm glad though that you have a crystal ball that will tell you what a mob will and will not do if faced with exposure of a chemical agent. Unfortunately, I have no such device on hand, only my personal experiences and observations to draw upon. ETA: Here is a cheaper and non-pyrotechnic method for what you seek OP. Sabre Red Pepper Spray Lock-on grenades |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 3:02:53 PM EDT
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Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now. If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Based on my experience, I would say that OC / CS works better on rioting crowds than combative individuals. Mob mentality works both ways - as aggression becomes amplified, so does panic & fear. Additionally, I have seen rioters dispersed with smoke only. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 12:27:50 AM EDT
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Based on my experience, I would say that OC / CS works better on rioting crowds than combative individuals. Mob mentality works both ways - as aggression becomes amplified, so does panic & fear. Additionally, I have seen rioters dispersed with smoke only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now. If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Based on my experience, I would say that OC / CS works better on rioting crowds than combative individuals. Mob mentality works both ways - as aggression becomes amplified, so does panic & fear. Additionally, I have seen rioters dispersed with smoke only. Hahahahahahaha. Pics or it didn't happen. 
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Posted: 7/16/2016 1:32:57 AM EDT
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Regular-sized CS/CN smoke grenades sell for $150-$250 a piece.
CS/CN 37mm smoke rounds sell for $40-60 a piece. The prices on gunbroker have gone stupid crazy in the last couple months. Dum, dum, dum. The sellers who still have grenades for sale have launched their prices into space. There are lots of differences when it comes to old 37mm rounds and what launchers will fire them. Having said that, I've sold off my collection of military/civilian CS/OC/CN 37mm and hand-held grenades for over $9,000 in the last couple months. If anyone has any questions, please ask. If anyone wants to educate themselves about CS/CN gas grenades/rounds, buy this book written in 1966. It's great and still very relevant as tear gas and how it is dispensed has not evolved a whole since it was written. In fact, the 1960's were the haydays. Tear Gas Munitions: An Analysis of Commercial Riot Gas Guns, Tear Gas Projectiles, Grenades, Small Arms Ammunition, and Related Tear Gas Devices Hardcover – Import, January 1, 1966by Thomas F. Swearengen https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Gas-Munitions-Commercial-Projectiles/dp/B0000EGNCL
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Posted: 7/16/2016 1:51:07 AM EDT
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snip... If anyone wants to educate themselves about CS/CN gas grenades/rounds, buy this book written in 1966. It's great and still very relevant as tear gas and how it is dispensed has not evolved a whole since it was written. In fact, the 1960's were the haydays. Tear Gas Munitions: An Analysis of Commercial Riot Gas Guns, Tear Gas Projectiles, Grenades, Small Arms Ammunition, and Related Tear Gas Devices Hardcover – Import, January 1, 1966by Thomas F. Swearengen https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Gas-Munitions-Commercial-Projectiles/dp/B0000EGNCL Quote HistoryQuoted:
snip... If anyone wants to educate themselves about CS/CN gas grenades/rounds, buy this book written in 1966. It's great and still very relevant as tear gas and how it is dispensed has not evolved a whole since it was written. In fact, the 1960's were the haydays. Tear Gas Munitions: An Analysis of Commercial Riot Gas Guns, Tear Gas Projectiles, Grenades, Small Arms Ammunition, and Related Tear Gas Devices Hardcover – Import, January 1, 1966by Thomas F. Swearengen https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Gas-Munitions-Commercial-Projectiles/dp/B0000EGNCL LOL 2 Used from $464.94 |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 1:57:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip... If anyone wants to educate themselves about CS/CN gas grenades/rounds, buy this book written in 1966. It's great and still very relevant as tear gas and how it is dispensed has not evolved a whole since it was written. In fact, the 1960's were the haydays. Tear Gas Munitions: An Analysis of Commercial Riot Gas Guns, Tear Gas Projectiles, Grenades, Small Arms Ammunition, and Related Tear Gas Devices Hardcover – Import, January 1, 1966by Thomas F. Swearengen https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Gas-Munitions-Commercial-Projectiles/dp/B0000EGNCL LOL 2 Used from $464.94 |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 2:15:10 AM EDT
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Yeah, however, there is not and I'll bet never will be another book which covers the subject as well as US Marine Corps CWO Swearengen did in his book written in 1966. It's a very technical book written for professionals. I paid $100 for my copy. I don't doubt that at all. Still $400 would be a bunch of money to throw at the book for anyone not in the profession of explody things. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 2:22:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't doubt that at all. Still $400 would be a bunch of money to throw at the book for anyone not in the profession of explody things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, however, there is not and I'll bet never will be another book which covers the subject as well as US Marine Corps CWO Swearengen did in his book written in 1966. It's a very technical book written for professionals. I paid $100 for my copy. I don't doubt that at all. Still $400 would be a bunch of money to throw at the book for anyone not in the profession of explody things. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 2:46:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/16/2016 12:30:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Keepshooting.com used to have an aerosol-type OC "grenade", but I think they're out of stock now. If getting boxed in by protesters on the road is a concern for you, I'd suggest a large canister of OC or bear spray, along with some decon wipes for yourself. Spray the shit out of the mob and get out of there. But if you've never had formal exposure/training to OC, you may want to expose yourself first to know what you're dealing with. You will get contaminated, and you don't want to freak out when that happens. Lolololololololol. That's a good way to have the mob bum rush and kill your ass. OC doesn't completely incapacitate. You CAN fight though it, and if you are angry/pissed off enough you will. Don't believe me ask any LEO, corrections officer, or anyone who has to get hit with the shit because they carry it. Agreed but a good tool in the toolbox. My wife likes looking at the pics of my oc qual 
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Posted: 7/16/2016 12:33:01 PM EDT
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Regular-sized CS/CN smoke grenades sell for $150-$250 a piece. CS/CN 37mm smoke rounds sell for $40-60 a piece. The prices on gunbroker have gone stupid crazy in the last couple months. Dum, dum, dum. The sellers who still have grenades for sale have launched their prices into space. There are lots of differences when it comes to old 37mm rounds and what launchers will fire them. Having said that, I've sold off my collection of military/civilian CS/OC/CN 37mm and hand-held grenades for over $9,000 in the last couple months. If anyone has any questions, please ask. If anyone wants to educate themselves about CS/CN gas grenades/rounds, buy this book written in 1966. It's great and still very relevant as tear gas and how it is dispensed has not evolved a whole since it was written. In fact, the 1960's were the haydays. Tear Gas Munitions: An Analysis of Commercial Riot Gas Guns, Tear Gas Projectiles, Grenades, Small Arms Ammunition, and Related Tear Gas Devices Hardcover – Import, January 1, 1966by Thomas F. Swearengen https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Gas-Munitions-Commercial-Projectiles/dp/B0000EGNCL Isnt that the name of a guy on the show deadwood? |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 3:10:31 PM EDT
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I go to Botach, as they have enough turnover to get far out expiration dates.
I have had aerosol dispensers (why call them grenades?) for about five years. I added more after the Motorcycle riot where the NYPD officer beat down some poor guy. The bad guys deserved to be shot in that situation, but some OC might have dissuaded the thugs. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 7:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI'm seeing a 25 unit minimum Quoted:
I go to Botach, as they have enough turnover to get far out expiration dates. I have had aerosol dispensers (why call them grenades?) for about five years. I added more after the Motorcycle riot where the NYPD officer beat down some poor guy. The bad guys deserved to be shot in that situation, but some OC might have dissuaded the thugs. Specific link? |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:17:40 PM EDT
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FOX 2oz Lock-on Top
FOX 4oz Lock-on top SABRE Defense "Aerosol Grenade" One of the reviews from the Sabre Defense one Pretty much a human bug bomb |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 10:01:28 PM EDT
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Aerosols really are just bug-bomb tech. They are intended for indoor use. They don't put out anywhere near the volume of pyro. Pretty much a waste trying to use them outdoors.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 10:23:43 PM EDT
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Is it assumed that the thrower is wearing a mask?
Seems impossible to use one without, as it would be difficult to press the cap/top and then throw it without breathing in some, or even a little blowing back into your eyes/etc. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 10:53:03 PM EDT
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All pepper spray delivery methods are likely to contaminate the user. These bug bomb type aerosol even more then the hand help sprays.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 11:24:01 PM EDT
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All pepper spray delivery methods are likely to contaminate the user. These bug bomb type aerosol even more then the hand help sprays. This. There is no delay on them. That said, it's not a terrible amount of contamination. Not like walking in a gassed room or even getting sprayed. |
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