User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 9/8/2022 7:35:20 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwmc: With e-file available, why did you do a paper Form 4? This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. |
|
|
|
TN, USA
|
Posted: 9/8/2022 7:07:49 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: Originally Posted By bmwmc: With e-file available, why did you do a paper Form 4? This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. Genuinely curious about a two month approval. Individual in another state transferred to a dealer in your state? That's what took 2 months? Once a dealer in your state had the can, he could have e-filed to you. I don't see how it would matter used vs new can. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/8/2022 7:19:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#3]
Deleted
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2022 2:56:20 AM EST
[#4]
Individual Silencer through SS
Submitted 08/13/21 Pending 08/23/21 Approved 08/27/22 To Dealer 09/2/22 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2022 11:52:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: mcordell]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwmc: Genuinely curious about a two month approval. Individual in another state transferred to a dealer in your state? That's what took 2 months? Once a dealer in your state had the can, he could have e-filed to you. I don't see how it would matter used vs new can. Nope, individual directly to a dealer in their same state and then Form 3 to a dealer in my state. Suppressor was purchased from an individual out of state. The process for this is generally as follows: The individual files a Form 4 (the person who currently has possession of the suppressor/person selling the can) to get it transferred to a FFL/SOT in their state so it can then be placed on a Form 3 (FFL/SOT to FFL/SOT) to the receiving dealer that is out of state. In this case the first Form 4 from the individual (party selling the can) to the FFL/SOT (in their state) has to be done via a paper Form 4. Once it arrives on a Form 3 to the out of state FFL/SOT it can then go on a Form 4 (to the end purchaser / individual) that can be e-filed. Alternatively - some dealers that are out of state may be cool with receiving a class 3 item from an individual. In my case they were not, so had to go through a local FFL to get it on a Form 3 first. The additional Form 3 doesn't add much wait at all. Just a little bit more of a pain in the ass. End result was still a paper form 4 that got approved in under 3 months. Sorry if that was long winded. Probably could have articulated that better. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 1:47:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: steve8140]
[#6]
Paper form 4 - suppressor
Trust with two responsible people Dead Air Sandman-S Purchased 5/30/21 Went pending 6/18/21 Approved 9/2/22 Pickup from dealer 9/10/22 Examiner was Danela Gilbert 468 days since purchase date. 442 days from pending to approved. Just shy of 15 months. This is my first suppressor. |
|
|
|
MI, USA
|
Posted: 9/11/2022 2:07:17 AM EST
[#7]
Paper form 4 trust suppressor
ATF check cashed 7/22/2021 Stamp date approved 8/26/2022 |
|
|
FL, USA
|
Posted: 9/11/2022 9:16:51 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: Nope, individual directly to a dealer in their same state and then Form 3 to a dealer in my state. Suppressor was purchased from an individual out of state. The process for this is generally as follows: The individual files a Form 4 (the person who currently has possession of the suppressor/person selling the can) to get it transferred to a FFL/SOT in their state so it can then be placed on a Form 3 (FFL/SOT to FFL/SOT) to the receiving dealer that is out of state. In this case the first Form 4 from the individual (party selling the can) to the FFL/SOT (in their state) has to be done via a paper Form 4. Once it arrives on a Form 3 to the out of state FFL/SOT it can then go on a Form 4 (to the end purchaser / individual) that can be e-filed. Alternatively - some dealers that are out of state may be cool with receiving a class 3 item from an individual. In my case they were not, so had to go through a local FFL to get it on a Form 3 first. The additional Form 3 doesn't add much wait at all. Just a little bit more of a pain in the ass. End result was still a paper form 4 that got approved in under 3 months. Sorry if that was long winded. Probably could have articulated that better. How long was the initial form 4 to dealer? I’m a FFL/SOT and I bought a Sten out of state from a private individual and was just curious. |
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 9/14/2022 5:19:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: jeremywills]
[#9]
Sandman S MIL in FDE.
Trust on paper form 4 Submitted May 5 2021 Approved Aug 30 2022 Emailed from dealer and in hand Sep 13 2022 Tottal of 481 days from submitted to in hand. Longest wait for me yet. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/14/2022 8:32:26 AM EST
[#10]
Form 4 individual
Purchased 7/30/21 Check cashed 9/18/21 Approved 9/06/22 In hand 9/13/22 Keith D. Hammond |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/15/2022 12:39:02 PM EST
[#11]
Form 4 Individual
Rex Silentium MG7 Purchased: 6/3/2021 Check Cashed: 6/30/2021 Approved: 8/18/2022 Received at Dealer: 9/13/2022 440 days between the check cashing and receiving the stamp at my dealer. |
|
|
|
DC, USA
|
Posted: 9/20/2022 1:01:26 PM EST
[#12]
Form 4 Individual
YHM Resonator K Purchased: July/2021 Check Cashed: 8/3/2021 Approved: ????? Received at Dealer: 9/20/2022 Just got the call 5 minutes ago. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/20/2022 9:18:37 PM EST
[#13]
Form 4 trust
Purchased 8/1/2021 Can in hand 9/20/22 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/21/2022 1:39:19 PM EST
[#14]
Silencer- Individual
Purchased: 10/02/2021 Check cashed: 10/12/2021 Approved: 09/13/2022 Wolverine PBS-1 It’s a nice piece. I have a bunch of adapters. Can’t wait to break it in. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/21/2022 6:17:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: whiteryno]
[#15]
Form 4 trust
1 RP YHM turbo K Check Cashed: 9/9/2021 Approved form Received at Dealer: 9/21/2022 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/22/2022 1:30:06 AM EST
[#16]
F4 - Trust
Purchased 3 cans 2017 (under FFL) - and kept under FFL until Sep. 2022* - Submitted F4 Aug 2021 -all 3 - Approved F4 Sep 2022 -all 3 - Took 2 weeks for the F4's to arrive in the mail. From F4s put in mailbox, to approved F4s received - 13 months - *Posted this, since I figured they lost the F3...couldn't find records, etc. No issues on that side, it all went well. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/23/2022 2:16:54 PM EST
[#17]
Form4 2 person Trust
Deadair Mask HD Deadair giveaway: 7/04/21 Check Cashed: 8/06/21 Approved: 8/31/22 Received at Dealer: 9/23/2022 414 days between the check cashing and receiving the stamp at my dealer. |
|
|
|
DC, USA
|
Posted: 9/23/2022 8:54:08 PM EST
[#18]
Second stamp back in 3 days
Form 4 Individual Silencerco Sparrow Purchased: October 3, 2021 Check Cashed: October 12, 2021 Approved: ????? Received at Dealer: 9/23/2022 |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/26/2022 10:00:56 AM EST
[#19]
Form 4 Paper - Individual
Mailed - 10/2/21 Checked Cashed - 10/7/21 Approved - 9/13/22 In hand - 9/25/22 354 days between check cashing and stamp being received |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/26/2022 4:46:23 PM EST
[#20]
Paper form 4 - suppressor
Trust with two responsible people Rugged Obsidian 9 Purchased 8/22/21 Went pending 9/17/21 Approved 9/14/22 Pickup from dealer 9/26/22 Examiner was Sara B. Free???? 400 days since purchase date. 362 days from pending to approved. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/26/2022 6:26:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: swampvol]
[#21]
Form 4/Individual
Ruger Silent-SR Rimfire can. Check cashed 9/22/2021 Approve 9/14/2022 At Dealer 9/26/2022 Too lazy to do the math, but I know it's too damn long. ETA: (26-22)+365 = 369 days from cashed to delivered lol |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/27/2022 6:03:06 AM EST
[#22]
Form 4 Individual
Purchased 08/22/21 Pending 09/14/21 Approved 09/16/22 Picked up 09/26/22 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/28/2022 1:12:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: michealj]
[#23]
Q Half Nelson.
Purchased: 13 Sept. 2021 Transfer to dealer: 13 Oct 2021 Form 4: Individual Mailed: 17 Oct 2021 Approved: 20 Sept 2022 Arrived at dealer: 26 Sept 2022 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/30/2022 2:39:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zip196]
[#24]
YHM Turbo T2
Silencer Shop single shot Purchased 7/30/21 Check cashed 8/24/21 Stamp at dealer 9/27/22 Picked up 9/29/22 FATF |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/4/2022 11:27:45 PM EST
[#25]
Paper form 4
Filed 7/17/21 Pending 10/18/21 Picked up today 9/4/22 No clue when it was approved, but I got the email and picked up today |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/7/2022 5:58:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: high-drag_low-speed]
[#26]
YHM R9
Trust Silencer Shop Purchased: 6/21/21 from Hanshon Bros At my dealer: 7/23/21? Filed: 8/6/21 Checked cashed: 8/17/21 Approved: 9/3/22 Stamp at dealer: ? Dealer called and picked up on: 10/7/22 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2022 11:19:17 AM EST
[#27]
Purchased November 1, 2021
Check cashed November 12, 2021 Approved October 3, 2022 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/10/2022 5:39:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: shortround]
[#28]
Paper Form 4 Trust Suppressor - purchased through Silencershop. 1 RP.
ATF cashed check 09/17/2021 Stamp approved 9/29/2022 Stamp arrived at dealer 10/10/2022 388 days. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/11/2022 4:26:48 PM EST
[#29]
Two F4 silencers, both with the same dates:
Mailed: 10/25/2021 Cashed: 11/4/2021 Approved: 9/27/2022 At Dealer: 10/7/2022 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/12/2022 11:46:48 PM EST
[#30]
Form 4 Individual
Rad 22 Suppressor Filed 3/4/22 Approved 10/12/22 My first suppressor. Mailed paperwork for 2 SBR the same day in March and both were approved in less than 2 months. Makes no sense that this should take 7 months assuming background checks are the same. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/13/2022 9:11:34 AM EST
[#31]
SiCo Omega 300 purchased through Capital Armory on a 1 RP trust.
Purchased 7/2/21 Docusign 7/2/21 Check mailed 7/7/21 Received 9/21/21 Check cashed ??? Approved ??? Stamp at CA 10/12/22 |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 10/13/2022 10:14:16 PM EST
[#32]
Wolfman 9mm
1 RP Trust Submitted 10/9/21 Approved 09/29/22 In hand 10/13/22 369 days total |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2022 8:08:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Gloworm19]
[#33]
YHM Turbo K, Form 4, individual
Submitted: 11/04/21 Checked cashed about 2 wks later Approved: 10/12/22 Stamp arrived, item picked up at my FFL: 10/18/22 349 days in jail, but she's free now.  |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/22/2022 10:36:33 AM EST
[#34]
Paper form 4 through SS kiosk
Trust with one responsible person YHM Turbo K Purchased 5/14/21 Form 4 mailed 5/17/21 Check cashed 5/24/21 Approved 6/7/22 Finally got around to checking on it on 9/13/22 and was told it had been approved on 6/7/22. Original tax stamp supposedly lost in mail. Took two weeks after second attempt to get a copy of the approved form for it to arrive. Finally picked up on 10/11/22. 389 days purchased to approved |
|
|
IA, USA
|
Posted: 10/22/2022 2:04:09 PM EST
[#35]
Form 4 individual
YHM Turbo T2 Purchased: 1Oct2021 Check cashed: 4Nov2021 Approved: 27Sep2022 Picked up: 20Oct2022 |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2022 8:57:27 PM EST
[#36]
Form 4 Single Shot Trust
Submitted: 11/11/2021 Check Cashed: 11/21/2021 Approved: 10/17/2022 At Dealer: 10/24/2022 337 days between check cashed and stamp at the dealer. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2022 7:44:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: chargerdude70]
[#37]
Form 4 Trust 1 RP
Sons first NFA item Purchased: 09/06/2021 CK cashed: 10/01/2021 Approved: 10/07/2022 At Dealer: 10/21/2022 371 days Ck cashed to approval 410 days purchase to to dealer |
|
|
|
FL, USA
|
Posted: 10/26/2022 9:12:07 PM EST
[#38]
2 Supressors….paper form 4
2 person trust Check cashed 9/17/21 Approved/signed 9/22/22 Form at dealer 10/22/22 The numbers one this thread are ridiculous, but these were my last paper form 4s |
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 10/28/2022 12:35:01 PM EST
[#39]
Sig MCX SBR
Trust, 1 RP Purchased 8/26/21 Check Cashed 9/11/21 Stamp approved 8/11/22 Called by dealer 8/26/22 1 full year. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/1/2022 6:59:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: carholio]
[#40]
YHM Turbo T2 - Silencer Shop paper form 4 - trust
Purchased - 11/4/21 My local SS dealer submitted form to ATF - 11/18/21 Approved - 10/21/22 Picked up - 11/1/22 3 days shy of a full year from date of purchase. . |
|
|
|
TN, USA
|
Posted: 11/4/2022 6:04:54 PM EST
[#41]
Individual - Sico Hybrid 46
Purchased 9-21-21 Cashed 10-19-21 Approved 10-20-22 Mailed stamp to dealer 10-25-22 Picked up 11-4-22 410 days Examiner - N. Hartsoc |
|
|
NV, USA
|
Posted: 11/7/2022 8:50:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: sks447]
[#42]
YHM Stinger .22 can.
Paper form 4 at dealer. Purchased 9/28/2021 Check cashed ? Approved 10/3/2022 Received 11/5/2022 404 days. Fun fact - Anyone could have made and had a baby in a shorter period of time. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/10/2022 7:06:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: bnielsonak47]
[#43]
Trust-2 person for an OSS(at the time) 7.62
ATF cashed check Dec 16th 2021 Approved Oct 28th 2022 Picked up 11/10/2022 I can’t math right now |
|
|
|
SC, USA
|
Posted: 11/10/2022 9:31:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11B3XCIB]
[#44]
Individual Paper Form 4
Purchased through SS: 11/08/21 Pending with ATF: 11/29/21 Approved: 11/02/22 ETA: Picked up: 11/14/22 |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2022 1:37:20 PM EST
[#45]
SF 762Mini SS Single Shot Trust
Check cashed 12/1/21 Approved 10/29/22 333 days from check cashing Pickup up 11/8/22 |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2022 12:35:59 AM EST
[#46]
Colt m16a2
Form 4 paper, trust, 1 RP Ohio Pending 1/24/22 Approved 11/4/22 Received 11/12/22 286 days by my math. Finally...I am usually on the other side of the bell curve! |
|
|
FL, USA
|
Posted: 11/14/2022 10:12:11 AM EST
[#47]
Dead Air - Nomad 30
Trust - 2 RP Purchased: 11/08/2021 Check Cashed: 11/18/2021 Approved: 10/17/2022 Dealer called: 11/11/2022 Picked Up: 11/12/2022 Examiner: Kristin McFalls |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/22/2022 6:44:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Real_PhillBert]
[#48]
Rugged Razor 7.62 - Individual
Purchased - 11/8/2021 Submitted - 12/2/2021 Check Cashed - 12/18/2021 Approved - 11/7/2022 Arrived at dealer - 11/21/2022 In hand - 11/22/2022 Examiner - Trish Bartles 355 days from submission to in hand. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/29/2022 3:08:39 PM EST
[#49]
Form 4 Suppressor Individual.
In state to in state. Submitted 02.01.2022 Pending 02.07.2022 Approved 11.14.2022 |
|
|
|
TN, USA
|
Posted: 12/2/2022 8:27:14 PM EST
[#50]
YHM Turbo K
Form mailed 10/1/2021 Check cashed 10/8/2021 Called ATF 10/27/2022 (approval was 9/19/2022) Dealer requested certified copy 10/27/2022 Called ATF 11/15/2022 no record of dealers request Dealer requested certified copy second time 11/15/2022 Original stamp at dealer 12/2/2022 (post marked 11/22/2022) 346 days check cashed to approval 74 days approval to stamp at dealer Fired a few shots into the night because I believe in trying new toys immediately. Think I'm going to like it. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
