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Posted: 12/21/2015 1:19:13 PM EDT
TNVC has the new GoPro mount coming out in January for a little over $400. I just saw where Night Combat Solutions has something similar for the same price. Has anyone touched one of these units yet? Weight for either unit? Pros/Cons for each?
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:06:15 PM EDT
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It seems lately everything we do gets copied....
 
Wonder how long before TNVC/Unity Patented T.A.P.S. system gets copied  If it does, I can tell ya that one will get vehemently interesting!
P.S. As for time frame...(You can see our finished product you posted). We announced this LAST January at Shot as NO ONE was doing this for a PVS system and we've been working feverishly the whole year perfecting the device. We are putting the final touches on the units and are shipping in a few weeks. We are also going to be showing more variations at the Next upcoming Shot Show based on a years work of testing. Here's one in hand from last week. 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:09:02 PM EDT
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I was curious which came first and the price is within $2....that seemed odd too
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:13:22 PM EDT
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TNVCs looks much more solid.
I hate to ask this again and derail this thread, But would a gopro 3+ be good enough for this application? Im on the fence with ordering one |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:19:48 PM EDT
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I like that the TNVC unit uses the wilcox MHRS prism and amber filter which can be replaced or multiples purchased without buying the full system. I also like that the gopro fits within its standard clamshell case and that the gopro adapter can stay attached to the device while the gopro is used on it's own.
The other one you're showing seems like it is all attached via the eyecup threads and is either fully attached or fully detached. The gopro is not in it's usual enclosure so you can't quick-swap from a day-use gopro on an NVG bracket mount, to NVG's plus gopro. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:27:05 PM EDT
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TNVCs looks much more solid. I hate to ask this again and derail this thread, But would a gopro 3+ be good enough for this application? Im on the fence with ordering one The 3+ will work since it has the wide FOV setting which is needed for our system. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:28:06 PM EDT
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The 3+ will work since it has the wide FOV setting which is needed for our system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TNVCs looks much more solid. I hate to ask this again and derail this thread, But would a gopro 3+ be good enough for this application? Im on the fence with ordering one The 3+ will work since it has the wide FOV setting which is needed for our system. 
Thanks! Let me kick the idea around some more. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:06:03 PM EDT
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I was curious which came first and the price is within $2....that seemed odd too Yea, it was odd once we showed the final product here on the ARFCOM November 19th (we've been showing and talking about several iterations since last January) and once we went live HERE and our FB page we saw another forum and FB showing copies on the SAME day showing an unfinished piece...
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:18:45 PM EDT
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Well I am now in on one of them too.
I need to hide my credit card from myself 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:20:36 PM EDT
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I like that the TNVC unit uses the wilcox MHRS prism and amber filter which can be replaced or multiples purchased without buying the full system. I also like that the gopro fits within its standard clamshell case and that the gopro adapter can stay attached to the device while the gopro is used on it's own. The other one you're showing seems like it is all attached via the eyecup threads and is either fully attached or fully detached. The gopro is not in it's usual enclosure so you can't quick-swap from a day-use gopro on an NVG bracket mount, to NVG's plus gopro. We went through a years worth of testing iterations to get to the point of the highlights you mentioned. Thank you. We think many will like the features and by the look of all the pre-sales we've had, we think we did it right. 
When I briefed the higher ups at Go-Pro about this project this summer they were VERY pleased as well, thus we are now a GoPro distributor and we have a few other surprises at the upcoming Shot Show.... Vic |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:55:06 PM EDT
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To be fair, I was about to buy a Wilcox beam splitter and make my own out of hot glue and Popsicle sticks, but I don't think I could have charged $400 for it.
Torry Pines also had a gizmo for beam splitting a gopo on your daytime rifle scope, but it was this big honking thing that wouldn't ever fit around a PVS-14. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:42:59 PM EDT
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To be fair, I was about to buy a Wilcox beam splitter and make my own out of hot glue and Popsicle sticks, but I don't think I could have charged $400 for it.
Torry Pines also had a gizmo for beam splitting a gopo on your daytime rifle scope, but it was this big honking thing that wouldn't ever fit around a PVS-14. We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that. 
We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time.  We'd rather innovate than violate.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 5:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that. We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time. We'd rather innovate than violate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To be fair, I was about to buy a Wilcox beam splitter and make my own out of hot glue and Popsicle sticks, but I don't think I could have charged $400 for it. Torry Pines also had a gizmo for beam splitting a gopo on your daytime rifle scope, but it was this big honking thing that wouldn't ever fit around a PVS-14. We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that. We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time. We'd rather innovate than violate. I hope to try one of these mounts out someday. How will it work on my BNVD-SGs? Will it cause one eyepiece to be too close to my eye? (the eyepiece with the camera attached) Or would it be better to use this on my loaner PVS-14 setup? What about the in-line gopro/pvs mount that y'all announced around the same time you announced this prism model? I haven't seen/heard anymore about that one. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 6:56:17 PM EDT
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We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that.
We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time. We'd rather innovate than violate.
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To be fair, I was about to buy a Wilcox beam splitter and make my own out of hot glue and Popsicle sticks, but I don't think I could have charged $400 for it.
Torry Pines also had a gizmo for beam splitting a gopo on your daytime rifle scope, but it was this big honking thing that wouldn't ever fit around a PVS-14. We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that.
We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time. We'd rather innovate than violate.
If you are not going to do anything for NV scopes doesn't this make your earlier statement below moot Quoted: If possible, do you foresee additional adapters being made that would allow it to work with something like a D740? Yes we do. Shot Show is right around the corner. Vic |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 7:17:44 PM EDT
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If you are not going to do anything for NV scopes doesn't this make your earlier statement below moot Quoted: If possible, do you foresee additional adapters being made that would allow it to work with something like a D740? Yes we do. Shot Show is right around the corner. Vic Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be fair, I was about to buy a Wilcox beam splitter and make my own out of hot glue and Popsicle sticks, but I don't think I could have charged $400 for it.
Torry Pines also had a gizmo for beam splitting a gopo on your daytime rifle scope, but it was this big honking thing that wouldn't ever fit around a PVS-14. We looked at that early on (I think it's patented also) to be very careful NOT to be copying anything and no one was doing anything for a PVS-14 and Go-Pro last year. (I think you were at Shot and saw that too?) The closest was Wilcox with their MHRS integrated battle driven system that has been around for several years. We even went to Wilcox to show them this product and ask for permission to use their proprietary prism rather than COPY their prism or more terrible, do an end-around making one that is just a bit different and call it this or that.
We will not be doing anything for NV rifle scopes as we will NOT copy, nor violate any patents. it seems there is enough NV helmet mounts that are copied that seem to violate Patents at the present time. We'd rather innovate than violate.
If you are not going to do anything for NV scopes doesn't this make your earlier statement below moot Quoted: If possible, do you foresee additional adapters being made that would allow it to work with something like a D740? Yes we do. Shot Show is right around the corner. Vic No Sir...We have other designs for other things. They're other adapters for rifle scopes out there we researched and our current unit is specifically designed for monocular types and I was not referring to rifle scopes my mistake. Torry and others have designs for rifle scopes, spotting scopes etc. using a GoPro.
Here is the Torry unit 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 9:37:12 PM EDT
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Will you have any unitys at shot for sale?
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Posted: 12/22/2015 1:45:25 PM EDT
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We are not offically allowed to sell over the counter at Shot. We can and do take orders from dealers and ship from our warehouse. Thank you.
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Posted: 12/22/2015 7:05:59 PM EDT
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A couple of notes about the TNVC Go Pro adapter.
1. The system is waterproof, utilizing the proven GoPro Housing. 2. It uses the excellent, proven Wilcox Amber Prism 3. It's designed using quality injection molded polymer 4. It's designed to mount to the strongest part of the unit, providing stability and reliability. 5. We utilized molded in Steel inserts 6. It's been tested by Unity, TNVC, and others extensively 7. The system is designed with some expandability, Check out the SHOT show coverage 8. It's backed by TNVC and Unity I cannot comment on the other unit, I've never seen or held it. |
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