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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:48:46 AM EDT
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Haven't done it with a supressed Mk12 or Mk18 specifically, but I've fired suppressed AR's left handed. Only really bothered me when doing full-auto mag dumps.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:02:08 AM EDT
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I have no issues shooting left handed with my suppressor on it. All I did was use a little of the gasket material on my Gunfighter Charging Handle and it works fine for me.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:22:39 AM EDT
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A PRI gasbuster does not help. It actually vents the gas right in the face of a lefty, just look at the design on the underside.
I am a lefty, and have a 12" SBR with a 5.56 suppressor. When I go to the range and shoot static, I hardly even notice it. When I took it to a local carbine competition, I thought I was going to die. As you are dynamically moving and shooting at a rapid pace across multiple targets, especially when advancing forward, breathing becomes critical and something that was VERY hard to do with a suppressed SBR. I had issues with gas in my eyes, and mostly with the inability to take a deep breath.... choking on the gases. Yes, it is an issue. I don't see how any lefty says it isn't.... but that's just me. Note, this is only an issue with the suppressor attached. When I take it off its no problem, just like any other AR. I'll be investigating piston systems for my SBR, or playing with a switchblock type device. Leaning toward piston, as those vent the gases way forward. |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:28:19 AM EDT
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I have no issues shooting left handed with my suppressor on it. All I did was use a little of the gasket material on my Gunfighter Charging Handle and it works fine for me. ^ this, plus i use adjustable gas blocks from paladin (low setting) the blowback is just noticeable |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:54:44 AM EDT
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I run my Surefire Mini on a DD MK18 upper and BCM 11.5 upper with barely any blowback. My uncle, who is a lefty barely noticed anything as well. The biggest thing he noticed was the increase in gunpowder smell.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 9:04:10 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies...I guess I'll go ahead with the MK18 build...just wanted some opinions :)
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Posted: 3/20/2013 10:54:18 AM EDT
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I'm kind of in the same boat. My suppressor should be approved any day now, so I guess I will find out soon how bad the blowback is for us Lefties.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:18:32 PM EDT
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Shooting left handed with standard uppers, in my personal opinion, sucks.
The main thing you'll be dealing with is blowback from the chamber. Gasses trapped in the barrel get flung back at your face during extraction... extraction which is more violent than normal thanks to increased gas port pressures (unless you're running an adjustable upper, gas block, or gas tube). The particles and gas that get flung back can actually be kind of stinging IMHO. I would suggest ordering a left handed upper/BCG from Stag and doing a conversion, something i've done for many local SWAT folks who use suppressors regularly. |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:53:33 PM EDT
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How much does an adjustable gas block help with this?? Also how about an H3 buffer too?
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:19:17 PM EDT
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The main thing you'll be dealing with is blowback from the chamber. Gasses trapped in the barrel get flung back at your face during extraction... extraction which is more violent than normal thanks to increased gas port pressures (unless you're running an adjustable upper, gas block, or gas tube). This is my understanding as well. Most of the blowback comes from the bolt unlocking early and the extra pressure forcing gas and carbon back from the chamber. On my 11.5" I have an adjustable gas block and an H2 buffer. And my suppressor is 7.62 on a 5.56 rifle. I am hoping that this combination will be enough to mitigate the blowback. But I will just have see when I get my stamp soon as there are just too many factors to really speculate about at this point. |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:25:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have no issues shooting left handed with my suppressor on it. All I did was use a little of the gasket material on my Gunfighter Charging Handle and it works fine for me. Same for me |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:33:16 PM EDT
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Can you even put a low profile adjustable gas block on a DD MK18 upper?? Just wondering if anyone has done it and if it helped with gas blowback.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:40:36 PM EDT
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Can you even put a low profile adjustable gas block on a DD MK18 upper?? Just wondering if anyone has done it and if it helped with gas blowback. I have a Syrac Adjustable Lo-Pro Gas Block and it fits under my MI Gen 2 Free Float 1-piece rail and I think it will fit under any standard quad rail. Here is the blueprint/diagram: 
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:31:01 PM EDT
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A PRI gasbuster does not help. It actually vents the gas right in the face of a lefty, just look at the design on the underside. I am a lefty, and have a 12" SBR with a 5.56 suppressor. When I go to the range and shoot static, I hardly even notice it. When I took it to a local carbine competition, I thought I was going to die. As you are dynamically moving and shooting at a rapid pace across multiple targets, especially when advancing forward, breathing becomes critical and something that was VERY hard to do with a suppressed SBR. I had issues with gas in my eyes, and mostly with the inability to take a deep breath.... choking on the gases. Yes, it is an issue. I don't see how any lefty says it isn't.... but that's just me. Note, this is only an issue with the suppressor attached. When I take it off its no problem, just like any other AR. I'll be investigating piston systems for my SBR, or playing with a switchblock type device. Leaning toward piston, as those vent the gases way forward. I agree with this guy, but I'll add that I shoot my Sig 556 suppressed a lot, and the piston is BETTER, but not massivly better. Still a lof of gas coming back out of the ejection port. |
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Posted: 3/20/2013 9:48:03 PM EDT
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Say hello to a stag left handed upper my friend. While you can re-direct the gas from the charging handle and other exits... you can't change where the ejection port is unless you go stag left handed.
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Posted: 3/21/2013 12:40:11 AM EDT
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A PRI gasbuster does not help. It actually vents the gas right in the face of a lefty, just look at the design on the underside. I am a lefty, and have a 12" SBR with a 5.56 suppressor. When I go to the range and shoot static, I hardly even notice it. When I took it to a local carbine competition, I thought I was going to die. As you are dynamically moving and shooting at a rapid pace across multiple targets, especially when advancing forward, breathing becomes critical and something that was VERY hard to do with a suppressed SBR. I had issues with gas in my eyes, and mostly with the inability to take a deep breath.... choking on the gases. Yes, it is an issue. I don't see how any lefty says it isn't.... but that's just me. Note, this is only an issue with the suppressor attached. When I take it off its no problem, just like any other AR. I'll be investigating piston systems for my SBR, or playing with a switchblock type device. Leaning toward piston, as those vent the gases way forward. That is interesting, my experiences in using a suppressed rifle in competition use are totally opposite. Although the main weapon has not been a DI operated one, but a HK416. I am a lefty and if firing slow on the range, yes you can notice the gas quite easily. However in anything that is more dynamic shooting, I really do not notice it. Best Regards! Tuukka Jokinen Ase Utra sound suppressors |
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Posted: 3/21/2013 1:23:52 PM EDT
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From reading these threads over the years I was expecting the Gemtech Trek I got for my AR15 to be unbearable. To be honest, I don't even notice. The only time I think about it is when I get home, look in the mirror and the right side of my face is covered with blow back crap. Just wearing ear plugs instead of big ear muffs that get in the way makes up for the fact that I get a little gas in my face. Since I bought the Trek I never run unsurpressed.
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Posted: 3/22/2013 7:23:32 AM EDT
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I get more gas from my SBRs than I do my 20" rifles, regardless of which shoulder I shoot from. I don't use gas busters or RTV, just eye pro and try not to breath as much.
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:12:45 AM EDT
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From reading these threads over the years I was expecting the Gemtech Trek I got for my AR15 to be unbearable. To be honest, I don't even notice. The only time I think about it is when I get home, look in the mirror and the right side of my face is covered with blow back crap. Just wearing ear plugs instead of big ear muffs that get in the way makes up for the fact that I get a little gas in my face. Since I bought the Trek I never run unsurpressed. Agreed...I've had several people shoot my Surefire on my MK18 and BCM 11.5 and not a single one has even noticed the blowback until I point it out. Only thing any of them have noticed is the extra smell |
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:17:20 AM EDT
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From reading these threads over the years I was expecting the Gemtech Trek I got for my AR15 to be unbearable. To be honest, I don't even notice. The only time I think about it is when I get home, look in the mirror and the right side of my face is covered with blow back crap. Just wearing ear plugs instead of big ear muffs that get in the way makes up for the fact that I get a little gas in my face. Since I bought the Trek I never run unsurpressed. Agreed...I've had several people shoot my Surefire on my MK18 and BCM 11.5 and not a single one has even noticed the blowback until I point it out. Only thing any of them have noticed is the extra smell Rapid fire? 10 targets each with a double tap in less than 10 seconds, then run to another 10 targets and repeat? That's where it's trouble for me. Shooting at a static target at a range? Who cares. |
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:23:12 AM EDT
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From reading these threads over the years I was expecting the Gemtech Trek I got for my AR15 to be unbearable. To be honest, I don't even notice. The only time I think about it is when I get home, look in the mirror and the right side of my face is covered with blow back crap. Just wearing ear plugs instead of big ear muffs that get in the way makes up for the fact that I get a little gas in my face. Since I bought the Trek I never run unsurpressed. Agreed...I've had several people shoot my Surefire on my MK18 and BCM 11.5 and not a single one has even noticed the blowback until I point it out. Only thing any of them have noticed is the extra smell Rapid fire? 10 targets each with a double tap in less than 10 seconds, then run to another 10 targets and repeat? That's where it's trouble for me. Shooting at a static target at a range? Who cares. I will try some run and gun as you suggested and see if I notice the smoke. Would a piston driven system leave more smoke up front and create less blow back to the shooter? |
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:41:52 AM EDT
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Would a piston driven system leave more smoke up front and create less blow back to the shooter? Yes. None of the DI gas will be directed at the shooter. The chamber pressure will still be present, but with slower unlocking this is potentially less as well. |
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Posted: 3/26/2013 9:53:59 AM EDT
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I used RTV on the charging handle. You still get blowback from the chamber. Price you pay for shooting lefty.
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Posted: 3/26/2013 4:26:49 PM EDT
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A PRI gasbuster does not help. It actually vents the gas right in the face of a lefty, just look at the design on the underside. I am a lefty, and have a 12" SBR with a 5.56 suppressor. When I go to the range and shoot static, I hardly even notice it. When I took it to a local carbine competition, I thought I was going to die. As you are dynamically moving and shooting at a rapid pace across multiple targets, especially when advancing forward, breathing becomes critical and something that was VERY hard to do with a suppressed SBR. I had issues with gas in my eyes, and mostly with the inability to take a deep breath.... choking on the gases. Yes, it is an issue. I don't see how any lefty says it isn't.... but that's just me. Note, this is only an issue with the suppressor attached. When I take it off its no problem, just like any other AR. I'll be investigating piston systems for my SBR, or playing with a switchblock type device. Leaning toward piston, as those vent the gases way forward. went thru the same issues with my SBR build (11.5"). I eventually built a custom left hand ejecting piston (AA) host for my AAC 762SD. I use the rifle for 3gun competition and am very happy with it. fatkid |
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Posted: 3/27/2013 3:36:46 AM EDT
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Can you even put a low profile adjustable gas block on a DD MK18 upper?? Just wondering if anyone has done it and if it helped with gas blowback. There are several out there that require an allen wrench. Mine is the only one that doesn't use any special tools. Preferred method is to use the tip of a bullet. Please see my website for more info: http://micromoa.com 
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Posted: 3/27/2013 6:43:29 PM EDT
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^^^hmmmm, never seen that one before. I cannot use the switchblock with my rail. I am still getting 1-oclock ejection with a blue spring and T2 buffer. that might be another option.
I got a LOTTTT of blowback into my left eye and concussion when I first shot my rifles with my can (10.5'' and 16'' AR's) I went to heavier spring, and I founf the WeaponOutfitters Forward Assist gas deflector at the saem time. I wanted to try it and that thing is AWESOME. like totally awesome. fully recommend
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Posted: 3/28/2013 10:17:21 AM EDT
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Fully recommend for a lefty? Have to check it out.
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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:00:35 PM EDT
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yes, its quite comfy. its pricey and it works.
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Posted: 3/30/2013 4:30:20 PM EDT
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+1 on the micro moa. I have 2 of them.
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Posted: 3/31/2013 11:43:36 AM EDT
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just shot another 80rnds through my 10.5 pistol yesterday. last round is about the only time I feel any blast as the bolt stays back and lets gas out.
I'm running a sprinco red and an ST-T2 buffer. with and without a can it's 100%
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