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Originally Posted By Jm11513: Could someone with a bixler hub mount measure the length and width for me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/527441/1000004749_jpg-3244557.JPG Trying to see if it'll fit with a B&T tl99 handguard View Quote If you are too lazy to click on the link. Here is a picture: ![]() I don't have a Bixler from Shaw yet. I have an original Bixler nut made by Tim Bixler and it has an OD of 1.125" and a length of 1" |
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I documented the Bixler nut diameter made by Shaw on my website here: https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=777 If you are too lazy to click on the link. Here is a picture: https://c3junkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Bixler-nut-diameter.png I don't have a Bixler from Shaw yet. I have an original Bixler nut made by Tim Bixler and it has an OD of 1.125" and a length of 1" View Quote Awesome, thanks! |
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1" long, 1.1280" diameter on my Shaw made, just like Amphibian posted.
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I know you're a SF whore . . . . . |
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Originally Posted By LeeTN: Originally Posted By AmericaJr: Originally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Our website, our free shipping. ![]() tagging for an alpha version ![]() +1 Same. Shaw has ignored my emails so I guess I'm waiting on Hansohn brothers version. |
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New EE sucks! Bring back the old Equipment Exchange!
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I may try to order some cherry balmz.
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: 90 Days today for me, since I ordered. No response to email's, I'll probably try calling Monday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: Originally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Same. Shaw has ignored my emails so I guess I'm waiting on Hansohn brothers version. 90 Days today for me, since I ordered. No response to email's, I'll probably try calling Monday. |
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Talked to them today. "We had problems with the coating flaking off, they should ship this week, or early next week".
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Originally Posted By notso: Ive used the YHM on the R9 for my Mp5 with good results. I havent used Griffin's HUB 3 lug, but I have used their own size on the Revolution 45 and been very happy with that. I cant imagine the HUB version would be any different. View Quote |
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Who wants to be my friend?
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Just got a shipping email. Looks like my adapter is on the way.
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” President Gerald Ford
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Got shipping notification a few hours ago
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” President Gerald Ford
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Mine should be here tomorrow. Ill post pics as soon as i can
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I ordered (3) different thread pattern Bixler mounts from Shaw. They are supposed to be delivered tomorrow.
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I hope Shaw gets the mounting system correct. I ordered one last year and did not fit anything I owned: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Shaw-Arms-Bixler-3-Lug-Adapter/20-544915/
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Mine is scheduled to be here Friday.
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” President Gerald Ford
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I received mine today also. Fit and finish look good. It's cerekoted vs being dlc or nitride coated. Not a big deal but figured it was worth mentioning. I didn't get a chance to test it on a factory 3 lug but it is extremely tight on the Hansohn 3 lug adapter. Concentricity was good with an OCL lithium and the Hansohn 3 lug on a S&W pcc. Ran out of time to test it in any other configurations on any other guns. Hopefully I'll get to mess with it some more this weekend. So far I'm happy with it overall.
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Mine is delayed because of the giant storm in Omaha/ Eastern Nebraska. Probably Monday or Tuesday now.
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” President Gerald Ford
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Originally Posted By Jm11513: Got it in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/527441/1000005253_jpg-3281749.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/527441/1000005255_jpg-3281750.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/527441/1000005256_jpg-3281751.JPG View Quote Not a fan of how it looks mounted on a MP5. |
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Put 120 rounds through it. No complaints thus far
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I got to play with mine some more today. It fit well on about a dozen different host. Still a tad tight on the some of the Hansohn adapters but I attribute that to some of the carbon buildup on them. Concentricity with my R9's and my Lithium were good. Didn't get a chance to try it with my Bushwackers, my R45 or any of the Rex stuff but I see no reason why it wouldn't work well. I like it enough that I'll probably pick up another sometime down the road.
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Originally Posted By networkguru: Im neither pro or con about it on my AP5. I would prefer it closer/tighter to handguard but prefer rock solid mounting more. I had a piece of some flashing or something get into the threads and it started to lock up the threads. I had to carefully remove the nut and clean the threads. I was concerned for a minute. One other thing I noticed is the supressor will rotate a little due to the larger slots in the nut. (or whatever its called). You can tighten the supressor more. Im not concerned per se just making note of it. https://i.postimg.cc/cL8Y7Ymt/IMG-3030.jpg View Quote Just curious what advantage does this have over a standard 3 lug mount? I run a couple different 3 lug mounts and have yet to have any issues. |
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Originally Posted By arjohnson: Just curious what advantage does this have over a standard 3 lug mount? I run a couple different 3 lug mounts and have yet to have any issues. View Quote It's more secure, doesn't use springs, and for my specific case, lets me use tri lug with the specific handguard i prefer |
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Originally Posted By arjohnson: Just curious what advantage does this have over a standard 3 lug mount? I run a couple different 3 lug mounts and have yet to have any issues. View Quote Most 3 lug mounts use springs to keep tension on the connection. insert muzzle device into suppressor, push to compress spring and twist to lock lugs. The nature of this spring loaded tension is a concern for some. The bixler type completely removes any chance of supressor movement because there is no spring. The nut is loosened enough so the muzzle can be inserted than twisted into the lug slots. Then the suppressor is twisted to tighten down the suppressor against the muzzle lugs. This makes it very secure with little chance of any movement. Its nowhere near as fast to install or remove though. And some dont like the external locking nut. It could be made the same diameter as the HUB diameter. |
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Originally Posted By networkguru: Most 3 lug mounts use springs to keep tension on the connection. insert muzzle device into suppressor, push to compress spring and twist to lock lugs. The nature of this spring loaded tension is a concern for some. The bixler type completely removes any chance of supressor movement because there is no spring. The nut is loosened enough so the muzzle can be inserted than twisted into the lug slots. Then the suppressor is twisted to tighten down the suppressor against the muzzle lugs. This makes it very secure with little chance of any movement. Its nowhere near as fast to install or remove though. And some dont like the external locking nut. It could be made the same diameter as the HUB diameter. View Quote Thanks for the explanation. Now, is there a known issue with 3 lug failures due to the spring? If so I’ve never seen any. My 3 lugs have a little movement but nothing that ever caused any issues. It seems the way that mounts that it’s something than can come loose, or am I wrong about that? |
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Originally Posted By arjohnson: Thanks for the explanation. Now, is there a known issue with 3 lug failures due to the spring? If so I’ve never seen any. My 3 lugs have a little movement but nothing that ever caused any issues. It seems the way that mounts that it’s something than can come loose, or am I wrong about that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By arjohnson: Originally Posted By networkguru: Most 3 lug mounts use springs to keep tension on the connection. insert muzzle device into suppressor, push to compress spring and twist to lock lugs. The nature of this spring loaded tension is a concern for some. The bixler type completely removes any chance of supressor movement because there is no spring. The nut is loosened enough so the muzzle can be inserted than twisted into the lug slots. Then the suppressor is twisted to tighten down the suppressor against the muzzle lugs. This makes it very secure with little chance of any movement. Its nowhere near as fast to install or remove though. And some dont like the external locking nut. It could be made the same diameter as the HUB diameter. Thanks for the explanation. Now, is there a known issue with 3 lug failures due to the spring? If so I’ve never seen any. My 3 lugs have a little movement but nothing that ever caused any issues. It seems the way that mounts that it’s something than can come loose, or am I wrong about that? Im new to 3 lug and needed to get a mount adapter for my YHM R9. It just so happened that I found this thread and after reading about the different mechanisms some time ago and I chose to go with a bixler type. @amphibian is 1000x more experienced with these types of mounts and maybe he has some thoughts on it. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By networkguru: Im new to 3 lug and needed to get a mount adapter for my YHM R9. It just so happened that I found this thread and after reading about the different mechanisms some time ago and I chose to go with a bixler type. @amphibian is 1000x more experienced with these types of mounts and maybe he has some thoughts on it. ![]() View Quote I have a R9 and a YHM 3lug mount, their 3 lug mount is most solid 3 lug I’ve seen and tried so far. |
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Originally Posted By arjohnson: I have a R9 and a YHM 3lug mount, their 3 lug mount is most solid 3 lug I've seen and tried so far. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By arjohnson: Originally Posted By networkguru: Im new to 3 lug and needed to get a mount adapter for my YHM R9. It just so happened that I found this thread and after reading about the different mechanisms some time ago and I chose to go with a bixler type. @amphibian is 1000x more experienced with these types of mounts and maybe he has some thoughts on it. ![]() I have a R9 and a YHM 3lug mount, their 3 lug mount is most solid 3 lug I've seen and tried so far. For those too lazy to click on the link, here is a copy and paste: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Due to age, both patents are expired. Most manufactures seemed to have gravitated more to the Latka design. Pro's to the Bixler mount:
Con's to the Bixler mount:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I have several spring loaded push / turn 3 lug mounts that also 'work fine'. I have several that don't as well in that alignment was causing POI shifts. I also have some that have fouled up over the years and cleaning them doesn't seem to help. While I've had Bixler mounts that are even older and they are just rock solid with no concerns of fouling up and if made properly, no issues with alignment or even POI shifts depending on the baffle stack used. I also really like how the Bixler mount uses such a small diameter nut that fits under just about every rail in existence. A spring loaded push / turn mount is too fat to fit in these rails: ![]() |
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I have all the details already documented on my site here: https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=553 For those too lazy to click on the link, here is a copy and paste: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Due to age, both patents are expired. Most manufactures seemed to have gravitated more to the Latka design. Pro's to the Bixler mount:
Con's to the Bixler mount:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I have several spring loaded push / turn 3 lug mounts that also 'work fine'. I have several that don't as well in that alignment was causing POI shifts. I also have some that have fouled up over the years and cleaning them doesn't seem to help. While I've had Bixler mounts that are even older and they are just rock solid with no concerns of fouling up and if made properly, no issues with alignment or even POI shifts depending on the baffle stack used. I also really like how the Bixler mount uses such a small diameter nut that fits under just about every rail in existence. A spring loaded push / turn mount is too fat to fit in these rails: https://c3junkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Phase2_75_7WC-1024x702.jpg View Quote I see now, thanks for the detailed explanation. |
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Still patiently waiting for my shipping notification….
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I have all the details already documented on my site here: https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=553 For those too lazy to click on the link, here is a copy and paste: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Due to age, both patents are expired. Most manufactures seemed to have gravitated more to the Latka design. Pro's to the Bixler mount:
Con's to the Bixler mount:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I have several spring loaded push / turn 3 lug mounts that also 'work fine'. I have several that don't as well in that alignment was causing POI shifts. I also have some that have fouled up over the years and cleaning them doesn't seem to help. While I've had Bixler mounts that are even older and they are just rock solid with no concerns of fouling up and if made properly, no issues with alignment or even POI shifts depending on the baffle stack used. I also really like how the Bixler mount uses such a small diameter nut that fits under just about every rail in existence. A spring loaded push / turn mount is too fat to fit in these rails: https://c3junkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Phase2_75_7WC-1024x702.jpg View Quote I'm one of those too lazy to visit your site. What keeps this thing from loosening up? The additional length and non-taper design appears to offer no benefit over direct thread on a Navy style tri lug. |
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Originally Posted By contax_shooter: I'm one of those too lazy to visit your site. What keeps this thing from loosening up? The additional length and non-taper design appears to offer no benefit over direct thread on a Navy style tri lug. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By contax_shooter: Originally Posted By amphibian: I have all the details already documented on my site here: https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=553 For those too lazy to click on the link, here is a copy and paste: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Due to age, both patents are expired. Most manufactures seemed to have gravitated more to the Latka design. Pro's to the Bixler mount:
Con's to the Bixler mount:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I have several spring loaded push / turn 3 lug mounts that also 'work fine'. I have several that don't as well in that alignment was causing POI shifts. I also have some that have fouled up over the years and cleaning them doesn't seem to help. While I've had Bixler mounts that are even older and they are just rock solid with no concerns of fouling up and if made properly, no issues with alignment or even POI shifts depending on the baffle stack used. I also really like how the Bixler mount uses such a small diameter nut that fits under just about every rail in existence. A spring loaded push / turn mount is too fat to fit in these rails: https://c3junkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Phase2_75_7WC-1024x702.jpg I'm one of those too lazy to visit your site. What keeps this thing from loosening up? The additional length and non-taper design appears to offer no benefit over direct thread on a Navy style tri lug. "It is the original taper mount that seems to be all the rage these days. As mentioned in the patent, "the front end 25 of each lug is tapered inwardly to correspond to the angle of the chamfer 33 of the threaded member 30 (Note that the one's from Shaw don't seem to have much of a corresponding chamfer / taper while the original Bixler ones do, regardless, I don't find them coming loose even under full auto fire)." Regarding the additional length, this comes with increased performance with some cans as I posted here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Short-Cash9K-Rad9-review/20-551586/ The Ca$9k sounds like shit with an internal 3 lug mount as the gas doesn't have time to expand like it does with a thread mount which has all the stellar reviews. ![]() |
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This there something like a YouTube video explaining how this bixler system works? I need it explained to me like I'm 12. I know there's no springs in it, but the patent drawing is confusing.
Other than it not taking up blast baffle volume and supposedly being a better lock up, it's long and adds OAL to my already long wolfman. I have a SP5k and I don't want to make it any longer. I may shorten the wolfman to get it closer to when it had a R9 on it (or put the r9 back on it). We have mp5 MG at work that's trilugged with an obsidian 45 and it gets the shit beat out of it. No issues with the standard rugged trilug lockup. I've also noticed this is the only place I've ever seen anyone mention it. Not a single customer has come in and asked me about this. So I'm curious why it's not talked about more. |
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I am curious how well the Bixler design works with the Wolfman vs a tri-lug. If I remember correctly the Dead Air design isn't seated quite as deep in the blast chamber as something like the current SiCo tri-lug design (older one was further back), so maybe there isn't a big difference on that suppressor.
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Got it. I'll have to play later this week. I did a quick fitting, but not liking the looks. It fits tight when tightened down, as it should. But I'm able to still see some threads, which seems, ( not right ). I'll have to look later today or tomorrow.
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