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Posted: 2/14/2021 12:23:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Not only that but Green has SR-15s.
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Posted: 2/14/2021 12:25:29 AM EDT
[#2]
pretty cool if true
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Posted: 2/14/2021 12:28:46 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted: Saw it here on discussion. Can’t remember the thread. No Yes there are other new rifles being introduced. 416 is not gone. |
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Posted: 2/14/2021 11:57:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Would be better.
HK makes the highest quality junk/garbage/stupid shit on Earth. |
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Posted: 2/14/2021 4:32:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Says the guy who has never even seen any thing HK in person, let alone touched or fired one.
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Posted: 2/14/2021 4:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the guy who has never even seen any thing HK in person, let alone touched or fired one. Lol. I’ve been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK.  P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I’d rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. |
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Posted: 2/14/2021 5:07:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Debating the value of a piston upper is one thing. Saying HK makes garbage is an entirely different level of "wtf".
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Posted: 2/14/2021 5:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I’ve been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK. P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I’d rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. |
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Posted: 2/14/2021 11:13:18 PM EDT
[#9]
I mean there are a bunch of comments about the 416 being ditched. Even that one guy who claimed "stolen valor" on mrgunsngear guy said once the seals were ditched the 416.
If I was a DEVGRU guy I would totally buy a nerf gun and make sure I get as much public pictures of me using it out there. Then watch everyone talk about how the seals are getting brand new nerf guns. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:09:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean there are a bunch of comments about the 416 being ditched. Even that one guy who claimed "stolen valor" on mrgunsngear guy said once the seals were ditched the 416. If I was a DEVGRU guy I would totally buy a nerf gun and make sure I get as much public pictures of me using it out there. Then watch everyone talk about how the seals are getting brand new nerf guns. This idea has potential. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:21:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This idea has potential. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mean there are a bunch of comments about the 416 being ditched. Even that one guy who claimed "stolen valor" on mrgunsngear guy said once the seals were ditched the 416. If I was a DEVGRU guy I would totally buy a nerf gun and make sure I get as much public pictures of me using it out there. Then watch everyone talk about how the seals are getting brand new nerf guns. This idea has potential. Things like that happen. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:54:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Things like that happen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mean there are a bunch of comments about the 416 being ditched. Even that one guy who claimed "stolen valor" on mrgunsngear guy said once the seals were ditched the 416. If I was a DEVGRU guy I would totally buy a nerf gun and make sure I get as much public pictures of me using it out there. Then watch everyone talk about how the seals are getting brand new nerf guns. This idea has potential. Things like that happen. I figured he was trying to mess with me and see if he could start a rumour, or he thought he was telling the truth but had no idea what he was talking about, or he did indeed have some super secret Glock ar prototype. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 11:37:03 AM EDT
[#13]
Why did a topic about the 416 get moved to Rock River's industry section?
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Posted: 2/15/2021 3:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did a topic about the 416 get moved to Rock River's industry section? The move topic toggle can be a bit finicky  @Forest |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 3:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The move topic toggle can be a bit finicky @Forest Indeed this is weird I had selected General Discussion. I'm hoping the local Mod can move it to GD for me since it's in their playground now. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 4:31:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Hahahahaha well that was weird.
Does this mean 416s were replaced with RRA guns  ?
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Posted: 2/15/2021 8:10:48 PM EDT
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Yes. The HK 416 has been replaced by a Noveske at the Command.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 9:11:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I’ve been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK. P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I’d rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Says the guy who has never even seen any thing HK in person, let alone touched or fired one. Lol. I’ve been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK. P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I’d rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. I didn't know the Marshals had 416s because CBP certainly doesn't, not even BORTAC in El Paso. They're rocking the new BCM uppers |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 10:32:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I've been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK. P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I'd rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. That CBP UMP was crap, but you're pretty off base otherwise. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 7:16:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. The HK 416 has been replaced by a Noveske at the Command. Details about why? |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 7:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't know the Marshals had 416s because CBP certainly doesn't, not even BORTAC in El Paso. They're rocking the new BCM uppers I just went to a school with a CPB guy and he was rocking a US Property Marked M4A1 with a 11.5 A2 upper. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:02:27 PM EDT
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SOF is always looking for and trying out the "next best thing". They have the budget for it. They also have just about whatever they want in their arms rooms and will go out on missions with whatever gun best suits whatever they're doing at the time.
If anything though, the HK416 has only gotten more mainstream in military service; take the M27 or the success the 416 A5 has experienced in Europe. Arfcom just has an irrational hate for all things HK and piston ARs in general. Most here have never even seen a 416 in real life, much less have trigger time with one. They just parrot internet blabber they see that confirms their bias. The 416 isn't junk; DI guns from good manufacturers aren't junk either. It's all just silly. 
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:06:12 PM EDT
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Lol, I can tell this thread went through GD before it landed here.
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Details about why? Modern materials science was incorporated into the internal piston AR, thus negating the need to have an expensive and heavy external piston operated rifle to have the longevity they desired. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SOF is always looking for and trying out the "next best thing". This ^^^ it’s called development group for a reason. They are always trying out stuff to see if it’s viable. If it works and works well it might be fielded. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 6:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I’ve been around plenty of HK. US Marshals and the CBP down here in South TX have a few things HK. P2000, P30, UMP, 416. Fuck all that. I’d rather have a Glock 17 and a regular AR. AZ as well |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 7:01:53 PM EDT
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This thread seems familiar...
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Posted: 2/18/2021 9:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, I can tell this thread went through GD before it landed here. Hahaha! Well said... |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 12:20:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Can't give public details. But it is true.
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Posted: 2/18/2021 1:12:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't give public details. But it is true. True as in EVERY single squadron is no longer using them, or true as in some squadrons are testing something else? |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 1:34:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just went to a school with a CPB guy and he was rocking a US Property Marked M4A1 with a 11.5 A2 upper. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I didn't know the Marshals had 416s because CBP certainly doesn't, not even BORTAC in El Paso. They're rocking the new BCM uppers I just went to a school with a CPB guy and he was rocking a US Property Marked M4A1 with a 11.5 A2 upper. Umm I have never seen a 11.5 A2 upper in USBP at least, even with the OFO guys. Everything I've seen have been the traditional 14.5 style uppers but those are being phased out for the new BCM uppers in 11.5/14.5 depending on what you do. But CBP is a big organization and I'm limited to USBP stuff, maybe AMO has some weird stuff for their helo guys |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 1:36:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, I can tell this thread went through GD before it landed here. It even went through the Rock River industry forum for some reason haha |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 11:57:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AZ as well That said, his statement wasn't super accurate. |
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