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Posted: 6/14/2013 4:44:14 PM EST
I finally put my thoughts about gripping the pistol into an article.
The proper grip for any handgun should accomplish several objectives:
[1]Maximize our hand friction on the handgun. The way we prevent the handgun from moving around in our hand(s) is simply via friction. Therefore, the more hand surface we have in contact with the gun, the more friction we can achieve. [2]Minimize the gun’s motion during recoil by stabilizing the supporting joints, principally the wrists, when the gun fires. [3]Reduce the distance between the line of the handgun’s bore and our hands to the smallest amount possible. This diminishes the rotational torque generated by the handgun upon firing. After establishing the appropriate grip, a series of index points can be used to feel when the grip has been properly achieved. Especially in defensive encounters, there is no time for visually checking whether the proper grip is in place. Having a set of index points allows a shooter to establish a proper firing grip in the holster and during the drawstroke, knowing by feel that the grip is as it should be. Link to full article 
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:15:05 PM EST
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Excellent pic! That's the exact grip I use/teach.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:23:47 PM EST
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Read the article. Good stuff. Very well explained. The site popped 6 ads and a survey, but the article was worth it.
While this is the grip that I use, teach, and believe in, I never could identify checkpoints that would prove the grip was being executed right. I love it, and will employ these tips. Great work.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 8:28:04 PM EST
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Very well-presented article, look forward to seeing you again at another local event.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 10:45:25 PM EST
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That's the grip I use. On Glocks I like to have the side of my support thumb in the depression around the take down lever and on Berettas I like to have it touching the take down lever. Sometimes I use these are reference points if I'm showing someone a pistol grip.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 7:40:21 AM EST
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Same grip I use. Except my non firing hand thumb stays against my hand. Any reason I shouldnt be doing that?
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Posted: 6/15/2013 8:41:11 AM EST
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Same grip I use. Except my non firing hand thumb stays against my hand. Any reason I shouldnt be doing that? Yes. Less support on the weapon this way, but if your grip works for you...... |
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Posted: 6/15/2013 3:53:41 PM EST
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I finally put my thoughts about gripping the pistol into an article. The proper grip for any handgun should accomplish several objectives:
[1]Maximize our hand friction on the handgun. The way we prevent the handgun from moving around in our hand(s) is simply via friction. Therefore, the more hand surface we have in contact with the gun, the more friction we can achieve. [2]Minimize the gun’s motion during recoil by stabilizing the supporting joints, principally the wrists, when the gun fires. [3]Reduce the distance between the line of the handgun’s bore and our hands to the smallest amount possible. This diminishes the rotational torque generated by the handgun upon firing. After establishing the appropriate grip, a series of index points can be used to feel when the grip has been properly achieved. Especially in defensive encounters, there is no time for visually checking whether the proper grip is in place. Having a set of index points allows a shooter to establish a proper firing grip in the holster and during the drawstroke, knowing by feel that the grip is as it should be. Link to full article <a href="http://s150.photobucket.com/user/HeadHunter_album/media/Training/99grippaint_zps11da291c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s91/HeadHunter_album/Training/99grippaint_zps11da291c.jpg</a> Thoughts: 1 - wow, you have some long ass thumbs (or I have short ones) 
2 - looks like your weak hand thumb is on the slide, do you really have it there? 3 - shooting with my strong hand thumb on top of my weak hand vs on the grip (my weak hand thumb typically covers / overlaps my strong hand thumb on the grip) makes my grip feel less secure vs more, AND my sights don't line up without rotating my wrist about 2-3 degrees to the right which feels unnatural. I'll have to try this at the range and work on it, but it feels awkward and unnatural. Could it be because my thumbs actually _are_ too short for this grip? |
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:20:00 PM EST
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Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver?
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Posted: 6/17/2013 3:28:20 AM EST
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Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? That's coming this week. |
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Posted: 6/17/2013 3:36:54 AM EST
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1 - wow, you have some long ass thumbs (or I have short ones)
2 - looks like your weak hand thumb is on the slide, do you really have it there? 3 - shooting with my strong hand thumb on top of my weak hand vs on the grip (my weak hand thumb typically covers / overlaps my strong hand thumb on the grip) makes my grip feel less secure vs more, AND my sights don't line up without rotating my wrist about 2-3 degrees to the right which feels unnatural.
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Posted: 6/17/2013 4:45:39 AM EST
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Nice job!
Great pic, simple but effective. USSA-1 |
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Posted: 6/17/2013 4:48:59 AM EST
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Quoted: Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials.  |
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Posted: 6/17/2013 7:54:58 AM EST
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Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.
Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2ujtt78.jpg Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it. |
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Posted: 6/17/2013 8:40:38 AM EST
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Because of the gas jetting / cutting effect.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1201038490 I believe the incident the guy in the video was referring to with the S&W 460 is what resulted in this hideous mess:  Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2ujtt78.jpg Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it. |
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Posted: 6/17/2013 12:28:22 PM EST
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Good stuff...and damn that thumb shot looks like it hurt!!!
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Posted: 6/17/2013 7:15:16 PM EST
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Quoted:Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it.
The picture is a good example. A guy I shoot with had to make a trip to the ER years ago when his .357 gas cut him. It wasn't as bad as that pic but he definitely needed stitches to close it up. |
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Posted: 6/19/2013 4:54:36 PM EST
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great video of the proper grip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZDttBfock
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Posted: 6/20/2013 10:51:28 AM EST
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Because of the gas jetting / cutting effect. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1201038490 I believe the incident the guy in the video was referring to with the S&W 460 is what resulted in this hideous mess: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee82/kaizerandkitty/Thumb6.jpg?t=1246170771 Quoted:
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Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.
Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2ujtt78.jpg Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it. OK, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the graphic reminder. Picture's worth 1000 words, and all that. I remember a former Atlanta Police chief doing that to himself. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=35&t=314953 ETA: hickok45 did a how not to shoot a revolver video. He used a paper target as a substitute for a stray finger. Pretty funny to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBAcz16GvU |
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Posted: 6/20/2013 4:32:08 PM EST
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Because of the gas jetting / cutting effect. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1201038490 I believe the incident the guy in the video was referring to with the S&W 460 is what resulted in this hideous mess: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee82/kaizerandkitty/Thumb6.jpg?t=1246170771 Quoted:
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Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.
Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2ujtt78.jpg Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it. OK, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the graphic reminder. Picture's worth 1000 words, and all that. I remember a former Atlanta Police chief doing that to himself. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=35&t=314953 ETA: hickok45 did a how not to shoot a revolver video. He used a paper target as a substitute for a stray finger. Pretty funny to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBAcz16GvU Didn't he hold a hotdog or something up beside it too? Kinda remember that video and thought he blasted a weenie or something |
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Posted: 6/20/2013 5:19:41 PM EST
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Because of the gas jetting / cutting effect. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1201038490 I believe the incident the guy in the video was referring to with the S&W 460 is what resulted in this hideous mess: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee82/kaizerandkitty/Thumb6.jpg?t=1246170771 Quoted:
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Good pic showing differences between semi auto versus revolver grip so as to keep those thumbs away from hot gases from forcing cone area.
Anybody have one of these pictograms for a small frame revolver? NRA puts out excellent training materials. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2ujtt78.jpg Why the crossed thumbs on a revolver? Keep 'em away from the gap between the cylinder and barrel? I only have one revolver, and hardly ever shoot it. OK, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the graphic reminder. Picture's worth 1000 words, and all that. I remember a former Atlanta Police chief doing that to himself. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=35&t=314953 ETA: hickok45 did a how not to shoot a revolver video. He used a paper target as a substitute for a stray finger. Pretty funny to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBAcz16GvU Didn't he hold a hotdog or something up beside it too? Kinda remember that video and thought he blasted a weenie or something Was a piece of paper target rolled up. Blew it in half. Gone. Ka-Pow. |
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