Mag Blocks to comply with SAFE?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Mag Blocks to comply with SAFE?

Posted: 3/29/2013 4:15:54 AM EDT

I have friends in NY that are asking if a mag block would be acceptable to comply with the new SAFE law.

http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits/ar15-magblocks/colt-usgi-10-20-block.html

The law is a little fuzzy at best, will a mag block be sufficient to comply?

Regards,
Dan

Posted: 3/29/2013 4:19:48 AM EDT

[#1]

Readily convertible to High Capacity. Unless the floor plate is permanently attached I would guess its a no go.

Posted: 3/29/2013 4:21:25 AM EDT

[#2]

Yeah, you would need to rivit, epoxy, etc. the floor plate too. I purchased a couple for testing and they work as advertised. I am not permanently fucking up any mags till the last possible moment.

Posted: 3/29/2013 5:29:59 AM EDT

[#3]

Crazy thing is that technically you can whip out a 100/75 round drum or a 20/30/40 round mag at the range provided its modified. It still will not alleviate the fear response from those unaware. It seems public fear will remain since visually there is no difference or identifying marks. I'm sure public RSO's are looking forward to this.

Posted: 3/29/2013 5:30:17 AM EDT

[#4]

No one knows. The state has not provided any instructions or standards explaining what constitutes an acceptable/permanent magazine modification.

Posted: 3/29/2013 5:37:49 AM EDT

[#5]

The instructions should be interesting as they would have to account for both poly and steel magazine bodies. Not so simple.

Posted: 3/29/2013 5:55:03 AM EDT

[#6]

I do plan on sacrificing some Israeli thermolds to the epoxy gods for range use. But the rest of my mags are going to stay unmolested till the last possible moment

Posted: 3/29/2013 6:38:17 AM EDT

[#7]

I've got a bunch of blocks. Epoxy should be sufficient.

Also, the law has a "dumbass defense" (as Aimless referred to it once).

S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF  A  LARGE  CAPACITY  AMMUNITION  FEEDING
 DEVICE.
 IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI
 TY  AMMUNITION  FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
 NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
 LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF  THE  CHAPTER
 OF  THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
 A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED  TO  ACCEPT,
 MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
 AN  INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT SUCH DEVICE IS OF SUCH
 A CHARACTER THAT IT MAY LAWFULLY BE  POSSESSED  AND  WHO  SURRENDERS  OR
 LAWFULLY DISPOSES OF SUCH DEVICE WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF BEING NOTIFIED BY
 LAW  ENFORCEMENT  OR  COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS THAT SUCH POSSESSION IS
 UNLAWFUL SHALL NOT BE GUILTY OF THIS OFFENSE. IT SHALL BE  A  REBUTTABLE
 PRESUMPTION  THAT  SUCH PERSON KNOWS THAT SUCH LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION
 FEEDING DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED  IF  HE  OR  SHE  HAS  BEEN
 CONTACTED  BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS AND INFORMED
 THAT SUCH DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED.
 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE IS A
 CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.

Posted: 3/29/2013 6:38:51 AM EDT

[#8]

They should stay unmolested forever, we will win in court.

Posted: 3/29/2013 6:48:41 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

They should stay unmolested forever, we will win in court.

If we don't get an injunction, the prohibition on 10+ prebans will go into effect well before the case is finally decided by SCOTUS.

Posted: 3/29/2013 7:05:30 AM EDT

[#10]

It will be if you can pemanently secure the baseplate. I ordered some various blocks from that company for differeent mags to experiment with. I have mags that were beat up and prone to misfead, double feed, jam etc. So they went to the cause of blocking them and trying to disassemble them. It depends on the mag.. With those ar-15 mag blocks, I epoxied the spring to the block, then applied epoxy to the bottom of the block and replaced the floorplate. I let it cure for 24 hours and that suckers not coming apart.

So far I have sucessfully blocked permanantly, AR-15 mags both 20 and 30 round, AK-47 mag 30 round, and FAL mag 20 round. For the FAL mag, I used red loctite on the baseplate because the epoxy wouldn't hold. With the locktite, she's solid.

Posted: 3/29/2013 7:36:16 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

I've got a bunch of blocks. Epoxy should be sufficient.

Also, the law has a "dumbass defense" (as Aimless referred to it once).

S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF  A  LARGE  CAPACITY  AMMUNITION  FEEDING  DEVICE.

 IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI
 TY  AMMUNITION  FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
 NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
 LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF  THE  CHAPTER
 OF  THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
 A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED  TO  ACCEPT,
 MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.

Considering it's written in unintelligible gibberish no one even knows WTF this section of the statute even means.

From the NYSRPA district court complaint filed on 03-21-2013:

Page 40:

156. New § 256.36 appears to prohibit some type of possession of large capacity

ammunition feeding devices. Because the language of § 256.36 does not constitute an intelligible

sentence, it does not provide notice of the conduct ostensibly prohibited and is unconstitutionally

vague.

Posted: 3/29/2013 7:40:35 AM EDT

[#12]

This is totally illegal for noncompliance and civil disobedience.

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