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Posted: 3/8/2022 11:48:11 PM EDT
IIRC, the government in Ukraine was handing out around 18,000 AKs to people to fight back. What brand AKs are they? Also, are they 5.45mm or 7.62mm?
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AKMs, Krinks, lots of triangle folders. Generic Eastern Block old school Polish and Romanian. 74s with Russian F/Hs.
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[#3]
Lots of 74s and some Krinks. There's also been some western kit in the hands of their SF elements: Sig MCXs, various ARs, Bullpups, and bolt guns.
Not to mention an increasing number of AK12s pulled off whacked Russians. Slava Ukraini! |
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Seen some AK47 under folders in recent pics. Seen so many AK74s.
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Quoted: IIRC, the government in Ukraine was handing out around 18,000 AKs to people to fight back. What brand AKs are they? Also, are they 5.45mm or 7.62mm? View Quote Brand: Soviet Union AKM, AKMS, AK-74, AKS-74, AKS74u, RPK, RPK-74. 7.62x39 5.45x39 |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/bubbu-2307377.jpg I've seen more Krinks that I'd thought I'd see in pictures. View Quote Otherwise, the old stockpiles being broken out to civis also include classic AK-74's and AKS-74's |
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The Ukraines also use a licensed copy of the iwi tavor built by Fort
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/bubbu-2307377.jpg I've seen more Krinks that I'd thought I'd see in pictures. View Quote https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44653/captured-ak-12-rifles-appear-to-be-the-trophy-weapon-of-choice-for-ukrainian-officials |
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[#10]
I see lots of AK-74, AKS-74 and more of the short AKS-74U than I would expect (like the pic above).
I love my AKS-74U but it would not be my go to war rifle. It is handy and looks cool but the sights suck and maybe the .mil ammo is better but I get a huge fireball every 10th round or so with the Wolf made in the Luhansk factory. |
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Saw a random picture of those Crazy Malyuk bull pup AK things right before
The invasion |
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Quoted: I see lots of AK-74, AKS-74 and more of the short AKS-74U than I would expect (like the pic above). I love my AKS-74U but it would not be my go to war rifle. It is handy and looks cool but the sights suck and maybe the .mil ammo is better but I get a huge fireball every 10th round or so with the Wolf made in the Luhansk factory. View Quote I blind everyone around me every round with my AKSU. I shoot the RAS branded ammo. Even get a fireball out of my 8" long can when it's mounted. Seeing AKSUs in the wild makes me happy. It is probably my go to gun. I have a little red dot mounted on top too. Gen 2 dust cover so the irons are decent and the red dot is a game changer. |
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It is really scary they are giving assault weapons to "ordinary citizens". Don't they know this will endanger the children?
All they need is a shot gun. Two blasts in the air the Russians will run. ![]() Biden: Buy a shotgun, not an AR-15 |
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Quoted: Lots of 74s and some Krinks. There's also been some western kit in the hands of their SF elements: Sig MCXs, various ARs, Bullpups, and bolt guns. Not to mention an increasing number of AK12s pulled off whacked Russians. Slava Ukraini! View Quote Ukraine as a few domestic producers of ARs, Mayak and Zbroyar are two off the top of my head. .223 and 5.56 ammunition is manufactured in Ukraine as well. The Mayak MZ-15 also comes in 5.45. Nextdoor in Poland, Radom has a couple of ARs, the PAC-15, in their product lineup. Germany is also next to Ukraine, and we all know what comes from there. ![]() |
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Quoted: Ukraine as a few domestic producers of ARs, Mayak and Zbroyar are two off the top of my head. .223 and 5.56 ammunition is manufactured in Ukraine as well. The Mayak MZ-15 also comes in 5.45. Nextdoor in Poland, Radom has a couple of ARs, the PAC-15, in their product lineup. Germany is also next to Ukraine, and we all know what comes from there. ![]() View Quote Yep- all kinds of German goodness. ?? |
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After Ukraine loses, I wonder if we will be able to get any of these sent over as kits. It would be cool to have another golden era of parts kits.
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Quoted: After Ukraine loses, I wonder if we will be able to get any of these sent over as kits. It would be cool to have another golden era of parts kits. View Quote Maybe if Ukraine wins and upgrades to nato weapons they might but I highly doubt it. I guess it's possible if the right importer or business man gets involved but I assume they will hang on to them for a while. Russia winning pretty much guarantees they will never be imported unless they send them to another country for 20 years first. |
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Quoted: Saw a random picture of those Crazy Malyuk bull pup AK things right before The invasion View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Saw a random picture of those Crazy Malyuk bull pup AK things right before The invasion Looks like this guy captured his AK12 using a Malyuk https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44687/ukraines-indigenous-malyuk-bullpup-rifle-is-the-weapon-of-choice-for-its-special-operators |
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Quoted: Maybe if Ukraine wins and upgrades to nato weapons they might but I highly doubt it. I guess it's possible if the right importer or business man gets involved but I assume they will hang on to them for a while. Russia winning pretty much guarantees they will never be imported unless they send them to another country for 20 years first. View Quote Well, there is a mathematical certainty that Ukraine loses, but that doesn't mean the first part wont happen. What is likely to occur, is whatever rump-state comes out of what was once the Ukraine (probably some portion of the west of the country) will probably end up "upgrading" to western rifles at some point. I think you are correct that that would allow us a decent chance at some parts kits. The other factor might be what kind of relations we have with whatever new states come out of the east. You are probably correct, that they won't be good... but who knows. |
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Seen a few interesting rifles. One was a short clip on Newsmax of a guy carrying an SVT-40. And I saw a photo on another forum of a guy with a Ruger American Predator. I assume chambered in .308 Winchester.
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Quoted: PS I want a Krinkov, period. Like I WANT. View Quote It is fascinating, from a collector perspective, to see how many Krinkovs are still being issued by both of those countries. There was a photo I saw the other day of the left side of a Krinkov, it might have been some of the other photos from the same photo op shown above, anyways, my curiosity led me to look at the trunnion markings/serial number and strangely enough, it was blacked out via photo editing. ![]() |
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Quoted: lol My thoughts anyways - exactly. Celebrities (theirs, Ukrainian) seem to have gotten largely Krinks (look at the picture of the house members - or was it senators I forget - they all had Krinks). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/FMh2ORZWQAQmmUI-2310905.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/come-again-ukrainian-parliament-member-t-2310907.jpg and even some kids https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/f4ypojjbgwj81-2310908.jpg View Quote Man, I would give anything for one of those as a kit. ![]() |
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Quoted: Man, I would give anything for one of those as a kit. ![]() View Quote Yes, same x1000 Listen, I am going to be content with PSA making one by the end of 2022 or even into 2023. Don't care. I just really want own the concept idea of it - even if not original, I'll survive. Will buy some original Russian furniture and stuff and call it a day. Until then, whatever I can find it'll make do |
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Quoted: ... you mean for less than 5kUSD (five thousand dollars). Yes, same x1000 Listen, I am going to be content with PSA making one by the end of 2022 or even into 2023. Don't care. I just really want own the concept idea of it - even if not original, I'll survive. Will buy some original Russian furniture and stuff and call it a day. Until then, whatever I can find it'll make do View Quote I hear you. 5k for a Tula parts kit is ridiculous no matter how nostalgic it might be. You can thank Gbroker for that. 5k + taxes + fees + barrel + receiver + builder cost + shipping multiple times = You are looking at 7k. ![]() Objectively, that is ridiculous, and that is coming from someone who would happily eat ramen noodles to justify it. |
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[#30]
the krink is on my to buy list, similar to the one pictured above
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[#33]
There is zero chance we see any surplus items coming out of Ukraine. If Russia takes over, sanctions won’t allow and if Ukraine manages to hold out, they will want to play nice with the Europe (who doesn’t like that sort of thing).
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[#34]
neighboring countries may provide AKs, but I'm sure Ukraine is screwed
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[#35]
Hell, some russian forces are rolling with Mosin Nagant sniper rifles in Ukraine.
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[#36]
I ended up buying an Arsenal Krink - by the way.
It's all the fault of this war (and of ARFCOM) |
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Quoted: lol My thoughts anyways - exactly. Celebrities (theirs, Ukrainian) seem to have gotten largely Krinks (look at the picture of the house members - or was it senators I forget - they all had Krinks). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/FMh2ORZWQAQmmUI-2310905.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/come-again-ukrainian-parliament-member-t-2310907.jpg and even some kids https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/f4ypojjbgwj81-2310908.jpg View Quote The last picture, that girl in the middle. She is the only one with a look of someone who has the willingness to kill. |
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Quoted: lol My thoughts anyways - exactly. Celebrities (theirs, Ukrainian) seem to have gotten largely Krinks (look at the picture of the house members - or was it senators I forget - they all had Krinks). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/FMh2ORZWQAQmmUI-2310905.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/come-again-ukrainian-parliament-member-t-2310907.jpg and even some kids https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/f4ypojjbgwj81-2310908.jpg View Quote Wouldn't the Russians laugh at them and just take them out with artillery or mortars? |
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So they issued a bunch of military grade firearms to a bunch of civilians who some proceeded to go to the front and get themselves killed. So now the propaganda machine can label their corpses as “Russian atrocities”, “War crimes”, and (my favorite) “Genocide”. As Harry Callahan would say… Marvelous.
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