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There’s no evidence he molested 16 year old girls. There are plenty of reports that he took liberties with beauty pageant contestants, but no recorded evidence beyond a statement given in private that essentially said he could do whatever and they just let him, so there’s that. There is a lot of evidence of him cheating on his wives. A lot. Which is a fairly decent indicator of his level of integrity and honesty. But what’s important there is that people showed that wasn’t something they valued. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It’s a World Class, shitty analogy. Trump didn’t MolestMentor any 16 year old girls. If he had, it would have finished him. Other than that, the degenerate perverts here, have forced me to agree with Naamah. They should be throughly ashamed of themselves. Even Thomas Jefferson wasn’t infallible. Absolute honesty and integrity would be a negative attribute for a President. One needs to be a wheeler, dealer and schemer to navigate those treacherous waters. Sad, but true. |
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It was obvious that they were fucking, and the outrage shown by some in this thread is hilarious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is she his girlfriend? Does anyone know? Watching some of those videos it seems like she might be? If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV |
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Quoted: You’re all sorts of confused and your argument is extremely childish. Politics is By Definition a choice between the lesser of two evils. There will never be a perfect politician to vote for. Even Thomas Jefferson wasn’t infallible. Absolute honesty and integrity would be a negative attribute for a President. One needs to be a wheeler, dealer and schemer to navigate those treacherous waters. Sad, but true. View Quote It is the way of the world. |
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Quoted: Yeah, I could be wrong, but I watched other vids and it seems like she is his girlfriend and has been for a while. If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV View Quote |
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Quoted: Yeah, I could be wrong, but I watched other vids and it seems like she is his girlfriend and has been for a while. If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV View Quote It's everything else. |
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Yeah, I could be wrong, but I watched other vids and it seems like she is his girlfriend and has been for a while. If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is she his girlfriend? Does anyone know? Watching some of those videos it seems like she might be? If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV Yes, it’s been common throughout world history. However, it is considered bad form, in our current culture. At the very least, he should face ridicule and derision. |
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. I mean if I am Shemar I doubt I am liking Butler's references to BBC but then maybe Shemar should have stuck it in Jade since he has been plagued by rumors he is gay his entire career. View Quote Holy crap his voice was like 3 octave higher and he seemed really giggly and light in the loafers |
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A great many of you missed the main point, and it’s an important one: “You aren’t supposed to molest the children you mentor”. Yes, it’s been common throughout world history. However, it is considered bad form, in our current culture. At the very least, he should face ridicule and derision. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is she his girlfriend? Does anyone know? Watching some of those videos it seems like she might be? If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV Yes, it’s been common throughout world history. However, it is considered bad form, in our current culture. At the very least, he should face ridicule and derision. Further, from a leadership perspective it's also bad form to sleep with your employees. |
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Do you have proof that he was molesting a child? The video was of two consenting adults. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: A great many of you missed the main point, and it’s an important one: “You aren’t supposed to molest the children you mentor”. Yes, it’s been common throughout world history. However, it is considered bad form, in our current culture. At the very least, he should face ridicule and derision. She's his employee. She's the daughter of a friend. If you don't see the ethical issues with what's happening, plus just the creepy weird things he's saying then I don't know what to tell you. |
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Quoted: Do you have proof that he was molesting a child? The video was of two consenting adults. View Quote Any other sport or group and most would be abhorred (gymnastics, track, music, etc). But because it is the over sexualized world of the “gun bunny”, it’s high fives and atta-boys. All part and parcel when “it” really isn’t about a sport, but a fantasy. |
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So they will fold for a .gov contract but throw Taran under the bus. He has been shooting Trijicon since the 90's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: It was removed years ago because it got out that the government was buying equipment with scripture on it. To keep from losing mil contracts the stamped script was removed. I'd love to get one. #jesusgun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon_biblical_verses_controversy "Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, said the practice of including the references was started in 1981 by the company's founder, devout Christian Glyn Bindon, who died in a 2003 plane crash." Lots of people live their lives by beliefs they don't share with anyone else. |
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Besides all the other creepy shit in this post you're now making it ONLY about the age difference and ignoring everything else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I feel like creepy is the wrong word. "Trashy Pervert" seems to fit it much better. Not because of the age differential, I see nothing wrong with 18 and 50. If some rich, intelligent, handsome, 50 year old man with a good body somehow met my 16 year old daughter, and they wanted to get married. Then, after a through background check, including "Why is he single?!?! And How did they meet?!?!" I would sign on the dotted line. @15? Hell no. @14? Where is my gun? @13? "Hello, 911, I just shot someone in self defense." But at 16? Where is my pen so I can sign on the dotted line? 18? Are you kidding me? Why is she still asking my permission? Men's sperm are viable well into their 60's-70's, in most cases, and they'll make awesome babies together, as long as he fits all my criteria I wouldn't care. Lots of females with good genetics look about the same from 16 to 29, It's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 16 year old girl and an 18-21 year old woman. As long as they don't drink/smoke/tan, how is a man going to know the difference just by looking at them? It's not like they are 12. Where is my gun...? If it's so "creepy" then why do so many states allow parents to sign off on marriages when kids are bellow 18? Because in the old days (less than 100 years ago) it was a common, and accepted practice. Notice I keep says "with parental consent". Let my girl marry someone like Taran? Hell to the NO!!! I don't care how much money they have or how well they can shoot. The man is a pervert, as are all men to go to strip clubs. Or talk to women like Taran talked to Jade. The fact that she didn't seem very put off by it tells me all I need to know. I'd like to believe my daughter would slap him in the face. And if I do a good job raising her, she would! She said the girl in this case is a thot, and Butters is disgusting. Also, the morality of the man counts quite a bit in the case of her daughter marrying an older man. older Widower of upstanding character and Christian ethos get the nod from her. The result would be kids, a stable home, etc. older Pimps not so much. My grandpa married my grandma when she was 18 and he was 45, they had 5 children. He was busy in his youth fighting in both world wars. |
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Quoted: How many times does it need to be said? He'd been working with her since 16. She's his employee. She's the daughter of a friend. If you don't see the ethical issues with what's happening, plus just the creepy weird things he's saying then I don't know what to tell you. View Quote |
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No, it's not. What people DO in private and public, and also what people SAY in public. but what people say in PRIVATE is meaningless with regard to being a marker for character. how many awful things have you said in private? list them here View Quote |
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Seems like the girl became an adult and it's her decision on what to do with her life, not yours or anyone else that is outraged by this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: How many times does it need to be said? He'd been working with her since 16. She's his employee. She's the daughter of a friend. If you don't see the ethical issues with what's happening, plus just the creepy weird things he's saying then I don't know what to tell you. We're saying the dude is creepy. Which he is. |
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That is not a fair representation of what she has said. She said the girl in this case is a thot, and Butters is disgusting. Also, the morality of the man counts quite a bit in the case of her daughter marrying an older man. older Widower of upstanding character and Christian ethos get the nod from her. The result would be kids, a stable home, etc. older Pimps not so much. My grandpa married my grandma when she was 18 and he was 45, they had 5 children. He was busy in his youth fighting in both world wars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They’re a company who put Bible verses on their optics so not too surprising. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trijicon ended partnership with taran. https://www.instagram.com/p/B7xBDIzhgne/?igshid=1t081iq4dydtc |
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Quoted: Whose outraged? We're saying the dude is creepy. Which he is. View Quote This is so very low on my give a shit meter. I just don't care that some dude (who I never heard of because I don't follow crap in the firearms community) messed around with some girl that dresses like a tramp. Maybe her father should have raised her better so she doesn't dress and act like a meth addicted stripper? Maybe then she would make better decisions. In the very little outrage I have about this, I'll blame the father. The fucking bastard! |
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Does the girl think he's creepy? This is so very low on my give a shit meter. I just don't care that some dude (who I never heard of because I don't follow crap in the firearms community) messed around with some girl that dresses like a tramp. Maybe her father should have raised her better so she doesn't dress and act like a meth addicted stripper? Maybe then she would make better decisions. In the very little outrage I have about this, I'll blame the father. The fucking bastard! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Whose outraged? We're saying the dude is creepy. Which he is. This is so very low on my give a shit meter. I just don't care that some dude (who I never heard of because I don't follow crap in the firearms community) messed around with some girl that dresses like a tramp. Maybe her father should have raised her better so she doesn't dress and act like a meth addicted stripper? Maybe then she would make better decisions. In the very little outrage I have about this, I'll blame the father. The fucking bastard! His behavior, all things considered, is creepy. |
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She's focused on the age difference and ignoring the things most people are actually taking issue with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: I feel like creepy is the wrong word. "Trashy Pervert" seems to fit it much better. Not because of the age differential, I see nothing wrong with 18 and 50. If some rich, intelligent, handsome, 50 year old man with a good body somehow met my 16 year old daughter, and they wanted to get married. Then, after a through background check, including "Why is he single?!?! And How did they meet?!?!" I would sign on the dotted line. @15? Hell no. @14? Where is my gun? @13? "Hello, 911, I just shot someone in self defense." But at 16? Where is my pen so I can sign on the dotted line? 18? Are you kidding me? Why is she still asking my permission? Men's sperm are viable well into their 60's-70's, in most cases, and they'll make awesome babies together, as long as he fits all my criteria I wouldn't care. Lots of females with good genetics look about the same from 16 to 29, It's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 16 year old girl and an 18-21 year old woman. As long as they don't drink/smoke/tan, how is a man going to know the difference just by looking at them? It's not like they are 12. Where is my gun...? If it's so "creepy" then why do so many states allow parents to sign off on marriages when kids are bellow 18? Because in the old days (less than 100 years ago) it was a common, and accepted practice. Notice I keep says "with parental consent". Let my girl marry someone like Taran? Hell to the NO!!! I don't care how much money they have or how well they can shoot. The man is a pervert, as are all men to go to strip clubs. Or talk to women like Taran talked to Jade. The fact that she didn't seem very put off by it tells me all I need to know. I'd like to believe my daughter would slap him in the face. And if I do a good job raising her, she would! She said the girl in this case is a thot, and Butters is disgusting. Also, the morality of the man counts quite a bit in the case of her daughter marrying an older man. older Widower of upstanding character and Christian ethos get the nod from her. The result would be kids, a stable home, etc. older Pimps not so much. My grandpa married my grandma when she was 18 and he was 45, they had 5 children. He was busy in his youth fighting in both world wars. Meaning the girl was no better than T Butters. I think that is why she stated she would let her daughter marry an older man if her daughter wanted to. Her perspective seems to be that girls are naturally attracted to older men and 16 is old enough for a girl to decide to start a family. We are looking at this from a mans perspective. T Butters is fully at fault for taking advantage of the girl while being in a position of authority. Rose is looking at it from a woman's perspective. The girls was as guilty as T Butters, and wanted him on her bread. |
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Ah ok, Taran Butler is a dude! I thought the girl was Taran Butler and I was wondering why everyone was all creeped out!
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Ah ok, Taran Butler is a dude! I thought the girl was Taran Butler and I was wondering why everyone was all creeped out! View Quote https://instagram.com/jadestruck?igshid=13kcz8f9szrex Edit—- Jade Struck struck a deal with an ammo and a custom knife co at Shot. All while TTI lost Jesus Optics. |
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I've read about all of her posts, she said what was done was wrong, but the age difference means nothing and that the girl was into what T Butters was selling. Meaning the girl was no better than T Butters. I think that is why she stated she would let her daughter marry an older man if her daughter wanted to. Her perspective seems to be that girls are naturally attracted to older men and 16 is old enough for a girl to decide to start a family. We are looking at this from a mans perspective. T Butters is fully at fault for taking advantage of the girl while being in a position of authority. Rose is looking at it from a woman's perspective. The girls was as guilty as T Butters, and wanted him on her bread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No, it isn't. He's only doing what men have been doing since the beginning of the human race. Amazing how that happens so our race doesn't go extinct. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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In what world is what people say and do when nobody is watching not part of what character and integrity is? That's literally the definition. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He may very well be a creep and lowlife, but you cannot judge a person's character from WORDS spoken in private. Words in public? Yes. Actions in private AND public, yes. But not words spoken in private. all of us have said terrible things in private that we did not mean seriously. If a camera was on you 24-7, how would what you say change? What you just described is the very definition of character and integrity. That's literally the definition. |
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Yeah, I could be wrong, but I watched other vids and it seems like she is his girlfriend and has been for a while. If some of the shit I have said to my girlfriends were made public... I just need more context to be fully outraged at this point. If he loses a bunch of sponsors and business because someone stole his info and posted it publicly, and that girl is his girlfriend, that isn't something we should be praising. And even if you find it distasteful, there is nothing wrong with him having sex with her. That is solely between them. It's none of our business. They are consenting adults. YMMV View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You’re all sorts of confused and your argument is extremely childish. Politics is By Definition a choice between the lesser of two evils. There will never be a perfect politician to vote for. Even Thomas Jefferson wasn’t infallible. Absolute honesty and integrity would be a negative attribute for a President. One needs to be a wheeler, dealer and schemer to navigate those treacherous waters. Sad, but true. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It’s a World Class, shitty analogy. Trump didn’t MolestMentor any 16 year old girls. If he had, it would have finished him. Other than that, the degenerate perverts here, have forced me to agree with Naamah. They should be throughly ashamed of themselves. Even Thomas Jefferson wasn’t infallible. Absolute honesty and integrity would be a negative attribute for a President. One needs to be a wheeler, dealer and schemer to navigate those treacherous waters. Sad, but true. People place their priorities where they place them. The people who are supporting Taran and saying that what he does/says in private get a pass have shown what they value, and what they don’t. The people who spent their time cheerleading for Trump did the same. It’s ok. It’s just their personal line in the sand. I believe it was krpind in another thread who said something about the depth of the pool they were comfortable with, and how they were all standing in the same pool. |
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