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I believe all these things are legal in KY with a CCW license.
As are chucks, stars, switchblades AOWs and DDs. It's pretty much the wild wild west here. |
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If you are wanting them for personal protection, etc., a small sap would be better then knuckles. A sap is easily concealed and when you hit people with it, it doesn't immediately remove flesh. Bonk a guy in the head a few times with a sap and walk away. The guy isn't ruined but it'll take the fight out of them. That is a quarter on top od the knuckles so you can get an idea of scale on those bad boys. I have tried to buy them several times from my uncle but he won't budge. The big metal club between the knuckles was a tear gas club. that screws apart in the middle so you can load it. It has a firing mechanism that is thumb operated. So a little tap from a sap can be lethal and that is not something I would want to trust one way or the other. Those aren't saps. Those are blackjacks. There is a subtle but important difference. A blackjack usually consists of a round weight on the end of a spring wrapped in leather, often braided which tends to tear up skin. The idea is to concentrate the force in a small spot. This can shatter bones easily. With a sap the weight is flattened and attached to a piece of spring steel and then wrapped in leather. The idea here is to distribute the force to a larger area. That is a sap on top and a blackjack below it. |
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Do polycarbonate (Lexan) knuckles hold up in heavy use? View Quote How often do you plan on using them? This thread cracks me up. I understand the nostalgia on brass nucks but everyone does realize that they are universally treated as a deadly weapon, right? If you're going to go for it you might as well knock holes in the fucker, gun or knife and to be candid a knife can be explained away a hell of a lot easier than brass knuckles....and it's a whole bunch more effective if applied correctly. In any case, as I've said before I've seen men tore up with nothing more than a king bolt, from a wagon tongue. |
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How often do you plan on using them? This thread cracks me up. I understand the nostalgia on brass nucks but everyone does realize that they are universally treated as a deadly weapon, right? If you're going to go for it you might as well knock holes in the fucker, gun or knife and to be candid a knife can be explained away a hell of a lot easier than brass knuckles....and it's a whole bunch more effective if applied correctly. In any case, as I've said before I've seen men tore up with nothing more than a king bolt, from a wagon tongue. View Quote I said heavy, not frequent. |
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Didn't someone post a how to using the Lost Wax Method to cast some Brass Knuckles from melted rifle brass?
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I have my Dad's that he carried on a shit load of combat missions in a UH1-B during Vietnam.
I will never part with them. |
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I just picked up a really nice ebony set of knuckles when I was in PI last moth. My girl was looking for something in her purse and pulled them out. Before I left I asked if I could have them and she said sure she can get more. I'll post a picture when i get home tonight.
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View Quote shit i really really want one of these. does anybody know where they (and not a cheap knock off) can be obtained? |
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Has anyone had any real world "experience" (giving or receiving) with these things? Brass, steel, aluminum, plastic, it doesn't matter. I want a set, I think mostly because I'm not supposed to have them, but I can't imagine that I'd ever carry them. In my mind, they are going to break bones and tear skin open if someone was to get hit in the face or on the head with them. View Quote My friend hit another kid in high school with them. He paid for reconstructive surgery on the other kid for a decade. (Kid pulled a knife on him the previous day.) It was disgusting to watch. The kids face opened up immediately. Flaps of face. They are illegal as fuck to carry, btw. |
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Arkansas, like most states I've lived in, has some bad laws against brass knuckles (5-73-104). That's why long ago I started to collect and carry effective "non-weapons."
Like Maglites. One night a tweaker who was lost just came up to me on my front porch and started punching me in the face. A quick smack upside the head with a 3-D cell Maglite instantly took all the fight out of him. The cops took him away and basically just said "thank you." In a fist fight I would have gotten hurt (or lost!), and if I shot him with the 9mm in my pocket I'd still be dealing with courts. Shooting people is expensive. No matter how much they deserve it. That's why I always carry some sort of tool or equipment that can be also used as a weapon. A tire iron under the seat of my truck is easy to explain. So is the Fiskars machete behind the seat (grouped with a few other tools like little pruning shears). I actually explained to a cop one night how it's not a weapon - I bought it at Home Depot in the garden tool section and how my backyard is such a jungle. Plus I showed him the dirt and streaks on the blade where I had actually used it to chop some branches. It seemed to work. Now when I take my little walks around the neighborhood, I carry a 4-D cell Maglite with a Trilux LED and a few other non-weapon items. So far it's working. |
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Arkansas, like most states I've lived in, has some bad laws against brass knuckles (5-73-104). That's why long ago I started to collect and carry effective "non-weapons." Like Maglites. One night a tweaker who was lost just came up to me on my front porch and started punching me in the face. A quick smack upside the head with a 3-D cell Maglite instantly took all the fight out of him. The cops took him away and basically just said "thank you." In a fist fight I would have gotten hurt (or lost!), and if I shot him with the 9mm in my pocket I'd still be dealing with courts. Shooting people is expensive. No matter how much they deserve it. That's why I always carry some sort of tool or equipment that can be also used as a weapon. A tire iron under the seat of my truck is easy to explain. So is the Fiskars machete behind the seat (grouped with a few other tools like little pruning shears). I actually explained to a cop one night how it's not a weapon - I bought it at Home Depot in the garden tool section and how my backyard is such a jungle. Plus I showed him the dirt and streaks on the blade where I had actually used it to chop some branches. It seemed to work. Now when I take my little walks around the neighborhood, I carry a 4-D cell Maglite with a Trilux LED and a few other non-weapon items. So far it's working. View Quote |
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I just picked up a really nice ebony set of knuckles when I was in PI last moth. My girl was looking for something in her purse and pulled them out. Before I left I asked if I could have them and she said sure she can get more. I'll post a picture when i get home tonight. View Quote |
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View Quote Looks like a hybrid of a USMC type fighting knife that the grip from a LF&C type trench knife has been riveted on |
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The two knuckle beard comb, and the black one I picked up in Prague, CZ and carried in Europe. Attached File
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My great grandfather my dad's grandfather carried a black jack in his back pocket for over 65 years. When my dad was a little kid great grandfather sometimes would take him to the bar in the late 40's early 1950's. One afternoon his was sitting on top of the table watching the girls dance, and apparently blocking some other dunks view.
The drunk got up bitching and came after my great grandfather and 5 seconds later he was out cold lying on the floor. Gramps sat down and went back to drinking as if nothing happened. He was a very tall mean son of a bitch, and I only remember some vague memories of him when I was very little. I have to see of I can find my set of BK I've had since grade school and post a pic maybe tomorrow. |
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Had a set of aluminum ones BACK when I was young ....
I used to carry them in my Levi's back pocket. And YES they do work as advertised ! |
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If you are wanting them for personal protection, etc., a small sap would be better then knuckles. A sap is easily concealed and when you hit people with it, it doesn't immediately remove flesh. Bonk a guy in the head a few times with a sap and walk away. The guy isn't ruined but it'll take the fight out of them. View Quote |
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Go to welding supply shop, tell them you need 1/2"- 3/4" (depending on hand size.) Bar stock for a project. Makes a great fist pack. Also easy to be rid of and not out $.
Have them cut it slightly longer than your hand so you can also use as a pommel. Cheep effective, easy to keep in pocket, and won't fuck your knuckles up. IMO you are not always going to want deadly force, and I have personally witnessed situations were stupid thugs did not get turned around by the sight of a firearm. |
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Carried a pair of Sap Gloves for 10yrs. Don't do the damage that BK do and also don't offend the public.
But they put you down just as hard. Ed |
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Just beat the attacker over the head with your emptied, still hot and smoking handgun.
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How often do you plan on using them? This thread cracks me up. I understand the nostalgia on brass nucks but everyone does realize that they are universally treated as a deadly weapon, right? If you're going to go for it you might as well knock holes in the fucker, gun or knife and to be candid a knife can be explained away a hell of a lot easier than brass knuckles....and it's a whole bunch more effective if applied correctly. In any case, as I've said before I've seen men tore up with nothing more than a king bolt, from a wagon tongue. View Quote Here in NY a king bolt is probably illegal, I'll have to stick to a rolled up newspaper. Back in the 80s I did see a college football player tangle with a local farm boy in a bar. Farm boy had a link from a barn cleaner chain in his pocket and used it as nucks. Ended badly for Joe college. |
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Here is the not beautiful version of a home made set of copper knuckles. Very Crude to what was posted here by a member last years sometime.
Home Made Copper Knuckles Lost Foam Casting Not Brass |
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Never "used" it, but wear it from time to time when appropriate:
http://www.trueswords.com/extreme-black-self-defense-p-4953.html Anyone used one? |
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I always wanted a set when I was younger.
Never did get one. |
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I think this is similar to what I mentioned earlier.
How To Make Brass Knuckles, From Bullet Shells |
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