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OP, if you are seriously looking at doing this check into pulling the body off your Excursion and buying a complete Super Duty body from these guys. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Big-Mikes-Truck-Stuff-DefianceOH/148218061889222 <a href="http://s136.photobucket.com/user/bailey123_album/media/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q176/bailey123_album/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg</a> I was out there Friday and bought a bed for my "new" to me Super Duty and found that for 2,400 I could buy the entire cab, 1,900 for the bed. Under 5,500 for eveything but chassis and firewall. View Quote Won't work. Well, won't be right. |
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OP, if you are seriously looking at doing this check into pulling the body off your Excursion and buying a complete Super Duty body from these guys. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Big-Mikes-Truck-Stuff-DefianceOH/148218061889222 <a href="http://s136.photobucket.com/user/bailey123_album/media/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q176/bailey123_album/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg</a> I was out there Friday and bought a bed for my "new" to me Super Duty and found that for 2,400 I could buy the entire cab, 1,900 for the bed. Under 5,500 for eveything but chassis and firewall. Won't work. Well, won't be right. OP has already stated he is willing to throw a ton of money at something that is already commercially available, most likely at higher cost. I'm just throwing out some other options. |
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Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why not a diesel? I'm just curious, plenty of v10s where I live and at decent prices too. Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? You're joking right? The 5.4 V8 in the Excursion is pathetic. Not to mention slow as hell. 0-60 in the high 12's is even slower than the 7.3 (talking Prius with a flat tire type of acceleration here) 6,100 lbs with a 3.73 7,600 lbs with a 4.10 |
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Why not a diesel? I'm just curious, plenty of v10s where I live and at decent prices too. Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? Have you ever pulled a 40 foot toy hauler? GM 6.0 or ford 6.2 v8 will puke their guts out. Diesel or big ass v10/v8 is the only way to go. Frankly, up any kind of grade or into a headwind you will hate everything but a diesel. |
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4.30 or lower gears will go in plus F350 front and rear springs and airbags. Did you not read it's the same frame and rear axle as a F250 /350? Front axle is a dana 50 with is the same as the front of a 250 until about 2004 or 2005 when the 250 got the same dana 60 as a 350 View Quote It isn't just the axle - it is aslo way bars, springs, shocks, brakes, etc. You talking abut building a Darwin Award deathtrap machine. |
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Out of all the parts brought up, these are some of the ones that it shares with the F series trucks Not saying they aren't weak View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wouldn't touch it. excursions are know to have weak rear ends and transmissions. Out of all the parts brought up, these are some of the ones that it shares with the F series trucks Not saying they aren't weak interesting, I did not know that. I looked at used Excursion and was talking to a couple of mechanics and both asked me if I pulled anything. when I told them yes, they both shook their heads and told me to get something else. |
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OP has already stated he is willing to throw a ton of money at something that is already commercially available, most likely at higher cost. I'm just throwing out some other options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, if you are seriously looking at doing this check into pulling the body off your Excursion and buying a complete Super Duty body from these guys. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Big-Mikes-Truck-Stuff-DefianceOH/148218061889222 <a href="http://s136.photobucket.com/user/bailey123_album/media/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q176/bailey123_album/bigmikestruckstuff_zpstxlbb07p.jpg</a> I was out there Friday and bought a bed for my "new" to me Super Duty and found that for 2,400 I could buy the entire cab, 1,900 for the bed. Under 5,500 for eveything but chassis and firewall. Won't work. Well, won't be right. OP has already stated he is willing to throw a ton of money at something that is already commercially available, most likely at higher cost. I'm just throwing out some other options. Sorry, my sarcasm meter is out for a rebuild. |
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It isn't just the axle - it is aslo way bars, springs, shocks, brakes, etc. You talking abut building a Darwin Award deathtrap machine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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4.30 or lower gears will go in plus F350 front and rear springs and airbags. Did you not read it's the same frame and rear axle as a F250 /350? Front axle is a dana 50 with is the same as the front of a 250 until about 2004 or 2005 when the 250 got the same dana 60 as a 350 It isn't just the axle - it is aslo way bars, springs, shocks, brakes, etc. You talking abut building a Darwin Award deathtrap machine. this might be the issue that the Mechanics I talked with were leading too. very good points. |
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this might be the issue that the Mechanics I talked with were leading too. very good points. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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4.30 or lower gears will go in plus F350 front and rear springs and airbags. Did you not read it's the same frame and rear axle as a F250 /350? Front axle is a dana 50 with is the same as the front of a 250 until about 2004 or 2005 when the 250 got the same dana 60 as a 350 It isn't just the axle - it is aslo way bars, springs, shocks, brakes, etc. You talking abut building a Darwin Award deathtrap machine. this might be the issue that the Mechanics I talked with were leading too. very good points. Yeah for a heavy trailer day in and day out a F350 crew cab will do the job better. This era truck though did see axles going bad and trans smoking themselves but nothing with alarming regularity. And hey, they aren't as bad as the Dodges |
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You're joking right? The 5.4 V8 in the Excursion is pathetic. Not to mention slow as hell. 0-60 in the high 12's is even slower than the 7.3 (talking Prius with a flat tire type of acceleration here) 6,100 lbs with a 3.73 7,600 lbs with a 4.10 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? You're joking right? The 5.4 V8 in the Excursion is pathetic. Not to mention slow as hell. 0-60 in the high 12's is even slower than the 7.3 (talking Prius with a flat tire type of acceleration here) 6,100 lbs with a 3.73 7,600 lbs with a 4.10 Quoted:
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Why not a diesel? I'm just curious, plenty of v10s where I live and at decent prices too. Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? Have you ever pulled a 40 foot toy hauler? GM 6.0 or ford 6.2 v8 will puke their guts out. Diesel or big ass v10/v8 is the only way to go. Frankly, up any kind of grade or into a headwind you will hate everything but a diesel. My point exactly... Why a V10? We've pulled our previous 47ft trailer with our V8 Duramax Diesel with ease... You don't need a V10, you just need to get rid of the POS Ford. This is now a Ford hate thread. |
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View Quote My question is, who's holding his beer? |
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My question is, who's holding his beer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
My question is, who's holding his beer? what? let someone ELSE hold his beer? |
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My question is, who's holding his beer? what? let someone ELSE hold his beer? How else are they supposed to "watch this"? |
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im not sure what I like more
the idea of hacking up a excursion or cutting the sheetmetal with a sawzall.... the body guys will love you for it |
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interesting, I did not know that. I looked at used Excursion and was talking to a couple of mechanics and both asked me if I pulled anything. when I told them yes, they both shook their heads and told me to get something else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wouldn't touch it. excursions are know to have weak rear ends and transmissions. Out of all the parts brought up, these are some of the ones that it shares with the F series trucks Not saying they aren't weak interesting, I did not know that. I looked at used Excursion and was talking to a couple of mechanics and both asked me if I pulled anything. when I told them yes, they both shook their heads and told me to get something else. That's silly, Excursions are well known to be fine for towing, just not FIFTH WHEEL towing. As has been said, get the 7.3 if you plan to do serious towing, but the V10 (what I have) does just fine for taking a boat to the lake/river or running a trailer of stuff around. |
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OP.......you know that paying a body shop to cut up an Excursion the way you want to cut it up....and to make it look right....is going to cost a fortune right? You could be money and time ahead to just pick out a new pickup truck that will tow your 5th wheel.
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My question is, who's holding his beer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
My question is, who's holding his beer? That's a Tahoe, there are like 90 cupholders in them |
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That's a Tahoe, there are like 90 cupholders in them View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My question is, who's holding his beer? That's a Tahoe, there are like 90 cupholders in them That's a Suburban. |
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My question is, who's holding his beer? That's a Tahoe, there are like 90 cupholders in them That's a Suburban. 132 cup holders |
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Quoted: Same 4r100 trans as the superduty Same 10.5 sterling rear axle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I wouldn't touch it. excursions are know to have weak rear ends and transmissions. Same 4r100 trans as the superduty Same 10.5 sterling rear axle |
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We could do a Chevy version and make a El Burban or Sub Camino View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can do anything with money and work. However, it won't be an excursion, or a real towing vehicle. It would be cheaper and you would get more truck to buy a pickup and put a 3d row seat and soft top on it. If you do a lot of towing, it will be a pain in the butt, won't tow as much as a real truck, noisy, leaky, dangerously small turning radius with the trailer on, and will have easy access by anybody with a box cutter. You will also be on your own for towing related hard parts unless the frame is the same as a F-250 or 350. If you just want some "redneck cool" bastardized Ranchero Excursion, go for it. But "short wheel base" is not why folks buy towing vehicles. Ranchcursion or Exchero We could do a Chevy version and make a El Burban or Sub Camino Chevy beat everyone to it with the 2500 Avalanche. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Chevy beat everyone to it with the 2500 Avalanche. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can do anything with money and work. However, it won't be an excursion, or a real towing vehicle. It would be cheaper and you would get more truck to buy a pickup and put a 3d row seat and soft top on it. If you do a lot of towing, it will be a pain in the butt, won't tow as much as a real truck, noisy, leaky, dangerously small turning radius with the trailer on, and will have easy access by anybody with a box cutter. You will also be on your own for towing related hard parts unless the frame is the same as a F-250 or 350. If you just want some "redneck cool" bastardized Ranchero Excursion, go for it. But "short wheel base" is not why folks buy towing vehicles. Ranchcursion or Exchero We could do a Chevy version and make a El Burban or Sub Camino Chevy beat everyone to it with the 2500 Avalanche. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The avalanche would still need to lose the roof and tops of the doors over the rear seats to make it be good enough for a 5er. |
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Buy a 4 door shotbed and shorten the bed if that's what you want.
Buy a dually and get a stronger frame and rear axle in the bargain. |
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Option b would be buy a regular cab long bed and remove the rear window and back of cab and front part of bed add reinforcement around the cab opening and add a seat just in front of the 5th wheel.
Add this for when not towing. http://www.softopper.com/ford/softopper But would still be registered as a truck. Plus i think it would be harder to go this route. |
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Just get a reg cab truck and have the wife drive a second car for the few times you'll actually tow the trailer.
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