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Posted: 1/11/2018 5:36:44 PM EDT
What is their reasoning that a rifle with a stock and an 11.5" barrel does not need a tax stamp?
According to the NFA an SBR is any firearm with a buttstock that has a rifled barrel of less than sixteen inches, or an overall length of less than twenty six inches. The total length is measured in the extended position. However, Franklin Armory found a shocking loophole. View Quote |
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After 11" doesn't it break the 26" OAL rule and is therefore not a pistol?
I think it changes to a "firearm" at that point. But I was always under the impression that a "firearm" cant have a stock Please oh please be something like this, as my shorty FAL should be over 26" |
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After 11" doesn't it break the 26" OAL rule and is therefore not a pistol? I think it changes to a "firearm" at that point. But I was always under the impression that a "firearm" cant have a stock Please oh please be something like this, as my shorty FAL should be over 26" View Quote |
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I find it hard to believe that someone discovered something before the barracks lawyers of ArfCom did...
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Pretty sure
ETA: This product is not on Franklin's website |
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I'm guessing it has to do with the red doohickey shown under the selector.
Not sure how that would change anything though. ETA: OK, that's their normal binary trigger indicator. If they rig their triggers to only fire in binary mode with no single fire option, does that make it not a rifle by definition? |
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I don't even care what the loophole or reasoning is, I'm just glad firearms companies are so interested in joining us in fucking with the NFA instead of joining the government to fuck with gun owners like they did in the 90s.
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A non-rifled barrel would be so shitty... Fine for mag dumps though I guess.
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After 11" doesn't it break the 26" OAL rule and is therefore not a pistol? I think it changes to a "firearm" at that point. But I was always under the impression that a "firearm" cant have a stock Please oh please be something like this, as my shorty FAL should be over 26" View Quote |
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I'm guessing it has something to do with the rifling, because the OAL requirement is tough to engineer a solution to.
Just can't imagine how rifling could ever be significantly modified to result in a gun worth owning. |
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According to the NFA an SBR is any firearm with a buttstock that has a rifled barrel of less than sixteen inches, or an overall length of less than twenty six inches. The total length is measured in the extended position. However, Franklin Armory found a shocking loophole. View Quote |
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There has to be a catch otherwise whats stopping anyone out there from building something like this?
Shit one of my SBR's is setup nearly identically to this, down to the SL stock, just a different rail on the 11.5" barrel No way its smoothbore, that would be pants on head retarded. |
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Smooth bore barrel BUT muzzle device is rifled.
Muzzle device is not considered part of barrel or the length of barrel or length of anything. Just after the bullet leaves the muzzle it is given a twist by the muzzle device. This is my crazy guess???????????? |
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Smooth bore barrel BUT muzzle device is rifled. Muzzle device is not considered part of barrel or the length of barrel or length of anything. Just after the bullet leaves the muzzle it is given a twist by the muzzle device. This is my crazy guess???????????? View Quote |
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Lol, I think I know what it is, and they hit the loophole of loopholes if it is what I think.
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Smooth bore barrel BUT muzzle device is rifled. Muzzle device is not considered part of barrel or the length of barrel or length of anything. Just after the bullet leaves the muzzle it is given a twist by the muzzle device. This is my crazy guess???????????? View Quote |
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Sign me up. I would love to build a bunch of "firearms" at home. Needs more information first.
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I don't see the wizzardry.
>26"OAL and <16" rifled barrel =SBR 11.5" barrel 7.25" receiver >8.25" extended length on the stock ----------- >26" OAL. Or the barrel isn't rifled. |
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Franklin's done this before with their XO-26 "not a rifle/pistol/aow" thingy.
I'm interested, to say the least. |
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Smooth bore, but using a rifled slug? Or a rifled saboted slug?
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In before we taunt and pester the ATF.
Go get them, boys. Ruin this one, too. |
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