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“We know from the reporting of Nicholas Confessore and Danny Hakim at the New York Times that Jared Kushner, who was charged with overseeing Trump’s digital operations, is the reason Cambridge Analytica joined the Trump campaign.
Kushner hired a man named Brad Parscale, a Texas-based digital expert who had worked previously for team Trump. According to Confessore and Hakim, Cambridge Analytica convinced Parscale (who has since agreed to be interviewed by the House Intelligence Committee) to “try out the firm.” The decision was reinforced by Trump’s campaign manager, Steve Bannon, who is also a former vice president of Cambridge Analytica.” |
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I'm missing something...
They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? |
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So Trump campaigned huh? go figure..maybe you guys should email Cruz so he will know how to campaign the next time he loses.......
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I'm missing something... They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? View Quote |
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I'm missing something... They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? View Quote And this is who we're trusting? Over the guy who said this: I asked Steve Bannon whether he could imagine Trump pivoting to the left on guns after the Las Vegas massacre. "Impossible: will be the end of everything," Bannon texted. When asked whether Trump's base would react worse to this than they would if he supported an immigration amnesty bill, Bannon replied: "as hard as it is to believe actually worse." https://www.axios.com/bannon-warns-end-of-everything-if-trump-supports-gun-controls-1513305926-154b2600-5fb0-41d6-a467-3c795b9636a4.html |
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I'm missing something... They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? View Quote From the The Garudian article: Dr Kogan – who later changed his name to Dr Spectre, but has subsequently changed it back to Dr Kogan – is still a faculty member at Cambridge University, a senior research associate. But what his fellow academics didn’t know until Kogan revealed it in emails to the Observer (although Cambridge University says that Kogan told the head of the psychology department), is that he is also an associate professor at St Petersburg University. Further research revealed that he’s received grants from the Russian government to research “Stress, health and psychological wellbeing in social networks”. The opportunity came about on a trip to the city to visit friends and family, he said. There are other dramatic documents in Wylie’s stash, including a pitch made by Cambridge Analytica to Lukoil, Russia’s second biggest oil producer. In an email dated 17 July 2014, about the US presidential primaries, Nix wrote to Wylie: “We have been asked to write a memo to Lukoil (the Russian oil and gas company) to explain to them how our services are going to apply to the petroleum business. Nix said that “they understand behavioural microtargeting in the context of elections” but that they were “failing to make the connection between voters and their consumers”. The work, he said, would be “shared with the CEO of the business”, a former Soviet oil minister and associate of Putin, Vagit Alekperov. “It didn’t make any sense to me,” says Wylie. “I didn’t understand either the email or the pitch presentation we did. Why would a Russian oil company want to target information on American voters?” Mueller’s investigation traces the first stages of the Russian operation to disrupt the 2016 US election back to 2014, when the Russian state made what appears to be its first concerted efforts to harness the power of America’s social media platforms, including Facebook. And it was in late summer of the same year that Cambridge Analytica presented the Russian oil company with an outline of its datasets, capabilities and methodology. The presentation had little to do with “consumers”. Instead, documents show it focused on election disruption techniques. The first slide illustrates how a “rumour campaign” spread fear in the 2007 Nigerian election – in which the company worked – by spreading the idea that the “election would be rigged”. The final slide, branded with Lukoil’s logo and that of SCL Group and SCL Elections, headlines its “deliverables”: “psychographic messaging”. Lukoil is a private company, but its CEO, Alekperov, answers to Putin, and it’s been used as a vehicle of Russian influence in Europe and elsewhere – including in the Czech Republic, where in 2016 it was revealed that an adviser to the strongly pro-Russian Czech president was being paid by the company. When I asked Bill Browder – an Anglo-American businessman who is leading a global campaign for a Magnitsky Act to enforce sanctions against Russian individuals – what he made of it, he said: “Everyone in Russia is subordinate to Putin. One should be highly suspicious of any Russian company pitching anything outside its normal business activities.” Last month, Nix told MPs on the parliamentary committee investigating fake news: “We have never worked with a Russian organisation in Russia or any other company. We do not have any relationship with Russia or Russian individuals.” There’s no evidence that Cambridge Analytica ever did any work for Lukoil. What these documents show, though, is that in 2014 one of Russia’s biggest companies was fully briefed on: Facebook, microtargeting, data, election disruption. |
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No gotcha, unless you look into CA’s clients and Mueller’s interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes This article could have been written by the NYT. They do the same shit. They imply a lot of devious and possibly illegal things, and then they bury phrases that contradict all of it somewhere towards the bottom of the article. The same thing happens in this one: There’s no evidence that Cambridge Analytica ever did any work for Lukoil. What these documents show, though, is that in 2014 one of Russia’s biggest companies was fully briefed on: Facebook, microtargeting, data, election disruption. So they showed them how their system worked by showing them election data based on Nigeria. I'm no lawyer, but I don't even see any smoke, just an article of hype. |
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http://thehill.com/policy/technology/379046-cambridge-analytica-is-trying-to-stop-undercover-report-on-its-practices
Cambridge Analytica and Facebook threatened to sue The Guardian to keep them from publishing an exposé focusing on the whistleblower who released the data breach, according to CBS News.
The whistleblower has also said that Facebook suspended him after he revealed the information he claims Facebook was aware of for two years. Special counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly requested all emails between the Trump campaign and Cambridge Analytica. The House Intelligence Committee has also reportedly interviewed Nix. View Quote |
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Dr Aleksandr Kogan From the The Garudian article: Dr Kogan – who later changed his name to Dr Spectre, but has subsequently changed it back to Dr Kogan – is still a faculty member at Cambridge University, a senior research associate. But what his fellow academics didn’t know until Kogan revealed it in emails to the Observer (although Cambridge University says that Kogan told the head of the psychology department), is that he is also an associate professor at St Petersburg University. Further research revealed that he’s received grants from the Russian government to research “Stress, health and psychological wellbeing in social networks”. The opportunity came about on a trip to the city to visit friends and family, he said. There are other dramatic documents in Wylie’s stash, including a pitch made by Cambridge Analytica to Lukoil, Russia’s second biggest oil producer. In an email dated 17 July 2014, about the US presidential primaries, Nix wrote to Wylie: “We have been asked to write a memo to Lukoil (the Russian oil and gas company) to explain to them how our services are going to apply to the petroleum business. Nix said that “they understand behavioural microtargeting in the context of elections” but that they were “failing to make the connection between voters and their consumers”. The work, he said, would be “shared with the CEO of the business”, a former Soviet oil minister and associate of Putin, Vagit Alekperov. “It didn’t make any sense to me,” says Wylie. “I didn’t understand either the email or the pitch presentation we did. Why would a Russian oil company want to target information on American voters?” Mueller’s investigation traces the first stages of the Russian operation to disrupt the 2016 US election back to 2014, when the Russian state made what appears to be its first concerted efforts to harness the power of America’s social media platforms, including Facebook. And it was in late summer of the same year that Cambridge Analytica presented the Russian oil company with an outline of its datasets, capabilities and methodology. The presentation had little to do with “consumers”. Instead, documents show it focused on election disruption techniques. The first slide illustrates how a “rumour campaign” spread fear in the 2007 Nigerian election – in which the company worked – by spreading the idea that the “election would be rigged”. The final slide, branded with Lukoil’s logo and that of SCL Group and SCL Elections, headlines its “deliverables”: “psychographic messaging”. Lukoil is a private company, but its CEO, Alekperov, answers to Putin, and it’s been used as a vehicle of Russian influence in Europe and elsewhere – including in the Czech Republic, where in 2016 it was revealed that an adviser to the strongly pro-Russian Czech president was being paid by the company. When I asked Bill Browder – an Anglo-American businessman who is leading a global campaign for a Magnitsky Act to enforce sanctions against Russian individuals – what he made of it, he said: “Everyone in Russia is subordinate to Putin. One should be highly suspicious of any Russian company pitching anything outside its normal business activities.” Last month, Nix told MPs on the parliamentary committee investigating fake news: “We have never worked with a Russian organisation in Russia or any other company. We do not have any relationship with Russia or Russian individuals.” There’s no evidence that Cambridge Analytica ever did any work for Lukoil. What these documents show, though, is that in 2014 one of Russia’s biggest companies was fully briefed on: Facebook, microtargeting, data, election disruption. View Quote See bolded in your own quote. |
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View Quote The article is from the Guardian. |
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Parscale was on TV numerous times and was one of the few who's analysis of the voters showed Trump would win.
He was likely the most accurate election predictor out there from all the talking heads I heard during the election season IIRC. What is wrong with what he did? |
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Parscale was on TV numerous times and was one of the few who's analysis of the voters showed Trump would win. He was likely the most accurate election predictor out there from all the talking heads I heard during the election season IIRC. What is wrong with what he did? View Quote I guess they're trying to tie the whole thing back to their Russian boogeyman, from what I can tell, because this firm gave a presentation to a Russian oil company trying to get some business in 2014. It went no where and they have no tie to Russia other than a single presentation. This is some serious grasping at straws, unless someone can point out what I missed in the article. |
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The article is from the Guardian. |
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The source article is from FT which is behind a paywall. View Quote So the Guardian is linking to FT? I don't see that mentioned in the article. I'm talking about the one in the OP, not yours. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump |
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Lol, where’s that article that discovered that over 40% of Congressional reps social media followers were made up shill accounts?
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Cambridge Analytica Uncovered: Secret filming reveals election tricks |
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Yes that is a big problem these days. Analytics firms blackmailing politicians is also a big problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fake news. Soooooo, I wonder how many CA shills are on this site. |
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This must be the daily Wailing & Gnashing Of Teeth thread from the Cruzlims.
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This must be the daily Wailing & Gnashing Of Teeth thread from the Cruzlims. |
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This must be the daily Wailing & Gnashing Of Teeth thread from the Cruzlims. It's one thing to get your ass kicked but it's a whole 'nother to be pulling your pants down and bending over in front of everyone to yell about how sore it is 2 years after the fact. |
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You're welcome. It's one thing to get your ass kicked but it's a whole 'nother to be pulling your pants down and bending over in front of everyone to yell about how sore it is 2 years after the fact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This must be the daily Wailing & Gnashing Of Teeth thread from the Cruzlims. It's one thing to get your ass kicked but it's a whole 'nother to be pulling your pants down and bending over in front of everyone to yell about how sore it is 2 years after the fact. |
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It's very difficult to admit that you've been conned. You'll get there eventually. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This must be the daily Wailing & Gnashing Of Teeth thread from the Cruzlims. It's one thing to get your ass kicked but it's a whole 'nother to be pulling your pants down and bending over in front of everyone to yell about how sore it is 2 years after the fact. |
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Nice try at spin by the lefties at the Guardian.
Cambridge Analytica's data mining was an attempt to replicate on a very small scale the massive efforts of corporations like Google, Facebook, Twitter to target the electorate with messaging to advance leftist candidates. You won't see the Guardian doing an article about the massive volunteer effort of legions of employees at Google, Facebook, etc. to aid the Clinton campaign. |
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Nice try at spin by the lefties at the Guardian. Cambridge Analytica's data mining was an attempt to replicate on a very small scale the massive efforts of corporations like Google, Facebook, Twitter to target the electorate with messaging to advance leftist candidates. You won't see the Guardian doing an article about the massive volunteer effort of legions of employees at Google, Facebook, etc. to aid the Clinton campaign. View Quote |
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I'm missing something... They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? View Quote |
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Nice try at spin by the lefties at the Guardian. Cambridge Analytica's data mining was an attempt to replicate on a very small scale the massive efforts of corporations like Google, Facebook, Twitter to target the electorate with messaging to advance leftist candidates. You won't see the Guardian doing an article about the massive volunteer effort of legions of employees at Google, Facebook, etc. to aid the Clinton campaign. View Quote What sort of people fall for Gaurdian/Bannon type propaganda? |
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This never trumper bullshit is getting old, I’m not happy about him talking about gun control but some of you would rather have Hilary as president.
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Facebook, Google, and all the social media businesses all do the same shit day in and day out. Take your data and sell it to whomever and let them run back wild. Facebook is a fucking sham of a company. Oh hey sign up to keep in touch with all your friends and family. Meanwhile we are going to sell all the data we collect on you to third party's and we don't give a shit what they do with it. But hey keep uploading baby photos nothing to see here.
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Facebook, Google, and all the social media businesses all do the same shit day in and day out. Take your data and sell it to whomever and let them run back wild. Facebook is a fucking sham of a company. Oh hey sign up to keep in touch with all your friends and family. Meanwhile we are going to sell all the data we collect on you to third party's and we don't give a shit what they do with it. But hey keep uploading baby photos nothing to see here. View Quote Bannon/CA acquired that data and fed it back to the rubes (biased for their profit) on the same social media outlets. |
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Holy shit the desperation in this thread.
There just HAS to be a reason that Trump won , other than people voted for him. 48 hours ago nobody on this board knew who CA is, today they are the devious demons who unseated the anointed one and the booger eater. You guys should petition ARFCOM for your SSRI badges. |
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Post in the wrong thread? If you read the thread title this is a Bannon bashing thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Maybe but all the never trumpers are here bashing bannon. So the comment stands. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This never trumper bullshit is getting old, I’m not happy about him talking about gun control but some of you would rather have Hilary as president. If you read the thread title this is a Bannon bashing thread. |
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View Quote I knew about CA since last year. People are so damn stupid, so easily. But blackmailing with Ukrainian prostitutes, thats old school right there. |
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Holy shit the desperation in this thread. There just HAS to be a reason that Trump won , other than people voted for him. 48 hours ago nobody on this board knew who CA is, today they are the devious demons who unseated the anointed one and the booger eater. You guys should petition ARFCOM for your SSRI badges. View Quote Hell, you can even convince gun owners that its ok to have anti-gun policies. We even see it here. |
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Speak for yourself. I read the first article posted over at The Guardian. It's interesting how they control the mass. Next level shit. Hell, you can even convince gun owners that its ok to have anti-gun policies. We even see it here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Holy shit the desperation in this thread. There just HAS to be a reason that Trump won , other than people voted for him. 48 hours ago nobody on this board knew who CA is, today they are the devious demons who unseated the anointed one and the booger eater. You guys should petition ARFCOM for your SSRI badges. Hell, you can even convince gun owners that its ok to have anti-gun policies. We even see it here. They want to believe, so feed them their favorite tripe. |
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Speak for yourself. I read the first article posted over at The Guardian. It's interesting how they control the mass. Next level shit. Hell, you can even convince gun owners that its ok to have anti-gun policies. We even see it here. View Quote |
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Quoted: Indeed. I just finished watching the above Youtube video about Bannon's old company. Sure does explain a lot about Bannon's role in this past Presidential campaign. View Quote What is wrong with that? One of the many times I saw Parscale on TV, he explained that that is what their data mining was doing and it also showed that it was having an effect to such an extent that their "polling" showed Trump would win a close one. Why can't they gather that info and use it to win an election by strategically using that info to target groups they feel would like to, for example, see a change from selling America to foreigners to America keeping more of its assets for its own advancement??? Why is this supposed to surprise me and make me angry like I would be when seeing a criminal commit a crime??? |
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Dr Aleksandr Kogan From the The Garudian article: Dr Kogan – who later changed his name to Dr Spectre, but has subsequently changed it back to Dr Kogan – is still a faculty member at Cambridge University, a senior research associate. But what his fellow academics didn’t know until Kogan revealed it in emails to the Observer (although Cambridge University says that Kogan told the head of the psychology department), is that he is also an associate professor at St Petersburg University. Further research revealed that he’s received grants from the Russian government to research “Stress, health and psychological wellbeing in social networks”. The opportunity came about on a trip to the city to visit friends and family, he said. There are other dramatic documents in Wylie’s stash, including a pitch made by Cambridge Analytica to Lukoil, Russia’s second biggest oil producer. In an email dated 17 July 2014, about the US presidential primaries, Nix wrote to Wylie: “We have been asked to write a memo to Lukoil (the Russian oil and gas company) to explain to them how our services are going to apply to the petroleum business. Nix said that “they understand behavioural microtargeting in the context of elections” but that they were “failing to make the connection between voters and their consumers”. The work, he said, would be “shared with the CEO of the business”, a former Soviet oil minister and associate of Putin, Vagit Alekperov. “It didn’t make any sense to me,” says Wylie. “I didn’t understand either the email or the pitch presentation we did. Why would a Russian oil company want to target information on American voters?” Mueller’s investigation traces the first stages of the Russian operation to disrupt the 2016 US election back to 2014, when the Russian state made what appears to be its first concerted efforts to harness the power of America’s social media platforms, including Facebook. And it was in late summer of the same year that Cambridge Analytica presented the Russian oil company with an outline of its datasets, capabilities and methodology. The presentation had little to do with “consumers”. Instead, documents show it focused on election disruption techniques. The first slide illustrates how a “rumour campaign” spread fear in the 2007 Nigerian election – in which the company worked – by spreading the idea that the “election would be rigged”. The final slide, branded with Lukoil’s logo and that of SCL Group and SCL Elections, headlines its “deliverables”: “psychographic messaging”. Lukoil is a private company, but its CEO, Alekperov, answers to Putin, and it’s been used as a vehicle of Russian influence in Europe and elsewhere – including in the Czech Republic, where in 2016 it was revealed that an adviser to the strongly pro-Russian Czech president was being paid by the company. When I asked Bill Browder – an Anglo-American businessman who is leading a global campaign for a Magnitsky Act to enforce sanctions against Russian individuals – what he made of it, he said: “Everyone in Russia is subordinate to Putin. One should be highly suspicious of any Russian company pitching anything outside its normal business activities.” Last month, Nix told MPs on the parliamentary committee investigating fake news: “We have never worked with a Russian organisation in Russia or any other company. We do not have any relationship with Russia or Russian individuals.” There’s no evidence that Cambridge Analytica ever did any work for Lukoil. What these documents show, though, is that in 2014 one of Russia’s biggest companies was fully briefed on: Facebook, microtargeting, data, election disruption. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm missing something... They bought mined data from Facebook and built profiles that they could target with political ads and news. What's illegal or unethical about this? IIRC, Obama did something very similar in 2012 using profiles and geographical data. What's the big "gotcha" on this? From the The Garudian article: Dr Kogan – who later changed his name to Dr Spectre, but has subsequently changed it back to Dr Kogan – is still a faculty member at Cambridge University, a senior research associate. But what his fellow academics didn’t know until Kogan revealed it in emails to the Observer (although Cambridge University says that Kogan told the head of the psychology department), is that he is also an associate professor at St Petersburg University. Further research revealed that he’s received grants from the Russian government to research “Stress, health and psychological wellbeing in social networks”. The opportunity came about on a trip to the city to visit friends and family, he said. There are other dramatic documents in Wylie’s stash, including a pitch made by Cambridge Analytica to Lukoil, Russia’s second biggest oil producer. In an email dated 17 July 2014, about the US presidential primaries, Nix wrote to Wylie: “We have been asked to write a memo to Lukoil (the Russian oil and gas company) to explain to them how our services are going to apply to the petroleum business. Nix said that “they understand behavioural microtargeting in the context of elections” but that they were “failing to make the connection between voters and their consumers”. The work, he said, would be “shared with the CEO of the business”, a former Soviet oil minister and associate of Putin, Vagit Alekperov. “It didn’t make any sense to me,” says Wylie. “I didn’t understand either the email or the pitch presentation we did. Why would a Russian oil company want to target information on American voters?” Mueller’s investigation traces the first stages of the Russian operation to disrupt the 2016 US election back to 2014, when the Russian state made what appears to be its first concerted efforts to harness the power of America’s social media platforms, including Facebook. And it was in late summer of the same year that Cambridge Analytica presented the Russian oil company with an outline of its datasets, capabilities and methodology. The presentation had little to do with “consumers”. Instead, documents show it focused on election disruption techniques. The first slide illustrates how a “rumour campaign” spread fear in the 2007 Nigerian election – in which the company worked – by spreading the idea that the “election would be rigged”. The final slide, branded with Lukoil’s logo and that of SCL Group and SCL Elections, headlines its “deliverables”: “psychographic messaging”. Lukoil is a private company, but its CEO, Alekperov, answers to Putin, and it’s been used as a vehicle of Russian influence in Europe and elsewhere – including in the Czech Republic, where in 2016 it was revealed that an adviser to the strongly pro-Russian Czech president was being paid by the company. When I asked Bill Browder – an Anglo-American businessman who is leading a global campaign for a Magnitsky Act to enforce sanctions against Russian individuals – what he made of it, he said: “Everyone in Russia is subordinate to Putin. One should be highly suspicious of any Russian company pitching anything outside its normal business activities.” Last month, Nix told MPs on the parliamentary committee investigating fake news: “We have never worked with a Russian organisation in Russia or any other company. We do not have any relationship with Russia or Russian individuals.” There’s no evidence that Cambridge Analytica ever did any work for Lukoil. What these documents show, though, is that in 2014 one of Russia’s biggest companies was fully briefed on: Facebook, microtargeting, data, election disruption. Valerie Jarrett is Iranian, how should that be interpreted? |
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