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Posted: 10/21/2023 10:56:04 PM EDT
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I’ve shot it and the 30-30, and I’ll say the .500 S&W had more recoil.
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I've shot one loaded with trap door level loads it's not bad
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I'm out with my Sharp's one afternoon during the week (when the range wasn't so crowded) and a guy shows up, sets up next to me and starts shooting,
During a cease fire he asks me what caliber my Sharps is. "Just .45-70. What's that BFR chambered in?" I ask. This thing was generating HUGE clouds of BP smoke. "Oh, .45-120." he says. I was like: |
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I have a 500 Smith I never shoot but I would also like one of those.
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I read that with slow rifle powder only like 1/3 of the powder combusts and the rest just gets blown out of the muzzle onto the ground.
A guy set his indoor range on fire when the unburnt powder scattered on the ground lit off at once. |
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It packs a punch but that is one ugly gun.
Like some generic "revolver" you get in a 90s video game. |
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I have a 5.9" barrel 500 Smith and when I load it up to 1900 Ft/Lbs it's very punishing. Can't imagine what the 2600 Ft/Lb loads might be like, but that's the brilliance of the BFR platform- it can handle anything you can but doesn't cushion things with ports or a brake!
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Yeah, .44 mag is the most recoil I want to subject myself to.
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The 45/70 BFR is very nice to shoot. Full house load have a little recoil but anything black power equivalent is like shooting a 38spl.
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Yea. About thirty- five years ago a gun writer tested one of the BFR in .45-70. After a box of shells, his hands were done. He couldn't shoot another handgun for 6 months. He strained all of the tendons and ligaments of his hands.
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Those things are pussycats compared to the Bond Arms Derringer in the same caliber. I put 2 rounds through one and my hand was numb for a week!
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Quoted: But I still fukkin' want one!!! https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_597/gi_101182552/Magnum-Research-BFR-45-70-govt_101182552_597_4755C4A0AF17170C.JPG https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/179132/955033842/wm_14994589.jpg https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/6160/994444186/wm_7508738.jpg Completely pants-on-head retarded for any real world purpose... but I'd still buy one in a heartbeat, if I could overlook the $1k+ entry fee. Oh, and just in case you didn't know, BFR stands for biggest, FINEST, revolver. Anyone got one? View Quote |
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I don't regret buying mine one bit. It's every bit as fun as you could imagine.
I'll have a pair of 500 S&W Mags by the time I retire from the Navy. |
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A buddy of mine showed up one day with the revolver and the derringer. The revolver really wasn’t bad, you could shoot it all day. The derringer hurt. I think the on the second shot it rotated in my hand a bit and the hammer tore into my thumb pretty good.
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I have learned to handle my .500, so I would like one of those someday as well.
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Quoted: A buddy of mine showed up one day with the revolver and the derringer. The revolver really wasn’t bad, you could shoot it all day. The derringer hurt. I think the on the second shot it rotated in my hand a bit and the hammer tore into my thumb pretty good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/131444/IMG_9410_jpeg-2999957.JPG View Quote That Derringer is the very definition of "Because we can." IOW, stupid overriding common sense. |
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I kinda want one that will shoot the 3 inch Brenneke Magnum Crush shells/slugs.
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Go check out the options on the magnum research BFR custom page. They will make it for you as a snub nose or any barrel length you want. Different types of cyl fluting, finishes, etc.
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I used to have one. It was fun and rather mild to shoot with any of the big name ammo company factory loads. Even shot a deer with it, using a handload with a cast bullet.
I also have a .45-70 Contender barrel, complete with muzzle brake, that was a complete Jekyll and Hyde in comparison to the BFR with the exact same ammo. My theory is that the cylinder gap somehow interferes with the pressure curve of the rifle powder those factory loads use. The posts earlier in the thread about the Bond Cyclops being a beast in comparison to the BFR might support my theory or could reflect the difference in weight and grip between the two. So I used to own one. It became redundant to my needs and a friend who had shot it and loved it talked me into selling to him. I was feeling sorry for the guy after he got a pacemaker installed with hardware somewhere around his right shoulder and couldn't shoot a rifle with any recoil to speak of from there anymore. Redundant? I became aware of an even more outrageous .45-70 revolver and in true Arfcom GD style, got both. Century Manufacturing, out of Indiana and NOT related to Century Arms, is one of several small outfits that have tried to convince the world that what it needs is a .45-70 six shooter and proceeded to go broke when nobody beat a path to their front door. If you think the BFR is just about what you want, but have Midcap tastes and think it looks too skinny, this is for you. One interesting thing is that they made the frame and a few other parts of "high tensile manganese bronze alloy". Unlike the BFR, this thing is a pain to shoot one-handed. Not because of recoil, but because it's too heavy to hold steady with one hand. Of course I got rid of the more practical one, so: Attached File |
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Quoted: I used to have one. It was fun and rather mild to shoot with any of the big name ammo company factory loads. Even shot a deer with it, using a handload with a cast bullet. I also have a .45-70 Contender barrel, complete with muzzle brake, that was a complete Jekyll and Hyde in comparison to the BFR with the exact same ammo. My theory is that the cylinder gap somehow interferes with the pressure curve of the rifle powder those factory loads use. The posts earlier in the thread about the Bond Cyclops being a beast in comparison to the BFR might support my theory or could reflect the difference in weight and grip between the two. So I used to own one. It became redundant to my needs and a friend who had shot it and loved it talked me into selling to him. I was feeling sorry for the guy after he got a pacemaker installed with hardware somewhere around his right shoulder and couldn't shoot a rifle with any recoil to speak of from there anymore. Redundant? I became aware of an even more outrageous .45-70 revolver and in true Arfcom GD style, got both. Century Manufacturing, out of Indiana and NOT related to Century Arms, is one of several small outfits that have tried to convince the world that what it needs is a .45-70 six shooter and proceeded to go broke when nobody beat a path to their front door. If you think the BFR is just about what you want, but have Midcap tastes and think it looks too skinny, this is for you. One interesting thing is that they made the frame and a few other parts of "high tensile manganese bronze alloy". Unlike the BFR, this thing is a pain to shoot one-handed. Not because of recoil, but because it's too heavy to hold steady with one hand. Of course I got rid of the more practical one, so: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/260679/IMG_20220108_103508_burst_01_kindlephoto-2999982.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: I used to have one. It was fun and rather mild to shoot with any of the big name ammo company factory loads. Even shot a deer with it, using a handload with a cast bullet. I also have a .45-70 Contender barrel, complete with muzzle brake, that was a complete Jekyll and Hyde in comparison to the BFR with the exact same ammo. My theory is that the cylinder gap somehow interferes with the pressure curve of the rifle powder those factory loads use. The posts earlier in the thread about the Bond Cyclops being a beast in comparison to the BFR might support my theory or could reflect the difference in weight and grip between the two. So I used to own one. It became redundant to my needs and a friend who had shot it and loved it talked me into selling to him. I was feeling sorry for the guy after he got a pacemaker installed with hardware somewhere around his right shoulder and couldn't shoot a rifle with any recoil to speak of from there anymore. Redundant? I became aware of an even more outrageous .45-70 revolver and in true Arfcom GD style, got both. Century Manufacturing, out of Indiana and NOT related to Century Arms, is one of several small outfits that have tried to convince the world that what it needs is a .45-70 six shooter and proceeded to go broke when nobody beat a path to their front door. If you think the BFR is just about what you want, but have Midcap tastes and think it looks too skinny, this is for you. One interesting thing is that they made the frame and a few other parts of "high tensile manganese bronze alloy". Unlike the BFR, this thing is a pain to shoot one-handed. Not because of recoil, but because it's too heavy to hold steady with one hand. Of course I got rid of the more practical one, so: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/260679/IMG_20220108_103508_burst_01_kindlephoto-2999982.JPG View Quote Cool gun! I think Jerry Miculek has a video about one. |
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YUP. I had my eye on one for years knowing I had no practical use for it, but I still yearned for one.
Average prices I saw were ~$1500-1600 so I gave myself a target of $1200 as my BUY IT price. Right when the KungFlu scamdemic was ramping up in April 20, I got a nice bonus at work for being "Essential" and saw one on GB for $999 starting bid. I bid the minimum and won it with no other bids. Love it. Shoots amazingly soft with the mild target loads I make and manageable with factory rifle loads. I've carried it during deer season a few times but yet to put venison in the freezer with it. Maybe this year. I have a crazy story related to that pistol but plead the 5th on that one. I will say Magnum Research Customer service was top notch when I had to reach out to them. |
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Quoted: Got-damn, I didn't even know those existed! View Quote Here's one on GunBroker: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1013047227 |
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Mine has been enjoying living in a cross chest, open top holster made by Triple K Leather, in San Diego. Joker goes on roadtrips out of state with me. 2-7 Vortex Scout scope on it, as well
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In one of the videos on their site, they showed the raw frames from Pine Tree Castings, the same folks that make Ruger castings.
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Yeah, I'd say it's effing retarded! I would not attempt to fire a handgun like that.
Shit, I don't like shooting anything but my black powder loads in my 13lb Sharps replica. |
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Magnum Research BFR's are really nice revolvers, I have one in a 5-shot .45 Colt and and another in .454 Casull.
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A couple of years before 2020, Magnum Research released some blem BFR .45-70 models for $700 or so. I really regret not buying one back then.
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Quoted: In one of the videos on their site, they showed the raw frames from Pine Tree Castings, the same folks that make Ruger castings. View Quote Easy to believe, considering the original BFR was a custom job built on a Blackhawk, by a guy who got sick of deer hunting and seeing birds to shoot. So he extended the frame, made a long cylinder chambered in .410/.45 and called it the D Max Sidewinder. Eventually Magnum Research bought the rights and it became the BFR. |
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