Another blow for America's Mayor as he faces huge damages payout - and has to pay $89,000 in legal fees


Rudy Giuliani is ordered to fork over fines in a defamation case involving his comments about two Georgia election workers.

The fines are sanctions from Judge Beryl Howell against former President Donald Trump's lawyer for failing to turn over electronic records in the defamation case.

The ruling enables the case to move forward to a trial in federal court in Washington to determine any damages that Giuliani must pay. It's unclear how much he will have to pay, but the fines could reach nearly $90,000.



In the meantime, Howell said, Giuliani and his business entities will need to pay more than $130,000 in attorneys' fees and other costs.

Wandrea 'Shaye' Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman, both Georgia election workers in the 2020 cycle, demanded records in their defamation case against Giuliani. The case stems from their allegations against Giuliani for spreading false vote-rigging claims about them following the 2020 presidential election.







Wandrea 'Shaye' Moss (center) testified while her mother Ruby Freeman (right) attended in support during a hearing on June 21, 2022 before the House select committee probing the January 6, 2021 Capitol attack. The mother-daughter duo are suing Giuliani for defamation when he claimed Moss and Freeman they engaged in fraud while counting ballots at State Farm Arena in Atlanta, Georgia following the 2020 election




Giuliani admitted previously that his statements were false against Moss and Freeman, who claim their reputations were damaged by the remarks.

Howell says Giuliani will have one 'final opportunity' to produce the requested information for the case's discovery or else face additional sanctions.

The former New York Mayor is facing a civil trial in Washington, D.C. federal court to determine how much he will need to hand over in the defamation case.

Giuliani is facing a barrage of legal costs, including a $20,000 monthly fee to a company hosting his electronic records. Trump's former attorney is one of the 18 co-defendants charged with the ex-President in Fulton County for the scheme to illegally overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia.

He turned himself over to authorities at Fulton County Jail last week and was booked. His mug shot was released along with his 17 co-defendants and Trump.

Moss and Freeman's complaint from December 2021 accused Giuliani, one of Trump's top confidants, of defaming them by falsely claiming they engaged in fraud while counting ballots at State Farm Arena in Atlanta, Georgia following the 2020 election.


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It was pretty shady how that whole ballot counting thing was handled.......Fulton County is a crap hole

Those bitches were on video running ballots through the machine multiple times, and he "defamed" them saying they ran ballots through the machine multiple times, like you can see them do on video.

Fucking clown world.

Anybody hear the new thing about Rudy drinking, thats their new angle

Yeah, it was pretty evident but Democrats protect their own

So why did RG backpedal?

Cuz he’s a dim witted shithead

So why did Guilliani admit he lied?

They blocked the windows and kicked everyone out. The election was legit..

I wonder if he wasn't told to backpedal or they would hammer him hard

The bigger question is why the windows were blocked and people tossed out.......that has never been answered

Was there ever a legitimate explanation of that video?

They said they were worried they would get caught, this was captured by video recording, and they’re gonna get paid?!

What?

And the fake report of a water main break for which no damage was reported or work order was ever produced. The whole thing was suspect as hell, I'm sure many of us here defamed those clowns as much or more than old Rudy did.

What are you going to believe your lying eyes?  Or the mainstream media shouting debunked?

It's a deepfake generated by a bigoted and homophobic Russian AI bot programmed by Donald Trump himself, with the help of the ghost of Hitler summoned by a far-right white supremacist seance.

It's honestly incredible that the same people responsible for propagating the Big Lie got blown out in multiple court trials, across multiple states,  AND admit they lied but people still believe the election was stolen. It really is all about feels.

Some may think it’s funny but these same steps being taken against the populist leadership will eventually he turned on the populist voter.

clown world

Bank on it......soon your opinion will be invalidated and illegal

The first rule of communism is you must control the language

This...Lets say all of this, all of it is bullshit and political use of the courts to punish their ideological enemies. Why admit you lied and made shit up then, fuck that if they're going to ram-rod you be defiantly proud you did/said the right thing. That's the least you can do. Sort of like being lined up at the ditch, why just kneel there waiting your turn? Charge the nearest MF'er and chew his eyes out.

See crime does pay

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Ayup.

It was all bull shit and they know it.

I honestly don’t care what any talking head, politician, judge, etc, has to say.  

Can someone just help me understand what I saw on video with those election workers?

this might help

https://eu.augustachronicle.com/story/news/politics/elections/presidential/2020/12/07/secret-suitcase-magic-ballots-actually-bag-ballots-packed/3858322001/

https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2023-06/SEB2020-059%20ROI%20redacted.pdf

Democrat judges are well known for fairness.

Sarcasm.

You saw them stealing a election.

If 9/11 never happened, Rudy Giuliani would have been remembered for being a corrupt piece of shit who used the NYPD to move his mistresses around town and for being an anti-gunner and an authoritarian.

Does he explain why they were stored under the table, pulled out after the announcement of a leak shutting down counting and than run through machines without requisite watchers from both sides?

Rudy admitted to making shit up and pulling it out of his ass. He admitted to the court that he lied.

Apparently, Kemp was not an active participant. He let Raffensperger do all the dirty work.

So what is that video off ?

Has that ever been explained
I know all the members on this board watched it and it was those ladies

They already came for the populist voters that were near the capitol on J6. Trump and crew left them to twist in the wind. Why do they deserve better?

This threat that if what happens to Trump runs its course it means they'll come after us unless we stop it is empty.

We've seen the system come after us and instead of standing between us and the system, Trump decided pardoning criminals and giving medals to Fauci, Milley, Kushner et all was more important.

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Just to be clear, you believe Joe won fair and square with 81m legit and valid votes?

It must have come up during the trial what they were doing in the video

It doesn't matter what the video was about. RUDY GIULIANI ADMITTED THAT HE LIED AND MADE SHIT UP. He automatically killed any argument, PERIOD.

The plaintiffs stated that the "USB drives" Rudy claimed they were passing around. Were ginger snap cookies.

Rudy killed any case by lying. Simple as that. YOU CAN'T FUCKING LIE.

Couldn’t happen to a better Gun Banner.

well brother i feel like you could read it your own self and come to a conclusion but as the saying goes... you can lead a horse to water...

All while Trump left his most loyal supporters to languish. Hell, Trump on January 7th said the book.needs to be thrown at them. And right now, he's backing to making the same campaign promises he never had the balls to do.

Trump tells Glenn Beck he'd 'lock up' political opponents if reelected.



It is 2016 all over again.

Of course it doesn't  

I did, and I can buy the “standard packaging” but the rest sounded like BS, and forcing them to continue counting is kind of contradicted by the video when only some people were there counting when we saw everyone else leave.  But if you want to believe him yelling debunked and not your lying eyes, you do you.

"Fair and square" is a loaded term. I think Biden got more votes than Trump, in the places he needed, due to a confluence of factors in 2020. Trump barely won in 2016 and barely lost in 2020. The result should not be that surprising.

What is disappointing is how quickly the right has adopted the sore loser excuses of the left when it comes to losing elections. When the left loses, they cry about voter suppression. They refuse to believe that their ideas could ever lose and so when they lose, it must be because of cheating!

The right now claims every loss is because of election fraud. They cannot fathom that there are people out there that don't agree, so if they lose it's because of cheating!

The problem with this coping strategy is it makes us blind to the real reasons for losing and will lead to bad strategy and bad tactics in the future.

Imagine a football team where the players and coaches claimed every loss was because of cheating and the refs and thus refused to review tapes and improve. You can imagine how their team will do in future games. That's the future I see for the GOP until we pull out of this death spiral.

That report is full of

"...an African American woman with long blonde dreads had screamed to everybody “we are calling it, let’s everybody go.”"... But the TOP MEN at the Georgia SoS wrote: "Both poll watchers confirmed that no one was told or instructed to leave State Farm Arena."



Yep... nothing to see there... in clown world.

They only thing the Georgia SoS report didn't prove was that the ballots under the table were fake... but Georgia SoS didn't seem to actually do any real work to investigate the ballots or indicate how difficult it would be to fake such things.  It's not really even clear what the credentials of the investigator were... but writing a coherent report doesn't seem to be one of them.

I have absolutely no doubt he got 81M ballots, I have a lot doubt if 81M voted for him.  

Passed around a jump drive too.

Any valid arguments and evidence would have been carried forward not to mention without leaving that bizarre German server-farm RAID and Dominion tie-in. Any legitimate claim of fraud case was absolutely mishandled by these clowns.