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Posted: 11/3/2013 1:30:39 PM EDT
God I am so pissed.
Blue Cross/Blue shield of NC wants me to roll into a "silver" plan which gives a hell of a lot less coverage for 3x the price.

Going to tell Blue Cross/Blue Shield that if they had wanted to keep me as a customer, they would have lobbied harder against Obama Care.


Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:31:43 PM EDT
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Strange I remember our beloved President saying that if you liked your plan you could keep it.  You telling me he lied?
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:33:00 PM EDT
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Individual account or group plan through employer?
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:33:21 PM EDT
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not possible, the government would never intentionally lie to the people, nor our glorious presidickhead...
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:34:07 PM EDT
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mail on a Sunday?
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:34:55 PM EDT
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I flinch everytine seeing healthcare letters in the mailbox. I'm thinking I owe too much for them to cancel me right now or my plan is already shitty ?
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:36:28 PM EDT
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I didn't go to mailbox yesterday....

Individual plan, I am self a self employed farmer.

That means I need insurance against big things, like getting mauled by a piece of equipment, I don't use insurance for the small stuff, just paid cash.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:37:25 PM EDT
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I received mine last week, grandfathered in with a roughly 30% increase from 290 to 371 - individual plan, 50 years old.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:40:07 PM EDT
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My wife got hers yesterday.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:40:46 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1550347_You_can_keep_your_current_health_plan__you_can_keep_your_doctor.html
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God I am so pissed.
Blue Cross/Blue shield of NC wants me to roll into a "silver" plan which gives a hell of a lot less coverage for 3x the price.

Going to tell Blue Cross/Blue Shield that if they had wanted to keep me as a customer, they would have lobbied harder against Obama Care.


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Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:40:48 PM EDT
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Tell them that Obama promised the same plan $2500 cheaper.  That is your starting point for negotiation.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:41:12 PM EDT
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Got my From BC/BS in my state, and in order to keep the same plan (which equals out to bronze coverage) my premium is increasing 100%.

Im dropping it and taking the fine the first year. (Im young and in goo health.)
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:43:07 PM EDT
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FED VIP BC/BS, I hate to say it but I'm kind of glad I have the same health care as those dick eating politicians. No rise in cost and excellent coverage. I do feel bad for the rest of you though. I'll be fucked if they ever change it, my son has asthma, his coverage alone is worth thousands yearly.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:51:12 PM EDT
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Na, he didn't lie, he just misspoke.

(according to Fox, thats what the New York Times says today)
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:51:30 PM EDT
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According to the Democrats, your insurance sucked but you were just too stupid to realize it.



You should be thankful that Obama has pointed this out to you.

Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:54:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:55:48 PM EDT
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God I am so pissed.
Blue Cross/Blue shield of NC wants me to roll into a "silver" plan which gives a hell of a lot less coverage for 3x the price.

Going to tell Blue Cross/Blue Shield that if they had wanted to keep me as a customer, they would have lobbied harder against Obama Care.


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Wait a min.  Good ole Barry has been telling us people too stupid to realize all those plans getting canceled were substandard plans, and the Obamacare plans were so much better for the money.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:58:04 PM EDT
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You should just go shopping on the Obamacare website.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 1:59:32 PM EDT
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FBHO.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:03:59 PM EDT
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The entire purpose of Obamacare is to further the advance of socialism in America by eliminating the average shmoe's discretionary income.

It's Alice in Wonderland Time:

http://www.google.com/search?q=obamacare+fines+charitable+hospitals&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:08:34 PM EDT
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God I am so pissed.
Blue Cross/Blue shield of NC wants me to roll into a "silver" plan which gives a hell of a lot less coverage for 3x the price.

Going to tell Blue Cross/Blue Shield that if they had wanted to keep me as a customer, they would have lobbied harder against Obama Care.


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Where are the jackasses like JIP on this site who claimed that Obamacare was a good thing and ate up all the BS that spewed from Obama's mouth? I haven't seen many of them ever since all the things that we knew would come to pass have started to hurt the American people.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:10:43 PM EDT
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The insurance companies told the administration (or whatever 5 year olds they had writing the bill) what they needed in order for all this to work and were, in the end, largely ignored.

Some of these same insurance companies tried to speak out about what was coming.  The feds threatened them with jail time for a half dozen bullshit things and shut them up.

Place blame where it's due.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:12:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:12:14 PM EDT
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Bad apple insurance company.

FBHO
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:12:47 PM EDT
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Those damn insurance companies and their greed cancelling people's healthcare!!!! WE NEED SINGLE PAYER NOW!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:17:54 PM EDT
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I didn't go to mailbox yesterday....



Individual plan, I am self a self employed farmer.



That means I need insurance against big things, like getting mauled by a piece of equipment, I don't use insurance for the small stuff, just paid cash.
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mail on a Sunday?


I didn't go to mailbox yesterday....



Individual plan, I am self a self employed farmer.



That means I need insurance against big things, like getting mauled by a piece of equipment, I don't use insurance for the small stuff, just paid cash.


Do you have insurance through NC Farm Bureau?  They seem to have the best rates.  



 
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:19:53 PM EDT
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Right, just go online and get another one.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:23:42 PM EDT
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Obama lied, insurance plans died.



FBHO
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:28:23 PM EDT
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That's the endgame. It's a gov't take over of something that constitutes a huge percentage of the economy.


ckmorley
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:31:11 PM EDT
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Judith says you should be thanking Our Glorious Lead Obama because he had the foresight to lie to stupid people and herald in the sublimity that is single-payer.  What the hell is wrong with you??











 
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:35:20 PM EDT
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God I am so pissed.
Blue Cross/Blue shield of NC wants me to roll into a "silver" plan which gives a hell of a lot less coverage for 3x the price.

Going to tell Blue Cross/Blue Shield that if they had wanted to keep me as a customer, they would have lobbied harder against Obama Care.


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Can you post the numbers?

There's a website that is putting together everybody's cancellation notices but I forget what it is
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:37:49 PM EDT
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another one bites the dust. It's just another drive towards a single payer system.

Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:38:10 PM EDT
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What he meant was, " if you like your plan, you can keep it, but it's going to cost extra"
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:38:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:38:42 PM EDT
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No he told the truth. The OP got a "transition" letter informing him he needs to "transition" to a different plan. There was no cancellation, just a "transition".
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:39:15 PM EDT
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But, but, but..............the Kenyan promised???
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:43:34 PM EDT
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Dude he misspoke, chill. Give the prez a break.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:45:09 PM EDT
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we got ours the other day. we had FREE health insurance. FREE. and now its all changed nothing too awful but not free anymore.
FBHO.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:45:51 PM EDT
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Insurance Industry will not fight as they fear an IRS audit, but make no mistake about it some how they will will still make bank from Criminalcare
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:49:13 PM EDT
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if we were all not so stupid, the president would not have had to lie to us.



glorious leader is glorious.  Don't taze me, NSA
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:49:13 PM EDT
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I love paying for other people's shit.   Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:51:32 PM EDT
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Join the club OP. I am cancelled as well come the first of the year. The FBHO healthcare website is a fucking joke and a waste of time. Don't know what I am going to do but I guess I have two months to figure it out.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 2:54:05 PM EDT
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Do not comply
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:06:59 PM EDT
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I am not going to.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:37:33 PM EDT
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my letter offered me a similar plan under Obamacare for 3.2X the price of my current plan, which I will be keeping until any little thing changes and I get fucked over.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:43:22 PM EDT
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No. He misstated.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Got my From BC/BS in my state, and in order to keep the same plan (which equals out to bronze coverage) my premium is increasing 100%.

Im dropping it and taking the fine the first year. (Im young and in good health.)
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You know that paying the fine doesnt buy your healthcare coverage from the gov, you are still uninsured at that point.  I suspect a lot of younger people will do the same thing and the system will fall flat on its face when the $$$ runs out. Like it did in Feb of this year.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:57:06 PM EDT
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You know that paying the fine doesnt buy your healthcare coverage from the gov, you are still uninsured at that point.  I suspect a lot of younger people will do the same thing and the system will fall flat on its face when the $$$ runs out. Like it did in Feb of this year.
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Got my From BC/BS in my state, and in order to keep the same plan (which equals out to bronze coverage) my premium is increasing 100%.

Im dropping it and taking the fine the first year. (Im young and in good health.)


You know that paying the fine doesnt buy your healthcare coverage from the gov, you are still uninsured at that point.  I suspect a lot of younger people will do the same thing and the system will fall flat on its face when the $$$ runs out. Like it did in Feb of this year.


You must not be familiar with the U.S., $$$ never runs out.
Link Posted: 11/3/2013 3:58:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2013 4:00:28 PM EDT
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Got my From BC/BS in my state, and in order to keep the same plan (which equals out to bronze coverage) my premium is increasing 100%.

I'm dropping it and taking the fine the first year. (I'm young and in good health.)
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Something to consider but get proper advice first to make sure that you do not do anything illegal.

Some have stated that the fine can only be stolen from a federal tax REFUND.  If that is true, and for whatever reason you increase your withholding such that you have to pay some federal tax on April 15 instead of getting a refund, how will they get the fine?

Note that what you pay in federal taxes is not determined by your refund/required payment on April 15th.


Link Posted: 11/3/2013 4:00:50 PM EDT
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I'm surprised some enterprising lawyer hasn't filed a class action suit against the government.
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